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marye

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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September 18, 2023 - 5:10pm

#831

icecrmcnkd

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“Hey Rocky, watch me levitate Garcia”

Per your suggestions, doing the 9-18-87 anniversary.

I suspect that everything in the Vault that sounds good will get digitized, and a lot has probably been done already since the tapes are degrading and the job needs to get completed. Also, storing digital copies at various geographic locations can be an insurance policy against things like the Universal Music warehouse fire, California Earthquake(s), etc. Futhurmore, I assume that when Dave is perusing potential releases he listens to a digital copy, not a cassette copy, then he picks a few shows to discuss at the next business meeting.

Some will get the Full Norman.
Some will even get Plangentized.
Everything that gets digitized will be available for download and/or streaming in the future, we may just not be alive to spend the money on such.
The Vault will become the Catalog.
We are financing the digitization of the Vault by buying the new releases.
So bust out Dennis’ wife’s credit card and keep buying.
(Well, at least Dennis can bust out the credit card)
September 18, 2023 - 2:02pm

#832

Oroborous

Joined:
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Misery loves company, JK

Yeah 1stshow I hadn’t planned to do it.I mean I’ve been meaning to, but, like many things nowadays, always low on roundtoits ; ). Reminds me of this guy we picked up on Ziggy Marley tour doing merch back in 96 I believe.
Flew into DC, met PK from Jersey, counted stuff in at the 9:30 club, then just tried to keep up with ole PK. Out on town all night, then immediately had to drive to next show etc…
Dude knows everyone everywhere and can get you ANYTHING you need in almost any city!
Damn Rastas were asking him to get them weed everywhere as he had better connections lol
Been a road dog forever! Anywho, somewhere in the mayhem we ran into a buddy of his from Virginia who decided one show wasn’t enough fun. He only ment to go to the next one, and every night kept saying “ok, this is the last one, then I have to get back”…we’ll this went on for over a week until finally, after Panama beach show we literally had to make him get on a bus and go home lol. Guy was helpful and we all had big fun, but the poor bastard was wearing the same clothes etc and didn’t have anything with him, totally spontaneous trip. Think after a couple daze we bought him some fresh underwear and gave him a couple tour shirts to change into lol.
So that’s kinda how I started E72 this time, ok, I’ll do one more. Finally, though this isn’t a good time, time wise etc, figured, fug it, buy the ticket, take the ride! So, always more fun with a tour buddy!

Yeah, I’m with you on 5/3. It is a damn good show, but I didn’t get as blown away as some…
But I’ll need to reacquaint with it…top five, good luck. I can’t do it. Their all so good, sure I like some perhaps more, but their just different enough I can’t pick a top dog…
Yeah, what a surprise, the French were the most vocal lol

Yeah DV, im worried about the VIKS, Bills too, though they seemed like their old selves again this week. But like the Viks, ya never know what’s next lol. Rootin for underdog Lions, and Falcons, though I really like this kid Field with Da Bears…
I’ll have to try and find that Dave article. He always says that and he doesn’t do it all the time, and they have mostly stayed clear of anniversaries, but he has been dipping liberally from that early possibilities list he mentioned back at the start of DaP.

Those all sound familiar Jim, but I’m on a job site so can’t look up in my Db.
Tempting all, but I’m on tour in Europe with ole 1stshow and don’t like to listen to other Dead until the trip is over…
1970 is perhaps last frontier I haven’t really got the toe wet yet. Need another roundtoit!
September 18, 2023 - 1:19pm

#833

DeadVikes

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Shows/Relix

Hey OB, not off to a good start here in MN, but actually not that surprised. Go Bills!

There is an interesting article in Relix with Dave L. that was posted last week I believe. Check it out.
Dave claims there is no list and they don't generally release shows or box sets based on anniversaries. This year's box was just a coincidence. So, what does that mean for 2024? Not sure. Would love to see that October 74 Winterland box released. Who wouldn't?
I thought the 74 Winterland shows were recorded by Bill Wolf as part of the Movie production agreement with United Artists. I believe everything is there and based on the material from the 2005 soundtrack, and bonus material, it is fantastic.

Madison Square Garden 87. Those are some good shows Jim. Might have to join you on 9/18 as I have that 30 Trips show handy.
September 18, 2023 - 12:12pm

#834

1stshow70878

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5-3-72 Paris

Huge and another damn near perfect show with 3 Other Ones! The crowd seems more engaged and yelling a bit more than some of the more polite audiences. And interestingly they didn't understand that the show wasn't over at set break. Read attendee Bob Welle's review in DeadbaseX and his cool viewpoint of having been cruising around EU and just luckily caught this one, wondering who are these new people on stage.
After all these good ones in a row it's hard to see the almost Barton Hall fervor over this one though. I'm having a tough time doing a top 5 of the first 11 shows they are all so good but this one is certainly in there. Onward indeedy! Didn't expect anyone to join in my insanity to do them all so good on ya' Oro. Had to do it once in a lifetime, lol.
Cheers
September 18, 2023 - 12:02pm

#835

JimInMD

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Ha

I was talking about a mini box of Feb '74 before they released 2/24 (and now 2/23), but I like the way you think.

I always assumed, probably incorrectly, that there were problems with the recordings of much of the October 74 run. I know Owsley was very vocal that they had excessive bleeding from mic to mic, etc.

As for something to listen to today.. not that I am strictly a Today in GD History person but 9/18/70, 9/18/74 and 9/18/87 were all excellent shows. 9/16/87 was surprisingly good for the period also.

That's all I have for now.
September 18, 2023 - 11:37am

#836

Oroborous

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Ok, back to Europe

Hit 5/7, 5/10, and 5/11 this WE. Of course I’ve forgotten the finer points and things I wanted to say, but I’ve not wanted to be overly analytical, or get distracted with notes, and instead, just get right, relax, and try to enjoy them. (Which has not been hard ; )
5/7 is just too much! It’s not always the most precise or perfect of the tour, but that’s because it’s a freight train on steroids!
I’ve always preferred full steam ahead Dead even when that leads to more worts, not that this one has many, perhaps just a few more noticeable than some of the more reserved, precise (hey, they were trying to make an album) shows.
Actually, I think the album factor is one reason this tour is so good. They’re in a place where they’re ontop of their game and can let it rip, but keeping it just enough under raps to keep the consistency high for recording purposes.
Win win, but 5/7 seems more about the live gig, the large miserable crowd that seems to really appreciate the effort etc, more than playing it straight for the tape machine?
Choo Choo, all aboard! what a beast! Garcia starts out in 5th gear and doesn’t let up for almost 4 hours!
Dark Star AND an Other One! Full on grease fest with six beauties, including a nice LL that fits the format better than going on too long, and a nice unusual Segway into GDTRFB. Clearly they were enjoying themselves in spite of the conditions? They joke about blowing the big ones, but not this time bubba!
I’ve had this one so have heard it several times, but it was a real treat to sit outside in a warm but not super hot day and just groove on this one!
Yesterday I hit 5/10 for the first time and unfortunately didn’t get quite the best listen, at least to the later parts.
But I did enjoy it, even if it was perhaps a little more laid back than 5/7 etc. Hey they all can’t be rocket ships lol.
The word that kept coming to me was Smooth…this show seemed smooth. They’re gelling as a unit so well by now, and the consistency is so good. Sure there’s a miscue or clam every once in awhile, (I dare you to find a show that there isn’t ; ) but the overall tightness, energy, musicianship is truly better or on par with any tour they ever did!
Of course there’s the sweet He’s Gone they finally got right, and why it’s the one! Another Sing me as they’ve worked that one in the repertoire nicely. And if I remember correctly, this had another of those unusual Other Ones, kinda jazzy perhaps and similar to 4/16? Unfortunately this one’s a blur for various reasons including hitting 5/11 afterwards. I’ll definitely want to rehit this, 5/3, and the Wembleys after the tour…but for now I want to go in order…
Ok, 5/11, this one for whatever reason has always been perhaps my favorite?
Not saying it’s the best show of the tour, just for whatever reasons perhaps my favorite?
Certainly the set list is part of it: Nice Playing if not huge opener, plenty o grease, including a cool and final Caution, with final WHO Do You Love tease, Nice Truckin ender to mix it up, and a very cool, perhaps unusual Dark Star!
Maybe it’s just because I think this might have been the first ala cart show I bought when I hand to the head realized what I was missing not having these Dark Stars? (Now realizing same about the cool spacey TOO’s)
Other One can get real repetitive but these ones are often very diverse and different! The weirder the better I say!
Whatever the reasons, this show, even after taking the tour plunge, still resonates very strong for me? Hey, I even think the cover art might be my fav? Ok, maybe I’ll hit it again streaming while working, before moving onto 5/13 and 5/16, both I’ve never heard yet, so hoping I’ll get to spend some extra time with em during the week…
ONWARD! Ok, who stole my Heineken Dark?
September 18, 2023 - 10:34am

#837

Oroborous

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More shows

That’s all I ment.
Everyone’s made good points, and there’s no easy answer.
I was going for a conversation starter more than just to editorialize.
Like most things, no easy answers.
It’s just now that I’m all addicted to this collecting nonsense, I need as many RJ shows as they’ll give us, and I’m afraid things are going to start slowing down, and eventually it won’t be worth it to them, and so many great shows will never get fixed up and released. And don’t you worry 1stshow ole buddy, there’s still plenty of RJ shows in the vault.
As a rabid nut trying to tag as many of em as I can before I croak, I’m here to tell ya there’s plenty of gold left in them there hills! Yes many are cassette, but the gang has been getting better and better every year at fixing em up!
And, there’s still lots of DATs and still a decent amount of killer multitracks, all just rotting in the vault!

I totally get what yer saying, but think of it this way: suppose the summer 78 box was never released and only a couple others from that year. If they came out and said “this is your one chance to get the 20 best of 78”, including those shows in the July box, would you not find some way to get it? For sure, not everyone is going to want all of em, but I think you’d be able to scrape up at least 10k folks who would want at least one or 2?
Really they should be digitizing them all, or at least the top 20 or 30 from each year that haven’t been released, and have a system where they announce a certain number, or block at a time, and do pre orders, to have inventory control.
Some shows might sell big, some not so much. Perhaps have a rule that shows that don’t meet a certain threshold won’t get released?
I guess the solution would involve somehow having a cost effective way to prep them, but pre order so you don’t always have to have such big sales numbers for every show? Perhaps DL like you say, but that hasn’t worked so well, so far anyway…
Again, no easy answers, and I totally understand other pov. I just would hate to see so much good music not get the treatment it deserves. And yeah, the archive is awesome, but there’s nothing like getting a great show that’s been fully fixed/Normaned!

Hey DV, where ya been hiding? Good to see ya, and sorry, I won’t mention you know who. It has got to be really tough being a fan. It’d be one thing if they just stunk, but they have potential, if only they could stop beating themselves.
A well, it’s early still…
September 18, 2023 - 9:17am

#838

DeadVikes

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Releases

Would love to see more shows released. My preference is still CDs.
It would be interesting to know what the terms of the contract are with Rhino? Are they able to release as much as they want or are there limits?
Do they even have the ability to release more per year then they currently are? Is Jeffrey Norman able to mix and master much more than he is now. He might need help. Maybe you could assist OB?

There are some shows they already mixed and mastered that could be released on CD. For example, the two shows from the first Road Trips that they released as digital downloads, 11/5 and 11/6 1979. Also, the shows from the download series.
Would also be interested in more video. Why not release the shows from the MUATM. They did this with the 91 show in the Giants stadium box, but would love to see the others released at some point. The 91 Chicago show was really good.

Okay, seems others are talking about 1988 for #48. We will see next month.
September 18, 2023 - 8:46am

#839

1stshow70878

Joined:
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Box discussion

I'm a dinosaur as Oro describes it and know zero about streaming and how younger folks get their music, movies, and TV but I'm guessing the Dinos are the ones buying hard copy CDs. My question is, if the '80s and '90s scene was populated by more younger concertgoers in huge stadiums in numbers way beyond the earlier shows shouldn't there be a demand for those shows in a format they like? I'd bet lots of folks will buy a show they attended. Mickey's model may fit that some day. That said, I'm ignoring the fact that some earlier shows had attendance in the 100,000+ range (Englishtown?) but there were just a few of those. I know Dave said that the last increase to 25,000 copies per release would be the last increase and maybe that's the limit for profitability for hard copy. I'm guessing the download option would be more profitable regardless of sales numbers (if they could ever get the damn things to work!) as all you need is a bank of servers and a few tech savvy people to run it. Large box offerings could be done as a pick and choose your favorite with quantity discounts for more shows. I know I won't be buying twenty shows from individual years I don't like as much and there is likely some truth in the theory that a good portion of "the good stuff" has already been released. Seems like, as with many things, tech is going to have to save us in this dilemma. Affordability is key either way. I can't afford $500 boxes even if I like the offering. It's as simple as that. So Mickey, let's get digitizing! Us Dinos will just have to figure out how to download and stream.
Cheers
Oh, and the price of the downloads needs to come down. Currently makes no sense if the price is almost the same just without the shipping. No incentive to be green.
September 18, 2023 - 7:44am

#840

Oroborous

Joined:
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Y’all are missing the point…

I’m not talking about preferences, if I was, I’d be down with Conekids idea.
I’m talking about the reality of only a somewhat limited number of boxes getting released.
Their not going to do this forever!!!
For example, say they only releases 8 or 10 more years at one box a year.
With 3 show mini boxes that’s only 30 more shows. Plus say 40 more Dave’s. (4x10).
There’s still way more than 70 great shows in that vault…
My plan,
25 for primal 67-70
15 for 71
20 for 72
20 for 73 (at least!
? 74 might just be mostly scraps
20? for 76? Maybe
77 is already over represented so he can spit the last few out on DaP
20 for 78
20 for 79 and 80
20 for 81 & 82
20 for 83 & 84
20 for 85 & 86
20 for 87 & 88
20 for 89 including fall tour (alpine should be a stand alone
90 not sure you’d need to do 20 as it’s already fairly represented?
20 for 91 & 92
20 for 93-95
These plus DaP and special separates and one might say we’ve received most of the best!
Take pre orders plus run an extra 10% so your not stuck with inventory but have a few for Johnny come latelies…
You could still make them “limited”…
Release 2 a year, everybody wins cept maybe the finicky heads who probably won’t buy much more anyway…

Voila, all hardcore heads gets represented,

And remember when Mickey made his bold pronouncement about making all shows available (about the same time he said Phil must have got the liver of a jerk) .
But I’m sure things won’t change, sales eventually will make cost prohibitive and the vault will go to waste, but hey at least we will have most of 77…and four versions of October 74…
Think about the cruel reality of only 3 to 5 shows a year for only 8 more years….the horror!
Tic toc…

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

Althea

Hey Bob t. Good to hear from you.

I always really like the Althea from 9/3/80, download series #7.

In fact that show and release sounds like a good pick for today. Hope you all can check it out again.
Download series #7, 9/3 and part of 4/1980.

download series #7

Also has a tight version of Deal where Brent goes over the top on backup vocals. I'll check it out for the Althea today. P.S. 7-28-82 nice set II version of Althea there, coincidentally the show has a Deal, too. (part of an L>S>D to end set I.)

Download Series

Right on WTJ!

I really dig these download series releases. Really great shows through out the series. I know it would never happen, but I would love to see them go back to all of these shows and release them on CDs. The music is there and they have all been mastered by Norman. I would buy them all. Okay, not going to happen but it would be great to see more music for sale on this site.

I remember 6-7 years ago there was so much music for sale on this site, the problem for me I didn't buy more of it at the time.

Anyway, be well out there. Looking forward to that next box in October...... And I guess no MUATM again this year☹️

MUATM

A potential super spreader event, in multiple cities.
So, let’s have a Shakedown Stream that doubles as a seaside chat announcement for an upcoming Box of videos.

Funny that DV wants the Download Series to be available on CD and on the DaP39 board a few days ago some people were complaining that new CD releases weren’t available for download.

I like 9-3,4%-80 I believe, but have not heard them in a while.
Can’t go there at the moment since I just saw today’s pick but already have 4-7-91 playing.
If that hasn’t been a pick yet, and if you are not familiar with it, give it a play.
So far no 91 in the DaP series, but that’s OK, keep the 91’s coming out on video. In fact, it’s time for View From The Vault 5, the first release of the newly resurrected series to start coming out on BluRay!

Yes Dave, I am waiting (im)patiently to send money to Rhino for video, with audio in 24/192.

Re: Althea

Realizing I am a little late to the party here.. My first instinct was also the 81 Essen W. Germany version.. but,

I was a little bored with things, and especially TV tonight so I picked up wherever it was I last left off on Long Strange Trip and Al Franken happened to have a lot to say about Althea. "You know.. I've listened to like a million Althea's" He called the version from 5/16/80 (multi-track, GoTo Nassau) the one with "the most hair raising solo" "oh my god, it's so unbelievably great"

So there you have it.. it was on Act V, Deadheads. Franken said, he's not a GD historian, he's just a fan. "I'm a Deadhead"

Thanks Al.

ConeKid.. thanks for summoning the spirits of Shakedown Stream. I wholeheartedly agree.

Thanks again for all the Althea recommendations!!!

I passed them along.... hope everyone is having a good summer..... How about some Cape Cod shows from 79, in honor of summer even though they played there in October...... Love that second set opener!! Bob t

Today's Picks

Hey Bob t. Did someone say 1979. Yes, those two shows sound like a great idea to me.
So 10/27 and 10/28 79. Let's do it. I definitely need to give the 30 Trips show another proper listen.

I was out of pocket for most of second part of the day yesterday. What did I miss Oroborous?

Tomorrow Never Knows

Been trying to at least keep the shows flowing, but haven’t had much quality listening time lately.
Did a full listen with 39 on Saturday, Sunday/Monday hit Dicks 35 as well as the rest of 8/6/71 to keep on the Doc train.
Snuck in that 89 show. Another good 89 off the list.
Hit second set of 9/3 from 80s DL. Solid set for sure, nice High Time...can relate, having a hard time living the good life...
79 sounds fine, just not I’ll have the time...no worries, next man up!
I’ll try and work it in with more 71 over the next few days.
Carry On!

Althea

can't go wrong with an Al Franken rec!! thanks King Biscuit for being the reason behind that multitrack sweetness of Go To Nassau.

on a slightly different Althea note. several years ago someone over at IA pointed to a real cool video of Jerry playing Althea where he seamlessly switches from using a pick to finger picking and then back again. like a little magic trick watching it.

Freak Flag Flying

not a POTD but want to rec Freak Flag Flying a real and very cool podcast by Steve Silberman with David Crosby. fantastic and fascinating. lots of great talk, music, history, and life. had no idea about david's career these last few years and it was a revelation. ate it up. There's a linq to Episodes 5 & 6 on the latest Grateful Deadcast (which BTW is on one of my favorite albums ever first Jerry solo Garcia).

here's hoping the monsoons return to our little pocket in the southwest. glorious there for a few weeks in the mountains. the mushroom kingdom was unlike anything i'd ever seen over by the Lizard's Head. Onward!!

oh - it's Annie of 8/12/87

second night red rocks - whole lotta fun

it's got a cumberland
a friend of the devil, esau
bird song>music never stops
and a china cat > rider
a terrapin "it's here!"
moon over the great plain at the end of Quinn

that was some great goodness those nights

Friday the 13th

watch your parking meters

Friday the thirteenth (floor elevators)

No 13th Avenue in San Francisco, Funston Avenue instead. Sometime in the early 80s I was in The Postermat in North Beach owned by the famous Ben Friedman. I met the drummer from the 13th Floor Elevators there. Talk about one wacky Texas band. Gave Sir Douglas Quintet a run for the pesos.
Tomorrow I need to follow doctors orders and listen to August 14, 1971. Grateful Dead at Berkeley Community Theater. My first west coast Dead show.
Dang near green as Ireland here in southwest New Mexico. The clouds have been astonishing, psychedelic, magnificent, or pretty dang bueno. As Rodney Dangerfield says in one of his films; “Rolling Thunder!”

Re: Finger Picking Jerry

I have seen that Althea video.. he sort of uses his stubby finger for pick management. Very cool.. and it kind of explains the feeling and textures he is able to add to his tone. It adds an incredible touch.

Mmmmhhhhhmmm

10/27/79 ✔️
10/28/79 ✔️
8/12/87 ✔️

Though the second set is awesome, and I like how they get a bit outside on Dancin’, this one has felt like one of those?
.....like I think Dave gets into the right neighborhoods and streets, but sometimes picks the wrong house?
Don’t get me wrong, great show, but...or is this just me?

First time with the next night. Going to need to hit some of that again.
Hell, fall 79 is yet another tour that needs the “treatment” but alas that ain’t happening soon.

One of my favorite scenes in nature: the red rock with bright green foliage, especially after it’s rained and the rocks wet
Yaaassss, tomorrow will get 8/14/71 into the mix. (8/15 on Sunday)
Staying on the old Doc Train, striders the conductor, woo-woo!
All aboard!

Mmmmhhhhhmmm

10/27/79 ✔️
10/28/79 ✔️
8/12/87 ✔️

First time with the next night. Going to need to hit some of that again.
Hell, fall 79 is yet another tour that needs the “treatment” but alas that ain’t happening soon.

Yeah, it’s pretty amazing how often, and deftly he switch’s that pick around and finger picks perhaps more than folks realize. Believe Kesey, a magician himself, used to comment on JGs slight if hand technique?

Bluecrow 87

For some reason my last post was deleted. Not sure why. Still working my way through the two 79 Cap Cod shows. These shows are really good, that fall 79 laid back vibe. 10/28/79 is maybe better than 10/27. That China- Rider is hot. Half Step Franklins. Thanks Bob t.
Okay, will check out that 8/12/87 show next from Red Rocks.
Stay well out there.

DV

i saw the post - was surprised when i returned and it was gone. i think you got swept up in a broad anti-spam dragnet - there was some weirdness between my last post and Unkle Sam. Can't believe they didn't grab Annie too. All the shows on that 87 mountain tour were sweet (I think Park City 8/20 is my favorite like i rambled on about last summer.) Somewhere yesterday someone posted a cassette cover of 8/12 and I'm like oh yeah the myth times 87 (ha! not quite the myth times of Berkley 8/14 and 8/15!! - they should mini-box those 2 nights. ) but yeah 87 was a good year! 8/!! first night was my favorite of that Red Rocks run - snagged 2nd row left center for the crew (Phil and Bob right out from us) and that was 1 of only 2 times I was ever that close. A CA taper in the party had mics over the ears and listening to his work you got the slow subtle back and forth of his head as they jammed Playing (it was an awesome audience pull - don't think its circulating.) Beautiful fun evening.

thanks (in advance) for the cape cod POTD 2-fer. cape cod - that's almost like alaska for goodness sakes. legend.

taking my first spin through H-S-F from Dave's 39 #4441. I like it!! Early on had the 4-17 show SBD and it was a fave - recording quality not quite on the same level here (without an A - B yet) but it has that "swing". also haven't gotten to Disc 3 filler yet but really happy up front that they included He's Gone > Little Star filler. I remember hearing Bob Star from one (more than one?) show and thinking that it was pretty damn cool. not a full fledged song but the kinda thing that would have seriously bent my mind live probably. somewhere someone (maybe on Steve Hoffman forum?) remarked that it reminded them of Banyon Tree in that spoken-word-song-sense. I saw and heard Banyan tree a couple of times and thought it was really really cool.

Strider - have been watching with envy all the rain down there. what was going on in the San Juans only lasted about 3 weeks but reallyreally impressive . Over in our part of Utah not so much but a couple of storms got us. Abajos and LaSals got a whole lot more. In recent years have been working down somewhere in the general southern 1/2 NM area. Miss it. yeah Oro!! - rain glistening on the redrock and happy wet high desert plants

Just got to the drums from 39 - what the hell are those little chimes that Mickey(?) is playing? - freaking awesome! Now marimbas?

The Jerry slight of hand with the pick definitely felt like a magic trick. not the only one up his sleeve for sure.

Trouble ahead / trouble behind

And you know that notion just crossed my mind.

“Sometimes I get a great notion”
from “Goodnight Irene” by Lead Belly

“Sometimes A Great Notion” one of the great American novels by Ken Kesey

50 years ago

Major turning point in my life. The west is the best.
August 14 & 15, 1971 was so different from any previous Dead shows I attended. Bay Area Mediterranean (psychedelic) light captured my soul .Here comes more rain. Green on green.

50 years ago Berkeley

that's some myth time for sure - wowza

and more rain this morning - damn that sounds fine.

just found out this morning that 8/14 is David Crosby's b-day! and just noticed that 8/14 Berkeley has a Bill Graham happy birthday David Crosby before the encore. happy b-day Croz!

and if so inclined folks check out that Freak Flag Flying podcast with Steve Silberman and David - really dug it

have a great weekend everybody. onward!!

50 years from now

Will people still be listening to the music of the Grateful Dead?
Me thinks yes, if there is still a human race.

Couldn't agree more

This music is every bit as important and historical as Mozart, Bach and Beethoven. ..or at least we will agree on this in a mere 50 years.

I'm pretty sure Salieri was calling Mozart's symphonies cover band pop noise and his followers freaks and touch heads too.. Not sure history smiled on his thinking...

Pick of the Day

Looking at 6/3/76 for today. Let me know if this one looks good to you all?

Had a great time with last weeks picks and also got in Dick's 33 in the car over the weekend. Haven't listened to this one in a while and yes, it is still outstanding. I don't know how anyone could listen to the second set of the first day and not be really into it, but, I guess it happens.

More Goodness

8/14/71 ✔️
8/15/71 ✔️
Seems like their slightly starting to loosen up again.
The Other ones have Dark Star vibe and nice jams!
Nice Hard to Handle in there too, rare Lovelight, good sheet, just getting a little burnt on the repetitiveness.
Looking forward to the changes coming up!
Especially KGs first show as I’ve not heard that one yet.
Speaking of ones I should but have not heard, 6/3/76 it is!

6/3/76

Glad I finally got to this one, interesting show.
Not sure I’ll be able to have tunes today, but if so perhaps I’ll hit tie next night?

Oh, dug parts of 3/21/90 last night. Proper!
And the Victim was dedicated to all the haters.

Good to see

This pick of the day continues. It has truly helped me to listen to Dead concerts I would not have gone to before. 76 was another great year.

6/3/76

I know I am a day late, but I have a chance to listen to a full show, and I am going with this one. I don't recall having heard it before, and I am really liking what I see from the setlist!

I'm with Strider - super happy that this board continues to chug along! I find that it has pointed me to some excellent shows I would have otherwise missed, and it is a nice respite from some of the more cantankerous and discursive posts on the other boards.

Peace

6/3/76

Oroborous, ha!

Yes, love this Thread. Not as active as it used to be but we are still moving along.

I think the first show back in 76 is pretty good. Sound quality is a solid B++.

Obviously I think they were trying to find their way back during this month. Love these June Scarlett's.

Good start to the rest of the month.

Who has a pick for us? Are you thinking
3/21/90? I am in on that!

Deadvikes good call on 6/3/76

have it on now... found a charlie miller board that sounds good... i think these Paramount shows get passed over a lot because of previous existing copies. someone posted on archive that most of them sound like a swimming pool of molasses... bob t

Amen Otis

Did 3/21/90 last night.
I’ve been hitting 6/4/76 today.
Not as good so far as 6/3, both the audio and the music, still fun to check out and another notch off the ole proverbial list...
Yeah there was a Betty for 6/3 that sounded good and though you can tell their a little rusty,
it’s a good show with cool first versions of several songs.
These shows seem different /unique than even the next/following ones?

6/3/76 Recap

Just finished my listen, and I really enjoyed it! First show of 76, and so many new tunes! I agree that they are a little rusty, but I found a lot to love about this show, particularly the first Lazy Lightning>Supplication that totally smoked, the early 2nd set Wharf Rat, the post "drums" Must Have Been the Roses, and the Help>Slip>Frank that comes so late in the show. The Slipknot in particular grabbed my attention - really good stuff. Cap it all off with an encore of the first Wheel, and you've got a great kick-off to a great month (and an overall great year) of Grateful Dead music.

Thanks for the rec! This is my last week of summer before returning to work (school starts on Monday here in Bmore,) and I plan on hitting up as many full shows as I can while I relax one last time before the grind. Tomorrow I will plan on 3/21/90 - I already have it cued up! Rock on!

Peace

6/3

I haven't had the chance to get to this yet.. but I have listened to it before.

Can you imagine the emotions in the crowd that night? "we're getting the band back together"

3/21/90

I couldn't post on the site last night. Not sure what was going on, but everytime I tried it would log me out.

It is always interesting to listen to one of these show from Spring 1990 after you have been listening to shows from the archive. The sound quality is so good. Great show, always thought they did a great job on Hey Pocky Way. Thanks for bringing us back to Spring 1990 Oroborous.

Who has a pick for today? Jim?

Just goes to show

It is possible to have good sounding 85’s in the Vault.

Been doing 11-1-85 in the car this week and listened to post-Space this morning. I love the sound of She Belongs To Me on this release.

Hope there are more good sounding 85’s in the Vault, especially from summer.

I think that this show has already been a POTDWD, but if not, give it a play.

11/1/85

I don't remember if we did this one or not. I am a bit biased, but like this release. The next night is no slouch either. If we wanted to continue the 85 vibe, try 11/2 (or both). Phil is high in the mix, decent setlist, good show.

If you've never heard it, it's worth a spin. Add in 10/31 and 11/1 and you have a nice, congealed threefor or as we call it here at dead net a Brewer Hat Trick.

85

the fall run that year was killer, check out the Oct 26th show from the Sun Dome in Tampa, awesome Drums>space into a killer Comes a Time, with a Midnight hour encore. That was the year that they brought back the tunes Pig used to do.

Re: GOGD

I hope we haven't lost GOGD to the dark side.. (the Phish.com pick of the day thread).

Right on USam, there is something about Fall '85 (all of '85 really), all the new songs and several high energy shows to pick from. 20th Anniversary, just ten short years left.

11/1/85

Thanks for the pick on this one. Good show.

Do we have another announcement coming next week??

Pick up some Bell's Octoberfest if you can for the weekend. Enjoy!

11/2/85 for tomorrow?

I mixes right into the fold of 11/1.

It was a zoo.. the shows were, I think, quite good.. but the last time the Dead would be allowed to play in the city of Richmond.

If that's ok with the bakers dozen that seems to follow this thread.

GOGD....

....yeah. What happened to him? 11.2.85 is a good show.

SET 1
Bertha >
Greatest Story Ever Told
Dupree's Diamond Blues
C.C. Rider >
Althea
My Brother Esau
Candyman
Let It Grow
SET 2
Iko Iko
Estimated Prophet >
Uncle John's Band >
China Doll >
Drums >
Space >
Morning Dew >
Throwing Stones >
Turn On Your Lovelight
ENCORE
It's All Over Now Baby Blue

11/2/85

Back to back 85, let's do it.

8/21/68 tomorrow?

I caught a little of it on Today in GD History on SiriusXM Radio.. sounded great, recorded on 8 track reels.

Ha, Boreal

Wanted to listen to summer 85 and 8-24-85 was on my music player, so I fired it up without realizing that it was Boreal. Once Bob mentioned Truckee I knew what show it was. Actually sounds better than one would anticipate based on the negative vibe that hangs around the show.
I wasn’t there but aren’t the heat and traffic issues the major reason that this show gets a bad rap?
I’ve mountain biked in that area in the hot summer and the sun is intense up there. And not a lot of shade on the ski slope. Never skied there before but behind Boreal is Sugar Bowl which has some really nice chutes and back country terrain.

Speaking of anniversaries

8-22,23-87
With Carlos on a few songs.

Bound to cover...

11/1/85 ✔️ Forget about this one. Perhaps not the best played show of the year but fun and a great set list!
Yass uncle, most of that tours good. I only saw 2 in Chrotchfester but they were, and are near and dear!
And hey, among other things it’s got a sweet She Belongs!
When this first came out I was like “finally, some 85”, but the haters hated, and over the years I’ve wondered if DL picked a good neighborhood and street, but stopped at the wrong house? Ala Dave. But that’s just thinking out loud and splitting hairs...I like it worts and all!
11/2/85: unfortunately I haven’t gotten to this one, which is a shame cause I’ve not heard in forever. Second set was a go to tape BITD, great set, but I’m not sure I’ve ever heard the first? Need to circle back on it...
Yeah Jim that little 10/31, 11/1, and 11/2 is a nice little southern pie! Though the 29th is worth a listen too.

8/21/68 spinning as we speak. Good sheet mon! Needed a 68 fix! Perhaps VII to carry it on?
I’d like to propose 7/3/66 and the 50th bonus stuff from 7/29&30/66 sometime in the near future?
Perhaps after Conekids 8/22&23&87 rec?

Would really love it if we could do 9/4, 5, and 6/91 for the/(my) 30th anniversary?
I Remember GOGD recommended them last year and I’m not sure I’ve gotten to em yet, so would love to do so if anyone’s down? These were the humping with whales shows so I’d really like to check em out...

But first things first!
Jumped ahead on these since I don’t think I’d be able to get to em Monday or Tuesday, but wanted to keep up on the ole Doc train, with conductor Strider ; ) All aboard!
8/23/71 ✔️Felt this one was hot right outta the gate with a nice Big RR! Perhaps nothing out of the ordinary, but just seemed like a solid, good energy show? Another cool spacey TOO. Also decent helping’ of grease!
8/24/71✔️ I think I might if enjoyed the 23rd more overall? Perhaps situational...but changes is starting to creep into the mix with new tunes! Empty Pages I know I’ve heard, but perhaps not in a very long time, so felt like first time lol.
Interesting, made me think of a Brent style tune...and of course the first Brown Eyed Women, I think?
Fun how it’s so different, especially without the three chord, staccato verse start!
Some more good grease including a Hurts me Too that could easily get mistaken for E72! Tight!
Well, one more then off until October but back with almost yet another whole new band!
Really looking forward to 10/19 as I’ve never heard and there’s all those new songs.

8/21/68

Great Pick!
Another left field chestnut and another notch on the ole bedpost of shows!
Love how they pack so much into a relatively small container.
Good sounding too!

8/21

They played the Dark Star Suite yesterday on TIGDH but I only caught the beginning of the program.. if my ears and memory are correct, the Dark Star started at the beginning yet all of the copies on Archive.org suffer from a reel flip and are missing the beginning. Lemieux also said it was recorded on 8 track and went into a long dissertation about what was recorded on 8 track, then scrapped when 16 track came out, etc.

My thinking is.. it's not copies from the 8 track master that circulate and they have a more complete Multi-Track in the vault just sitting there waiting.. and begging to get a Full Norman and the Plangent Treatment.

@Oro

Ask and ye shall receive, 9-4-91 set I is in this week's installment of the Taper's Section... :-)

'91

I'm down for some '91.