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    What's Inside:
    7 Previously Unreleased Complete Shows On 20 Discs
    Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/09/71
    Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/10/71
    Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/17/72
    Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/18/72
    Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/19/72
    Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/29/73
    Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/30/73
    Sourced from tapes recorded by Rex Jackson, Owsley "Bear" Stanley, and Kidd Candelario
    Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
    Restoration and Speed Correction by Plangent Processes
     
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 13,000

    Steamboats and BBQ, ice cream cones and Mardi Gras - are you ready to laissez les bons temps rouler with the "gateway" to the Grateful Dead? Meet us, won't you, in St. Louis for seven complete and previously unreleased Dead concerts that capture the heart of the band's affinity for the River City.
     
    LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73 is a 20CD set featuring five shows from the Fox Theatre - December 9 and 10, 1971; October 17-19, 1972; and two from the Kiel Auditorium - October 29 and 30, 1973. 
     
    The seven shows in the collection span slightly less than two years, but they represent some of the best shows the Grateful Dead played during some of its peak tours. The music tells the story of a band evolving, changing from one sound to another seamlessly, precipitated – in large part – by significant personnel changes in the Dead’s lineup.
     
    The two 1971 shows feature the original Grateful Dead lineup plus newcomer Keith Godchaux on piano. This version of the band would hold together for the next six months as the Dead embarked upon its Europe ’72 tour. By the time the Dead returned to the Fox Theatre less than a year later, they were without Pigpen, who’d played his final show with the Dead at the Hollywood Bowl on June 17, 1972. A year after the exceptional Fox 1972 shows, the Dead came back to St. Louis, but played the much larger Kiel Auditorium, touring behind the release of WAKE OF THE FLOOD, which came out just two weeks before.
     
    All told, the band played 60 different songs during these shows highlighted by blazing romps through “Beat It On Down The Line” and “One More Saturday Night” and wistful takes on “Row Jimmy” and “Brokedown Palace” (whose lyrics give the collection its name). Meanwhile, the copious jamming ebbed and flowed like the mighty Mississippi River on multiple voyages through “The Other One” and “Dark Star.” Naturally, the band paid tribute to one of its favorite rock and rollers and one of St. Louis’ biggest stars by playing Chuck Berry songs at every show in the collection, including Pigpen galloping through “Run Rudolph Run.”  
     
    Each show has been restored and speed corrected using Plangent Processes with mastering by Jeffrey Norman. The collection comes in a slipcase with artwork by Liane Plant and features an 84-page hardbound book as well as other Dead surprises. To set the stage for the music, the liner notes provide several essays about the shows, including one by Sam Cutler, the band’s tour manager during that era, and another by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether, among others. 
     
    Due October 1st, LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73, is limited to 13,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net.

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  • icecrmcnkd
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    I listened to DP2 extensively in the 90’s. Set 2 is smoking and the release sounded so much better than the cassettes I was collecting at the time.

    But, I doubt that the quality of Set 2 would be diminished if Set 1 was included in the release. Full shows should be released when possible, and everyone will have the option of putting what CD’s they want into their CD player.

    I also don’t believe that Dave and Rhino have a policy that incomplete shows won’t get released. Everything worthwhile will come out eventually. But, once again, Dave and Rhino have 30 years of material to work with and shouldn’t have to cater to a single group that demands that they get all the attention (that includes pre-hiatus, post-hiatus, Donna-in, Donna-out, Brent, heroin-Jerry, etc., etc.).

    I am thankful and Grateful that these recordings exist and that they are being polished up and released. Keep them coming Dave and Rhino, from all years so that an accurate representation of the entire career of the Greatest Band In The Universe is available.

  • Oroborous
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    Dicks/partials

    I don’t mind some of the partials.
    Vol 14 comes to mind.
    As long as the songs are sorta in order.
    Don’t like when they totally do Boroughs like cut ups.
    Ladies and Gentlemen for example. Doesn’t have the same flow.

    EDIT: looking forward to taking vol 2 for a ride, it’s been awhile.

  • Dennis
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    Unk Sam & Johnny

    As I said I'm glad I got the Johnny cd (also the fucking album :-) )

    But was shocked at the recording. The recordings of San Quentin and Folsom are FAR superior. Of course they were set up to make a record so the recording should be top notch,,,, right? :-) It was of course a "Columbia Stereo 360" album!

    Like most "country" the songs are SHORT! 28 Songs on this cd.

    But if you like the man in black, get it. I like supporting the Owsley recordings.

    On the Johnny front... I remember when Ice-T was having trouble with Body Count's Cop Killer and people were whining about the violence in rap. He said nobody complained when Johnny Cash sang, "I shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die".

    Then in Cocaine Blues Johnny sings.....

    99 years underneath that ground
    I can't forget the day I shot that bad bitch down

    Life's funny!

    Update on Johnny - ok my 3rd time thru. I'm getting use to the sound, I think maybe it was a mono recording(?) Not as muddy as first blush listen. But the distance between vocals and drums is weird. Like Johnny was standing on left side of stage at the edge and one guy with a drum kit was in the far rear right side. Odd imaging.

    Glad I got!

  • JimInMD
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    Dicks Picks 2

    10/31/71 - See Doc's review, this one contains one of our favorite Dark Stars. My first listen was followed with a Wow and am immediate relisten.

    Didn't I hear the reels for the first set were not in the vault? I thought they did not exist, but they seem to be represented on the archive. I do think we have a case for shows with missing reels to make their way into Dave's Picks under the umbrella of Full Show releases. They sort of blew through this barrier when they released fifth reel of 2/27/77 at the end of Dave's Picks Vol. 29

    February 27, 1977 – Robertson Gym, University Of California, Santa Barbara, California:
    "Morning Dew" (Bonnie Dobson, Tim Rose) – 13:58
    "Sugar Magnolia" (Weir, Hunter) – 9:45
    "Johnny B. Goode" (Chuck Berry) – 4:23

    Dick's Picks 2 - an instant classic. A great release. Happy Halloween all.. trip or treat?

  • billy the kidd
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    Daverock/partial show releases

    Daverock, once again your intellligent and insightful comments make such a great case for partial releases. Using DP2( 10/31/71), is the perfect example, that is one of my all time favorite releases. There is really great material out there in the form of partial releases from 1968, 1969, & 1970. I listen to those shows on the Archive and sometimes there might be a nasty reel flip that makes releasing the whole show not the best option, but there is tremendous music all around that reel flip would make for a killer release. Aoxomoxoa 50th anniversary release is another example of a partial release, the music from the Avalon Balllroom is really cool. I would always prefer a complete release if it is possible,but you make such a great point using 10/31/71 as an example, why partial releases can be cool.

  • unkle sam
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    wow

    just reread some of the comments after I made my now infamous comment. Someone said bla, bla, bla which made no sense some said, I, I, me, me, I, I, I lol, some even agreed with me, thank you. Some even misunderstood what I said and some even put words into my mouth. I never said it was a rip off, I never said any thing that I thought was negative, just an opinion about what I thought and my preferences. You know what, I don't have to explain my self to some of you on this site who think you are the dead head of all deadheads, lol, get over your selves. Like I said before, my days of blindly buying dead music is over, I will listen first, try and get some information from non brainwashed deadheads about sound quality and make an INFORMED decision, that is all.
    Of course I am down for another year of Dave's, but I too wish I could hear the releases first, (or at least know what they are going to be) then purchase, but then they wouldn't be able to sell any less than stellar shows which as we all know can be included in this set up. I will still blindly purchase these releases for the bonus disc and the early bird pricing. That is what keeps me coming back, early bird is like 4 for the price of 3, plus a bonus disc, a real no brainer. And as was stated by someone, if I don't like one of the releases, I can always sell it on ebay for double what it cost, lol.
    Thanks for the heads up about the new Johnny Cash release from Bear, Dennis. I am truly sorry to hear that, I was so looking forward to hearing some Man in Black from the height of hippy days. I do understand that Bear was into a lot of things and recording the Grateful Dead was a passion and perhaps he had a bit of trouble with the set up due to the type of music it was and the way it was played, being used to the Dead and that set up. I don't know, just a theory. Still, would love to hear it.

  • daverock
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    Bright Star!

    I played Dicks Picks 2 myself last night....a wonderful disc. Proof positive that the distilled highlights of a show make for a great release. Unique Dark Star - both jazz inflected and melodic, with Jerry shining brightest. Hardly a whisper can be heard from Keith, though. Which probably adds to the tracks uniqueness-they could presumabley hear him, and respond to his playing-but we can't - we can only hear the response.

    John Keats birthday today, too. Author of some of the most transcendental poems I have ever read - "Was it a vision or a waking dream/Fled is that music - Do I wake or sleep?"

  • Forensicdoceleven
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    And so we came forth, and once again beheld the stars……….

    50 years ago today……………

    October 31, 1971
    Ohio Theater, Columbus, Ohio

    Set 1: Bertha-Me & My Uncle-Deal-Playing In The Band-Loser-El Paso-Tennessee Jed-Jack Straw-Big Railroad Blues-Brown Eyed Women-Mexicali Blues-Casey Jones-Cumberland Blues-One More Saturday Night

    Set 2: Dark Star>Sugar Magnolia>St. Stephen>Not Fade Away>Goin’ Down The Road Feelin’ Bad>Not Fade Away

    Encore: Johnny B. Goode

    Deadicated to Jason Stempin…………

    Long before the awakening of thought on earth, manifestations of cosmic energy must have been produced which have no parallel today………

    The first set, average while fine, gives no hint of the cosmic energy that would be unleashed in the second set. Previously uncirculated, officially released as the only single-disc Dick’s Picks in March 1995, this exploded like a supernova upon first listening way back when. And it has stood up to repeated listening since then. It is indeed very very fine, one of the best official 1971 releases……

    To quote DL himself: “I’m absolutely thrilled. I can’t believe that anyone who hears this is not going to go to outer space, intensely, over and over… This show was like getting hit with a brick in the face, I couldn’t believe it. I put it on again and said ‘Man!’ I must have played it ten times before I could talk… This is as good as it’s ever been. I’ve never heard anything like it, and I’m shocked… I have to put myself in a seatbelt. I start shaking, it’s so exciting… This is a thrill a minute.”

    Doubt thou the stars are fire, doubt that the sun doth move, doubt truth to be a liar, but never doubt I love……..

    Rock on!

    Doc
    I will love the light for it shows me the way, yet I will endure the darkness because it shows me the stars……

  • simonrob
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    Paranoia strikes deep.

    Sad. That's all.

  • Gratefulhan
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    Oro & Jim/Phish on West Coast

    Oro and Jim, thank you both as well. I plan to stay in shape and keep up with BJJ for as long as I can. I think I am one of the younger commenters on these pages, but at my BJJ academy, I am one of the oldest. There are few guys that have about a year on me, but most people's I train with are in their 20's to early 30's. They are hard to handle, but I can still hold my own, at least for now.

    I saw Phish this summer in Hershey. I had great time , but these West Shows look bonkers. What I have heard sounds great. Phish has been on top of their game I think for a while now, really least for the past 4 years or so. I need to do so more listening but it seemed like they turned their game up somewhere around 2015-2016 and just kept improving from then. Now it seems like just about every show is above average if not stellar.

    Also, I will say that Dead & Co have upped their game as well. I saw them at Blossom this summer. I felt like that show was OK, but there where some really good shows over summer. Plus some of their recent West Coast shows have been high level as well from I have heard. As I typed this, I watched the free 2nd set opener for tonight - it was a very well played Jack Straw.

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What's Inside:
7 Previously Unreleased Complete Shows On 20 Discs
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/09/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/10/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/17/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/18/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/19/72
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/29/73
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/30/73
Sourced from tapes recorded by Rex Jackson, Owsley "Bear" Stanley, and Kidd Candelario
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Restoration and Speed Correction by Plangent Processes
 
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 13,000

Steamboats and BBQ, ice cream cones and Mardi Gras - are you ready to laissez les bons temps rouler with the "gateway" to the Grateful Dead? Meet us, won't you, in St. Louis for seven complete and previously unreleased Dead concerts that capture the heart of the band's affinity for the River City.
 
LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73 is a 20CD set featuring five shows from the Fox Theatre - December 9 and 10, 1971; October 17-19, 1972; and two from the Kiel Auditorium - October 29 and 30, 1973. 
 
The seven shows in the collection span slightly less than two years, but they represent some of the best shows the Grateful Dead played during some of its peak tours. The music tells the story of a band evolving, changing from one sound to another seamlessly, precipitated – in large part – by significant personnel changes in the Dead’s lineup.
 
The two 1971 shows feature the original Grateful Dead lineup plus newcomer Keith Godchaux on piano. This version of the band would hold together for the next six months as the Dead embarked upon its Europe ’72 tour. By the time the Dead returned to the Fox Theatre less than a year later, they were without Pigpen, who’d played his final show with the Dead at the Hollywood Bowl on June 17, 1972. A year after the exceptional Fox 1972 shows, the Dead came back to St. Louis, but played the much larger Kiel Auditorium, touring behind the release of WAKE OF THE FLOOD, which came out just two weeks before.
 
All told, the band played 60 different songs during these shows highlighted by blazing romps through “Beat It On Down The Line” and “One More Saturday Night” and wistful takes on “Row Jimmy” and “Brokedown Palace” (whose lyrics give the collection its name). Meanwhile, the copious jamming ebbed and flowed like the mighty Mississippi River on multiple voyages through “The Other One” and “Dark Star.” Naturally, the band paid tribute to one of its favorite rock and rollers and one of St. Louis’ biggest stars by playing Chuck Berry songs at every show in the collection, including Pigpen galloping through “Run Rudolph Run.”  
 
Each show has been restored and speed corrected using Plangent Processes with mastering by Jeffrey Norman. The collection comes in a slipcase with artwork by Liane Plant and features an 84-page hardbound book as well as other Dead surprises. To set the stage for the music, the liner notes provide several essays about the shows, including one by Sam Cutler, the band’s tour manager during that era, and another by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether, among others. 
 
Due October 1st, LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73, is limited to 13,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net.

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I'm a fan of the more modestly sized June 76 and July 78 boxes, and not really the larger sized Spring 90's or E72. Just personal taste I suppose. The music's more important than the goodies/ephemera etc. IMHO. YMMV.

-edit- No box yet here, either. Just going off the reports I'm reading...

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Yes HF I was thinking the same thing about the 71 shows: they sound a lot like E72!
I had to check a couple times to make sure I had the right disc lol.
Keithfan might get stumped guessing at his family BBQs lol.

Have mostly heard the first five shows so far. (On 10/19 now)
Overall, Great audio, though there are a few splices. Only the SOTOTW one was tough...lots of repeats, otherwise music solid all around, but perhaps not a lot of “extraordinary” moments, except disc 2 from 10/18/72.
So far, to this DS freak, that’s worth the price alone! Really looking forward to the 73s and specifically disc 20!

BOXES/Space: yep, slightly smaller than a LP..like the small pizza box analogy!
I don’t think it’s tooooo big, but agree there is a lot of extra space...
Agree with most that GIANTS, 76 etc are just right size, though I really love the art etc of the PNW box as I love the PNW native art in general. Saw a great exhibit of it at SAM in 2013.
Agree I wouldn’t want em all that big though...

Oh ps: Does Keith not sound as good or prominent in the mix as you’ve ever heard, especially the 71s which sound like he’s playing the upright and not a grand..

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Just got my set in, but I can't find the serial number. Is it hidden somewhere? Am I missing something? Can anyone tell me where it is located? Any help is appreciated.

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Glad/hope you got/get yours

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I had to look around myself.

Daverock, you hit on a real key insight into eras of any kind. Like the '60s began ~ 1964 with the Beatles, post JFK, etc. The entire "decades" thing doesn't really hold up upon examination.

Other folks have pointed out that GD eras don't neatly fit into years and, of course, that's right. The band's eras really map to specific tours, the introduction of new players or new songs or new instruments or effects. Here's an idea: what if someone actually mapped out all the tours by dates, then noted the intro of new players, new songs, new instruments so one could grasp the overlays? Then there's the elusive time/age factor as teenagers (Bobby at least) or very young men whip past 30, then 40, then 50, and Bobby that focker is hitting his 70s and still going, just sans the bevy of groupies these days (I assume).

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....we need the number!!
And yes. Yes it is. Devoting mucho time to it. Might call in sick tomorrow.
The second disc of the first '72 show was so good, I played it twice.
Cumberland. You know me.
Playin'. A monster.
Casey Jones. Check.
GSET. Whoo-hoo!!!
Don't Ease. Bouncy.
Mexicali. Reprieve.
Black Peter. Sublime.
Bobby McGee. Perfect slot selection.
Bertha. No comment required.
I love this particular disc. Granted. I'm biased as hell regarding Cumberland.
But wait, there's more!!

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Got two loads of wood delivered today. Dumped, as always, in the road right in front of the house. I spent all afternoon loading and stacking the wood in the garage. Axe in hand, chopping the larger cuts into a more manageable size. I was called foolish for installing a wood burning fireplace. Too much work. Too dirty. Too smelly. Years later all the neighbors look on with envy and ask to borrow wood for their newly installed fire pits. Don’t you just flip a switch or something I always reply.

I come inside after finishing and my daughter hands me the box. Sunday delivery is quite nice. Can’t wait to grab a beer and fire it up. “Mom’s napping.”

So, hopefully tonight I can listen.

First comment. As others have pointed out. The box is way too big. A ton of unused space. And very difficult to remove a single show. They all slide out. How about adding a few more millimeters to make access to the discs easier. You clearly had the extra space.

Time for a Magic Hat #9 and nice little fire.

Happy listening to those who have their copies.

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also, AJS. Picked up one pickup load yesterday, about 800 lbs stacked into the truck, then 800 lbs stacked in various locations around the perimeter of the house. On a cold, dark winter night, snow swirling, I'll pop a little psylocibin, pour a whiskey, grab a guitar and dream on the fire. Yeah, fall is the best as the cooler temps push you to race to get ready for the snow and darkness. Beautiful! And perfect for listening to loud music as doors and windows are closed.

Paz, brothers.

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Burning wood... local product, have depended on it for forty years, see behind those sunflowers. Stacked a fresh load of beech, maple and ash just a few minutes ago. PITB in some ways, but there's nothing like a wood fire. I cook on the stove, heat water, its the iron beast magnet altar in winter. While awaiting the new box, went to my first live music indoors since February 2020 this afternoon. Host and composer Bill Cole presented a new work, Margaret and Katie... he taught at Amherst and Dartmouth, chaired the department of music, retired a few years ago. Tomorrow is his 84th birthday. Held at a small recital hall at Dartmouth (photo ID, vax certificate, student escorts), limited to forty by invitation, plus a few students, video will be posted to YT after some digital mastering. Seven musicians, everything from tuba, marimba, sax, flute, cornet, conch shell, kora, percussion, various reeds and didgeridoo. As Dartmouth was founded 1769 to educate and Christianize Native Americans, a few moments of quiet reflection on that upside down mistake this eve of Indigenous Peoples Day.

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Came home yesterday after hiking Pt Reyes to find the StL box ensconced behind the ˜petunias and safe from porch pirates. Woohoo! That's 8 days after the official release date, for everybody keeping score at home, so despite all the rigamarole about delays, the box actually made its way to me just about exactly as fast as the more recent DaPs have.

The packaging is lovely. Have only had time to audition two random discs, and they sounded great on every level. It's going to take a good long while to explore all 20 discs, but I'll be loving every minute of it.

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Mine has just been delivered in the UK. Obviously, I should have more faith in UPS.

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While waiting for my UPS delivery I’ve been reading the latest issue of Uncut. It has a short article and interview with the sax player Charles Lloyd whose music began with playing with the blues greats like Howlin’ Wolf and later hung out with the Grateful Dead who apparently loved his music. For those of us in Blighty he has a show on November 20 as part of the London Jazz Festival at the Barbican.

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Mine has just arrived in Sweden, plaudits to Deadnet for finally using a carrier which gets our stuff to us in a timely manner, for once we in the first world dont have to wait around for 6 or more weeks!
Daverock/Simonrob/ Gratefulgerd, I suppose you now also got yours, enjoy!

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3847 just arrived here in Scotland. Got hit with £63.15 in charges/taxes. Like others have said the box is too big and you can’t get a show out without them all falling out. I prefer smaller boxes. Weird shaped book but mine is in perfect condition. Now for a mammoth listening session.

Number 9426 also arrived in Scotland but with nothing to pay!!

Very nice package in perfect condition and some nice extras hidden away.

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Mine’s just arrived but cannot find the number!

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It’s on the back cover of the book.

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My box arrived Saturday and overall it is a drop dead gorgeous box. However, the lower right corner of the slipcase for 12/30/73 was mangled, as though someone attempted to shove it in, failed and bent it all up, and then just said f*** it and pushed it back in. There were some significant scratches on the disc that went into that part of the slipcase. Almost *half* of the 20 discs had at least a few hairline scratches on them. I get the environmentally friendly aspect of them, but I despise those cardboard cases.

I’ve sent an email to Customer Service and hopefully they can make it right. They were good about providing a replacement for DaP 39, which also had a bunch of scratches on one of the discs, which was surprising since those are at least in plastic trays. Seriously, does Rhino hire chimps to pack and run QC on their products?

“Karen” rant over. Back to the music!

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FrankParry, Charles Lloyd played with the Dead on 8/3/69 at the Family Dog, he plays on a great version of Dark Star. You probably already knew that. I see he plays on the same gig as the Dead on 10/1/67 at the Greek Theatre. I didn't know that he played with Howlin Wolf , but I don't know a Lot of things, Howlin Wolf is one of my favorites.

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Just listening to the last cd from 73 and half way through Eyes it looks like there’s a giant patch for about twenty seconds. Doesn’t spoil the enjoyment at all though - great version and a truly out there version of Dark Star.

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mine has arrived about an hour ago. UPS did a good job. Very reliable tracking from A to Z. Nothing out of control!
Well, I think it's gonna be a long night.
Proudfoot probably would say: Es wird eine lange Nacht.
I'm excited.
Enjoy yours
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It’s great to hear our European Head friends are getting their boxes so quickly. I would be bummed mine hasn’t shown yet, but I have SO MUCH freakin’ stuff to play before the box arrives. I’d be a fool to complain.
Listening to, among many, Bill Evans, Black Sabbath(Technical Ecstasy), Elvis Costello, and Dave’s picks from ‘73 shows.
I was informed I’d have my box on the 9th, 10th, 11th, and now 12th. Pretty sure it WILL arrive eventually.
No matter……Music Is The Best!!

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is alive and well and is playing in Santa Barbara this Saturday.

Just got started with the box. First up: disc one from Kiel Aud. 10/29/73.

So far, so good.

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Im not sur what to say to those stuck on the packaging. I just finished listening to 7 flawless, incredibly well recorded shows, flipping through a solid hardcover booklet, and enjoying some pretty cool extra treats. Not once during all the times Im going to replay these amazing shows am I going to be thinking "But shoot - if only they utilized that extra space deeper into the box or added ribbon to get the discs out quicker". I feel for you folks stuck on that stuff. I really do. Youre seeing a lot of stem and tripping on it, but there is a big bud sitting there to enjoy.

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For this box only, Dead.net changed unilaterally the shipping from "UPS Mail Innovations Priority" (UPS>USPS>local post) to "UPS Worldwide Saver. "
At least for me in Greece, this means that it will not be delivered to me by the local Greek Post (low customs clearance fee = 20 EUR), but by UPS Greece (80 EUR = 60 EUR UPS fee plus 20 EUR UPS handling).

Dead.net please use only UPS Innovations like all the time previously. Thank you.

Best wishes,

Alex

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In time for a 5 hour White Sox game last night. Perfect listening for a wild game. I love the box, art, extras and most importantly so far, the music!

For those who don't like the box, here's an idea. Throw it out. The slip cases didn't come with an umbilical cord. Amazing that people complain about this. Its called a box(ed) set. It comes in a box. If it makes your action figures look small, that's ok.

...If ya don't state your preferences ain't nothing gonna change. Space counts. At least for me.

Highly looking forward to my box. Still hangin' out near Bong.

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I'm well pleased with it, too. I like the box - sturdy and well made-it has gravitas befitting the music inside it. Considering it holds 20 cds, it doesn't seem that big to me, either. The last box I bought- "The Starday Custom Series" is bigger, and only holds 10cds. Though it does have a king sized book, too.

Anyway - I like the sound on the first one and a half cds. Rock steady. Also good that "Playing" crops up no less than 5 times, twice in 71 and 72 and once in 73, so its development can be appreciated across the years, if you have the mind. "The Other One" also features in each of the three years. I liked hearing Pigpen sing the Chuck Berry number instead of Bob, too.
The book looks a bit weird-I thought the pages were going to come tumbling out when I first opened it-but it has remained intact. Careful handling needed, I would say.
But overall- great stuff!
Mr Ones-sorry your's hasn't pitched up yet. It sounds like you have plenty to be going on with !

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If I was picky about this kind of thing, I would probably a little miffed that the corner of my StL is arrived a little smooshed in. It's not a big deal, but just for example, if I ever wanted to sell it, I couldn't list it as mint condition.

Fortunately, I'm not planning to sell it. And though I've only had time to test 3 discs so far, I haven't have any problems with the CDs so far, which is the most important thing.

As for the packaging? It looks fantastic, just a work of art to behold. But it's not super practical: it takes up a lot of space, even for a 20-CD set, and there's no easy way to see which shows are which or what songs are on a given CD without actually pulling the CD's out of the case. Which isn't super easy, either.

But that's nit picking, because the MUSIC is fucking great.

I'm so glad we had this time together, just to share a laugh and sing a song.

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Harvey Korman
Tim Conway
Vicky Lawrence
and
Owsley Stanley as the BBBBBBBEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAVVVVVVVEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

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we Deadheads are indeed a picky lot.

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Right on, SteveGold, I'm tossing the box and shelving the shows in my chronological shelf.

And Proudfoot, dooood, I'll have whatever you're having!

Tonight: more from the new box, with a dash of Tequila and Indica and maybe a Guinness....

Enjoy, all!

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While I would prefer a size that can fit into a standard bookcase, like June ’76 or July ’78, what we have displays the artwork beautifully. And is exceptional. My only qualm is leaving the slipcases generic. I think it was likely assumed most of us will rip the discs and then rarely will they see the light of day again. With that said, my bet would be that the box was designed for this time when vinyl reins for physical product. In some way it mirrors the original multi LP box sets, where the front opens for a tray that houses the records.

Sound wise, an earlier comment mentioned how three dimensional these releases get. My thoughts exactly when spot checking the discs yesterday. I actually listened to some of the Archive recordings prior to purchasing. By contrast quite proper. Something is done to really bring a stage-presence to the sound. A quality that isn’t there without the Norman magic. Very comfortable to settle into and let the band do their thing. Just add popcorn.

Looking forward to working through these shows in their entirety! Is it Thursday yet????

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I received Box Set #3840 on Saturday afternoon. I inspected the box, book and CDs - all are in good shape! Sunday I spent some time ripping the 20 CDs. I'm on a few days of vacation, so I will spend the next few listening to the shows in their entirety after I load them on my iPod. I'm pretty stoked!

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I wonder how many of these releases were recorded on Ramrod's reel to reel that's up for auction? Just browsed the whole listings. So much history. Jerry's Starfire Guild is a big ticket item. His Mutton is listed as well. My attention is drawn towards Jerry's Macintosh power amp though. Some high end vintage gear. Anybody got an extra million laying around?

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9454 has landed and I really like what I see. So if I’m gone for awhile, well you know…

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