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    "When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

    Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

    Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

    Didn't subscribe? You'll want to jump on this one now as it is guaranteed to sell out.

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  • Vguy72
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    Dead.net's Damage Report came through!!....

    ....My second Dave's 38 glass arrived today packed in bubble wrap intact!!
    Thanks tptb for listening.
    Plus, rumor has it that Vegas is starting Cody Glass toknight at center.
    Bodes well, if I believed in coincidences.

  • proudfoot
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    All good, oroborous

    :)))

  • Gary Farseer
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    Two Sisters

    Thanks Brownie for the Bear Update, will have to get that one. Saw the Man in Black a couple of times. Can't wait to hear that.

    JSJay: Yep that is from the Hollywood Festival. Will have to look that up as I have not Seen it.

    SimonRob - thanks for the update and the additional information. Knew we could count on you to shed additional light on the subject. Newcastle upon Tyne and Newcastle-Under-Lyme. They sound like two sisters from an old country song, down where I am located in Hicksville (j/k). Or maybe the name of one woman, depends how you See it. Kind of like "Yor Cheatin Heart." "I thought she was a Newcastle upon Tyne but turned to be a Newcastle-Under-Lyme." Of course Lyme or lime is what killers/murders use to dispose of their victim. "Don't Murder Me."

    That old Tony BollWeevil mad a heck of a Shot.

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    So much incoming...

    Personally, I'm stoked to get the remastered S&R with the extra '71 material. Perhaps its appearance in our mailboxes will release Dave to announce the box. (Six shows from fall '72 or give me vintage Grease, please. Translation: spring '69.)

    Then there's a Jer show coming out that I attended with friends in Nov. '91 at MSG.
    Tedeschi-Trucks Band issue a live version of their take on Layla, 19 July.
    'Course we don't yet know DP 39, which should drop at the end of July.
    Remastered All Things Must Pass arrives in August.
    Plus, I've got some old Dylan albums on order, which arrive any time.

    Clearly, this leaves little time for working and crap like that....

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    I named my dog hosehead

  • bigbrownie
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    Bear's Sonic Journals

    Looks like the new release will be Johnny Cash at the Carousel Ballroom 04/24/1968.

    Skull 'n Roses is on the way!

  • JackstrawJay
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    England 1970

    England 1970....

    Go to youtube.
    Type this in the search box: Grateful Dead, China-Rider jam, England 1970

    You'll find a ripping video clip, albeit brief, of The Dead performing live, outdoors in England.

    There's also a Garcia interview, during the E72 tour, where Garcia discusses playing in England, in 1970....

    This China jam from 1970 is a smoker. Check out Garcia's boots!! You will plainly see that is Garcia and the boys in 1970. Not 72... (plus Mickey is there)

    Here's the full setlist

    Casey Jones
    China
    Rider
    Hard to Handle
    Me and My Uncle
    Cryptical
    Drums
    Other One
    Cryptical
    Attics
    Good Lovin
    Cold Rain
    Dark Star
    St. Stephen
    NFA
    GDTRFB
    NFA
    Lovelight

  • Dogon
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    Thanks Simon

    Thanks Simon for succint clarification, said better, and with more knowledge, than I could. ( Im still chuckling to myself about badkamer!)

  • simonrob
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    The Grateful Dead in England in 1970

    First, lets clear up a couple of points of confusion:

    In England, there are two Newcastles, namely Newcastle upon Tyne and Newcastle-under-Lyme.
    Newcastle upon Tyne is on the north east coast of England. The Grateful Dead played there on April 11, 1972 - the third show of their Europe '72 tour.
    Newcastle-under-Lyme is in the English midlands, approximately mid way between Birmingham and Manchester. Leycett is a small place a few miles west of Newcastle-under-Lyme and is where the Hollywood Festival was held on May 23 & 24, 1970 The Grateful Dead played on May 24.

    Regarding the alleged show at the Lyceum in London on May 25, 1970, a lot of the confusion over this show is almost certainly down to the fact that the Grateful Dead performed at the Lyceum on May 23, 24, 25 & 26, 1972 NOT 1970.

    That cleared up, we can move on to the show on May 25, 1970. This show may have been tentatively planned but all the evidence suggests that it never took place. There is a website called concertarchives which lists shows at various venues including the esteemed Lyceum. There is no show listed at that venue on May 25, 1970 but the New Riders of the Purple Sage and the Grateful Dead are listed as playing there for 4 shows on May 23, 24, 25 & 26, 1972 which we all know and love as this was part of the Europe '72 tour. Furthermore, here on dead.net, under the show archive is a page dedicated to The Strand Lyceum, May 25, 1970 where doubt is expressed as to whether this show actually happened. 3 of 4 posters are pretty sure it didn't happen and the fourth confuses the date with May 25, 1972. D'oh. I am sure there are plenty of other sites that reference this show but I have seen nothing to suggest that it really did take place.

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    Robert Hunter

    Hendrixfreak - yes, so you are saying that Robert Hunter wrote the lyrics with the foreknowledge that Jerry would be singing them-and this informed what he wrote? It does sound likely. Maybe the overall effect of listening to the songs is to witness the symbiosis-if that's the right word - of two great artists working in unison.

    Thin - I have always sensed a similarity in approach between Robert Hunter and Dylan. I don't actually have that many Robert Hunter solo albums-Rumrunners is one I do have though, and that fits the bill. It has It Must Have Been The Roses on, of course-very different from the version on Garcia's solo album - Hunters version has a much rougher sound, as I remember it.

    Regarding Robert Hunter live-I believe he came to England and played some solo shows-maybe around 1981.I think he may have played at Glastonbury-or maybe some London dates. Unfortunately I didn't find out about it until he had gone back, whatever happened.

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"When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

Didn't subscribe? You'll want to jump on this one now as it is guaranteed to sell out.

 *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Great reads on the thread today, Ah yes, good old Black Sabbath, I saw them twice, once in 72 and again in 76, what a difference 4 years can make. In 72 they were like a hippy peace band, that was really loud and really rocked hard, Tony just shredded that guitar more than once and Ozzy was all over the stage. No opening act, just a night with Sabbath, real Heavy. Flash ahead 4 years and a totally different band was on stage. The equipment on that night was tightly packed together and over head was a large cross, like an iron cross design, and each band member had a large cross or crosses around their necks. Ozzy was wasted and flopped about like a fish out of water, Sabbath Bloody Sabbath had just been released or was about to be and they played most of that lp with a smattering of hits thrown in, the biggest ovation was when they played Iron Man, of course, but my favorite tune of the night was the wizard, never heard that one live before. The opening act that night was......Peter Frampton. Yeah, I know, what a pairing, but it was awesome. Frampton was good, real good, this was before his big live lp had made it to #1 and he played all those tunes from that lp, he and his band Frampton's Camel I think it was called, were excellent, stole the show. After that, I became a Dead Head and became obsesses with them, still am.
I think you have to go thru several bands before you are ready for the Dead, then it hits you like a ball and chain and you can't believe your ears. Hooked

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Reading the GD article in Uncut magazine I noticed
‘It’s safe to assume there’s a box set announcement for 2021 coming soon’ - DL
Of course my idea of soon may not be Dave’s

Talking of the Europe 72 50th anniversary he’s quoted as saying ‘There are still new and exciting ways to present that music … we’ve been looking at creative ways to get people engaged with that tour again, to make it more accessible in a format we think people are really going to want ‘
Something to look forward to in 2022

Edit It took three attempts to post this plain text message. It only worked when I removed a final exclamation mark.

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..but clearly have ill intentions. I couldn't get a post to go either, after much trial and error, it was a dreaded hyphen or perhaps the back slash that did me in. Henceforth and forever back slashes and hyphens deemed as evil characters to never be used for civil discourse.

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Yo, rockers!!!

Kcollins1974, check your pm................

Have had no problems with posting things with dots, dashes, question marks, or exclamation points! Probably cuz I paid the ransom................

However, I continue to struggle with semicolons..........

Rock on!!!

Doc
Life is a little like a message in a bottle, to be carried by the winds and the tides.....

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I’m still listening to every 1971 Grateful Dead show on the 50th anniversaries. And can combine the audio with the film. Audio first, then the film.

By the way, speaking of Doc. The other recently mentioned Dock or the Dock Ellis story is fantastic. Thank you Billy the Kid for bringing that to our attention.
Yesterday we had a thunderstorm with almost no rain and winds that must have gusted up to 40-50 mph. Lightning popping in all directions. So around late morning we should be seeing more smokes. I’ve done some wildland fire fighting and fire lookout work when I worked seasonal Forest Service trail work forever and a day. On a side note , no retirement benefits for seasonal federal employees. Maybe that’s been changed in the 20 years since I worked as a “green collar” man. Solo social (in)security is better than nothing. I own my home and am in excellent health. But it all goes to hell with age.
As the Merry Pranksters said;- “Nothing Lasts”.
After posting this by identifying parking meters I think of these two songs, “Lovely Rita” from Sargent Peppers- the Beatles.
And “Don’t follow leaders, watch your parkin’ meters” from Bringing it all Back Home” - Bob Dylan (he said that)

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Strider, same here, dry thunderstorms and high winds, so as of yesterday have a fire 12 miles away!
As of last night, it’s only in National forest and only about 200 acres, but they haven’t given us any updates yet...
With the fuel and terrain between here and there, if the wind changes it could get interesting...
Could see it from bed last night. Pretty wild visuals, almost like a volcano erupting...
Think it was just the flames reflecting off the clouds, not the actual flames, but still, when you can see that from your bed....
Have had temps mostly in the high nineties since last week, which for here at elevation is pretty hot, of course no rain in sight...
And and to think it’s barely summer! Usually doesn’t get like this here until July...

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does this work ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ------------------ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

how about a small limmnk

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cuff..... you have to wonder what idiot thought the word linnnnnnnkkkkkk was bad?

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yep, here in the west hot, dry, and what looks to be a long scary fire season. for several days seemed like an early attempt at a monsoonal pattern, lots of lightning notifications on lightning tracker. we even got 15 minutes of rain here in the "lowlands" after a wall of crazy wind and dust out in front of the cell. good luck and stay safe.

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For the Mingus recommendation. I haven't picked up any "new" Mingus since the "Jazz In Detroit" 5-disc set a couple of years back. That set was great, but could have easily been 3 discs. No matter, I was tempted to get this new 'expanded' version, was waiting for feedback, which you provided. I will pick this up pronto.

Only 96 hours until "upgraded" Skull and Roses. I'm ready!!

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Take solace in the fact that the series is right where it should be. Fleury gave away game three and Lehner literally saved your ass last night.

Should be an exciting game 5.

Good luck.

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Somethings off, it’s like the knights are turning into the AVs...
Haven’t watched enough to put my finger on it, but they don’t seem quite the high speed freight train that they were.
Habs been shuttin’ em down in the lanes etc and keeping the shots down just like the Kiniggits did to the AVs...
No worries though if they go back to the fortress and git er done they’ll be in the drivers seat!

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which volume is this? I see rhino has announced a deluxe edition coming next month,,, 3 lps 45 bucks.

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Not sure about the vinyl edition but I received the 2cd a few days ago. I believe the original was just two long tracks from the jam session of the second set and that this new edition from Carnegie includes the first set which was 75 minutes long.

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Thanks guy. I ordered both from Amazon,,, free shipping.

CD coming instantly,,, lp's are preorder and not released until next month.

I really don't need the vinyl, but Mingus is a giant in the jazz world and thought it be nice to have for down the road value.

We'll see :-)

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Big tunics in two stores

I am looking for a T

High roller, thats what call me

The neon museum = cool

....I opened a bar for men with erectile dysfunction.
It was a total flop. Nobody came.
😁
Proudfoot. You should check out Area 15 while you're in Vegas.

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Walking tbrough Planet Hollywood

"GK gear sold here"

One xxl with GK logo, no wording

Just over 30$ with tax

:)))

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To get that post below to go through.

It’s not even in violation of the new rules.
Can I say ‘rules’ here, or is that banned too?

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I just got brainwashed by Vguy

Kraken is next season

"You could almost think
that youre postin double"

A couple of really good jokes...what are you a comedian in residency?

I think David Zaslav, CEO of Discovery, and an attorney, is trying to figure whether Rhino fits in with his future plans. I know Simon stated a few days back that he was watching the European Football Championship. Discovery owns pretty much all of Europe's sports broadcasting networks and now own's Warner who owns Rhino. He may hate GOGD. Still believe that is what is slowing official news. Shakedown Stream take me away...

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T-shirt not Jersey?

Still a great price for "official" shirt.

Edit: saw t-shirt ooops

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Doing some trail work today, a la Strider. Got bit in the lip by some type of insect. Now, my lip is swollen and I look terribly funny. I'm the guy I used to laugh at. Anyway. On the bright side, lots of Dead listening today: 10-21-83, 10-12-84, 4-22-78, 7-31-82- 7-3-88. How's that for a day of Dead listening? I hope the swelling goes down...

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He’s not playing bad, but I have no idea why Fleury started over Lehner. Bad Karma.

The way the GKs are playing, I also have no idea how they beat the AVs.

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....believe me I know.

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Badkamer. That is Dutch for Bathroom.

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VGuy - A real back and forth series, but it’s do or die time now. I will definitely be checking out that next game. Same Bat Station, same Bat Time.

A shout out to Robert Hunter, who would have been 80 years young today. A great wordsmith, a Dylan Thomas for his times.

Fuckers starting to swell...no bueno!

Yes Vguy is our resident comedian, he’s just been on hiatus for the playoffs

I think it’s imperative that PF leaves Vegas ASAP. No fault of his own, but I think he’s brought some kind of bad Seahawks juju with him that is causing the unexplainable demise of the mighty Kiniggits....the flux capacitor must be demagnetized immediately, repeat, demagnetize the FC IMMEDIATELY!

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Yes, Happy Birthday, Robert Hunter! The Grateful Dead would not be anywhere near as fascinating without your contributions.

Joni Mitchell's album "Blue" turned 50 yesterday, and apparently there is a box set with new remasters (and for the first album, a re-mix) of her first four albums coming out in a week. Plus, for those Joni fans, the Archives Vol. 2 box is coming out this fall, containing demos and live tracks from the period covered by the first four albums.

For anyone who hasn't listened to Joni before . . . I envy you! Even if all you did was give "Blue" and "Court and Spark" a serious listen, you would have improved your musical life immensely. :)

Be kind, rewind.

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Correction: The Grateful Dead could not have been who they became if it wasn't for Robert Hunter. He was the thought man, the wordsmith, who made them great. Without him? Nothing to catalyze around and nothing for the listeners to truly sink their teeth into, nothing to sing , future uncertain, at best.

Edit: I'm gettin' antsy, wanting to know whether the box announcement will be a pass or fail in my book.

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I never saw Joni in concert, but in 2013 she was invited to speak at a New York Times Talks with host Jon Pareles, just prior to a 70th Tribute Concert being held for her by Herbie Hancock et al at Massey Hall. I couldn’t get tix for the musical part (house band had Bill Frisell in it, a favourite), but I got tix for the NY Times talk, held at a small concert hall at the University of Toronto. She appeared with drummer Brian Blade (who I saw a few years later play with Wayne Shorter - WOW!), and it was about a 90 minute talk, and she was quite fascinating. She spoke in depth of her career, how she played coffee houses a block or two away in the 60s, her breakout career in California, her love of jazz, and the art of Emily Carr. She is a fascinating individual, a good songwriter and a very good visual artist. It was a really enjoyable evening, and I got a lot out of it, quite different than a concert. Her health is bad now (she smokes incessantly), but I wish her well, and she was yet another color in the palette that is music.

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He is the man.

I think it is own the documentary "From Anthem to Beauty" that Mr. Hunter talks about writing Ripple, To Lay Me Down, and Brokedown Palace in one day while in London with the fellas. I think he said 1970. So is this a on May 25, 1970 when the dead were getting ready to play the The Stand Lyceum in London? Of course this is the day after playing Newcastle-Under-Lyme or Hollywood Festival or Lower Finney Green Farm, Leycett.

Maybe Dogon could help with what the actual title of this venue and festival is. I assume it is just some minor dispute based on land allotment., or something to that effect.

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My first two picks after Price are going to be Gallagher and Suzuki. They are not marquee names, but those guys are grinders who do the little things that win games.

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