Listen To The River: St. Louis '71 '72 '73 (20-CD)

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What's Inside:
7 Previously Unreleased Complete Shows On 20 Discs
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/09/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/10/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/17/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/18/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/19/72
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/29/73
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/30/73
Sourced from tapes recorded by Rex Jackson, Owsley "Bear" Stanley, and Kidd Candelario
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Restoration and Speed Correction by Plangent Processes

Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 13,000

Steamboats and BBQ, ice cream cones and Mardi Gras - are you ready to laissez les bons temps rouler with the "gateway" to the Grateful Dead? Meet us, won't you, in St. Louis for seven complete and previously unreleased Dead concerts that capture the heart of the band's affinity for the River City.

LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73 is a 20CD set featuring five shows from the Fox Theatre - December 9 and 10, 1971; October 17-19, 1972; and two from the Kiel Auditorium - October 29 and 30, 1973.

The seven shows in the collection span slightly less than two years, but they represent some of the best shows the Grateful Dead played during some of its peak tours. The music tells the story of a band evolving, changing from one sound to another seamlessly, precipitated – in large part – by significant personnel changes in the Dead’s lineup.

The two 1971 shows feature the original Grateful Dead lineup plus newcomer Keith Godchaux on piano. This version of the band would hold together for the next six months as the Dead embarked upon its Europe ’72 tour. By the time the Dead returned to the Fox Theatre less than a year later, they were without Pigpen, who’d played his final show with the Dead at the Hollywood Bowl on June 17, 1972. A year after the exceptional Fox 1972 shows, the Dead came back to St. Louis, but played the much larger Kiel Auditorium, touring behind the release of WAKE OF THE FLOOD, which came out just two weeks before.

All told, the band played 60 different songs during these shows highlighted by blazing romps through “Beat It On Down The Line” and “One More Saturday Night” and wistful takes on “Row Jimmy” and “Brokedown Palace” (whose lyrics give the collection its name). Meanwhile, the copious jamming ebbed and flowed like the mighty Mississippi River on multiple voyages through “The Other One” and “Dark Star.” Naturally, the band paid tribute to one of its favorite rock and rollers and one of St. Louis’ biggest stars by playing Chuck Berry songs at every show in the collection, including Pigpen galloping through “Run Rudolph Run.”

Each show has been restored and speed corrected using Plangent Processes with mastering by Jeffrey Norman. The collection comes in a slipcase with artwork by Liane Plant and features an 84-page hardbound book as well as other Dead surprises. To set the stage for the music, the liner notes provide several essays about the shows, including one by Sam Cutler, the band’s tour manager during that era, and another by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether, among others.

Due October 1st, LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73, is limited to 13,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net.

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January 6, 2022 - 11:51am

#211

hendrixfreak

Joined:
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We've become connisseurs...

Daverock, I got exposed to the GD in '69 with Live/Dead and couldn't "get" Dark Star until later. Then my older broth spun WD, AB and Skullfuck around 1971 and I got hooked. First show a year later. Then the taping craze. I first got reel to reels of some of the April '71 FE shows and used a friend's reel-to-reel to make cassette copies. Then GD and Jimi cassette trading via snail mail. Then digitization struck, no more generational concerns and full on frenzy.

Let's see... 1971 to 2022 is 51 freakin' years... (ouch!) So, would it be fair to say that, after that heritage and the modern era of archivial CD releases (~1990 onwards?), including hundreds of GD shows, we've become connisseurs and developed well-informed palates for our favorite eras as well as styles of performance (laid-back, balls to walls, songs vs. jams, various instrument choices by the band, etc.) and thus here we are with HUNDREDS of shows officially released, another jillion on hard drive (thanks Doc!) and even a stray box of aud cassettes in the basement that I can't bring myself to toss.

I may not be typical, and I claim no expertise, only preferences. They say an appetite is a chef's best friend, so perhaps the only downside to my situation is a slightly jaded palette. At least I'm long past having to have it "all."

Just a few thoughts as I work my way slowly, lovingly, through Listen to the River. And naturally I wonder what Dave might toss our way this year. Spring '77 is always welcome if not a revelation. (I did catch shows in 3 states that spring.) Feb '74 is way welcome, as pre-hiatus is my bag. I think a '60s release -- whatever happened to Oct. 20-something '68 (I'm slipping) that went out on vinyl with that silly cartoon book? Can they throw us that on CD this year for a lark?

I always end up wanting more of that dangerously explosive '68 dragon band. So I'm just another old (64) crank needing a bigger dose to get off and wondering if we've passed my train station?? Maybe just the January blues...
January 6, 2022 - 11:50am

#212

JimInMD

Joined:
June 27, 2011

Vinyl Box of E72

How much would a vinyl box of Europe 72 cost?

Nothing refinancing your house couldn't cure.
January 6, 2022 - 11:08am

#213

daverock

Joined:
September 1, 2014

Change is now

Hendrixfreak - my tastes in The Dead have changed enormously since I first heard them. When I first got access to tapes - about 35 years ago, it felt like an incredible voyage of discovery. I couldn't get enough - any era, partial sets, audience recordings. - whatever. Of course, they were all free. As the years have passed I seem to enjoy certain years more than ever - but other years not so much. I sometimes think it's weird still liking this music - and rock n' roll in general, at my age-64. None of my friends are like this.
I wonder how much a vinyl box set of E72 would cost?
January 6, 2022 - 10:20am

#214

JimInMD

Joined:
June 27, 2011

Mini Wall of Sound

I enjoyed seeing some guy build his own mini wall of sound, home version in his basement or man cave or whatever. Cost him a small fortune, apparently sounds great. Money well spent, love it. If I won the lottery, my new man cave would have a mini wall of sound.
January 6, 2022 - 9:06am

#215

proudfoot

Joined:
August 2, 2020

my thoughts on 1/6/22

8/31/78 is one of the first shows I got on tape back in...83? Always love it.
Boxes only? hmm. might be a stretch, but I don't know what they have in the vault still release-worthy.
The entire Wall of Sound? THE Wall of Sound? I'll take it.
Dave: how did he get the gig he has? The GD never asked me to be their vault master.

I hereby pledge to keep my emotions and comments in check on this dubious anniversary.

It _is_ my wife's birthday, and the pleasant anniversary of 1/6/78. :)))
January 6, 2022 - 9:03am

#216

PT Barnum

Joined:
December 2, 2009

Doc, great suggestions

yes, 1970 box would be great, also shows from the spring of 70, that college circuit tour with all that revolution in the air. I'm not getting any younger and sure would like to see some of these classic shows released before I leave this plane.
January 6, 2022 - 9:00am

#217

JimInMD

Joined:
June 27, 2011

Subscriptions & Spring '77 Box

I couldn't see them dropping Dave's Picks. They have no problem selling out 25k subscriptions for four shows (plus a few ala carte). The box sets can take a some time to sell out and with the exception of Get Shown the Light, 15k is the most they have sold. 13k Listen to the River Box Sets were printed, is an exceptional selection of music, is still for sale and likely will be for some time come. I think the PNW took years to sell out, July 78, also excellent took a long time to sell out.

I'm not entirely sure why this is true.. but it is. Dave's Picks are more desirable to more people than these monster box sets for some unknown reason, call it buyer psychology or marketing mumbo jumbo or whatever. They sell more of each show and don't have the warehousing headaches of holding on to inventory making these individual shows appear to yield more revenue per dollar spent remastering and packaging than box sets. With a limited number of great shows left in the vault and apparently a higher revenue per show from DaP than other options.. there is a very low chance they are going kill this golden goose anytime soon.

My two cents, I could be wrong.

______________________________________

As for a Winterland Spring '77 mini-box. Man, that really is a good fit. I know it's come up before, but the timing for works, a three set mini-box. If not this year than next.

Lemieux.. don't muck this one up like you did Winterland February '74! We will never forgive you. Spring '77 box or bust, our pitchforks are sharpened, torches tarred.
January 6, 2022 - 8:56am

#218

PT Barnum

Joined:
December 2, 2009

playin in the sand

just heard JM has covid and will not perform, also Billy the K will not perform as his heart is beating to a different drum these days. Also heard they were not going to give refunds until there was an uproar about that, with covid spiking and all, I don't think it's such a good idea to continue with this run of shows.
January 6, 2022 - 8:09am

#219

hendrixfreak

Joined:
February 26, 2014

Moment, please...

a) HF is indeed cray-cray...
b) the Aug '78 shows at Red Rocks, IMHO, aren't worthy of release
c) daverock, currently I drop $100 on the annual subscription, $200 on the annual box and ... that's $300. If they abolish the Dave's series and go to three boxes per year, that's $600 or double my current outlay. So, for selfish reasons, I say no. But consider: who the hell is going to cancel a best-selling series with his name on it?

But we're all free to speculate and wish for our favorite pipe dreams.

Do I recall correctly that Dave recently said that 2022 was going to be so busy that they pushed one project back to 2023?

I'll say this about getting older: my perspective changes, unannounced, on previously bedrock issues. Will my seemingly insatiable need for archival rock n roll suddenly dissipate in a year or two? I think that a fixed income retirement might well trigger such a change. So Dave's plan to go on for 15+ more years puts me at age 79. Looking down the road, I can see my interest flagging somewhere along the line. I kinda dread it.

Enjoy the coffee. We have 5 degrees with lots 'o snow in Denver this morning. Sorely needed snow.
January 6, 2022 - 7:30am

#220

Sixtus_

Joined:
November 8, 2014

Box Ideas

I'd love a box from the first Winterland run of '77; was listening to 3/19 yesterday and was like "WHY is this not released???" That suite of 3 shows are pretty special, containing the first ever Scarlet > Fire along with the only time they did the extended Terrapin suite (at least part of it). I get that a whole lot of 1977 already exists officially and some (including me) might have some exhaustion there, but this is a short little run that delivers big, Plus the shows on the archive all sound utterly fantastic.

Hat in the Ring.
HF isn't cray cray!

Be Well People.
Sixtus

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What's Inside:
7 Previously Unreleased Complete Shows On 20 Discs
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/09/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/10/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/17/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/18/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/19/72
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/29/73
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/30/73
Sourced from tapes recorded by Rex Jackson, Owsley "Bear" Stanley, and Kidd Candelario
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Restoration and Speed Correction by Plangent Processes

Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 13,000

Steamboats and BBQ, ice cream cones and Mardi Gras - are you ready to laissez les bons temps rouler with the "gateway" to the Grateful Dead? Meet us, won't you, in St. Louis for seven complete and previously unreleased Dead concerts that capture the heart of the band's affinity for the River City.

LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73 is a 20CD set featuring five shows from the Fox Theatre - December 9 and 10, 1971; October 17-19, 1972; and two from the Kiel Auditorium - October 29 and 30, 1973.

The seven shows in the collection span slightly less than two years, but they represent some of the best shows the Grateful Dead played during some of its peak tours. The music tells the story of a band evolving, changing from one sound to another seamlessly, precipitated – in large part – by significant personnel changes in the Dead’s lineup.

The two 1971 shows feature the original Grateful Dead lineup plus newcomer Keith Godchaux on piano. This version of the band would hold together for the next six months as the Dead embarked upon its Europe ’72 tour. By the time the Dead returned to the Fox Theatre less than a year later, they were without Pigpen, who’d played his final show with the Dead at the Hollywood Bowl on June 17, 1972. A year after the exceptional Fox 1972 shows, the Dead came back to St. Louis, but played the much larger Kiel Auditorium, touring behind the release of WAKE OF THE FLOOD, which came out just two weeks before.

All told, the band played 60 different songs during these shows highlighted by blazing romps through “Beat It On Down The Line” and “One More Saturday Night” and wistful takes on “Row Jimmy” and “Brokedown Palace” (whose lyrics give the collection its name). Meanwhile, the copious jamming ebbed and flowed like the mighty Mississippi River on multiple voyages through “The Other One” and “Dark Star.” Naturally, the band paid tribute to one of its favorite rock and rollers and one of St. Louis’ biggest stars by playing Chuck Berry songs at every show in the collection, including Pigpen galloping through “Run Rudolph Run.”

Each show has been restored and speed corrected using Plangent Processes with mastering by Jeffrey Norman. The collection comes in a slipcase with artwork by Liane Plant and features an 84-page hardbound book as well as other Dead surprises. To set the stage for the music, the liner notes provide several essays about the shows, including one by Sam Cutler, the band’s tour manager during that era, and another by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether, among others.

Due October 1st, LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73, is limited to 13,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net.

Hard to believe I'm the first comment

Guess I got lucky?

This is a box set to get on board with. I like the concept of "the river". Listened to 12/10/71 last night at store, very nice show, very nice recording off archive. "Official" release should be a-ok.

NOW WHERE IS DaP 39???? :-)

Plangent Processes ....

.... I am in! Dutifully ordered; grateful for the embarrassment of riches

2021 Box Set

Another big surprise from Dave. A St. Louis 71-73 combo, nobody had this on their radar screen. Just ordered mine. Never have seen a box released without a seaside chat. What the hell is going on? I am excited!

Yahoo!

You are the MAN, Dave!!!

And all the PTB.

:)))

Wonder what the box is gonna look like?

No pictures of the box!

OMG!!

So, everyone was right: it's a '71, fall '72, fall '73 box. The setlists really reflect the band's evolution, especially going from a 7-minute Playing in the Band to a 20+ minute version over the course of the year.

Beautiful the way this box will provide the pre-Euro '72 and post Euro-'72 band in all its glory.

$200? There's the sweet spot.

I believe this will take me a good deal of the w-w-w-winter to listen to, much less fully absorb.

Yet another multi-year geographic focus. Well played, Dave! Muchas gracias!

The record industry is killing me...

Is there no end to the releases this month!!!??!?!

We got the Joni, we got the Dylan, we got the dead, we got the lee morgan.

No way I can hide all this from my wife!! I can hide the mail when it comes,,, but,,,, that new book shelf to hold all this stuff I can't hide as easily!

LIstening to Birdsong from 10/17/72,,,, another one from the archive that is damn near perfect, official release should be even better!!!

At Last

Been waiting months for this announcement and it’s seven early 70’s shows which I love. Ordered immediately as I expect the 13000 will go quickly. Can’t wait for Autumn to listen to these shows. Now roll on DaP39!

Wonderful!....

....simply wonderful!

Got the Fox Box I Have Been Asking For....

....and then some. This is an instant classic.

Killer box set!

I just ordered 2, one for me and one for my brother. What a knockout!

Oooooooh....

....I like that cap a lot. SOLD!

Yippee

Of course I’ve ordered it!

OK, GD

You got my $$$ for a very appreciated release.

My first show anniversary was this past Sunday (7/18/82)...39 years later, the long, strange trip continues.

God Bless the Grateful Dead!!!

I Totally Understand Dennis!!

Dead Fox Box Ordered - check! Lee Morgan Lighthouse Box Ordered - check! Bob Dylan Bootleg Springtime In NY Ordered - check! Plus sundry Dave McMurray, Crosby, Drive-By Truckers, and Son Volt - check! Separation & Divorce - pending!

I just got notice the dog's license is up for renewal, so I can start by adding a zero on the end of that charge on the books...New cord for my tools, add a zero to the total....

Only one Cumberland?!....

....what a rip off. Cancelling my order (kidding).

wut

...this came as a surprise, however the pre-available sleuthing that was initiated yesterday has now paid off.

Thanks GD!

Sixtus

How fast will it sell out?

FAST!

Yes!

To Dave L - Thank You! Many of us (myself included) have been asking for the Fox shows in some capacity. It is clear you watch these boards. I know from the Seaside chat that these shows have been on your radar for a while. Still these shows have been heavily discussed on the boards in recent years so we are being given what we asked for. Adding the shows from 1973 is the icing on the cake.

Of course I ordered this box as soon as I saw the announcement. I can't wait to get it.

Right in the sweet spot

Count me in again. Great combo of shows here.

Thoughts

I was so excited to hear about this new boxed set. After learning about these shows, I’m even more excited. I’m glad that it spans three separate years in the Dead cannon, and the setlists look amazing. Even the shows without the Dark Stars, Other Ones, and other jam vehicles look interesting and captivating. Even more, I’m very grateful that some of this material is getting released separately as well. The 12/10/71 show is getting released on both CD and vinyl(!), and the Playin’>Drums>DS>Dew>Playin’ is getting released on vinyl too. Very smart decision. Overall, this is very exciting.

Three Comments

First, is it "Only One Cumberland?...." or, "It's Got a Cumberland!"

Second.. thank you GD/David Lemieux.. not many of you know this, but HendrixFreak has been both on a hunger strike and out on the ledge of 53rd floor of the Wells Fargo Building in Denver threatening to jump unless he gets a Fall '72 box. I am happy to report he is down off the ledge and finishing a greasy pulled pork sammy at the BBQ joint around the corner. Extra greasy...

Third.. Dennis, I am beginning to feel much sympathy for your wife.

All is good with the world again. As you were.

So I go downstairs.....

... after a morning of ordering more "stuff" from the cornucopia of musical choices being given us (or thrusted upon us), I head down to read my favorite monthly paper "The Funny Times".

There is the single panel joke. Guy at an AA meeting talking to the group.

My name is Roger. I own a plethora of music on original vinyl, eight-track, cassette and compact disc. Including most digital file formats. I was about to buy remastered rereleases on 180-gram vinyl when my wife said I needed help.

Bottom of panel labeled "Audiophiles Anonymous"

Funny, fate or cry for help?

I was thrilled when I saw…

I was thrilled when I saw this news. October 19, 1972 was the night I got on the bus. I thought the roof was gonna come off the place during the Casey Jones at the end of the first set. At that moment I knew I wanted more of this. I never missed a St. Louis show after that.

I've been waiting almost 50…

I've been waiting almost 50 years for these! These were amongst the first shows I attended (along with the Miami Rock Festival , a Kiel Auditorium show in late 1970, and Early 1971 shows at the Fox - THAT Fox show is when I got it; got on the Bus!). These shows were seminal! Thank you so much for releasing this set. I can HARDLY WAIT!

Listen to the River

Done! No problems ordering. I'm just glad I happened to be doing my morning emails when the announcement
popped up. Let the Games begin!

Well...

At least Doc gets more lovingly redone 71, Hendrix freak gets some fall 72, and congrats to the rest of y'all excited about this one....I'm getting disc 10 & 20 with big Dark Stars and fall 73. Sure I'll get hooked on the rest as is usually the case with releases I'm at first apprehensive about..
Curious how long this one will take to sell out?

Nice work

Thanks Dave and Co

oh my goodness

must be dreaming

A crowd pleaser

This box should be a real crowd pleaser. Thanks Dave and Dead.net -- everyone involved. Like the Pacific Northwest box, this regional, but, over the years releases are a nice touch. With that in mind, Dave please consider an MSG N.Y.C. September 1979 release. . .. Just sayin'. I predict it would be an instant sell out and another crowd pleaser.

I really can not wait to see the artwork, box, discs, booklet, inserts, etc..

Vinyl Me Please!

Great offerings! The "Run, Run, Rudolf" with Pigpen was on a GD Hour from the early/mid 90's. One of my required X-mas selections every year near the holiday. Cheers!

Finally able to complete my order!!

Dead.net didn't like my VPN so I turned it off while ordering.

I'm trying not to take this personally.

Yep. Ordered my copy too. …

Yep. Ordered my copy too. And i 2nd the request for an MSG box.

Good times...

Well, JimInMD has no idea that his mentioning Wells Fargo and BBQ sandwiches is clairvoyant, in that Saturday I had problems with my bank (WF) and went out for BBQ sandwiches.... All is well now. And topped off by this new box.

A rough patch has now passed and, if anyone needs a laugh, check out the avatar on the official announcement at the top of the comments page -- it's "Sri" or somebody likely not connected to DL and TPTB.

This sucker gonna sell out in a day or so, max.

What??

Only 6 versions of Beat It On Down The Line???
Count me out.

Ordered! Now trying to…

Ordered! Now trying to decide if I should grab the 12/10/71 5LP set too. Any idea if that one is Limited Edition too?

I Left St. Louis, City of Blues

Oh wow.......a true 70's Show-Me box set, and vinyl to boot.....sign me up! And I just scored tickets for Phish in Denver on Labor Day weekend!!! Not a bad days work.

Yes I'm still alive and lurking.

Be well & Be good dead folks!

KCJ

Edit: BBQ in St. Louis? Laughable...head west

Ordered!

Grabbed the hat as well!

Very excited

The acoustics of the Fox are incredible. I've seen Dylan and Neil Young solo there. I can't imagine seeing the Dead there. The Kiel Center (now called the Scott Trade Center) is awesome too, but the Fox is the best in St Louis.

I'm 2 hours SE of St Louis,…

I'm 2 hours SE of St Louis, so 90% of my concert experiences are from there. Love the Lou!

How do you order it, though?

I can't seem to get through to the pre-order page. It looks plenty good -especially the 1972 and 1973 shows, but I'm drawing blanks trying to order it at the moment.

looks great

DaveRock

Did you select the three ALAC files? They have to be selected even if you don’t intend to download them. The lower pre-order button should then work. If that isn’t the problem then I can’t help It seemed pretty seamless to me. Good Luck.

Edit certainly easier to order than submit the comment 3 attempts and I had to replace the word downlo(ads) with files

Daverock!

Try turning off your VPN. That worked for me.

Wait, what!?!

7 shows, from '71-'73, and there's only 1Wharf Rat?

Phew!

Stillwaters & Colin-thanks for your advice. It was not choosing to download the three tracks to listen to that was stopping me getting through. It does say its a required field, but as I am not going to listen to them I assumed I didn't need to fill in the field.
It would have been ironic if, after checking on here every day since Doomsday to see if a box had been announced, then seeing it had, and that it included shows from the 71-73 era - I found I didn't have the wherewithal to order it !

Now I know why I had a hankering for BBQ yesterday...

Had the Brisket Bomb along pork bellies and hush puppies yesterday for lunch - you guys and gals north of Boston, check out The Rusty Can in Byfield MA...

Looking at Compendium - a Feeling Groovy Jam, a Mind Left Body Jam, a couple of Darkstars, TOOs, Birdsongs plus a Cumberland and a Here Comes Sunshine, wow all I need is a Black Peter - woops check that box too.

Now the important part are the two vinyl ala carte's worthy???

Thankful Dead

I’m actually happy this box set is from the 70’s. I have enough Grateful Dead albums. Had it been a box set from the 60’s, 80’s or 90’s, it would have been harder to pass on.