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    What's Inside:
    7 Previously Unreleased Complete Shows On 20 Discs
    Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/09/71
    Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/10/71
    Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/17/72
    Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/18/72
    Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/19/72
    Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/29/73
    Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/30/73
    Sourced from tapes recorded by Rex Jackson, Owsley "Bear" Stanley, and Kidd Candelario
    Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
    Restoration and Speed Correction by Plangent Processes
     
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 13,000

    Steamboats and BBQ, ice cream cones and Mardi Gras - are you ready to laissez les bons temps rouler with the "gateway" to the Grateful Dead? Meet us, won't you, in St. Louis for seven complete and previously unreleased Dead concerts that capture the heart of the band's affinity for the River City.
     
    LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73 is a 20CD set featuring five shows from the Fox Theatre - December 9 and 10, 1971; October 17-19, 1972; and two from the Kiel Auditorium - October 29 and 30, 1973. 
     
    The seven shows in the collection span slightly less than two years, but they represent some of the best shows the Grateful Dead played during some of its peak tours. The music tells the story of a band evolving, changing from one sound to another seamlessly, precipitated – in large part – by significant personnel changes in the Dead’s lineup.
     
    The two 1971 shows feature the original Grateful Dead lineup plus newcomer Keith Godchaux on piano. This version of the band would hold together for the next six months as the Dead embarked upon its Europe ’72 tour. By the time the Dead returned to the Fox Theatre less than a year later, they were without Pigpen, who’d played his final show with the Dead at the Hollywood Bowl on June 17, 1972. A year after the exceptional Fox 1972 shows, the Dead came back to St. Louis, but played the much larger Kiel Auditorium, touring behind the release of WAKE OF THE FLOOD, which came out just two weeks before.
     
    All told, the band played 60 different songs during these shows highlighted by blazing romps through “Beat It On Down The Line” and “One More Saturday Night” and wistful takes on “Row Jimmy” and “Brokedown Palace” (whose lyrics give the collection its name). Meanwhile, the copious jamming ebbed and flowed like the mighty Mississippi River on multiple voyages through “The Other One” and “Dark Star.” Naturally, the band paid tribute to one of its favorite rock and rollers and one of St. Louis’ biggest stars by playing Chuck Berry songs at every show in the collection, including Pigpen galloping through “Run Rudolph Run.”  
     
    Each show has been restored and speed corrected using Plangent Processes with mastering by Jeffrey Norman. The collection comes in a slipcase with artwork by Liane Plant and features an 84-page hardbound book as well as other Dead surprises. To set the stage for the music, the liner notes provide several essays about the shows, including one by Sam Cutler, the band’s tour manager during that era, and another by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether, among others. 
     
    Due October 1st, LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73, is limited to 13,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net.

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  • #31
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    More art

    One of the most stunning experiences I had going to an art gallery was when I went to see "Sunflowers" by Van Gogh a few years ago. I eventually found the room it was in, and noticed a huddle of people in front of a painting on the far side of the room. One of them moved..and there it was. It had a spotlight on it so that the yellow of the flowers shone out into the room. Amazing...but as I got closer, I realised that it didn't have a light on it at all - the light was actually coming out from within the painting. Truly extraordinary.
    It's also quite an experience going to see his work in the Rijksmuseum in Amsterdam. I just wandered in there by chance about 30 years ago. Wow.

  • #32
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    per usual!
    Thanks, lol, never knew that request page existed. Goes to show, just gotta poke around!
    Those will get utilized more now for sure…Smithers, release the hounds!

    Yeah that RFK was probably too many units for what it was? Good example of doing say one of these a year at lower unit count along with a more traditional box release at perhaps less units?
    But I liked RFK, (hell I think they’ve done a great job with most) because that stretch from summer through the next summer is prime time for moi, and it sounds great, but they certainly weren’t the best available, once again the ole he went to a great city and street, but picked the wrong house? ? Wasn’t it relatively pricey too?
    But as we’ve all been saying, there’s a whole lot of causal heads out there who might not buy anything UNLESS it was something they were at. Perhaps explains the Giants phenomenon some what?
    That was sorta my M.O. back around turn of the century: “I have more than I need so I’m only going to get shows I was at. That worked out sorta ok at first by sheer dumb luck, but I eventually realized
    A) I’m not going to get many of those any time soon, if at all, and
    B) I’m missing out on some killer shit!
    The E72 Dark Stars are what really brought me back. Didn’t get the trunk but picked up several of the Dark Star shows Ala cart.
    So started dabbling again, but mostly just wanted the music and not more stuff. Luckily or not, my cousin used to get a lot of the releases free through their business connections with GDP etc, but when that all changed with Rhino etc, they lost those relationships. So I was able for a while to get copies of stuff he had that I wanted.
    But then I started getting back into it, hanging with you junkies etc lol, and next thing you know I’m a “collector”, just the thing I was trying to avoid lol.
    So of course the down side of only getting copies is all the great collection stuff I missed out on!
    The biggest regrets were the FW box and Winterland 73. The FW I just wasn’t very in dead land at the time and because of the repetitive set lists figured “oh hell, I have live dead already” idiot!
    Luckily I have the mini version and you know who here tightened me up with copies of the box, so at least I have the music!
    The Winterland 73, being fall 73, which even then was one of the tours I had huge interest in, I contemplated getting it, and man, wasn’t it really cheap considering, but I cheap skated out and have been regretting it ever since!
    Some of the others I regret only as a “collector” now, though I should have grabbed that summer 78, wasn’t that another bargain box?

    So yeah Daverock, the scene was relatively small until later. When I started going in late seventies there were tour heads, but not anything like what would come. I think the whole multi show run factor contributed to this. It was now much easier to just plan on a three show run or two, especially day on weekends, then to catch 5 or 6 shows, one stop at a time up and down I 90 etc.
    Now I know old timers talk of how it changed throughout the seventies, especially that huge influx of kids like me in the mid and late seventies, but I don’t think it was near as dramatic as what we saw from late seventies up too 87 when it exploded, perhaps leveled off a bit, but continued at a steady pace that unfortunately just got too big to support it properly. Fame, the kiss of death…

    ART: not a active art participant, but sometimes you get shown the light!
    We had a great Albright Knox gallery back in the tundra, and on family vaca to Europe in late seventies, went to tge Louvre etc. Don’t recall a lot of specifics, Mono Lisa etc? But it definitely impacted my thick adolescent Beavis and Butthead dumb American skull. That whole trip would of been much more awesome if I’d only been older.
    That Hopper work is cool. I’ve seen that corner diner one but wouldn’t say I was familiar. Will have to burn a fat one and check him out. Yasss great light etc. And yes, I can only imagine how much more sharp and vivid his work would be live!
    Good sheet Mon,
    Party on Wayne!

  • #33
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    DaveRock - Awesome idea with the email to all the folks on the mailing list. Something that perhaps itemizes what is in the vaults (no use clamouring for reels that don’t exist), and survey to see what is in high demand. I know on the Neil Young site, as an example, he has a “Letters” column where he states he answers ALL the letters himself (I’ve sent a few, and always get a reply), and the bulk of requests are folks asking him to release this show, or this tour, etc, and he tells you if the request is even doable. I don’t expect the Core Four to answer Dead Head mail, but a quick email survey is interesting. Maybe it is as easy as Ice Cream Kid says, and we just hit up the request thread, but it doesn’t tell us what tapes are in the vault, and what condition, etc.

    PS - Dave, you are right about seeing the art “in person”, but of course, work of say a DaVinci is so limited, so rare, and will not ever tour, that it would be so hard to see in person, save visiting Paris or Venice. But, should a major show make the rounds, like Picasso, or Diego Rivera/Frida Khalo, I’ve made a point to see it, and you are right - seeing a picture of these works does not do them justice! There is something about seeing The One And Only of something, knowing the artist worked on this piece. I’ll paraphrase Mr Ones al a “Music is the best”: “Art - and sports - are a close second!”

  • #34
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    Crmcnkd - I hadn't noticed that section asking us to make recommendations, so thanks for pointing that out. Maybe, though, the only people likely to fill that out are the people who come on here-all the old faces-and we know what they (we, me) will say in advance. I like the idea of reaching people who may not come on here - maybe an email like we get telling us what is coming out- but asking us what we would like to see coming out instead. The key is, it has to be "them" wanting a survey - as much, if not more, than "us" wanting to fill one in.

    Oro - thinking of casual fans of different eras, it reminds me of the fact that Deadheads didn't actually exist in the 1960s. I can't imagine early fans travelling around the country to see them. I guess it started with the invite to "Deadfreaks" on "Skull and Roses", but I would think it took several years before the travelling circus developed.

    It's interesting watching a documentary on late 60's San Francisco bands called "Go Ride The Music-West Pole". The main bands on this are Jefferson Airplane and Quicksilver Messenger Service - but at one point an interviewer asks people queuing up outside a concert hall, who their favourite bands are. I was expecting them to say "The Dead" automatically-but they don't. They are mentioned but they were clearly perceived at that time as just being another band, along with the two mentioned, Steve Miller, Janis etc.

    Mike - one of the great things about going to art galleries is how much more alive the originals are compared to the prints and posters you can see anywhere. I would say that going to an art gallery to look at paintings is a bit like going out to hear live music. If you go to any gallery, look at the originals, and then go in the gift shop and look at a book reproducing the originals you have just seen, the difference between the two is shocking.

  • #35
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    Don’t forget that several people, including myself, have previously told stories about talking to other deadheads who are completely clueless or disinterested in the official releases.

    The RFK Box is 15,000 copies and not sold out, although the banner says “less than 750 left”.
    My Boxes are packed away so I can’t check what the production numbers are, but 15,000 seems to be the limit except for a few releases that need an AME.
    I think that the last few Boxes were in the 10,000-12,000 range.

    Dave’s Picks can sell 25,000 due to people buying more than one subscription and resellers.
    And if you subscribe early bird you get 13 or 14 CD’s for $100, which is a pretty good deal.

    For those wanting to take a survey, there is a page on this site called ‘Requests - Box Sets’.
    I posted on it this morning, so use the ‘recent posts’ button to get to it, or use the search box.

  • #36
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    I am enjoying the discussion, because I’m hoping the marketing folks, or even the interns working at Rhino, see that this is a very passionate group of dedicated fans. Oro, I really think you have made some great points, and it is hard to please everyone (personally I have never been a hardcore 60s Dead fan, because that was before they came along with jewels like Wake of The Flood, Mars Hotel, etc, and all the outstanding concert material those albums brought forth), but so much work goes into the sourcing and mixing of the music in these boxes, and the art work, and the history to the scene happening at the time, that most, if not all, are home runs.
    Oro, you definitely hit the mark on many points, as did others, but collectively, as a group of fans, our mantra is “Keep ‘Em Coming!”

    DR - I love a wide range of art, and even doodle a bit myself, but Hopper is definitely an artist I have held in the highest esteem, for his amazing use of light and open space to paradoxically create figures of loneliness and solitude. If I can ever get my butt to NYC, the Whitney Museum of American Art is where I plan to sleep; the guy was an American master, and really nice to hear you too see his immense talent.

    Last listen - McLaughlin/Corea - Five Peace Band Live
    On Deck - Ry Cooder - The UFO Has Landed

  • #37
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    Great Discussion

    I think I fall into the category y'all are citing here. Not quite into it as much as the die-hards but wanting it all anyway. The LTTR box was more money than I was willing to put out at the time so I chose the LIA vinyl instead. A trade off decided by my having already pre-ordered Dave's #1 vinyl and simply wanting to get more vinyl. Interestingly, all the fantastic comments have me alternately regretting my choice and being satisfied with a taste of '72. DR said recently the chunk I have on Light Into Ashes is the crux of the biscuit of the box so today I feel satisfied. My collecting took a hiatus around the time the big Europe '72 trunk came out but kindly folks here are helping me fill that void. Thanks to all for keeping the fire alive. It's so nice to have reliable information from everyone here in our disinformation shrouded world.
    Cheers all!

  • #38
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    Mike, the 60s vibe, that’s a good example of what I’m saying. To “US”, the hardcore lunatics at deadnet, there appears to be an overwhelming unified consensus demanding a 60s box, but perhaps if you did a survey like DR suggests, our sample might be quite small comparatively? Just talking out me arse, but worth a thought?
    You’d think they’d be doing marketing , but maybe not? Maybe they have been so fortunate to have enough of a loyal, reliable, bankable demand that they could just go with whatever they felt was good?

    Personally, I think it’s good when things don’t sell out immediately. Gives some folks like P.T. etc a chance to decide or what not if they want to buy it. Or maybe you didn’t hear about it right a way, and as the bastard Murphy would have it, your busted after getting yet another of your kids braces, while the other kid smashed the car, and your washing machine broke. Like “Whaaaa???, you want $300 tomorrow morning, Dooaahh”
    But these are singular micro type scenarios and we’re talking macro level.
    Maybe DR is right and the nostalgia factor is bigger then I think, in that logistically, because of age, there are more casual fans from the later years than the early ones. Hell statistically, comparatively there weren’t that many causal fans in the early years. Let’s face it, for good or for ill, as time advanced there were way more causal “lets just go party and check it out folks” going to shows.
    So maybe that’s part of it, when/if something that this larger population feels more akin to comes round, their more likely to buy it, then yet another older moldy from a time they don’t know or care about because they’ve never been in that deep?
    I guess it’s probably a perfect storm of all the things we’ve been discussing? All these factors add up and the amount of units we’re talking about isn’t really that large, so…
    But!….that’s all the more reason to deliver more, but smaller batches of certain eras!

    Though I understand why a Giants type box would sell so fast, I still, do not understand fully how this box, by now, has not? Shifting market demographics and saturation is my guess though?
    Just goes to show…

  • #39
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    ThatMike - my eyes lit up when you mentioned Edward Hopper. I really like his work too. About 20 years ago there was great exhibition on in London, and it was a real treat to be able to go from room to room and get drawn into his world. You can see his influence sometimes in films -"Deep Red" by Dario Argento features a scene that is clearly modelled on "The Nighthawks". And although I can't think of specific examples at the moment, Alfred Hitchcock and David Lynch feature scenes in some of their films that look to me to have been influenced by Hopper's way of seeing things.

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    format? sound quality? putting great shows with good shows?

    IMO there seems to be lots of reasons why this has not sold out. I did not buy it and I buy them all. After the so so patch jobs on the PNW box which I did not care for, I passed on this box. These are all good shows, with great shows mixed in. Call me a snob but I want all great shows with no cuts or patches. If that's not possible then I will just keep what I got from the archive or from etree, why spend that kind of scratch for shows I already have that only sound a bit better?
    The format could be the reason, some only want from the era they were a part of, mostly 80's from what I gather here. I like the progression of the band from psychedelic juggernaut to what they became, but not everyone's cup of tea.
    Perhaps it's the ploy of putting out most requested shows with shows that are not up to the great show that they are centered around? The original great box was a tough act to follow, seeings how the E72 tour was their best tour and it was the first one released with a massive 73 discs. With that great price. How to follow that? It's been what tptb have been asking themselves since.
    The spring 90 boxes are a good example of that also, a great tour with consistently great shows released at a great price, which sold out quickly.
    But what do I know? just the ramblings of an old deadhead on the first day of Spring.

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What's Inside:
7 Previously Unreleased Complete Shows On 20 Discs
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/09/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/10/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/17/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/18/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/19/72
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/29/73
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/30/73
Sourced from tapes recorded by Rex Jackson, Owsley "Bear" Stanley, and Kidd Candelario
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Restoration and Speed Correction by Plangent Processes
 
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 13,000

Steamboats and BBQ, ice cream cones and Mardi Gras - are you ready to laissez les bons temps rouler with the "gateway" to the Grateful Dead? Meet us, won't you, in St. Louis for seven complete and previously unreleased Dead concerts that capture the heart of the band's affinity for the River City.
 
LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73 is a 20CD set featuring five shows from the Fox Theatre - December 9 and 10, 1971; October 17-19, 1972; and two from the Kiel Auditorium - October 29 and 30, 1973. 
 
The seven shows in the collection span slightly less than two years, but they represent some of the best shows the Grateful Dead played during some of its peak tours. The music tells the story of a band evolving, changing from one sound to another seamlessly, precipitated – in large part – by significant personnel changes in the Dead’s lineup.
 
The two 1971 shows feature the original Grateful Dead lineup plus newcomer Keith Godchaux on piano. This version of the band would hold together for the next six months as the Dead embarked upon its Europe ’72 tour. By the time the Dead returned to the Fox Theatre less than a year later, they were without Pigpen, who’d played his final show with the Dead at the Hollywood Bowl on June 17, 1972. A year after the exceptional Fox 1972 shows, the Dead came back to St. Louis, but played the much larger Kiel Auditorium, touring behind the release of WAKE OF THE FLOOD, which came out just two weeks before.
 
All told, the band played 60 different songs during these shows highlighted by blazing romps through “Beat It On Down The Line” and “One More Saturday Night” and wistful takes on “Row Jimmy” and “Brokedown Palace” (whose lyrics give the collection its name). Meanwhile, the copious jamming ebbed and flowed like the mighty Mississippi River on multiple voyages through “The Other One” and “Dark Star.” Naturally, the band paid tribute to one of its favorite rock and rollers and one of St. Louis’ biggest stars by playing Chuck Berry songs at every show in the collection, including Pigpen galloping through “Run Rudolph Run.”  
 
Each show has been restored and speed corrected using Plangent Processes with mastering by Jeffrey Norman. The collection comes in a slipcase with artwork by Liane Plant and features an 84-page hardbound book as well as other Dead surprises. To set the stage for the music, the liner notes provide several essays about the shows, including one by Sam Cutler, the band’s tour manager during that era, and another by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether, among others. 
 
Due October 1st, LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73, is limited to 13,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net.

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Sun, 10/10/2021 - 11:20

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I'm a fan of the more modestly sized June 76 and July 78 boxes, and not really the larger sized Spring 90's or E72. Just personal taste I suppose. The music's more important than the goodies/ephemera etc. IMHO. YMMV.

-edit- No box yet here, either. Just going off the reports I'm reading...

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sun, 10/10/2021 - 12:44

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Yes HF I was thinking the same thing about the 71 shows: they sound a lot like E72!
I had to check a couple times to make sure I had the right disc lol.
Keithfan might get stumped guessing at his family BBQs lol.

Have mostly heard the first five shows so far. (On 10/19 now)
Overall, Great audio, though there are a few splices. Only the SOTOTW one was tough...lots of repeats, otherwise music solid all around, but perhaps not a lot of “extraordinary” moments, except disc 2 from 10/18/72.
So far, to this DS freak, that’s worth the price alone! Really looking forward to the 73s and specifically disc 20!

BOXES/Space: yep, slightly smaller than a LP..like the small pizza box analogy!
I don’t think it’s tooooo big, but agree there is a lot of extra space...
Agree with most that GIANTS, 76 etc are just right size, though I really love the art etc of the PNW box as I love the PNW native art in general. Saw a great exhibit of it at SAM in 2013.
Agree I wouldn’t want em all that big though...

Oh ps: Does Keith not sound as good or prominent in the mix as you’ve ever heard, especially the 71s which sound like he’s playing the upright and not a grand..

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Submitted by treser62 on Sun, 10/10/2021 - 12:56

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Just got my set in, but I can't find the serial number. Is it hidden somewhere? Am I missing something? Can anyone tell me where it is located? Any help is appreciated.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sun, 10/10/2021 - 12:59

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Glad/hope you got/get yours

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Sun, 10/10/2021 - 13:24

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I had to look around myself.

Daverock, you hit on a real key insight into eras of any kind. Like the '60s began ~ 1964 with the Beatles, post JFK, etc. The entire "decades" thing doesn't really hold up upon examination.

Other folks have pointed out that GD eras don't neatly fit into years and, of course, that's right. The band's eras really map to specific tours, the introduction of new players or new songs or new instruments or effects. Here's an idea: what if someone actually mapped out all the tours by dates, then noted the intro of new players, new songs, new instruments so one could grasp the overlays? Then there's the elusive time/age factor as teenagers (Bobby at least) or very young men whip past 30, then 40, then 50, and Bobby that focker is hitting his 70s and still going, just sans the bevy of groupies these days (I assume).

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 10/10/2021 - 14:08

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....we need the number!!
And yes. Yes it is. Devoting mucho time to it. Might call in sick tomorrow.
The second disc of the first '72 show was so good, I played it twice.
Cumberland. You know me.
Playin'. A monster.
Casey Jones. Check.
GSET. Whoo-hoo!!!
Don't Ease. Bouncy.
Mexicali. Reprieve.
Black Peter. Sublime.
Bobby McGee. Perfect slot selection.
Bertha. No comment required.
I love this particular disc. Granted. I'm biased as hell regarding Cumberland.
But wait, there's more!!

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Submitted by Angry Jack Straw on Sun, 10/10/2021 - 14:21

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Got two loads of wood delivered today. Dumped, as always, in the road right in front of the house. I spent all afternoon loading and stacking the wood in the garage. Axe in hand, chopping the larger cuts into a more manageable size. I was called foolish for installing a wood burning fireplace. Too much work. Too dirty. Too smelly. Years later all the neighbors look on with envy and ask to borrow wood for their newly installed fire pits. Don’t you just flip a switch or something I always reply.

I come inside after finishing and my daughter hands me the box. Sunday delivery is quite nice. Can’t wait to grab a beer and fire it up. “Mom’s napping.”

So, hopefully tonight I can listen.

First comment. As others have pointed out. The box is way too big. A ton of unused space. And very difficult to remove a single show. They all slide out. How about adding a few more millimeters to make access to the discs easier. You clearly had the extra space.

Time for a Magic Hat #9 and nice little fire.

Happy listening to those who have their copies.

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Sun, 10/10/2021 - 14:34

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also, AJS. Picked up one pickup load yesterday, about 800 lbs stacked into the truck, then 800 lbs stacked in various locations around the perimeter of the house. On a cold, dark winter night, snow swirling, I'll pop a little psylocibin, pour a whiskey, grab a guitar and dream on the fire. Yeah, fall is the best as the cooler temps push you to race to get ready for the snow and darkness. Beautiful! And perfect for listening to loud music as doors and windows are closed.

Paz, brothers.

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Submitted by dmcvt on Sun, 10/10/2021 - 15:38

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Burning wood... local product, have depended on it for forty years, see behind those sunflowers. Stacked a fresh load of beech, maple and ash just a few minutes ago. PITB in some ways, but there's nothing like a wood fire. I cook on the stove, heat water, its the iron beast magnet altar in winter. While awaiting the new box, went to my first live music indoors since February 2020 this afternoon. Host and composer Bill Cole presented a new work, Margaret and Katie... he taught at Amherst and Dartmouth, chaired the department of music, retired a few years ago. Tomorrow is his 84th birthday. Held at a small recital hall at Dartmouth (photo ID, vax certificate, student escorts), limited to forty by invitation, plus a few students, video will be posted to YT after some digital mastering. Seven musicians, everything from tuba, marimba, sax, flute, cornet, conch shell, kora, percussion, various reeds and didgeridoo. As Dartmouth was founded 1769 to educate and Christianize Native Americans, a few moments of quiet reflection on that upside down mistake this eve of Indigenous Peoples Day.

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Submitted by Crow Told Me on Sun, 10/10/2021 - 18:43

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Came home yesterday after hiking Pt Reyes to find the StL box ensconced behind the ˜petunias and safe from porch pirates. Woohoo! That's 8 days after the official release date, for everybody keeping score at home, so despite all the rigamarole about delays, the box actually made its way to me just about exactly as fast as the more recent DaPs have.

The packaging is lovely. Have only had time to audition two random discs, and they sounded great on every level. It's going to take a good long while to explore all 20 discs, but I'll be loving every minute of it.

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Submitted by Colin Gould on Mon, 10/11/2021 - 04:29

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Mine has just been delivered in the UK. Obviously, I should have more faith in UPS.

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Submitted by frankparry on Mon, 10/11/2021 - 04:59

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While waiting for my UPS delivery I’ve been reading the latest issue of Uncut. It has a short article and interview with the sax player Charles Lloyd whose music began with playing with the blues greats like Howlin’ Wolf and later hung out with the Grateful Dead who apparently loved his music. For those of us in Blighty he has a show on November 20 as part of the London Jazz Festival at the Barbican.

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Submitted by Dogon on Mon, 10/11/2021 - 05:02

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Mine has just arrived in Sweden, plaudits to Deadnet for finally using a carrier which gets our stuff to us in a timely manner, for once we in the first world dont have to wait around for 6 or more weeks!
Daverock/Simonrob/ Gratefulgerd, I suppose you now also got yours, enjoy!

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Submitted by Daysbetween on Mon, 10/11/2021 - 05:27

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3847 just arrived here in Scotland. Got hit with £63.15 in charges/taxes. Like others have said the box is too big and you can’t get a show out without them all falling out. I prefer smaller boxes. Weird shaped book but mine is in perfect condition. Now for a mammoth listening session.

Number 9426 also arrived in Scotland but with nothing to pay!!

Very nice package in perfect condition and some nice extras hidden away.

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Submitted by frankparry on Mon, 10/11/2021 - 06:21

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Mine’s just arrived but cannot find the number!

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Submitted by Daysbetween on Mon, 10/11/2021 - 06:23

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It’s on the back cover of the book.

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Submitted by sjbutler on Mon, 10/11/2021 - 06:27

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My box arrived Saturday and overall it is a drop dead gorgeous box. However, the lower right corner of the slipcase for 12/30/73 was mangled, as though someone attempted to shove it in, failed and bent it all up, and then just said f*** it and pushed it back in. There were some significant scratches on the disc that went into that part of the slipcase. Almost *half* of the 20 discs had at least a few hairline scratches on them. I get the environmentally friendly aspect of them, but I despise those cardboard cases.

I’ve sent an email to Customer Service and hopefully they can make it right. They were good about providing a replacement for DaP 39, which also had a bunch of scratches on one of the discs, which was surprising since those are at least in plastic trays. Seriously, does Rhino hire chimps to pack and run QC on their products?

“Karen” rant over. Back to the music!

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Submitted by billy the kidd on Mon, 10/11/2021 - 06:48

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FrankParry, Charles Lloyd played with the Dead on 8/3/69 at the Family Dog, he plays on a great version of Dark Star. You probably already knew that. I see he plays on the same gig as the Dead on 10/1/67 at the Greek Theatre. I didn't know that he played with Howlin Wolf , but I don't know a Lot of things, Howlin Wolf is one of my favorites.

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Submitted by frankparry on Mon, 10/11/2021 - 07:20

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Just listening to the last cd from 73 and half way through Eyes it looks like there’s a giant patch for about twenty seconds. Doesn’t spoil the enjoyment at all though - great version and a truly out there version of Dark Star.

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Submitted by gratefulgerd on Mon, 10/11/2021 - 07:51

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mine has arrived about an hour ago. UPS did a good job. Very reliable tracking from A to Z. Nothing out of control!
Well, I think it's gonna be a long night.
Proudfoot probably would say: Es wird eine lange Nacht.
I'm excited.
Enjoy yours
G.

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Submitted by Mr. Ones on Mon, 10/11/2021 - 09:06

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It’s great to hear our European Head friends are getting their boxes so quickly. I would be bummed mine hasn’t shown yet, but I have SO MUCH freakin’ stuff to play before the box arrives. I’d be a fool to complain.
Listening to, among many, Bill Evans, Black Sabbath(Technical Ecstasy), Elvis Costello, and Dave’s picks from ‘73 shows.
I was informed I’d have my box on the 9th, 10th, 11th, and now 12th. Pretty sure it WILL arrive eventually.
No matter……Music Is The Best!!

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Submitted by bigbrownie on Mon, 10/11/2021 - 09:11

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is alive and well and is playing in Santa Barbara this Saturday.

Just got started with the box. First up: disc one from Kiel Aud. 10/29/73.

So far, so good.

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Submitted by SteveGold425 on Mon, 10/11/2021 - 09:31

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Im not sur what to say to those stuck on the packaging. I just finished listening to 7 flawless, incredibly well recorded shows, flipping through a solid hardcover booklet, and enjoying some pretty cool extra treats. Not once during all the times Im going to replay these amazing shows am I going to be thinking "But shoot - if only they utilized that extra space deeper into the box or added ribbon to get the discs out quicker". I feel for you folks stuck on that stuff. I really do. Youre seeing a lot of stem and tripping on it, but there is a big bud sitting there to enjoy.

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Submitted by RiRiIII on Mon, 10/11/2021 - 09:33

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For this box only, Dead.net changed unilaterally the shipping from "UPS Mail Innovations Priority" (UPS>USPS>local post) to "UPS Worldwide Saver. "
At least for me in Greece, this means that it will not be delivered to me by the local Greek Post (low customs clearance fee = 20 EUR), but by UPS Greece (80 EUR = 60 EUR UPS fee plus 20 EUR UPS handling).

Dead.net please use only UPS Innovations like all the time previously. Thank you.

Best wishes,

Alex

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Submitted by Slow Dog Noodle on Mon, 10/11/2021 - 09:48

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In time for a 5 hour White Sox game last night. Perfect listening for a wild game. I love the box, art, extras and most importantly so far, the music!

For those who don't like the box, here's an idea. Throw it out. The slip cases didn't come with an umbilical cord. Amazing that people complain about this. Its called a box(ed) set. It comes in a box. If it makes your action figures look small, that's ok.

...If ya don't state your preferences ain't nothing gonna change. Space counts. At least for me.

Highly looking forward to my box. Still hangin' out near Bong.

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Submitted by daverock on Mon, 10/11/2021 - 10:47

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I'm well pleased with it, too. I like the box - sturdy and well made-it has gravitas befitting the music inside it. Considering it holds 20 cds, it doesn't seem that big to me, either. The last box I bought- "The Starday Custom Series" is bigger, and only holds 10cds. Though it does have a king sized book, too.

Anyway - I like the sound on the first one and a half cds. Rock steady. Also good that "Playing" crops up no less than 5 times, twice in 71 and 72 and once in 73, so its development can be appreciated across the years, if you have the mind. "The Other One" also features in each of the three years. I liked hearing Pigpen sing the Chuck Berry number instead of Bob, too.
The book looks a bit weird-I thought the pages were going to come tumbling out when I first opened it-but it has remained intact. Careful handling needed, I would say.
But overall- great stuff!
Mr Ones-sorry your's hasn't pitched up yet. It sounds like you have plenty to be going on with !

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Submitted by Crow Told Me on Mon, 10/11/2021 - 11:02

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If I was picky about this kind of thing, I would probably a little miffed that the corner of my StL is arrived a little smooshed in. It's not a big deal, but just for example, if I ever wanted to sell it, I couldn't list it as mint condition.

Fortunately, I'm not planning to sell it. And though I've only had time to test 3 discs so far, I haven't have any problems with the CDs so far, which is the most important thing.

As for the packaging? It looks fantastic, just a work of art to behold. But it's not super practical: it takes up a lot of space, even for a 20-CD set, and there's no easy way to see which shows are which or what songs are on a given CD without actually pulling the CD's out of the case. Which isn't super easy, either.

But that's nit picking, because the MUSIC is fucking great.

I'm so glad we had this time together, just to share a laugh and sing a song.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Mon, 10/11/2021 - 12:11

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Harvey Korman
Tim Conway
Vicky Lawrence
and
Owsley Stanley as the BBBBBBBEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAVVVVVVVEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

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Submitted by proudfoot on Mon, 10/11/2021 - 12:12

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we Deadheads are indeed a picky lot.

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Mon, 10/11/2021 - 12:27

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Right on, SteveGold, I'm tossing the box and shelving the shows in my chronological shelf.

And Proudfoot, dooood, I'll have whatever you're having!

Tonight: more from the new box, with a dash of Tequila and Indica and maybe a Guinness....

Enjoy, all!

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Submitted by FiveBranch on Mon, 10/11/2021 - 12:52

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While I would prefer a size that can fit into a standard bookcase, like June ’76 or July ’78, what we have displays the artwork beautifully. And is exceptional. My only qualm is leaving the slipcases generic. I think it was likely assumed most of us will rip the discs and then rarely will they see the light of day again. With that said, my bet would be that the box was designed for this time when vinyl reins for physical product. In some way it mirrors the original multi LP box sets, where the front opens for a tray that houses the records.

Sound wise, an earlier comment mentioned how three dimensional these releases get. My thoughts exactly when spot checking the discs yesterday. I actually listened to some of the Archive recordings prior to purchasing. By contrast quite proper. Something is done to really bring a stage-presence to the sound. A quality that isn’t there without the Norman magic. Very comfortable to settle into and let the band do their thing. Just add popcorn.

Looking forward to working through these shows in their entirety! Is it Thursday yet????

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Submitted by caniol on Mon, 10/11/2021 - 13:28

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I received Box Set #3840 on Saturday afternoon. I inspected the box, book and CDs - all are in good shape! Sunday I spent some time ripping the 20 CDs. I'm on a few days of vacation, so I will spend the next few listening to the shows in their entirety after I load them on my iPod. I'm pretty stoked!

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Submitted by SPACEBROTHER on Mon, 10/11/2021 - 13:58

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I wonder how many of these releases were recorded on Ramrod's reel to reel that's up for auction? Just browsed the whole listings. So much history. Jerry's Starfire Guild is a big ticket item. His Mutton is listed as well. My attention is drawn towards Jerry's Macintosh power amp though. Some high end vintage gear. Anybody got an extra million laying around?

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Submitted by WharfratWhitey on Mon, 10/11/2021 - 14:46

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9454 has landed and I really like what I see. So if I’m gone for awhile, well you know…

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