Listen To The River: St. Louis '71 '72 '73 (20-CD)

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What's Inside:
7 Previously Unreleased Complete Shows On 20 Discs
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/09/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/10/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/17/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/18/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/19/72
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/29/73
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/30/73
Sourced from tapes recorded by Rex Jackson, Owsley "Bear" Stanley, and Kidd Candelario
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Restoration and Speed Correction by Plangent Processes

Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 13,000

Steamboats and BBQ, ice cream cones and Mardi Gras - are you ready to laissez les bons temps rouler with the "gateway" to the Grateful Dead? Meet us, won't you, in St. Louis for seven complete and previously unreleased Dead concerts that capture the heart of the band's affinity for the River City.

LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73 is a 20CD set featuring five shows from the Fox Theatre - December 9 and 10, 1971; October 17-19, 1972; and two from the Kiel Auditorium - October 29 and 30, 1973.

The seven shows in the collection span slightly less than two years, but they represent some of the best shows the Grateful Dead played during some of its peak tours. The music tells the story of a band evolving, changing from one sound to another seamlessly, precipitated – in large part – by significant personnel changes in the Dead’s lineup.

The two 1971 shows feature the original Grateful Dead lineup plus newcomer Keith Godchaux on piano. This version of the band would hold together for the next six months as the Dead embarked upon its Europe ’72 tour. By the time the Dead returned to the Fox Theatre less than a year later, they were without Pigpen, who’d played his final show with the Dead at the Hollywood Bowl on June 17, 1972. A year after the exceptional Fox 1972 shows, the Dead came back to St. Louis, but played the much larger Kiel Auditorium, touring behind the release of WAKE OF THE FLOOD, which came out just two weeks before.

All told, the band played 60 different songs during these shows highlighted by blazing romps through “Beat It On Down The Line” and “One More Saturday Night” and wistful takes on “Row Jimmy” and “Brokedown Palace” (whose lyrics give the collection its name). Meanwhile, the copious jamming ebbed and flowed like the mighty Mississippi River on multiple voyages through “The Other One” and “Dark Star.” Naturally, the band paid tribute to one of its favorite rock and rollers and one of St. Louis’ biggest stars by playing Chuck Berry songs at every show in the collection, including Pigpen galloping through “Run Rudolph Run.”

Each show has been restored and speed corrected using Plangent Processes with mastering by Jeffrey Norman. The collection comes in a slipcase with artwork by Liane Plant and features an 84-page hardbound book as well as other Dead surprises. To set the stage for the music, the liner notes provide several essays about the shows, including one by Sam Cutler, the band’s tour manager during that era, and another by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether, among others.

Due October 1st, LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73, is limited to 13,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net.

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March 4, 2022 - 10:18pm

#61

DeadVikes

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Adedhed68

Hey, we are hoping..... Needs to happen at some point...
March 4, 2022 - 9:00pm

#62

adedhed68

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Boxset 2022

Deadvikes, is that a definite on the next boxset? Wow that would be something
March 4, 2022 - 7:04pm

#63

DeadVikes

Joined:
October 26, 2016

Box Set

We will resuscitate him after he hears the news of the 2022 box set:

Alpine Valley, East Troy Wisconsin
Three shows from 1987
Four shows from 1988
Three shows from 1989
Video to boot.
March 4, 2022 - 6:40pm

#64

JimInMD

Joined:
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Interesting

Well, interesting, but it puts a damper on the fall 72 box. Hopefully HF isn't on suicide watch. Quick.. take some anti-depressant fungal cure caps.
March 4, 2022 - 5:50am

#65

KeithFan2112

Joined:
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One More Comment on Audio

I found this article on dead essays blog spot a while back. It talks about Bear's recording history with the Dead, with quotes from the man himself from his site:

Regarding post-jail-time:

"I came back to a crew that was totally different when I left, and the job that I had been doing was split up amongst three other people, none of whom were willing to yield the territory. I met a lot of resistance in the scene, and after you spend a couple of years locked up, your social adaptability is not very good."
And another comment on '72 in his site:
"I was having some problems with the crew, many of whom had come to work after I had gone, and resented my drive to improve things onstage and with the equipment, which I decided was obsolete for the most part. They preferred to let things stay the same - an attitude I thought was due to simple laziness. The various problems, particularly the one of getting those who did my job while I was away to back off and allow me to return to my work, eventually inspired me to design the Wall of Sound... "

*****************
Also he said about late '72:

Bear recounts a mishap at the Vanderbilt University show on 10/21/72, when Bob Matthews didn't show up: "I had to recruit some of the kids from this college to carry the stuff back. Two of them took half our PA and split. At the next show, there's no PA. I said, 'I sent it to the truck.' A roadie picked me up and threw me into a water cooler."
Apparently some recording equipment was stolen as well, which may account for the rather poor mixes of many of the shows from 10/21 to the rest of the fall tour - either that, or personal squabbles & disputes at the board! (Did anybody listen to the 11/12 mix?) Some shows have missing or incomplete SBDs (from 10/21 to 11/13, though not everything could be in circulation). There are several shows where Bear actually resorted to "audience-taping", making nice room recordings of 10/27, 10/30, and 11/13.

None of our tapes from '73/74 seem to be Bear's work - apparently after the hassles of fall '72, Bear became more a 'behind-the-scenes' equipment tech rather than the on-site sound mixer.
March 3, 2022 - 9:56am

#66

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

Jim’s correct,

But the mastering process can also change the overall sound.
This is why so many of the original CDs released after that format came out sound terrible.
It’s a stigma that has unfortunately continued even though they’ve made incredible advances in digital conversion, and stricter coherence to using original master tapes.
They were mastered poorly, especially the A/D conversion, which coupled often with not using the original master tapes, made them sound horrible. Not just CDs, DVDs etc also can be all over the place depending on transfer and what source was used. I’ve seen DVDs that looked better than Blu-ray’s because of this.

There’s a lot you can’t mess with in mastering, but there’s much that can be done too.
I think that’s a lot of why some of the newer releases sound better: Mr Jeffery has had significant time to adjust and perfect the mastering of the recordings. Like Jim says, you can’t re-eq or re-attenuate individual instruments etc on a 2 track, but you can adjust the overall eq, so perhaps that’s why one show from the same run for instance can have different “flavor” like your describing.

Multitracks, besides allowing for individual tweaks: (think Donna turned down to a normal volume with some auto tune) usually do have much more openness or spaciousness. Check out the 71 Capitol shows to see how big a difference there can be!
Oh, tape size and speed make a big difference too. The faster the speed and/or the fatter the tape, the better the frequency response and spaciousness.
March 2, 2022 - 5:29am

#67

1stshow70878

Joined:
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Thanks Jim

I thought it might be something like that. That may also explain why folks are discussing a re-release of Europe '72 or a box with some of the other shows from that tour. I've got Rockin' the Rhine and Hundred Year Hall but only on tape, so I'm all for that. I need to revisit some of my old vinyl now that I have improved my main system. I don't ever remember Europe '72 sounding this good through my old amp.
Cheers and thank you.
March 1, 2022 - 8:17pm

#68

JimInMD

Joined:
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E72 vs. 10/18/72

The obvious answer is E72 was recorded using a 16-track professional recording system inside a truck they carried with them from venue to venue and 10/18 was recorded to stereo via two-track reel to reels. So starting with a 16-track professional master tape allows one to change the mix vs. a stereo master where the mix was already condensed to stereo at the time the recording was made (so you can't change the output of the bass or any other instruments/vocals). You can't really alter anything on the two track masters except the volume and some wizardry like compression. With a multi-track you can completely change the mix and the output / location of every instrument, panning the sound, etc. The sky's the limit with a multi-track master.

There's a good bit of low-level hiss on the 10/18 recording. This was recorded by Bear. I have a sneaking suspicion these master reels were played a few times over the years. They just have this flavor of being used a bit which weakens the quality of the master. I'm speculating, I am certainly not in the know here. To me, it still sounds very good and the performance so strong, I am not complaining. I will take the win.

Sorry for the detail, I bet you already knew most of this and to be honest.. I am not a recording aficionado, so I reserve the right to be fall on my face wrong. But this is all I have. Where is One Man when you need him?
March 1, 2022 - 9:09am

#69

1stshow70878

Joined:
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Europe '72 vs. Light Into Ashes

Listened to these two on vinyl today and the sound is very different. The LIA is way more bass and mid focused and noticeably a bit lacking in treble. The LIA thread talks about the sound quality at more length. Hadn't listened to Europe '72 in many years and the sound was startlingly good on my copy from around 1975. The high end was so spacious, clear, and well defined it really surprised me. Lacking in bass by comparison but I hope they reissue that vinyl this year and balance that out. Maybe some of the recording aficionados here can clue me in as to why the totally different sound from these recordings from the same era.
Cheers!
February 22, 2022 - 7:45am

#70

bigbrownie

Joined:
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Three is the Charm

I've just completed my third go-round of this box set: once on the big JBLs, once on the house system with the HDCD player, and once with headphones on the Marantz player...a unique experience each time. Two thumbs up! For all those responsible for making "Listen to the River" happen, I say "Way to go"!
And, yes, I can't believe this is not sold put.

BTW, inside my 30 Trips book I found:
ticket: 10/27/91 Oakland
backstage pass: 6/16/93 Louisville

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What's Inside:
7 Previously Unreleased Complete Shows On 20 Discs
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/09/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/10/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/17/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/18/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/19/72
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/29/73
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/30/73
Sourced from tapes recorded by Rex Jackson, Owsley "Bear" Stanley, and Kidd Candelario
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Restoration and Speed Correction by Plangent Processes

Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 13,000

Steamboats and BBQ, ice cream cones and Mardi Gras - are you ready to laissez les bons temps rouler with the "gateway" to the Grateful Dead? Meet us, won't you, in St. Louis for seven complete and previously unreleased Dead concerts that capture the heart of the band's affinity for the River City.

LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73 is a 20CD set featuring five shows from the Fox Theatre - December 9 and 10, 1971; October 17-19, 1972; and two from the Kiel Auditorium - October 29 and 30, 1973.

The seven shows in the collection span slightly less than two years, but they represent some of the best shows the Grateful Dead played during some of its peak tours. The music tells the story of a band evolving, changing from one sound to another seamlessly, precipitated – in large part – by significant personnel changes in the Dead’s lineup.

The two 1971 shows feature the original Grateful Dead lineup plus newcomer Keith Godchaux on piano. This version of the band would hold together for the next six months as the Dead embarked upon its Europe ’72 tour. By the time the Dead returned to the Fox Theatre less than a year later, they were without Pigpen, who’d played his final show with the Dead at the Hollywood Bowl on June 17, 1972. A year after the exceptional Fox 1972 shows, the Dead came back to St. Louis, but played the much larger Kiel Auditorium, touring behind the release of WAKE OF THE FLOOD, which came out just two weeks before.

All told, the band played 60 different songs during these shows highlighted by blazing romps through “Beat It On Down The Line” and “One More Saturday Night” and wistful takes on “Row Jimmy” and “Brokedown Palace” (whose lyrics give the collection its name). Meanwhile, the copious jamming ebbed and flowed like the mighty Mississippi River on multiple voyages through “The Other One” and “Dark Star.” Naturally, the band paid tribute to one of its favorite rock and rollers and one of St. Louis’ biggest stars by playing Chuck Berry songs at every show in the collection, including Pigpen galloping through “Run Rudolph Run.”

Each show has been restored and speed corrected using Plangent Processes with mastering by Jeffrey Norman. The collection comes in a slipcase with artwork by Liane Plant and features an 84-page hardbound book as well as other Dead surprises. To set the stage for the music, the liner notes provide several essays about the shows, including one by Sam Cutler, the band’s tour manager during that era, and another by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether, among others.

Due October 1st, LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73, is limited to 13,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net.

We Have Liftoff (I Think?)

I guess it’s finally the “top of the week.” UPS just sent me a shipping notice, with no further info about what it is or when it’ll be delivered, and even though Dead.net still just shows “processing” and “not shipped,” I’m thinking this is probably the StL box. So, if past experiences are any indication, it’ll take another 3-4 days for this one to leave the warehouse, and then 4-5 days to get to me. So the unboxing ceremony is probably 7-10 days out.

Which is fine. I was really hoping it’d be here this weekend, because my brother in law, a serious Head, will be visiting, and I was looking forward to being able listen to this set on a couple of longish drives we’re going to take. Oh well. It’s not like I don’t have lots of other shows we can listen to. We will get by.

Meanwhile, checking out some Kneebody, Bill Evans Live at Hilversium, the Meters Gettin' Funkier All the Time. I will survive.

Shipping update

Right now it looks like i'm scheduled to get the box saturday evening. Man, i can't think of a better time for that to arrive. Will have some beers on ice in preparation.

Also, i know it's not everyone's cup of tea but i also just confirmation about my Phish tickets for the MSG run at the end of the year! This week is off to a good start...

ETA: Oct 12!

Just got a UPS shipping notice. It said it shipped out Oct 5th (although I just received the email a moment ago) & estimates it'll be delivered Oct 12th by 7pm.

For what it's worth, I'm in the Midwest. Well, finally seems like some movement based on other posts & my shipping notice.

Best of luck to all out there waiting for their Fox Box!

It's my cup of tea 80sfan....

....congratulations! I'm seeing them on their Halloween run in Vegas.
No shipping notice for me yet.

Box on the wayyyyyy!

Due to arrive on Saturday! Wooo Hooo!

Today I received a box from Dead.net, thought perhaps it was an early box, but noooooo, it was my Garden Bear growing mushrooms. Sooo Cute!

DIY Expanded STL Box

Just add

4-17-69 Wash. U. STL - Download Series 12
2-2-70 Fox Theater - DaP6
3-18-71 Fox Theater - 30Trips

While you wait for your delayed Box….

Check the comments on the page for the downloads.
As expected, Rhino screwed that up too, as usual.

It’s pretty dumbfounding that Rhino consistently fails at downloads. Definitely amateur hour in the Rhino IT department.

Download version comment page....

....yikes indeed! Some pretty pissed off fans there.
Oh. And the label was created today for my box. 🤞

Gimme dem ol' time CDs

Never trust a download

Shipped

Just in time for for a big weekend bbq,, I wIll have to pick up a case of Pliny the Elders to celebrate.

Re: Shipped

shipwrecked?

Billy.. I'll be by around 5:30. Pulled Chicken you say? I'll bring the Pliny, ayahuasca and some wine.

As for the digital downloads not working exactly perfect.. well.... Was anyone really surprised? They will make good Friday (give or take), my memory is not great but I don't recall them ever getting this right on the first try... , then again I could be wrong.

Either way, resist the temptation to take it out on Jebadiah. He's new.. a little bit shy but a super nice guy.

Vguy

I thought you would have some kind of priority with the box since your an important person in Vegas. I think you should send an email to rhino saying "do you know who I am?"

Also Received Shipping Email

I feel like Flounder. Oh boy, is this great!

It's only up to "created label" and not yet out for delivery, but the ball is moving upfield....

Jim/bbq

Jim, I'll be cooking ribeye steaks on the bbq, I usually crack my first beer in the morning. Cracking a beer at 9am and starting a bbq, is so much better then getting into my truck and driving off to work.

"Do you know who I am?"....

....apparently they do Carlo. Being delivered Friday apparently lol.

Anyone know how large the…

Anyone know how large the box is for the 20-CD set? Picture or dimensions? trying to figure out if it will fit in my somewhat smaller mailbox.

Hooray

I finally got a shipped email. I don't how UPS will deliver on Sunday, October 10 by 7:00 P.M. I didn't think they worked on the weekend.

Landed in Houston!

After years of getting things weeks after others (including most Dave's Picks), my box is here ahead of schedule.

I'm happy to report that she's a beaut. The shipping box is as thoughtful as always, and the actual box set packaging is stunning: the design is cool but still functional, and some very cool surprise goodies are tucked in as well.

As for size, it's like a smaller version of the Spring '90 box with the CDs loaded into the side of the box's inner shell. You guys are going to be very pleased.

Radio surprise!

Here in the Twin Cities we are fortunate to have a dedicated jazz radio station (KBEM--88.5 on your FM dial--streaming, too!), which is member-supported (yes, I donate). They have a bluegrass show and a jammy show (that DJ usually plays one Phish song each time), but mostly just play straight-up jazz. I listen a lot in the car when I am not making longer drives that warrant a 20-minute Playin' or some such treat.

Anyway, the other day I'm cruising around running errands, when suddenly, that beloved and familiar riff comes sneaking out of my car speakers: "Duh duh duh duhn . . . duh duh duh duhn . . . " Dark Star! The station was playing the new release by Dave McMurray, and at midday, nonetheless.

Yesterday's bike ride tunes: Schubert String Quartet No. 14 by the Juilliard Quartet, followed by disc two of DP 11 (9/27/72), the latter to prepare for the River box.

Also--started listening to my fourth show, 9/5/91, and the first set just kills it! I was lucky to have seen some of the summer and fall 1991 shows, as they really rocked my world. Is 1991 > 1990? :-O

p.s. Alan--glad to hear you got your box! Enjoy!

Positive reviews trickling in!....

....good to hear.

9/5/91

Great show! I was there. My 22nd Dead show I believe. The first night was great as well but that third show was epic. A very "jammy" night.

Unless it arrives a day early looks like this should arrive Saturday.

T Minus Whaaaaa?

Still no shipping notice from Dead.net, but according to UPS, my 5.6 pound bundle of joy from Gnarlywood is a-rambling its way up north, having departed La Mirada, then paused overnight in the bustling metropolis of Visalia (because who wouldn't?) and is now supposedly destined to arrive here on Saturday. (Woohoo!) Although I will be hiking most of the day out at Pt. Reyes, so it's kind of less than ideal to have that package sitting on the porch for a few hours waiting for my return (d'oh!). But package pirates haven''t been much of an issue in my neighborhood (yet), so it's probably all good.

And to think I almost went for the download this time just so I could avoid all the shipping hassles, but now it appears I will have my seedies before our downloading brethren get their full measure of FLACS. Talk about your plenty, talk about your ills. Etc.

The Race is On

Will it be a tie? Now it looks like both the T-shirt and the Fox Box are arriving at my doorstep tomorrow.
Los Lobos concert tomorrow night...what a day!

I just received a notice…

I just received a notice that the delivery for my box is delayed. Anyone else getting the same message?

Shipping Email≢ Shipped

They might not even have it yet. That's my guess.

Charges for delivery into UK

There was some discussion early in this thread about how much would be charged to get the box into the UK. I think it was IANM who calculated it would be a little over 40 GBP. I’ve just had a request to pay around 63 GBP. Anyone else over here seen that charge yet? I’d like to hope it means they’ve used an expensive shipping route and the box will turn up quickly. Currently it is still in California. Well you have to pay for the music I suppose.

Edit: Interestingly I’ve just paid the requested fee and the UPS site tells me it will be delivered today by 2pm! I doubt that is correct but I hope to be proved wrong. Time will tell.

Edit 2: UPS have changed their mind. They are still saying by the end of today, but I think they’re just playing with me.

Charges for delivery

Colin-yes, I have just paid around £63.00 to UPS, too. The last email I had from them, yesterday I think, said it would be delivered today between 10.45am and 2.45pm.
I got "Light Into Ashes" delivered by regular mail yesterday, and wasn't asked to pay anything extra, which was a nice surprise. Haven't played it yet, as I was called out to lunch unexpectedly and didnt get back till late. Today looks like the day!

Expected delivery

Was 10/10
Then 10/12
Now back to 10/10

USPS does in fact deliver packages on Sunday, they just don’t deliver letters.
USPS, UPS, FedEx, and Amazon all deliver on my street pretty much every Sunday. I attribute it to Amazon Prime, and people buying more online.

out for delivery

it's coming, it's coming!!!

Charges

Just paid UPS 868 sek( Swedish kronor), though as far as I can see, last tracking still puts it in California.

UK Charges

Colin/Dave,

UPS have a reputation for charging random costs on imports to the UK. The UK governments Import Duty calculator comes up with a cost of UKP31.67 VAT and UKP0.00 Import Duty based on the selling price of $215.97 and today's exchange rate. Add the UKP11.50 UPS Brokerage fee and you should have been charged UKP43.17 not 63.15. I have no issue paying the correct fees but a near 50% overcharge is completely unacceptable.

I've not received a demand yet but my box is still in La Mirada, CA waiting to be sent by UPS Worldwide Saver which has a 2 day delivery estimate.

The Eagle has landed

er, the fox landed in Eagle, around 4:20 yesterday...
Ripped first three, listened to first show 12/9/71. The show is just good status quo 71 (in a good way), but nothing spectacular stands out, except for the hasty ending.
The sound is awesome though! Haven’t had time to do comparative analysis with earlier 71 multi track releases, but so far, this first show sounds great!

Ok, onto 12/10/71,
ROLLING!

Dark Star Other One

I got the same message. First it was shipped, then it was delivered. Except it wasn't. Then it was backordered, and as of this am its being delivered again.

Somehow, everything i've ordered from dead.net has found its way to my front step, by hook or crook, eventually, so I hold some faith that this box will be no different.

Canadian charges

Just wondering if any other Canadians that bought this box paid the taxes, when they purchased from this website and now have to pay the taxes again when UPS is taking across the border. Both times it has said taxes not duties or brokerage etc.

tax this tax that

gimme a Fee!
gimme a dUty!
gimme a Charge!
gimme a taKx!

what's that spell?! what's that spell?! what's that spell?!

Listening to the River!

Received the box yesterday. It's a bit bigger than "get shown the light" box. It's interesting how the CDs/book are slot into the side of the inner box instead of the usual "open" style. Interesting goodies and book. Still on 12/9/71 and it sounds amazing! Individual show artwork could have been better though! Hope everyone will receive it soon!

JaysSpaced - Taxes

Yes, I received an invoice from UPS this morning in my email regarding “Import Fees”. I think the last time I was charged this was for the 30 Trips box back in 2015, it’s always hit or miss. Anyways, I paid them - $43 - but no idea on where exactly the package is, or estimated delivery date.

Quick Question

Are the Fox shows multi track or two track?

Domo arigato.

Frustrated

We ordered our Box Set the morning it was available to order, and we still haven’t gotten a shipping Email yet. Apparently when you order, it has no impact on when you get the product which seems odd when dealing with a numbered limited edition release.

Granted, this is a rather petty issue when you put it in context with the grand scheme of things, but I just wanted to get it off my chest.

Thanks for listening.

#10530 Has Arrived

and the t-shirt, too. I feel like a little kid on Christmas morning.

Anarchy in the UK

Ianm - that's annoying. I am also reconciled to paying postage/duty/customs/whatever-at the correct rate. But to have the amount I have to pay randomley increased, by so much, is not on.

I also had my nose pushed out of joint today by the email from UPS to say the box would be delivered today between specific times. I dutifully waited in - and it didn't turn up. No update of the original message either. The next time I will be in all day will be next Tuesday, so here's hoping I can connect with them at some point.

On the good side - I know its not the forum for it, but while I'm here - " Light Into Ashes" vinyl is incredible! On every level - sound, playing, material. I wonder if this is the epicenter of the whole box-the moments that the shows from 1971 are moving towards and the ones from 1973 are drawing away from. It will be great to hear this music in the context of the show-and in the context of the box as a whole.

Canadian charges

Jaysspacedhead - I indeed got hit again for the duties, taxes, etc. I just paid $49 to UPS because I don't know how import duties work and I just want this joyful noise so badly. But since ordering I moved from Alberta (where taxes don't exist) to Quebec (where tax is pretty steep), so I wasn't sure if this got factored into the equation.

Anyway, it seems to be "On the way" but I have no idea what that really means.

I’m not surprised

After briefly saying I would have the box set by the end of the day UPS changed back to saying it would arrive today between 09:45 and 12:45. It still says this despite it being 20:00 now. I really didn’t expect it to turn up since it was only shipped from California yesterday but why is the UPS info so wrong? They don’t usually deliver at the weekend but who knows. Let it arrive and let the discs work.

Delivery By The End Of The Day? (Today?)

That's what UPS-Tracking says. (Customs cleared this morning here in Germany).
It's 21:29 h. Should I wait?
G.

FOMO

Love the show! First time caller. Long time listener. I see here in dead.net that my order has shipped (status since Monday eve), but no tracking info. No shipping email. Just a little nervous that my box fell behind a filing cabinet (do they have those anymore?). But hey it wouldn't be the first time an order showed up without a shipping notice.

I am just uber jealous of those who have received theirs is all. FOMO! Guess I have to stream 12/10......again!

Duty in Canada

I have $43.99 charge from UPS as well in Ontario, Canada. Also paid tax on the original purchase.

I hear you

They have this all f'd up. The light into ashes showed up in record time pardon the pun because ups delivered it. I think it is time the dead rhino figure out a way to allow us to choose shipping method. this ups surepost is garbage and way cheaper. I would gladly pay for expedited shipping!

Should I stay or should I go?

Gratefulgerd - if the UPS message says the box will be delivered by the end of the day, it is probably better to stay in. For the next 3 or 4 days, by the looks of things !

Well well...

Got my email notification last Tuesday I believe it was and it showed up today!!! Time to start ripping...cool little extras too...

Twoswans

Hey Twoswans,

I hear you and I am in the exact same boat. Order all releases on the first day available and never receive them on time. Still waiting for a shipping notification. You can't blame the carriers if it doesn't leave the warehouse.

Hope you all enjoy the box.
I am not sure if it is multi track, but I would be surprised if it was. They typically only brought that out for specific purposes.
For those that have the box, maybe they could shed some light on it.

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