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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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February 22, 2023 - 7:47pm

#1281

rockthing

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5/19/74 > 2/22/69

>daverock>

The vocal dropouts are not evident in the audience tape, so that must have happened on the way to the board tape.

That said, the recording is slightly overpowered by Jerry and Bob's guitars from the taper's vantage point, but a little time with a simple Equalizer was enough to bring more Phil and better presence to the vocals. I do recall a few lyric flubs with the new material, but in the overall mix it didn't really jump out at me. Probably much more obvious in the official release/soundboard recording.

2/22/69>
Oh, my. I can see this is gonna send me on a primal quest. I have all these fall '69 and fall '68 shows that I've never listened to, but I don't have much from the spring of those years. I love this gentle psychedelia. It's really these delicate type of sounds that really trigger the senses. I'm only up to Dark Star at this point, but what a beautiful way to start a show.... oops, "The transitive diamonds?" Haha. I'd probably have trouble remembering my name if I were there, so whatever.

It's such a shame that we're restricted to streaming this show. Imho, if the official release isn't so significantly better sounding than one of these circulating boards that it isn't a no-brainer to buy it, then what's with the classism, eh? I know the boys need a retirement plan... but... --mini rant off--
February 22, 2023 - 10:30am

#1282

daverock

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5/19/74

Rockthing - good notes on this show - cheers! I'm going through it very slowly, but it's the L.P. I am listening to. Although it has the famous vocal drop outs, the sound and balance of the instruments sounds fine throughout to me. I have just played the side with Loose Lucy and Money Money on. A short side. The lyrics are a bit naff on both of them - but I like the music, and they were both played so rarely that when they do crop up, it's a welcome surprise to me.
I presume the version you have listened to has the earlier vocal dropouts too.
February 22, 2023 - 3:51am

#1283

rockthing

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5/19/74 (Part II)

Wrote these notes on Monday morning while drinking my coffee and getting ready to do some work from home. After a while I was mostly distracted by the show.

I'll get to that Feb. 22 '69 show if I can, but I don't have that one handy. Hafta stream it.

The ETree identifier of this source is 115876, btw. I don't have the box set, so these are my first impressions.

It Must Have Been The Roses: Ok. /Now/ I'm awake. Possible tape change? There is suddenly a big improvement in sound quality for this hauntingly sensitive rendition. Jerry's voice is now clear above the guitars. Everything, save Phil, is suddenly much clearer and the sound field feels wider. Up to this point the tape had sounded like the tape the biker is listening to at the beginning of the Dead Movie. Nice harmony work during the refrain, blended well in the house mix.

Loose Lucy: Gettin' in the funk. Jerry's just perfectly behind the beat to make it nice and nasty. If the syncopation isn't just right, this tune can completely lose all form really quickly. Loose Lucy must be a pretty new song at this point. I have no idea when this tune debuted. They didn't do this in concert much, as far as I know. I was lucky enough to see'em do it once, but the performance I saw was almost unrecognizable. Something was wrong with the timing, so it sounded all backwards. I was embarrassed to not even recognize it until Jerry started singing. This is a nice treat.

I Know You Rider? Something seems to be wrong here. The info text says Money Money should be next followed by China/Rider, but we're just dropped into IKYR. Looks like some minor surgery might be needed on the meta data.

Money Money: Ok. Someone's just mislabelled these files. Man, this has always been one of my least favourite songs in the Dead's catalogue. I rarely skip songs on albums, but being the album closer on Mars Hotel makes it easy. I don't think I've ever heard a live version of it, so this is kind of a treat, in its own sort of way. Having not heard it in such a long time, I guess it's not such a bad song. The negativity of the lyric just sems to strike such a contrast to most of the other stuff in the repertoire. John Lennon, for example, has a lot of negativity in his lyrics, but when I listen to him, I expect that.

China Rider: Yeah. They're keepin' that funky groove going that was working so well during Loose Lucy. The transition jam seems to go almost immediately to an I Know You Rider feel. The guitar tone is very unusual here. It almost sounds like Bobby's Gibson 335 tone. He's playing lots of double-stops, where he plays two notes at a time even while soloing… wait… maybe that /was/ Bobby!? Some very cool interplay between Bobby and Phil before a guitar sound that is unmistakably Jerry joins in just ahead of the trademark unison bit before I Know You Rider. What is now clearly Jerry's tone keeps it going after the unison part, and now there's a Feelin' Groovy jam. I can almost see the smiling faces and twirling homemade sun dresses with flowers in the hair right now. Big, big ovation from the crowd as they settle into the Rider vamp before going into the first verse. They know what they've just heard. That was sweet, breezy, and smooth as can be. I'm guessing Jerry had some sort of equipment or other issue causing him to stop playing for a bit at the beginning of the transition. Oh, yeah, Jer, dig into that "On a north bound train" line. This and the out-of-place IKYR are going to get merged into one track when I get a chance.

Set II:
Promised Land: Yeah. Everybody's definitely up off their blankets now.

Bertha: Got a little "Yee Haw" from someone nearby for "All night pouring, but not a drop on me." It's quite amazing how inobtrusive the audience is, considering this was recorded with a handheld mic by someone just hanging out in crowd.

Greatest Story: Nice wah wah Jerry licks. Jerry's wah is so bubbly and has a rich swell, like the sound of a wave on the ocean. Using the rocking motion of the foot pedal definitely puts the player physically off balance, so I can understand why he seemed to abandon it later in favor of the Mutron "auto-wah" tone filter. Sounds so good here, though. Jerry's volume sounds cranked, though, totally drowning everything out. I ain't complaining. Oh, yeah. A little jam in GSET? They seem to have gone into something altogether different. I'm not sure if this is a set piece, but it feels unfamiliar to me. I know that I've heard occasional jams in Greatest Story, but they seem rare. This is definitely no longer the Greatest Story chord progression, but I don't know what it is, and then Wamp, Wamp-Wamp, right back into it. Now I'm gonna hafta start checking out Spring 1974 Greatest Stories. That was hot and adventurous, like maybe something went wrong and they fought through it… but maybe there was just a jam in this song back then.

Ship of Fools: Giving the manic dancers their first break of the second set. The taper is stopping the tape between songs, though, so who knows how long they spent tuning in between. Very nice harmony work from Bobby and Donna.

Weather Report: Seems a bit tentative in the earlier segments, but the Let It Grow jam is developing interestingly. The whole band just seems sort of in a gentle mood this night. Everything is soft and malleable, and most of all, creative, when they go off into improvised sections. The straight tunes are tight and, well, straightforward, but I'm hearing all sorts of novel ideas coming through during the instrumental segments. There seems to be a completely different confidence at work during this jazzy work out. You can hear Billy getting back to his swing roots and playing off Keith. This is fantastic. Such subtle interplay. Normally when I hear the full suite performed I wonder why they didn't continue to use the first parts, but in this case I didn't feel that way.

Peggy-O: Jerry's picking is quite aggressive, and his tone is very chimey, even behind his vocal. Relaxed tempo, even by Peggy-O standards. In this recording it sounds almost like Billy and Jerry doing a duet, but Keith adds some accents here and there.

??: What is this? A playful little jam and some quiet noodling where the audience's shouts and requests become more prominent. Bobby announces technical difficulties.

Truckin': Nice buildup, but not the major bomb drop I'm used to, and from there things start to get really weird. It's not spacy weird, just, "Whoa, what the heck is this?" weird. Some of the early 70s Truckin's could get totally abstract, so this is just the way they rolled back then. Great stuff. Gettin' that funky groove goin' from the first set again, even as the changes take on some jazzy influences. Bobby is very clear in the mix, and my oh, my it's gettin' Weir'ed. Jerry busts in with a burst of guitar feedback which seems to shock everyone for a moment, but they're still groovin'. This is the gold I look for in any show. It's funny because Mind Left Body actually sounds a lot like Loose Lucy. Billy and Phil getting' into a little funky-drummer exchange. Finally Phil breaks through in the mix with some space for him to hit that Bootsy one. In the info text "Jam" and "Mind Left Body Jam" had been listed separately, but they're actually all included in the Truckin' track, which is my preference. Cousinit made a real mess of this file set, but I can fix it. Rarely are there such glaring mistakes on the Archive, but this one has definitely been put together somewhat carelessly.

NFA: This interesting because I've been listening to a lot of Alligator era NFA's or Bean era NFA's, and that gives a nice context to compare to this Wolf tone… of course, there is a LOT of recording tech affecting the sound here, but even though there's a nice honk, everything seems so nice and round and gently muted. Hey. What's this breakdown in NFA. Pretty sure I've never heard that before… and GTRFB. THAT, was an interesting transition.

GTRFB: Nothing to worry about here. The old standby. Billy's hi-hat figure during the breakdown is, again, getting really funky with a swinging 16th note feel, or something. Very cool.

US Blues: Mars Hotel weighted setlist. What month did that come out? Good, tight version.

Johnny B. Goode: Full colosseum clap along for a high energy reading that does justice to the Check Berry original. Sometimes this can get a bit too languid. This one is rockin' hard.

On repeated listen, I've messed with the EQ some. First of all I bumped up the EQ preamp level, I dunno, about 10db, I guess. I then added a further 12db of 64Hz, and 125Hz on the 10 band EQ to bring Phil nicely into the mix, but also lowered almost everything else about 6db on frequencies that had been flat to make the bass frequency differential greater. The bass still isn't terribly defined, but it at least brings Phil into play. He was completely inaudible without EQ. Got just a touch more vocal by giving the 1KHz and 2KHz about 1db. The tape has a sort of nostalgic cheap car speaker sound, so I actually wanna preserve a bit of that… not that I could really get rid of it. There's quite a nice venue ambiance, especially when there is more space in the arrangements, like during the Mind Left Body Jam.

The vocal drop-outs others have mentioned were not audible to the audience.
February 22, 2023 - 3:28am

#1284

daverock

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2/22/69

That is a great show. According to the cd notes it was recorded, along with shows in late January and the Feb-March shows, for possible inclusion on Live Dead. It probably won't happen - the song lists are obviously very similar, but it would make a great box set to release all the shows recorded.
The shows from 1967-1971 inclusive are the main ones for me in 30 Trips.
February 22, 2023 - 1:16am

#1285

Forensicdoceleven

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You can't blame gravity for falling in love…..

Mornin’, rockers!!!

Pick Of The Day: Dream Bowl February 22, 1969

Relatively speaking, the yang to the yin of February 21, 1969. True art is characterized by an irresistible urge in the creative artist…..

I have the space, you have the time, let’s revisit. Officially released in October 2015 as part of Thirty Trips Around The Sun, one almost never hears about this show, possibly because it gets overshadowed by the blazing white hot glare of the Fillmore West Shows of February 27th to March 2nd. This is very much “of a kind” with those shows, featuring the typically sweet Mountains Of The Moon (always loved that song!), a long exploratory Dark Star, a fierce, crunchy Other One, a deathly Death Don’t, a fine Eleven, and a greasy Lovelight that clocks in at a mere 21+ minutes.

Great music, great sound quality, I suggest you find the time…..

The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once…..

Rock on,

Doc
There comes a time when the mind takes a higher plane of knowledge but can never prove how it got there…..
February 20, 2023 - 3:08pm

#1286

daverock

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Heads in Mississippi

That's good to read - they opened with Mississippi Half Step - Franklins Tower the first time I saw them 3/24/81. A great start to the show for sure.
February 20, 2023 - 1:11pm

#1287

PT Barnum

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5-19-74

In my experience, any show that starts off with Mississippi half-step uptown toodleloo is usually a great one and 5-19-74 is no exception. That pacific northwest box grows on ya, for sure.
February 20, 2023 - 12:53pm

#1288

daverock

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5/19/74

I haven't played it this year yet, but it has become one of my most played shows from this year - mainly because I bought it on vinyl. But it is really good, too. To me, it's better than its song list suggests - the songs leading up to the Truckin' jam are well played and forward moving, and that final jam is superb. It has been castigated in some quarters for the vocal drop outs. A price worth paying, in my opinion. All three 1974 shows in the box it was culled from are top notch.
February 20, 2023 - 12:24pm

#1289

DeadVikes

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Dave's 13 and 42

Hey Bluecrow, #13 is definitely in my top five. Love this show. Listen to it quite a bit. #42 hasn't resonated with me as much as #13, don't know why. How do you all feel?

I will throw out Dave's Picks #7, 4/24/78, for our old buddy That's Otis. I believe you are fan of this era. Hope all is well out there for you and the rest of the crew!
February 19, 2023 - 2:34am

#1290

rockthing

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5/19/74

I've got a beta-max transfer of 2/24/74... which stayed in heavy rotation for a long time when it first hit my library, but low and behold Portland 74 has collecting proverbial dust in the old hard disk, too. Time for something brand new (to me).

A Pat Lee master cassette passed down the generations.

It's a little hissy, and I'm not getting much Phil at the start, but Jerry and Bob's gutiars are crystal clear. Jerry's voice coming in a close second in the mix with some occasional Keith flourishes wafting to the fore. Billy's cymbals sound crisp, if somewhat thin. Getting a nice Jamaican dub sound when he switches to the highhat. Kick is in there, clear, but with with a soft tone, and none of the hyper-compressed abrasive contemporary festival sound. Donna's harmonies are on, and blended well with Jerry and Bob for the Across the Rio Grande-oh finale of Halfstep. Jerry plays an aggressive outro solo.

Mexicali: The mix and tape quality remain consistent. It's mostly a guitar oriented sound, but Bobby's voice is clear, if slightly too far back. Even in '74 they could do this one in their sleep. Have you ever heard a real train wreck during Mexicali? I can't recall one. A fan let's out a hoarse, "Whao!" apparently feeling the southwest polka vibes.

Big Railroad Blues. Love me some BRB. There are short pauses in the tape where Pat Lee is clearly well aware of the need to conserve footage. Could do with A LOT more Phil in the mix. Might fiddle with the EQ in a bit.

Black Throated Wind: Awkward song that I sometimes really like, and other times can do without.

Scarlet: Crowd gives Donna a big cheer as the song reaches it's finale. Of course they egged Bobby on with some of his crazy antics, too, but it's nice to hear that early 70s audiences appreciated her contributions.

Beat It On Down The Line: Always love this one. Nice double vocal from Bobby and Donna. Some unfortunate microphone feedback during Jerry's solo. Phil's backing vocals are there. The bass frequencies either never made it onto the cassette, or have evaporated through the generations of open reels and cassettes.

Tennessee Jed: Nice bounce to this laid-back rendition. Another one of my favorite tunes, as I've mentioned before. Another nice, appreciative response from the audience who are almost completely unnoticeable for the majority of the time.

Bobby McGee. I picture the audience mostly having a lie-down on the lawn during this first set. Just a nice day in the park with some live music in the background.

Ok, well, that's as far as I'll get in this sitting, but really looking forward to that big Truckin' jam at the end of the show. Now spoilers! 😉 Just kidding.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

Althea

Hey Bob t. Good to hear from you.

I always really like the Althea from 9/3/80, download series #7.

In fact that show and release sounds like a good pick for today. Hope you all can check it out again.
Download series #7, 9/3 and part of 4/1980.

download series #7

Also has a tight version of Deal where Brent goes over the top on backup vocals. I'll check it out for the Althea today. P.S. 7-28-82 nice set II version of Althea there, coincidentally the show has a Deal, too. (part of an L>S>D to end set I.)

Download Series

Right on WTJ!

I really dig these download series releases. Really great shows through out the series. I know it would never happen, but I would love to see them go back to all of these shows and release them on CDs. The music is there and they have all been mastered by Norman. I would buy them all. Okay, not going to happen but it would be great to see more music for sale on this site.

I remember 6-7 years ago there was so much music for sale on this site, the problem for me I didn't buy more of it at the time.

Anyway, be well out there. Looking forward to that next box in October...... And I guess no MUATM again this year☹️

MUATM

A potential super spreader event, in multiple cities.
So, let’s have a Shakedown Stream that doubles as a seaside chat announcement for an upcoming Box of videos.

Funny that DV wants the Download Series to be available on CD and on the DaP39 board a few days ago some people were complaining that new CD releases weren’t available for download.

I like 9-3,4%-80 I believe, but have not heard them in a while.
Can’t go there at the moment since I just saw today’s pick but already have 4-7-91 playing.
If that hasn’t been a pick yet, and if you are not familiar with it, give it a play.
So far no 91 in the DaP series, but that’s OK, keep the 91’s coming out on video. In fact, it’s time for View From The Vault 5, the first release of the newly resurrected series to start coming out on BluRay!

Yes Dave, I am waiting (im)patiently to send money to Rhino for video, with audio in 24/192.

Re: Althea

Realizing I am a little late to the party here.. My first instinct was also the 81 Essen W. Germany version.. but,

I was a little bored with things, and especially TV tonight so I picked up wherever it was I last left off on Long Strange Trip and Al Franken happened to have a lot to say about Althea. "You know.. I've listened to like a million Althea's" He called the version from 5/16/80 (multi-track, GoTo Nassau) the one with "the most hair raising solo" "oh my god, it's so unbelievably great"

So there you have it.. it was on Act V, Deadheads. Franken said, he's not a GD historian, he's just a fan. "I'm a Deadhead"

Thanks Al.

ConeKid.. thanks for summoning the spirits of Shakedown Stream. I wholeheartedly agree.

Thanks again for all the Althea recommendations!!!

I passed them along.... hope everyone is having a good summer..... How about some Cape Cod shows from 79, in honor of summer even though they played there in October...... Love that second set opener!! Bob t

Today's Picks

Hey Bob t. Did someone say 1979. Yes, those two shows sound like a great idea to me.
So 10/27 and 10/28 79. Let's do it. I definitely need to give the 30 Trips show another proper listen.

I was out of pocket for most of second part of the day yesterday. What did I miss Oroborous?

Tomorrow Never Knows

Been trying to at least keep the shows flowing, but haven’t had much quality listening time lately.
Did a full listen with 39 on Saturday, Sunday/Monday hit Dicks 35 as well as the rest of 8/6/71 to keep on the Doc train.
Snuck in that 89 show. Another good 89 off the list.
Hit second set of 9/3 from 80s DL. Solid set for sure, nice High Time...can relate, having a hard time living the good life...
79 sounds fine, just not I’ll have the time...no worries, next man up!
I’ll try and work it in with more 71 over the next few days.
Carry On!

Althea

can't go wrong with an Al Franken rec!! thanks King Biscuit for being the reason behind that multitrack sweetness of Go To Nassau.

on a slightly different Althea note. several years ago someone over at IA pointed to a real cool video of Jerry playing Althea where he seamlessly switches from using a pick to finger picking and then back again. like a little magic trick watching it.

Freak Flag Flying

not a POTD but want to rec Freak Flag Flying a real and very cool podcast by Steve Silberman with David Crosby. fantastic and fascinating. lots of great talk, music, history, and life. had no idea about david's career these last few years and it was a revelation. ate it up. There's a linq to Episodes 5 & 6 on the latest Grateful Deadcast (which BTW is on one of my favorite albums ever first Jerry solo Garcia).

here's hoping the monsoons return to our little pocket in the southwest. glorious there for a few weeks in the mountains. the mushroom kingdom was unlike anything i'd ever seen over by the Lizard's Head. Onward!!

oh - it's Annie of 8/12/87

second night red rocks - whole lotta fun

it's got a cumberland
a friend of the devil, esau
bird song>music never stops
and a china cat > rider
a terrapin "it's here!"
moon over the great plain at the end of Quinn

that was some great goodness those nights

Friday the 13th

watch your parking meters

Friday the thirteenth (floor elevators)

No 13th Avenue in San Francisco, Funston Avenue instead. Sometime in the early 80s I was in The Postermat in North Beach owned by the famous Ben Friedman. I met the drummer from the 13th Floor Elevators there. Talk about one wacky Texas band. Gave Sir Douglas Quintet a run for the pesos.
Tomorrow I need to follow doctors orders and listen to August 14, 1971. Grateful Dead at Berkeley Community Theater. My first west coast Dead show.
Dang near green as Ireland here in southwest New Mexico. The clouds have been astonishing, psychedelic, magnificent, or pretty dang bueno. As Rodney Dangerfield says in one of his films; “Rolling Thunder!”

Re: Finger Picking Jerry

I have seen that Althea video.. he sort of uses his stubby finger for pick management. Very cool.. and it kind of explains the feeling and textures he is able to add to his tone. It adds an incredible touch.

Mmmmhhhhhmmm

10/27/79 ✔️
10/28/79 ✔️
8/12/87 ✔️

Though the second set is awesome, and I like how they get a bit outside on Dancin’, this one has felt like one of those?
.....like I think Dave gets into the right neighborhoods and streets, but sometimes picks the wrong house?
Don’t get me wrong, great show, but...or is this just me?

First time with the next night. Going to need to hit some of that again.
Hell, fall 79 is yet another tour that needs the “treatment” but alas that ain’t happening soon.

One of my favorite scenes in nature: the red rock with bright green foliage, especially after it’s rained and the rocks wet
Yaaassss, tomorrow will get 8/14/71 into the mix. (8/15 on Sunday)
Staying on the old Doc Train, striders the conductor, woo-woo!
All aboard!

Mmmmhhhhhmmm

10/27/79 ✔️
10/28/79 ✔️
8/12/87 ✔️

First time with the next night. Going to need to hit some of that again.
Hell, fall 79 is yet another tour that needs the “treatment” but alas that ain’t happening soon.

Yeah, it’s pretty amazing how often, and deftly he switch’s that pick around and finger picks perhaps more than folks realize. Believe Kesey, a magician himself, used to comment on JGs slight if hand technique?

Bluecrow 87

For some reason my last post was deleted. Not sure why. Still working my way through the two 79 Cap Cod shows. These shows are really good, that fall 79 laid back vibe. 10/28/79 is maybe better than 10/27. That China- Rider is hot. Half Step Franklins. Thanks Bob t.
Okay, will check out that 8/12/87 show next from Red Rocks.
Stay well out there.

DV

i saw the post - was surprised when i returned and it was gone. i think you got swept up in a broad anti-spam dragnet - there was some weirdness between my last post and Unkle Sam. Can't believe they didn't grab Annie too. All the shows on that 87 mountain tour were sweet (I think Park City 8/20 is my favorite like i rambled on about last summer.) Somewhere yesterday someone posted a cassette cover of 8/12 and I'm like oh yeah the myth times 87 (ha! not quite the myth times of Berkley 8/14 and 8/15!! - they should mini-box those 2 nights. ) but yeah 87 was a good year! 8/!! first night was my favorite of that Red Rocks run - snagged 2nd row left center for the crew (Phil and Bob right out from us) and that was 1 of only 2 times I was ever that close. A CA taper in the party had mics over the ears and listening to his work you got the slow subtle back and forth of his head as they jammed Playing (it was an awesome audience pull - don't think its circulating.) Beautiful fun evening.

thanks (in advance) for the cape cod POTD 2-fer. cape cod - that's almost like alaska for goodness sakes. legend.

taking my first spin through H-S-F from Dave's 39 #4441. I like it!! Early on had the 4-17 show SBD and it was a fave - recording quality not quite on the same level here (without an A - B yet) but it has that "swing". also haven't gotten to Disc 3 filler yet but really happy up front that they included He's Gone > Little Star filler. I remember hearing Bob Star from one (more than one?) show and thinking that it was pretty damn cool. not a full fledged song but the kinda thing that would have seriously bent my mind live probably. somewhere someone (maybe on Steve Hoffman forum?) remarked that it reminded them of Banyon Tree in that spoken-word-song-sense. I saw and heard Banyan tree a couple of times and thought it was really really cool.

Strider - have been watching with envy all the rain down there. what was going on in the San Juans only lasted about 3 weeks but reallyreally impressive . Over in our part of Utah not so much but a couple of storms got us. Abajos and LaSals got a whole lot more. In recent years have been working down somewhere in the general southern 1/2 NM area. Miss it. yeah Oro!! - rain glistening on the redrock and happy wet high desert plants

Just got to the drums from 39 - what the hell are those little chimes that Mickey(?) is playing? - freaking awesome! Now marimbas?

The Jerry slight of hand with the pick definitely felt like a magic trick. not the only one up his sleeve for sure.

Trouble ahead / trouble behind

And you know that notion just crossed my mind.

“Sometimes I get a great notion”
from “Goodnight Irene” by Lead Belly

“Sometimes A Great Notion” one of the great American novels by Ken Kesey

50 years ago

Major turning point in my life. The west is the best.
August 14 & 15, 1971 was so different from any previous Dead shows I attended. Bay Area Mediterranean (psychedelic) light captured my soul .Here comes more rain. Green on green.

50 years ago Berkeley

that's some myth time for sure - wowza

and more rain this morning - damn that sounds fine.

just found out this morning that 8/14 is David Crosby's b-day! and just noticed that 8/14 Berkeley has a Bill Graham happy birthday David Crosby before the encore. happy b-day Croz!

and if so inclined folks check out that Freak Flag Flying podcast with Steve Silberman and David - really dug it

have a great weekend everybody. onward!!

50 years from now

Will people still be listening to the music of the Grateful Dead?
Me thinks yes, if there is still a human race.

Couldn't agree more

This music is every bit as important and historical as Mozart, Bach and Beethoven. ..or at least we will agree on this in a mere 50 years.

I'm pretty sure Salieri was calling Mozart's symphonies cover band pop noise and his followers freaks and touch heads too.. Not sure history smiled on his thinking...

Pick of the Day

Looking at 6/3/76 for today. Let me know if this one looks good to you all?

Had a great time with last weeks picks and also got in Dick's 33 in the car over the weekend. Haven't listened to this one in a while and yes, it is still outstanding. I don't know how anyone could listen to the second set of the first day and not be really into it, but, I guess it happens.

More Goodness

8/14/71 ✔️
8/15/71 ✔️
Seems like their slightly starting to loosen up again.
The Other ones have Dark Star vibe and nice jams!
Nice Hard to Handle in there too, rare Lovelight, good sheet, just getting a little burnt on the repetitiveness.
Looking forward to the changes coming up!
Especially KGs first show as I’ve not heard that one yet.
Speaking of ones I should but have not heard, 6/3/76 it is!

6/3/76

Glad I finally got to this one, interesting show.
Not sure I’ll be able to have tunes today, but if so perhaps I’ll hit tie next night?

Oh, dug parts of 3/21/90 last night. Proper!
And the Victim was dedicated to all the haters.

Good to see

This pick of the day continues. It has truly helped me to listen to Dead concerts I would not have gone to before. 76 was another great year.

6/3/76

I know I am a day late, but I have a chance to listen to a full show, and I am going with this one. I don't recall having heard it before, and I am really liking what I see from the setlist!

I'm with Strider - super happy that this board continues to chug along! I find that it has pointed me to some excellent shows I would have otherwise missed, and it is a nice respite from some of the more cantankerous and discursive posts on the other boards.

Peace

6/3/76

Oroborous, ha!

Yes, love this Thread. Not as active as it used to be but we are still moving along.

I think the first show back in 76 is pretty good. Sound quality is a solid B++.

Obviously I think they were trying to find their way back during this month. Love these June Scarlett's.

Good start to the rest of the month.

Who has a pick for us? Are you thinking
3/21/90? I am in on that!

Deadvikes good call on 6/3/76

have it on now... found a charlie miller board that sounds good... i think these Paramount shows get passed over a lot because of previous existing copies. someone posted on archive that most of them sound like a swimming pool of molasses... bob t

Amen Otis

Did 3/21/90 last night.
I’ve been hitting 6/4/76 today.
Not as good so far as 6/3, both the audio and the music, still fun to check out and another notch off the ole proverbial list...
Yeah there was a Betty for 6/3 that sounded good and though you can tell their a little rusty,
it’s a good show with cool first versions of several songs.
These shows seem different /unique than even the next/following ones?

6/3/76 Recap

Just finished my listen, and I really enjoyed it! First show of 76, and so many new tunes! I agree that they are a little rusty, but I found a lot to love about this show, particularly the first Lazy Lightning>Supplication that totally smoked, the early 2nd set Wharf Rat, the post "drums" Must Have Been the Roses, and the Help>Slip>Frank that comes so late in the show. The Slipknot in particular grabbed my attention - really good stuff. Cap it all off with an encore of the first Wheel, and you've got a great kick-off to a great month (and an overall great year) of Grateful Dead music.

Thanks for the rec! This is my last week of summer before returning to work (school starts on Monday here in Bmore,) and I plan on hitting up as many full shows as I can while I relax one last time before the grind. Tomorrow I will plan on 3/21/90 - I already have it cued up! Rock on!

Peace

6/3

I haven't had the chance to get to this yet.. but I have listened to it before.

Can you imagine the emotions in the crowd that night? "we're getting the band back together"

3/21/90

I couldn't post on the site last night. Not sure what was going on, but everytime I tried it would log me out.

It is always interesting to listen to one of these show from Spring 1990 after you have been listening to shows from the archive. The sound quality is so good. Great show, always thought they did a great job on Hey Pocky Way. Thanks for bringing us back to Spring 1990 Oroborous.

Who has a pick for today? Jim?

Just goes to show

It is possible to have good sounding 85’s in the Vault.

Been doing 11-1-85 in the car this week and listened to post-Space this morning. I love the sound of She Belongs To Me on this release.

Hope there are more good sounding 85’s in the Vault, especially from summer.

I think that this show has already been a POTDWD, but if not, give it a play.

11/1/85

I don't remember if we did this one or not. I am a bit biased, but like this release. The next night is no slouch either. If we wanted to continue the 85 vibe, try 11/2 (or both). Phil is high in the mix, decent setlist, good show.

If you've never heard it, it's worth a spin. Add in 10/31 and 11/1 and you have a nice, congealed threefor or as we call it here at dead net a Brewer Hat Trick.

85

the fall run that year was killer, check out the Oct 26th show from the Sun Dome in Tampa, awesome Drums>space into a killer Comes a Time, with a Midnight hour encore. That was the year that they brought back the tunes Pig used to do.

Re: GOGD

I hope we haven't lost GOGD to the dark side.. (the Phish.com pick of the day thread).

Right on USam, there is something about Fall '85 (all of '85 really), all the new songs and several high energy shows to pick from. 20th Anniversary, just ten short years left.

11/1/85

Thanks for the pick on this one. Good show.

Do we have another announcement coming next week??

Pick up some Bell's Octoberfest if you can for the weekend. Enjoy!

11/2/85 for tomorrow?

I mixes right into the fold of 11/1.

It was a zoo.. the shows were, I think, quite good.. but the last time the Dead would be allowed to play in the city of Richmond.

If that's ok with the bakers dozen that seems to follow this thread.

GOGD....

....yeah. What happened to him? 11.2.85 is a good show.

SET 1
Bertha >
Greatest Story Ever Told
Dupree's Diamond Blues
C.C. Rider >
Althea
My Brother Esau
Candyman
Let It Grow
SET 2
Iko Iko
Estimated Prophet >
Uncle John's Band >
China Doll >
Drums >
Space >
Morning Dew >
Throwing Stones >
Turn On Your Lovelight
ENCORE
It's All Over Now Baby Blue

11/2/85

Back to back 85, let's do it.

8/21/68 tomorrow?

I caught a little of it on Today in GD History on SiriusXM Radio.. sounded great, recorded on 8 track reels.

Ha, Boreal

Wanted to listen to summer 85 and 8-24-85 was on my music player, so I fired it up without realizing that it was Boreal. Once Bob mentioned Truckee I knew what show it was. Actually sounds better than one would anticipate based on the negative vibe that hangs around the show.
I wasn’t there but aren’t the heat and traffic issues the major reason that this show gets a bad rap?
I’ve mountain biked in that area in the hot summer and the sun is intense up there. And not a lot of shade on the ski slope. Never skied there before but behind Boreal is Sugar Bowl which has some really nice chutes and back country terrain.

Speaking of anniversaries

8-22,23-87
With Carlos on a few songs.

Bound to cover...

11/1/85 ✔️ Forget about this one. Perhaps not the best played show of the year but fun and a great set list!
Yass uncle, most of that tours good. I only saw 2 in Chrotchfester but they were, and are near and dear!
And hey, among other things it’s got a sweet She Belongs!
When this first came out I was like “finally, some 85”, but the haters hated, and over the years I’ve wondered if DL picked a good neighborhood and street, but stopped at the wrong house? Ala Dave. But that’s just thinking out loud and splitting hairs...I like it worts and all!
11/2/85: unfortunately I haven’t gotten to this one, which is a shame cause I’ve not heard in forever. Second set was a go to tape BITD, great set, but I’m not sure I’ve ever heard the first? Need to circle back on it...
Yeah Jim that little 10/31, 11/1, and 11/2 is a nice little southern pie! Though the 29th is worth a listen too.

8/21/68 spinning as we speak. Good sheet mon! Needed a 68 fix! Perhaps VII to carry it on?
I’d like to propose 7/3/66 and the 50th bonus stuff from 7/29&30/66 sometime in the near future?
Perhaps after Conekids 8/22&23&87 rec?

Would really love it if we could do 9/4, 5, and 6/91 for the/(my) 30th anniversary?
I Remember GOGD recommended them last year and I’m not sure I’ve gotten to em yet, so would love to do so if anyone’s down? These were the humping with whales shows so I’d really like to check em out...

But first things first!
Jumped ahead on these since I don’t think I’d be able to get to em Monday or Tuesday, but wanted to keep up on the ole Doc train, with conductor Strider ; ) All aboard!
8/23/71 ✔️Felt this one was hot right outta the gate with a nice Big RR! Perhaps nothing out of the ordinary, but just seemed like a solid, good energy show? Another cool spacey TOO. Also decent helping’ of grease!
8/24/71✔️ I think I might if enjoyed the 23rd more overall? Perhaps situational...but changes is starting to creep into the mix with new tunes! Empty Pages I know I’ve heard, but perhaps not in a very long time, so felt like first time lol.
Interesting, made me think of a Brent style tune...and of course the first Brown Eyed Women, I think?
Fun how it’s so different, especially without the three chord, staccato verse start!
Some more good grease including a Hurts me Too that could easily get mistaken for E72! Tight!
Well, one more then off until October but back with almost yet another whole new band!
Really looking forward to 10/19 as I’ve never heard and there’s all those new songs.

8/21/68

Great Pick!
Another left field chestnut and another notch on the ole bedpost of shows!
Love how they pack so much into a relatively small container.
Good sounding too!

8/21

They played the Dark Star Suite yesterday on TIGDH but I only caught the beginning of the program.. if my ears and memory are correct, the Dark Star started at the beginning yet all of the copies on Archive.org suffer from a reel flip and are missing the beginning. Lemieux also said it was recorded on 8 track and went into a long dissertation about what was recorded on 8 track, then scrapped when 16 track came out, etc.

My thinking is.. it's not copies from the 8 track master that circulate and they have a more complete Multi-Track in the vault just sitting there waiting.. and begging to get a Full Norman and the Plangent Treatment.

@Oro

Ask and ye shall receive, 9-4-91 set I is in this week's installment of the Taper's Section... :-)

'91

I'm down for some '91.