Listen To The River: St. Louis '71 '72 '73 (20-CD)

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What's Inside:
7 Previously Unreleased Complete Shows On 20 Discs
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/09/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/10/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/17/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/18/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/19/72
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/29/73
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/30/73
Sourced from tapes recorded by Rex Jackson, Owsley "Bear" Stanley, and Kidd Candelario
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Restoration and Speed Correction by Plangent Processes

Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 13,000

Steamboats and BBQ, ice cream cones and Mardi Gras - are you ready to laissez les bons temps rouler with the "gateway" to the Grateful Dead? Meet us, won't you, in St. Louis for seven complete and previously unreleased Dead concerts that capture the heart of the band's affinity for the River City.

LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73 is a 20CD set featuring five shows from the Fox Theatre - December 9 and 10, 1971; October 17-19, 1972; and two from the Kiel Auditorium - October 29 and 30, 1973.

The seven shows in the collection span slightly less than two years, but they represent some of the best shows the Grateful Dead played during some of its peak tours. The music tells the story of a band evolving, changing from one sound to another seamlessly, precipitated – in large part – by significant personnel changes in the Dead’s lineup.

The two 1971 shows feature the original Grateful Dead lineup plus newcomer Keith Godchaux on piano. This version of the band would hold together for the next six months as the Dead embarked upon its Europe ’72 tour. By the time the Dead returned to the Fox Theatre less than a year later, they were without Pigpen, who’d played his final show with the Dead at the Hollywood Bowl on June 17, 1972. A year after the exceptional Fox 1972 shows, the Dead came back to St. Louis, but played the much larger Kiel Auditorium, touring behind the release of WAKE OF THE FLOOD, which came out just two weeks before.

All told, the band played 60 different songs during these shows highlighted by blazing romps through “Beat It On Down The Line” and “One More Saturday Night” and wistful takes on “Row Jimmy” and “Brokedown Palace” (whose lyrics give the collection its name). Meanwhile, the copious jamming ebbed and flowed like the mighty Mississippi River on multiple voyages through “The Other One” and “Dark Star.” Naturally, the band paid tribute to one of its favorite rock and rollers and one of St. Louis’ biggest stars by playing Chuck Berry songs at every show in the collection, including Pigpen galloping through “Run Rudolph Run.”

Each show has been restored and speed corrected using Plangent Processes with mastering by Jeffrey Norman. The collection comes in a slipcase with artwork by Liane Plant and features an 84-page hardbound book as well as other Dead surprises. To set the stage for the music, the liner notes provide several essays about the shows, including one by Sam Cutler, the band’s tour manager during that era, and another by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether, among others.

Due October 1st, LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73, is limited to 13,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net.

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January 20, 2022 - 6:58am

#111

billy the kiddd

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Box sets

Jim, I agree with you about the box sets, as far as the Greek and Frost goes. They could put out box sets of some of the shows from these venues, but I doubt that they would put out a complete Greek or Frost , box of all the shows, not all the shows are knockouts. I feel the best shows at the Frost were 1982 & 1985, there are other good shows but I feel those are the best.
January 20, 2022 - 5:17am

#112

JimInMD

Joined:
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Cassette Master Box

I don't see that happening. For the most part they have been restricting box sets to multi-track or good sounding, well recorded reel to reels. I don't see them breaking that precedent any time soon.

It's more likely if we see an 80's show make it's way into a box, it's either multi track or they could possibly stick with their tent pole model where they might surround a theme related box with some great recordings with a tangent cassette master or two that slightly missed the mark.

If there was ever pent-up demand for some of these cassettes being leaked en masse, it would probably be the Greeks, Alaska or the Frost.

I just do not see a box of cassette masters. I don't mean to burst anyone's bubble but if nothing else they have been consistent regarding this, the exception being the 80's shows in Boxzilla.

I could see a fall '72 but I am not sure the timing is great for this with the meat of the St. Louis box being the heart of Fall '72. One other nugget.. Lemieux is on record somewhere saying they are missing reels from the BCT 72 run. That may be true or might have been true at one point in time, but the reels do exist somewhere.. and as we all know the reels almost always seem to find their way back to the vault.

So what's in the next box? I think it will be a grand surprise. (then again the last time I said grand surprise we got a Giant(s) Box, which was a grand surprise).
January 20, 2022 - 3:23am

#113

daverock

Joined:
September 1, 2014

match plan

Maybe the best way forward would be an expanded Ace, a couple of RSD vinyl releases from Europe 72 ( although I know not everyone goes for vinyl) and....a Fall 72 box.
January 19, 2022 - 7:17am

#114

hendrixfreak

Joined:
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Prior to 30 Trips...

I had expressed my wish for one show from each year of the first ten years, 1966-1975, and I got my wish -- except with 20 extra shows I didn't need. Prior to LIsten to the River I had stumped for fall '72 and we got three killer fall '72 shows. Dave L. did say that a fall '72 box "has to happen sometime." (I paraphrase.) Why not 2022? I was thinking two nights in Paris and the Amsterdam/Rotterdam shows for a finely tuned mix remaster release. But if 1972 turns into a theme, then we're more likely getting an expanded Ace and the earliest '72 show and/or a fall '72 box. As DR mentioned, there is a ton of fall '72 and six shows would hardly dent it.

Otherwise Dave L. goes rogue and does 20 CDs of 1980s cassettes... and I don't see that selling. But I'm a notoriously bad salesman.
January 19, 2022 - 4:35am

#115

KeithFan2112

Joined:
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And Now For Our Next Morbid Selection.....

Slow morning...I keep listening to Attics of My Life, Brokedown Palace, and Stella Blue.

Next Box Set - well,.since my All Dark Star idea appears to have been ignored, I'll drop back to another monster box like E72. A group of 3 shows from each year, just the best sounding stuff, from 1968 through 1974. If each year features chronological shows just call it "The Runs".
January 19, 2022 - 4:09am

#116

daverock

Joined:
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Fall 72 for Fall 2022?

It would be great if Fall 1972 could be the subject of the next box-even though it featured in the last one. The shows I have heard from this period are so uniformally excellent that it wouldn't matter if they went back there again. In fact, they could release all of them.
I can't say the same for May 1977, though. I think I have got all the ones that have been officially released so far, and we all know now how well they were playing then. But I don't listen to all the ones I have got in any one 12 month period-which suggests I don't need another one. They skim the surface a bit for me.

Billy - life sounds good!
January 18, 2022 - 1:15pm

#117

billy the kiddd

Joined:
November 8, 2021

BBQ time

First up , Jimmy Reed. box set, the Vee Jay years. What time is it? 10am. Ribs & Chicken , first beer Old Rasputin, My brother was fortunate to see Jimmy Reeds last show, I wish I was 21 I would have been there. Last show Jimmy Reed & Charlie Muslewhite what a great bill. Time to put that chicken on and crack another beer.
January 18, 2022 - 10:58am

#118

hendrixfreak

Joined:
February 26, 2014

A lack of excitement for #41

All my "insights," in retrospect (that is, moments after I press "save") are painfully obvious, yet I post them anyway... Oh well, maybe that's how it goes in one's 60s... I'm only six months from 65 and still getting used to yelling "Get off my (shitty) lawn!" even when there's no one there. My hair and beard are getting long and I don't shower but every 4-5 days. Why bother?

Oh, my point. #41, which is 5-26-77 if memory serves (there I go again), seems to be generating zero excitement. I think this is because spring '77 is so well-represented by official releases that we all know what to expect. Sure, a real, reliably rockin show, but nothing we haven't heard before. Pleasure to be had? Certainly. But I'll bet they had this selected and mixed long ago, freeing up time and effort for this year's "projects" -- a box (apparently Rhino prefers 20-CD boxes, per Dave's Listen liner notes) and ... what else? Something else, as Dave said one project had to be bumped to 2023, they were so freakin' busy. So, perhaps, something related to the 50th of 1972? A six-show revisit of E72?? It's been out 11 years and individual shows are OOP.

Another amazingly obvious point: I'll bet there's a ton of film and audio left over from the GD Movie and 2024 would be the 50th and the time to release it. Okay, sonic issues could complicate matters (see Steal Your Face). I'm still not used to the heavy reverb-drenched 4-CD "movie soundtrack," but it established that they must have some audio in decent shape. I could see Dave & Co. dialing up all the complete audio that they have video for and putting it out, plus bonus audio. There's been total silence on this notion, indicating to me that a) it's possible, b) I'm laughably off the mark.

So, after PNW and Listen to the River, which delivered 13 full shows in my '71-'74 wheelhouse, I'm utterly without guesses as to the 2022 box. Still, I shamelessly say that it could be a location with shows over time (theme of aforementioned box sets) or a focus on an under-represented year such as '79. (Because it has a "7" in it and because they'll need 6-7 shows to hit Rhino's sweet spot. I'm less excited for the music (it's unknown), but will be fascinated by the choice. Oh yeah, it's January. Probably no news for 4-5 months...

29 days with a boot on my leg and 7 to go before I start rehab (on the ankle, that is). And I'm taking out my antsy-ness on my good brothers here. Oh cruel world!
January 18, 2022 - 10:50am

#119

daverock

Joined:
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layers - HF

To add another layer, I knew absolutely nothing about the origin of any of the songs on "American Beauty" when I first heard it -and I still thought it was wonderful. And still do. That's another layer of Robert Hunter's skill- not only did he write lyrics that seemed to express the feelings of band members, in doing so, he also got through to people as far away as me-a teenager living in another country. I think I've just re-phrased something you already said! Anyway.

And, yes, they should definitley release 8/21/68 in it's entirety. I don't think too many people would complain if they dropped the comic this time around.
January 18, 2022 - 9:34am

#120

JimInMD

Joined:
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Frankie Hart (Weir)

I don't think Frankie Weir died until sometime later, perhaps in the early 2000's as a result of declining health perhaps related to Lupus? They broke up in 1975 I believe. I think her real name was Judy Azzara with Azzara being a married name.

I might not be 100% correct in the above, if anyone has any better detail please feel free to clarify.

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What's Inside:
7 Previously Unreleased Complete Shows On 20 Discs
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/09/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/10/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/17/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/18/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/19/72
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/29/73
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/30/73
Sourced from tapes recorded by Rex Jackson, Owsley "Bear" Stanley, and Kidd Candelario
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Restoration and Speed Correction by Plangent Processes

Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 13,000

Steamboats and BBQ, ice cream cones and Mardi Gras - are you ready to laissez les bons temps rouler with the "gateway" to the Grateful Dead? Meet us, won't you, in St. Louis for seven complete and previously unreleased Dead concerts that capture the heart of the band's affinity for the River City.

LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73 is a 20CD set featuring five shows from the Fox Theatre - December 9 and 10, 1971; October 17-19, 1972; and two from the Kiel Auditorium - October 29 and 30, 1973.

The seven shows in the collection span slightly less than two years, but they represent some of the best shows the Grateful Dead played during some of its peak tours. The music tells the story of a band evolving, changing from one sound to another seamlessly, precipitated – in large part – by significant personnel changes in the Dead’s lineup.

The two 1971 shows feature the original Grateful Dead lineup plus newcomer Keith Godchaux on piano. This version of the band would hold together for the next six months as the Dead embarked upon its Europe ’72 tour. By the time the Dead returned to the Fox Theatre less than a year later, they were without Pigpen, who’d played his final show with the Dead at the Hollywood Bowl on June 17, 1972. A year after the exceptional Fox 1972 shows, the Dead came back to St. Louis, but played the much larger Kiel Auditorium, touring behind the release of WAKE OF THE FLOOD, which came out just two weeks before.

All told, the band played 60 different songs during these shows highlighted by blazing romps through “Beat It On Down The Line” and “One More Saturday Night” and wistful takes on “Row Jimmy” and “Brokedown Palace” (whose lyrics give the collection its name). Meanwhile, the copious jamming ebbed and flowed like the mighty Mississippi River on multiple voyages through “The Other One” and “Dark Star.” Naturally, the band paid tribute to one of its favorite rock and rollers and one of St. Louis’ biggest stars by playing Chuck Berry songs at every show in the collection, including Pigpen galloping through “Run Rudolph Run.”

Each show has been restored and speed corrected using Plangent Processes with mastering by Jeffrey Norman. The collection comes in a slipcase with artwork by Liane Plant and features an 84-page hardbound book as well as other Dead surprises. To set the stage for the music, the liner notes provide several essays about the shows, including one by Sam Cutler, the band’s tour manager during that era, and another by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether, among others.

Due October 1st, LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73, is limited to 13,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net.

Hard to believe I'm the first comment

Guess I got lucky?

This is a box set to get on board with. I like the concept of "the river". Listened to 12/10/71 last night at store, very nice show, very nice recording off archive. "Official" release should be a-ok.

NOW WHERE IS DaP 39???? :-)

Plangent Processes ....

.... I am in! Dutifully ordered; grateful for the embarrassment of riches

2021 Box Set

Another big surprise from Dave. A St. Louis 71-73 combo, nobody had this on their radar screen. Just ordered mine. Never have seen a box released without a seaside chat. What the hell is going on? I am excited!

Yahoo!

You are the MAN, Dave!!!

And all the PTB.

:)))

Wonder what the box is gonna look like?

No pictures of the box!

OMG!!

So, everyone was right: it's a '71, fall '72, fall '73 box. The setlists really reflect the band's evolution, especially going from a 7-minute Playing in the Band to a 20+ minute version over the course of the year.

Beautiful the way this box will provide the pre-Euro '72 and post Euro-'72 band in all its glory.

$200? There's the sweet spot.

I believe this will take me a good deal of the w-w-w-winter to listen to, much less fully absorb.

Yet another multi-year geographic focus. Well played, Dave! Muchas gracias!

The record industry is killing me...

Is there no end to the releases this month!!!??!?!

We got the Joni, we got the Dylan, we got the dead, we got the lee morgan.

No way I can hide all this from my wife!! I can hide the mail when it comes,,, but,,,, that new book shelf to hold all this stuff I can't hide as easily!

LIstening to Birdsong from 10/17/72,,,, another one from the archive that is damn near perfect, official release should be even better!!!

At Last

Been waiting months for this announcement and it’s seven early 70’s shows which I love. Ordered immediately as I expect the 13000 will go quickly. Can’t wait for Autumn to listen to these shows. Now roll on DaP39!

Wonderful!....

....simply wonderful!

Got the Fox Box I Have Been Asking For....

....and then some. This is an instant classic.

Killer box set!

I just ordered 2, one for me and one for my brother. What a knockout!

Oooooooh....

....I like that cap a lot. SOLD!

Yippee

Of course I’ve ordered it!

OK, GD

You got my $$$ for a very appreciated release.

My first show anniversary was this past Sunday (7/18/82)...39 years later, the long, strange trip continues.

God Bless the Grateful Dead!!!

I Totally Understand Dennis!!

Dead Fox Box Ordered - check! Lee Morgan Lighthouse Box Ordered - check! Bob Dylan Bootleg Springtime In NY Ordered - check! Plus sundry Dave McMurray, Crosby, Drive-By Truckers, and Son Volt - check! Separation & Divorce - pending!

I just got notice the dog's license is up for renewal, so I can start by adding a zero on the end of that charge on the books...New cord for my tools, add a zero to the total....

Only one Cumberland?!....

....what a rip off. Cancelling my order (kidding).

wut

...this came as a surprise, however the pre-available sleuthing that was initiated yesterday has now paid off.

Thanks GD!

Sixtus

How fast will it sell out?

FAST!

Yes!

To Dave L - Thank You! Many of us (myself included) have been asking for the Fox shows in some capacity. It is clear you watch these boards. I know from the Seaside chat that these shows have been on your radar for a while. Still these shows have been heavily discussed on the boards in recent years so we are being given what we asked for. Adding the shows from 1973 is the icing on the cake.

Of course I ordered this box as soon as I saw the announcement. I can't wait to get it.

Right in the sweet spot

Count me in again. Great combo of shows here.

Thoughts

I was so excited to hear about this new boxed set. After learning about these shows, I’m even more excited. I’m glad that it spans three separate years in the Dead cannon, and the setlists look amazing. Even the shows without the Dark Stars, Other Ones, and other jam vehicles look interesting and captivating. Even more, I’m very grateful that some of this material is getting released separately as well. The 12/10/71 show is getting released on both CD and vinyl(!), and the Playin’>Drums>DS>Dew>Playin’ is getting released on vinyl too. Very smart decision. Overall, this is very exciting.

Three Comments

First, is it "Only One Cumberland?...." or, "It's Got a Cumberland!"

Second.. thank you GD/David Lemieux.. not many of you know this, but HendrixFreak has been both on a hunger strike and out on the ledge of 53rd floor of the Wells Fargo Building in Denver threatening to jump unless he gets a Fall '72 box. I am happy to report he is down off the ledge and finishing a greasy pulled pork sammy at the BBQ joint around the corner. Extra greasy...

Third.. Dennis, I am beginning to feel much sympathy for your wife.

All is good with the world again. As you were.

So I go downstairs.....

... after a morning of ordering more "stuff" from the cornucopia of musical choices being given us (or thrusted upon us), I head down to read my favorite monthly paper "The Funny Times".

There is the single panel joke. Guy at an AA meeting talking to the group.

My name is Roger. I own a plethora of music on original vinyl, eight-track, cassette and compact disc. Including most digital file formats. I was about to buy remastered rereleases on 180-gram vinyl when my wife said I needed help.

Bottom of panel labeled "Audiophiles Anonymous"

Funny, fate or cry for help?

I was thrilled when I saw…

I was thrilled when I saw this news. October 19, 1972 was the night I got on the bus. I thought the roof was gonna come off the place during the Casey Jones at the end of the first set. At that moment I knew I wanted more of this. I never missed a St. Louis show after that.

I've been waiting almost 50…

I've been waiting almost 50 years for these! These were amongst the first shows I attended (along with the Miami Rock Festival , a Kiel Auditorium show in late 1970, and Early 1971 shows at the Fox - THAT Fox show is when I got it; got on the Bus!). These shows were seminal! Thank you so much for releasing this set. I can HARDLY WAIT!

Listen to the River

Done! No problems ordering. I'm just glad I happened to be doing my morning emails when the announcement
popped up. Let the Games begin!

Well...

At least Doc gets more lovingly redone 71, Hendrix freak gets some fall 72, and congrats to the rest of y'all excited about this one....I'm getting disc 10 & 20 with big Dark Stars and fall 73. Sure I'll get hooked on the rest as is usually the case with releases I'm at first apprehensive about..
Curious how long this one will take to sell out?

Nice work

Thanks Dave and Co

oh my goodness

must be dreaming

A crowd pleaser

This box should be a real crowd pleaser. Thanks Dave and Dead.net -- everyone involved. Like the Pacific Northwest box, this regional, but, over the years releases are a nice touch. With that in mind, Dave please consider an MSG N.Y.C. September 1979 release. . .. Just sayin'. I predict it would be an instant sell out and another crowd pleaser.

I really can not wait to see the artwork, box, discs, booklet, inserts, etc..

Vinyl Me Please!

Great offerings! The "Run, Run, Rudolf" with Pigpen was on a GD Hour from the early/mid 90's. One of my required X-mas selections every year near the holiday. Cheers!

Finally able to complete my order!!

Dead.net didn't like my VPN so I turned it off while ordering.

I'm trying not to take this personally.

Yep. Ordered my copy too. …

Yep. Ordered my copy too. And i 2nd the request for an MSG box.

Good times...

Well, JimInMD has no idea that his mentioning Wells Fargo and BBQ sandwiches is clairvoyant, in that Saturday I had problems with my bank (WF) and went out for BBQ sandwiches.... All is well now. And topped off by this new box.

A rough patch has now passed and, if anyone needs a laugh, check out the avatar on the official announcement at the top of the comments page -- it's "Sri" or somebody likely not connected to DL and TPTB.

This sucker gonna sell out in a day or so, max.

What??

Only 6 versions of Beat It On Down The Line???
Count me out.

Ordered! Now trying to…

Ordered! Now trying to decide if I should grab the 12/10/71 5LP set too. Any idea if that one is Limited Edition too?

I Left St. Louis, City of Blues

Oh wow.......a true 70's Show-Me box set, and vinyl to boot.....sign me up! And I just scored tickets for Phish in Denver on Labor Day weekend!!! Not a bad days work.

Yes I'm still alive and lurking.

Be well & Be good dead folks!

KCJ

Edit: BBQ in St. Louis? Laughable...head west

Ordered!

Grabbed the hat as well!

Very excited

The acoustics of the Fox are incredible. I've seen Dylan and Neil Young solo there. I can't imagine seeing the Dead there. The Kiel Center (now called the Scott Trade Center) is awesome too, but the Fox is the best in St Louis.

I'm 2 hours SE of St Louis,…

I'm 2 hours SE of St Louis, so 90% of my concert experiences are from there. Love the Lou!

How do you order it, though?

I can't seem to get through to the pre-order page. It looks plenty good -especially the 1972 and 1973 shows, but I'm drawing blanks trying to order it at the moment.

looks great

DaveRock

Did you select the three ALAC files? They have to be selected even if you don’t intend to download them. The lower pre-order button should then work. If that isn’t the problem then I can’t help It seemed pretty seamless to me. Good Luck.

Edit certainly easier to order than submit the comment 3 attempts and I had to replace the word downlo(ads) with files

Daverock!

Try turning off your VPN. That worked for me.

Wait, what!?!

7 shows, from '71-'73, and there's only 1Wharf Rat?

Phew!

Stillwaters & Colin-thanks for your advice. It was not choosing to download the three tracks to listen to that was stopping me getting through. It does say its a required field, but as I am not going to listen to them I assumed I didn't need to fill in the field.
It would have been ironic if, after checking on here every day since Doomsday to see if a box had been announced, then seeing it had, and that it included shows from the 71-73 era - I found I didn't have the wherewithal to order it !

Now I know why I had a hankering for BBQ yesterday...

Had the Brisket Bomb along pork bellies and hush puppies yesterday for lunch - you guys and gals north of Boston, check out The Rusty Can in Byfield MA...

Looking at Compendium - a Feeling Groovy Jam, a Mind Left Body Jam, a couple of Darkstars, TOOs, Birdsongs plus a Cumberland and a Here Comes Sunshine, wow all I need is a Black Peter - woops check that box too.

Now the important part are the two vinyl ala carte's worthy???

Thankful Dead

I’m actually happy this box set is from the 70’s. I have enough Grateful Dead albums. Had it been a box set from the 60’s, 80’s or 90’s, it would have been harder to pass on.