Listen To The River: St. Louis '71 '72 '73 (20-CD)

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What's Inside:
7 Previously Unreleased Complete Shows On 20 Discs
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/09/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/10/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/17/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/18/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/19/72
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/29/73
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/30/73
Sourced from tapes recorded by Rex Jackson, Owsley "Bear" Stanley, and Kidd Candelario
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Restoration and Speed Correction by Plangent Processes

Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 13,000

Steamboats and BBQ, ice cream cones and Mardi Gras - are you ready to laissez les bons temps rouler with the "gateway" to the Grateful Dead? Meet us, won't you, in St. Louis for seven complete and previously unreleased Dead concerts that capture the heart of the band's affinity for the River City.

LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73 is a 20CD set featuring five shows from the Fox Theatre - December 9 and 10, 1971; October 17-19, 1972; and two from the Kiel Auditorium - October 29 and 30, 1973.

The seven shows in the collection span slightly less than two years, but they represent some of the best shows the Grateful Dead played during some of its peak tours. The music tells the story of a band evolving, changing from one sound to another seamlessly, precipitated – in large part – by significant personnel changes in the Dead’s lineup.

The two 1971 shows feature the original Grateful Dead lineup plus newcomer Keith Godchaux on piano. This version of the band would hold together for the next six months as the Dead embarked upon its Europe ’72 tour. By the time the Dead returned to the Fox Theatre less than a year later, they were without Pigpen, who’d played his final show with the Dead at the Hollywood Bowl on June 17, 1972. A year after the exceptional Fox 1972 shows, the Dead came back to St. Louis, but played the much larger Kiel Auditorium, touring behind the release of WAKE OF THE FLOOD, which came out just two weeks before.

All told, the band played 60 different songs during these shows highlighted by blazing romps through “Beat It On Down The Line” and “One More Saturday Night” and wistful takes on “Row Jimmy” and “Brokedown Palace” (whose lyrics give the collection its name). Meanwhile, the copious jamming ebbed and flowed like the mighty Mississippi River on multiple voyages through “The Other One” and “Dark Star.” Naturally, the band paid tribute to one of its favorite rock and rollers and one of St. Louis’ biggest stars by playing Chuck Berry songs at every show in the collection, including Pigpen galloping through “Run Rudolph Run.”

Each show has been restored and speed corrected using Plangent Processes with mastering by Jeffrey Norman. The collection comes in a slipcase with artwork by Liane Plant and features an 84-page hardbound book as well as other Dead surprises. To set the stage for the music, the liner notes provide several essays about the shows, including one by Sam Cutler, the band’s tour manager during that era, and another by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether, among others.

Due October 1st, LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73, is limited to 13,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net.

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March 20, 2022 - 4:57pm

#31

daverock

Joined:
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More art

One of the most stunning experiences I had going to an art gallery was when I went to see "Sunflowers" by Van Gogh a few years ago. I eventually found the room it was in, and noticed a huddle of people in front of a painting on the far side of the room. One of them moved..and there it was. It had a spotlight on it so that the yellow of the flowers shone out into the room. Amazing...but as I got closer, I realised that it didn't have a light on it at all - the light was actually coming out from within the painting. Truly extraordinary.
It's also quite an experience going to see his work in the Rijksmuseum in Amsterdam. I just wandered in there by chance about 30 years ago. Wow.
March 20, 2022 - 2:07pm

#32

Oroborous

Joined:
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Conekid in the know

per usual!
Thanks, lol, never knew that request page existed. Goes to show, just gotta poke around!
Those will get utilized more now for sure…Smithers, release the hounds!

Yeah that RFK was probably too many units for what it was? Good example of doing say one of these a year at lower unit count along with a more traditional box release at perhaps less units?
But I liked RFK, (hell I think they’ve done a great job with most) because that stretch from summer through the next summer is prime time for moi, and it sounds great, but they certainly weren’t the best available, once again the ole he went to a great city and street, but picked the wrong house? ? Wasn’t it relatively pricey too?
But as we’ve all been saying, there’s a whole lot of causal heads out there who might not buy anything UNLESS it was something they were at. Perhaps explains the Giants phenomenon some what?
That was sorta my M.O. back around turn of the century: “I have more than I need so I’m only going to get shows I was at. That worked out sorta ok at first by sheer dumb luck, but I eventually realized
A) I’m not going to get many of those any time soon, if at all, and
B) I’m missing out on some killer shit!
The E72 Dark Stars are what really brought me back. Didn’t get the trunk but picked up several of the Dark Star shows Ala cart.
So started dabbling again, but mostly just wanted the music and not more stuff. Luckily or not, my cousin used to get a lot of the releases free through their business connections with GDP etc, but when that all changed with Rhino etc, they lost those relationships. So I was able for a while to get copies of stuff he had that I wanted.
But then I started getting back into it, hanging with you junkies etc lol, and next thing you know I’m a “collector”, just the thing I was trying to avoid lol.
So of course the down side of only getting copies is all the great collection stuff I missed out on!
The biggest regrets were the FW box and Winterland 73. The FW I just wasn’t very in dead land at the time and because of the repetitive set lists figured “oh hell, I have live dead already” idiot!
Luckily I have the mini version and you know who here tightened me up with copies of the box, so at least I have the music!
The Winterland 73, being fall 73, which even then was one of the tours I had huge interest in, I contemplated getting it, and man, wasn’t it really cheap considering, but I cheap skated out and have been regretting it ever since!
Some of the others I regret only as a “collector” now, though I should have grabbed that summer 78, wasn’t that another bargain box?

So yeah Daverock, the scene was relatively small until later. When I started going in late seventies there were tour heads, but not anything like what would come. I think the whole multi show run factor contributed to this. It was now much easier to just plan on a three show run or two, especially day on weekends, then to catch 5 or 6 shows, one stop at a time up and down I 90 etc.
Now I know old timers talk of how it changed throughout the seventies, especially that huge influx of kids like me in the mid and late seventies, but I don’t think it was near as dramatic as what we saw from late seventies up too 87 when it exploded, perhaps leveled off a bit, but continued at a steady pace that unfortunately just got too big to support it properly. Fame, the kiss of death…

ART: not a active art participant, but sometimes you get shown the light!
We had a great Albright Knox gallery back in the tundra, and on family vaca to Europe in late seventies, went to tge Louvre etc. Don’t recall a lot of specifics, Mono Lisa etc? But it definitely impacted my thick adolescent Beavis and Butthead dumb American skull. That whole trip would of been much more awesome if I’d only been older.
That Hopper work is cool. I’ve seen that corner diner one but wouldn’t say I was familiar. Will have to burn a fat one and check him out. Yasss great light etc. And yes, I can only imagine how much more sharp and vivid his work would be live!
Good sheet Mon,
Party on Wayne!
March 20, 2022 - 12:57pm

#33

That Mike

Joined:
November 1, 2014

E-mail Survey

DaveRock - Awesome idea with the email to all the folks on the mailing list. Something that perhaps itemizes what is in the vaults (no use clamouring for reels that don’t exist), and survey to see what is in high demand. I know on the Neil Young site, as an example, he has a “Letters” column where he states he answers ALL the letters himself (I’ve sent a few, and always get a reply), and the bulk of requests are folks asking him to release this show, or this tour, etc, and he tells you if the request is even doable. I don’t expect the Core Four to answer Dead Head mail, but a quick email survey is interesting. Maybe it is as easy as Ice Cream Kid says, and we just hit up the request thread, but it doesn’t tell us what tapes are in the vault, and what condition, etc.

PS - Dave, you are right about seeing the art “in person”, but of course, work of say a DaVinci is so limited, so rare, and will not ever tour, that it would be so hard to see in person, save visiting Paris or Venice. But, should a major show make the rounds, like Picasso, or Diego Rivera/Frida Khalo, I’ve made a point to see it, and you are right - seeing a picture of these works does not do them justice! There is something about seeing The One And Only of something, knowing the artist worked on this piece. I’ll paraphrase Mr Ones al a “Music is the best”: “Art - and sports - are a close second!”
March 20, 2022 - 11:51am

#34

daverock

Joined:
September 1, 2014

A new approach

Crmcnkd - I hadn't noticed that section asking us to make recommendations, so thanks for pointing that out. Maybe, though, the only people likely to fill that out are the people who come on here-all the old faces-and we know what they (we, me) will say in advance. I like the idea of reaching people who may not come on here - maybe an email like we get telling us what is coming out- but asking us what we would like to see coming out instead. The key is, it has to be "them" wanting a survey - as much, if not more, than "us" wanting to fill one in.

Oro - thinking of casual fans of different eras, it reminds me of the fact that Deadheads didn't actually exist in the 1960s. I can't imagine early fans travelling around the country to see them. I guess it started with the invite to "Deadfreaks" on "Skull and Roses", but I would think it took several years before the travelling circus developed.

It's interesting watching a documentary on late 60's San Francisco bands called "Go Ride The Music-West Pole". The main bands on this are Jefferson Airplane and Quicksilver Messenger Service - but at one point an interviewer asks people queuing up outside a concert hall, who their favourite bands are. I was expecting them to say "The Dead" automatically-but they don't. They are mentioned but they were clearly perceived at that time as just being another band, along with the two mentioned, Steve Miller, Janis etc.

Mike - one of the great things about going to art galleries is how much more alive the originals are compared to the prints and posters you can see anywhere. I would say that going to an art gallery to look at paintings is a bit like going out to hear live music. If you go to any gallery, look at the originals, and then go in the gift shop and look at a book reproducing the originals you have just seen, the difference between the two is shocking.
March 20, 2022 - 11:23am

#35

icecrmcnkd

Joined:
October 20, 2015

Rehashing past speculation

Don’t forget that several people, including myself, have previously told stories about talking to other deadheads who are completely clueless or disinterested in the official releases.

The RFK Box is 15,000 copies and not sold out, although the banner says “less than 750 left”.
My Boxes are packed away so I can’t check what the production numbers are, but 15,000 seems to be the limit except for a few releases that need an AME.
I think that the last few Boxes were in the 10,000-12,000 range.

Dave’s Picks can sell 25,000 due to people buying more than one subscription and resellers.
And if you subscribe early bird you get 13 or 14 CD’s for $100, which is a pretty good deal.

For those wanting to take a survey, there is a page on this site called ‘Requests - Box Sets’.
I posted on it this morning, so use the ‘recent posts’ button to get to it, or use the search box.
March 20, 2022 - 11:16am

#36

That Mike

Joined:
November 1, 2014

Boxes & Paintings

I am enjoying the discussion, because I’m hoping the marketing folks, or even the interns working at Rhino, see that this is a very passionate group of dedicated fans. Oro, I really think you have made some great points, and it is hard to please everyone (personally I have never been a hardcore 60s Dead fan, because that was before they came along with jewels like Wake of The Flood, Mars Hotel, etc, and all the outstanding concert material those albums brought forth), but so much work goes into the sourcing and mixing of the music in these boxes, and the art work, and the history to the scene happening at the time, that most, if not all, are home runs.
Oro, you definitely hit the mark on many points, as did others, but collectively, as a group of fans, our mantra is “Keep ‘Em Coming!”

DR - I love a wide range of art, and even doodle a bit myself, but Hopper is definitely an artist I have held in the highest esteem, for his amazing use of light and open space to paradoxically create figures of loneliness and solitude. If I can ever get my butt to NYC, the Whitney Museum of American Art is where I plan to sleep; the guy was an American master, and really nice to hear you too see his immense talent.

Last listen - McLaughlin/Corea - Five Peace Band Live
On Deck - Ry Cooder - The UFO Has Landed
March 20, 2022 - 9:47am

#37

1stshow70878

Joined:
September 11, 2014

Great Discussion

I think I fall into the category y'all are citing here. Not quite into it as much as the die-hards but wanting it all anyway. The LTTR box was more money than I was willing to put out at the time so I chose the LIA vinyl instead. A trade off decided by my having already pre-ordered Dave's #1 vinyl and simply wanting to get more vinyl. Interestingly, all the fantastic comments have me alternately regretting my choice and being satisfied with a taste of '72. DR said recently the chunk I have on Light Into Ashes is the crux of the biscuit of the box so today I feel satisfied. My collecting took a hiatus around the time the big Europe '72 trunk came out but kindly folks here are helping me fill that void. Thanks to all for keeping the fire alive. It's so nice to have reliable information from everyone here in our disinformation shrouded world.
Cheers all!
March 20, 2022 - 8:06am

#38

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

Great comments

Mike, the 60s vibe, that’s a good example of what I’m saying. To “US”, the hardcore lunatics at deadnet, there appears to be an overwhelming unified consensus demanding a 60s box, but perhaps if you did a survey like DR suggests, our sample might be quite small comparatively? Just talking out me arse, but worth a thought?
You’d think they’d be doing marketing , but maybe not? Maybe they have been so fortunate to have enough of a loyal, reliable, bankable demand that they could just go with whatever they felt was good?

Personally, I think it’s good when things don’t sell out immediately. Gives some folks like P.T. etc a chance to decide or what not if they want to buy it. Or maybe you didn’t hear about it right a way, and as the bastard Murphy would have it, your busted after getting yet another of your kids braces, while the other kid smashed the car, and your washing machine broke. Like “Whaaaa???, you want $300 tomorrow morning, Dooaahh”
But these are singular micro type scenarios and we’re talking macro level.
Maybe DR is right and the nostalgia factor is bigger then I think, in that logistically, because of age, there are more casual fans from the later years than the early ones. Hell statistically, comparatively there weren’t that many causal fans in the early years. Let’s face it, for good or for ill, as time advanced there were way more causal “lets just go party and check it out folks” going to shows.
So maybe that’s part of it, when/if something that this larger population feels more akin to comes round, their more likely to buy it, then yet another older moldy from a time they don’t know or care about because they’ve never been in that deep?
I guess it’s probably a perfect storm of all the things we’ve been discussing? All these factors add up and the amount of units we’re talking about isn’t really that large, so…
But!….that’s all the more reason to deliver more, but smaller batches of certain eras!

Though I understand why a Giants type box would sell so fast, I still, do not understand fully how this box, by now, has not? Shifting market demographics and saturation is my guess though?
Just goes to show…
March 20, 2022 - 7:14am

#39

daverock

Joined:
September 1, 2014

Tip of the hat

ThatMike - my eyes lit up when you mentioned Edward Hopper. I really like his work too. About 20 years ago there was great exhibition on in London, and it was a real treat to be able to go from room to room and get drawn into his world. You can see his influence sometimes in films -"Deep Red" by Dario Argento features a scene that is clearly modelled on "The Nighthawks". And although I can't think of specific examples at the moment, Alfred Hitchcock and David Lynch feature scenes in some of their films that look to me to have been influenced by Hopper's way of seeing things.
March 20, 2022 - 5:01am

#40

PT Barnum

Joined:
December 2, 2009

format? sound quality? putting great shows with good shows?

IMO there seems to be lots of reasons why this has not sold out. I did not buy it and I buy them all. After the so so patch jobs on the PNW box which I did not care for, I passed on this box. These are all good shows, with great shows mixed in. Call me a snob but I want all great shows with no cuts or patches. If that's not possible then I will just keep what I got from the archive or from etree, why spend that kind of scratch for shows I already have that only sound a bit better?
The format could be the reason, some only want from the era they were a part of, mostly 80's from what I gather here. I like the progression of the band from psychedelic juggernaut to what they became, but not everyone's cup of tea.
Perhaps it's the ploy of putting out most requested shows with shows that are not up to the great show that they are centered around? The original great box was a tough act to follow, seeings how the E72 tour was their best tour and it was the first one released with a massive 73 discs. With that great price. How to follow that? It's been what tptb have been asking themselves since.
The spring 90 boxes are a good example of that also, a great tour with consistently great shows released at a great price, which sold out quickly.
But what do I know? just the ramblings of an old deadhead on the first day of Spring.

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What's Inside:
7 Previously Unreleased Complete Shows On 20 Discs
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/09/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/10/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/17/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/18/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/19/72
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/29/73
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/30/73
Sourced from tapes recorded by Rex Jackson, Owsley "Bear" Stanley, and Kidd Candelario
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Restoration and Speed Correction by Plangent Processes

Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 13,000

Steamboats and BBQ, ice cream cones and Mardi Gras - are you ready to laissez les bons temps rouler with the "gateway" to the Grateful Dead? Meet us, won't you, in St. Louis for seven complete and previously unreleased Dead concerts that capture the heart of the band's affinity for the River City.

LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73 is a 20CD set featuring five shows from the Fox Theatre - December 9 and 10, 1971; October 17-19, 1972; and two from the Kiel Auditorium - October 29 and 30, 1973.

The seven shows in the collection span slightly less than two years, but they represent some of the best shows the Grateful Dead played during some of its peak tours. The music tells the story of a band evolving, changing from one sound to another seamlessly, precipitated – in large part – by significant personnel changes in the Dead’s lineup.

The two 1971 shows feature the original Grateful Dead lineup plus newcomer Keith Godchaux on piano. This version of the band would hold together for the next six months as the Dead embarked upon its Europe ’72 tour. By the time the Dead returned to the Fox Theatre less than a year later, they were without Pigpen, who’d played his final show with the Dead at the Hollywood Bowl on June 17, 1972. A year after the exceptional Fox 1972 shows, the Dead came back to St. Louis, but played the much larger Kiel Auditorium, touring behind the release of WAKE OF THE FLOOD, which came out just two weeks before.

All told, the band played 60 different songs during these shows highlighted by blazing romps through “Beat It On Down The Line” and “One More Saturday Night” and wistful takes on “Row Jimmy” and “Brokedown Palace” (whose lyrics give the collection its name). Meanwhile, the copious jamming ebbed and flowed like the mighty Mississippi River on multiple voyages through “The Other One” and “Dark Star.” Naturally, the band paid tribute to one of its favorite rock and rollers and one of St. Louis’ biggest stars by playing Chuck Berry songs at every show in the collection, including Pigpen galloping through “Run Rudolph Run.”

Each show has been restored and speed corrected using Plangent Processes with mastering by Jeffrey Norman. The collection comes in a slipcase with artwork by Liane Plant and features an 84-page hardbound book as well as other Dead surprises. To set the stage for the music, the liner notes provide several essays about the shows, including one by Sam Cutler, the band’s tour manager during that era, and another by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether, among others.

Due October 1st, LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73, is limited to 13,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net.

Drummer(s) - Heart and Soul

The transition from Sittin' on Top of the World back into the Other One on 12/10 is mesmerizing, they turned that corner so fast, I don't think two drummers would have been as smooth; Billy had that Jazz/swing down, Mickey not so much.
10/18/72: Bobby tries to tell his old Yellow Dog story, the band cuts him off while they play a few bars of Heart and Soul, fun stuff.

I also tried, doesn't work

Daverock: Thanks for the Starday info, sounds right up my alley. Hoping Bear Family will do a King Records set in the future, a few actually, there's tons of killer Hillbilly and Blues in there.
Random note: the standalone release of 12/10/71 has a much nicer and sturdier slip case. Looking forward to the vinyl release.

Just a suggestion

I use canned air duster to get some dust particles off the cds that come from a new box or Dap. I noticed that sometimes you cant see any dust and it skips anyways, so I puff the disk for a second and 'voila' no skippy diskie.

Is that for real, Wilfred?

Cool.

No skippy diskie

Love that

So far

I have made it through both 71 shows. The sound is impeccable. My new favorite Comes A Time.

My only complaint so far is the booklet. Pages 73-80 are missing. It seems a shame that with all the unused space in the box, they couldn’t have included those. Too be honest, I rarely read through all the liner notes. However, I would like to know how the story ends. No spoilers please.

Yes, for real!

I before I received my box today publicly wished for box #00420. Then, at 4:18 CST (which I thought to conveniently round to 4:20) my box arrived. I was painting, so couldn't grab it 'til around 7. I have an extra large mailbox so it fit in there easy, with Space to spare. :-) Coincidentally, my packing box (the box box) also has 4-2 written in black sharpie on it. I always save the box boxes. Anyway, my avatar is now a snapshot of the booklet. You'd have to save it to your computer to zoom in and see.

Oh, and yes I have already dumped the CDs out inadvertently all over the place. They fall out kinda easy. I look forward to perusing this a bit more in the coming days.

Gotta check my book for pages now though! 00420, baby! :-)

I trust Wilfred T Jones....

....very cool.
Do you people think the remaining band members get these boxes?
And the 10.18.72 Dark Star is Phil Heavy. Very nice.

Band Members Get These Box Sets

Just invoked the Magic 8 Ball.

Q: Do band members get these releases?
A: Signs point to yes.

I don't believe the magic 8 ball has ever been so far. So there you have it.

Arrived/CDs

My box set arrived today. I love all of the extras that were packed in with it, it was a nice surprise. As for most important part, the music, I have only listened to 10/18/72 so far. I have a lot familiarity with that show, so started there. So far it sounds great. Mr. Norman and the Plangent (spelling?) Process really do wonders. I can't wait to get into the rest of the shows. I am familiar with 12/10/71, as I had it on tape back in the day. I have listened to 10/19/72 once so I can't say I really know that show. The rest will be first listens.

I have been going through all of my CDs, GD and otherwise, and I am removing them from those came packed in cardboard slipcases. Those slipcases can scratch the CDs when they are removed. Of course I found several that had the glue issue, where the CD got stuck in the seam where the glue separated. I also came across some slipcases that were loose, so as I as opened them, the CDs almost fell out. So I have been taking the CDs and placing them in individual plastic CDs cases. They don't scratch the CDs and they keep them secured. I don't want to have to replace any because the secondary market prices are nuts.

Day 6…

…of the great box hostage crisis. I’m starting to get a little antsy. Delivery was confirmed today for the 6th straight day, by 8, 7, 10, or any other O’clock, but no show. I still have plenty to listen to, but I’m starting to tire of hearing everyone’s great descriptions, and not being able to listen. Sigh.

Close to perfect

Great concise box great shows ( on my 3rd ) thank you everyone! I could go for a 30 show box( hint hint ) but out of respect for those that have limits I can go for this.
Oh hell whom am I kidding give me every Greek show with a 5’ set lol

iGrateful

As always, i get 2 boxes of every release because i always pay-it-forward to my older brother that first introduced me to the bus schedule before I jumped on!
So yea, we all love it, it is amazing... listening now :-)
...but have you all ripped and played from your digital player (laptop?)
My playback source is JRiver Media, and after i rip and begin playback, i can retrieve digital photo content that scrolls in DISPLAY when I select during playback... have you checked this out?
Great old pictures rotate... Dead through the years + Jimi, bob dylan with the dead, a VERY recent picture of Donna that i think is great + many other moments in time we all remember... Branford Marsalis and others.... this is just from discs 1 & 2 so far!
Anyone else experiencing this as well??
As always, iGrateful
Hope you are all well

Box Set

For those that are still wondering, just read the Producer's Note and all the shows are two track.

Sound quality is fantastic so far.

Mr. Ones et al....

....the box will arrive. And you will love it.

Grateful

10/17/72 is like jerry said "I mean it was just like, it was just, crackling with energy!" I think we are pretty lucky with this wonderful box. I mean we asked and they listened. This box will be talked about for quite a long time. We should give DL, rhino, and the dead a 21 joint salute.

chuck it out!

Gratefulhan - paper sleeves are quite handy - and you can still store the cds in them within the original jacket of the cds sometimes. Saves even more space than the plastic trays. Another good way of creating more space is to chuck things out that don't matter anymore.

101872

What an outstanding show. First time I've heard it. Awesome sound too. Today will listen to 121071. Received box yesterday, 05188 is in the house. Great package, Love it !

I cannot state it any more…

I cannot state it any more eloquently than other posters have, but having just received this yesterday, I have to say they really have created an amazingly beautiful box set, with GREAT sound!!! These box sets are a celebration of and for the fans, and they really celebrate what a monster force the Grateful Dead was. I've been fortunate to obtain some great box sets this year - Dylan's latest comes to mind - and they are just so great for the packaging, the pictures, the extras (nice touch here Rhino!), but especially the music!

I would say that they have upped their game on this box, but as I look at all the Dead box sets I have, all of them unique and incredible, I think it would be more accurate to say they have absolutely maintained a great standard of quality.

Mr Ones - Yours will arrive, and when it does, it will steal the face right off your head!

10/17/72 is not short

the lack of an other one/dark star my lead one to believe that10/17/72 is short (like 12/9/71 which is really short, i mean seriously did some of it not get recorded?), but at 3 h 40 m i would not classify 10/17/72 as short at all, whoa 31 songs (including the NFA reprise as a song), although i casually listened to this show on the archive shortly after purchasing LTTR i didnt realize how long the show was

oh and someone called out the 12/10/71 comes a time... gotta love the jerry falsetto on empty cup, i think he does that at felt forum too

Beautiful Box Set

Just plainly beautiful. My wife even gave it a spot in the living room and not the basement.

hot tub and schwing! images

quite a combination

#420 For Wilfred

Too cool! Can you give us some lottery numbers to play?
Cheers!

Lexie

Hey, I know her! And a, their spectacular, but they ain’t real lol

Carlos

Firing one up as we speak…ok, now we need 19 others for the Ssssaaaaalllluuuuuuuute!

Howdy Mike!
Go Leafs lol

#00243 today in Germany

Got my box today really quickly just after 8 days receiving the shipping note.
UPS charges an extra of EUR 47 for taxes and fees in front of my frontdoor.
Second lowest number behind Dave's Pix Vol. 3 which has #242 but this
one was a replacement.
Sort out 10/19/72 during a drive and it looks like the show is in full lenght
with stage banters, tunings etc. All CDs are complete and looks fine.
With nearly 1000 shows in my collection there are now four more I've missed
in the past times. Will check them all out during the next week when I have plenty of time.
By the way - my last five:
GD- St. Louis 12/10/71 5-LP Box
Gov't Mule - Philly 09/11/21
Gov't Mule - Virginia Beach 9/17/21
Page & Plant - Unledded
Neil Young - Carnegie Hall 1970 2-LP

Oro, Colorado Gent

Hey Oro! How are you Bud! Bow before the Mighty Leafs, they actually won their home opener last night, only 81 to go! Like Lexie, they are all tease, and they end up breaking your heart. I hope you are enjoying the box set - they really did a hell of a great job on this. I’ve bashed them for some service issues in the past, but man, talk about making amends!
I hope all is well, see you in the playoffs.

Dennis, Nappy Rags - I know you guys love jazz, so I’d love to hear your thoughts on the Coltrane Seattle release next week.

Speaking of Seattle, how phucing cool are those new Kraken uniforms!! They will be a lousy team, but will look first class losing.

Hey!

Where's the hot tub???

Lexie & Her Hot Tub

MaryE chased her off with a broom!
“Scat! You harlot! This is a fan site, not a sight for a fan! Beat it, you and your tub!!!!”

Lexie is gone....

....but so is my post that pointed it out. Am I in trouble?

Listen To The River Box set

Box number 00025 landed in Manchester UK today. It looks fantastic. That’s my weekend sorted!

re: VGuy Ut Oh

...if you are, then I am too. Mine's has gone *poof* also, in acknowledgement of your playful observation...

I suppose any comments related to missing some riff raff here or there aren't taken very kindly. We're all human...it's all good and it was all in good fun. Except captcha. Captcha is not human, and usually not too much fun.

Enjoy the shows people!
Sixtus

P.S. To reiterate my now lost/prior observation of immense enthusiasm: one pertinent/favorite moment so far has been the impeccable and intense transition from Dew back into Playin' on the 18OCT72 show....hadn't heard that before, and I will not forget it any time soon

What a long strange trip it's been

07676 has arrived as promised by UPS> USPS.
On July 21, 2021, the dead DOT net store posted this "Listen To The River: St. Louis '71 '72 '73" box set, and a great and wonderful Head named "Dennis" was the first to poop a comment. Before the day was over, I laid my $219.00 greenbacks down for a box. I love these October '71 shows presented here, along with the Grateful Dead 1971 guru/cheerleader, forensicdoceleven, who relit the 1971 GD joint for me.

Time rolled on with some great comments and discussions, on topic and off-topics
of the GD, but music in general. I think I left a comment or two, also.

Mid-September rolls in and my anticipation builds. A little later a dreaded email arrives stating that there will be a delay in the shipping of this box later than October 1st. No big deal, I'll wait.

Good news with an email my box has shipped, and I may track its progress on the UPS tracker. A little bit later the tracker gives me a date of10/14/2021 as an arrival date via USPS.
A 10-day delay on this one, no big deal, my patience paid off.

Drummers

One of the show's I caught I remember Bill leaving the stage during a Sugaree and Mickey as a lone drummer and he added his own unique textures. The classic Mickey and the Hartbeats boots are good examples that Mickey was also a great jazz stylist when given the platform.

Box number?

I cant believe I'm at the age where I finally can't find the box number on my set. Embarassing. Where do I look? 🦮👽

Box Number

It is on the back of the skinny book.

The older I get the harder it is for me to read small print and these books continue to shrink in size.

I met #1822 yesterday in Saint Paul, Minnesota

Looks good, sounds good . . .

10 18 1972

First show of the box I'm listening straight through. Dang if something didn't pop during BIODTL to clean up the sound-- started hearing much cleaner lines from Phil and Keith, Bobby settled a little more inward. Or maybe a left sided earwax plug finally cleared itself out (the cat sure is licking something....). Or I just turned it up a bit.

I'm not familiar with Fall of '72 and my initial impression is that the playing is a lot more ragged and loose. Tumbling rough. Not E'72 and definitely not yet '73. Like '71! Is that the flow Dave found in these shows? Will see.

Lexie had nothing on 1968 Eva Gabor...

with that perky little dress...and those little white gloves...
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Oh, sorry. "Getting a little carried away there"

"It's tattooed on the back of the neck"

Name that "airborne" comedy troupe and you win!

Monty python

The vicar. It might be the church police.

Re: Fivebranch and Fall '72

I would definitely agree that they are quite loose Fall '72, I'd argue that they played loosely and laid back, and more in tune with some of the tunes like He's Gone, Sugaree, and especially Bird Song and Playing in the Band. Bird Song is magnificent in Fall '72, and Playing is simply scrumtrulescent in Fall '72 (11/18, 11/15, 10/18, and 11/24, and hopefully 10/17 is as good as the next night's. They also played some great Dark Stars on that tour, partly because of the laid back vibe of the rest of the playing. You also will find a lot of extremely nice China Riders, Jack Straws, Boxes of Rain, and Black-Throated Winds. The Truckin's continue the years expansive versions, but an exceptionally well played tour. I love Europe '72, but a lot of those newer songs which evolved over that long European jaunt, then continued to take shape in Summer '72, were much better, to my ears, than those earlier versions. He's Gone on 11/17 and 11/18 are my two favorite versions ever, just absolutely gorgeous, and this is probably my favorite era for that one. I advise a deep dive into Fall '72, the waters are deep and wide, and this box set provides the literal starting point. 10/18 is a show I've had and loved for years, but have only listened to that massive Playing sequence for the most part for many years, looking forward to getting to that one for a fresh listen, and 10/17 and 10/19 are completely new to me, so I'm pumped for those. Hope the discs get you hooked, pretty sure they will.

Box Set Concept

I am really enjoying this box set. I have had a good listen to 10/19/72. It sounds so good both in audio quality and musically. What i really like though is Dave L's concepts for this box set. This is the 3rd geographical box set and I have to say I really like this idea. Just like the Giants Stadium and PNW, I like how we get shows that span a few years. Yet each illustrates how the band played when at certain venues. Earlier my learning and tape trading days, the Fillmore East was, in mind, and reality one of those geographical powerhouses that brought out the best in the band. I had 2/13/70, and 4/28/71 on tape which confirmed it for me. There are so many more of these geographical power houses - The Spectrum, The Greek, etc... that i really hope Dave L sticks with this formula. That is not to say that getting complete runs of shows shouldn't happen. Still I feel like the method used for the St. Louis box gives a variety of great shows and makes the final product more interesting. Any time I can get some shows with PigPen, then of course the glorious year of 1972 in a box set, well I am happy. Those 1973 shows are looking great to me, so that is just the icing on the cake.

THE CHURCH POLICE!!!

Carlo wins!!!

Big Railroad Blues 12 10 71!!!

Yahoo!!!

Gratefulhan has a good point....

....now do the Greek.
I'm going to dip out of rotation and spin Kiel 10.30.73.
I kinda feel bad not playing some of these shows on their respective anniversaries.
But not THAT bad.

Loose Lucy....

....if I had one word to describe that particular song, it would be "bouncy".

Without taste, genius is only sublime folly.......

Yo! Rockers!!

Anniverseries coming up, just checking in . Fabulous box. Worth it all for the immaculate recording/reissue of the second set from December 10, 1971. I will comment on the 12/9/71 and 12/10/71 shows at the appropriate time, but for now let's be grateful and luxuriate in them......

Moving soon, much longer commute, have loaded up lots of Fall 1972 shows for my listening pleasure. Yes, my fellow rockers, stepping outside my comfort zone, a new and different kind of gooey Grateful Dead goodness, looking forward to the explorations...................

I am fortunate that I was born in a family where music was already a part of life........

Rock on!!!

Doc
When one has been touched by the stellar power and ethereal playing of a sublime musician, one is lifted, if only briefly, to a place beyond the realm of the temporal...............

Ehhh, What's Up Doc!

Enjoy the Bird Songs on your Fall '72 jaunt. What is it? A rocker? A ballad? I say neither. I say it's a Jammer. Son of Dark Star.

And to the rest of you Bolos: I've been listening to this box set a little bit differently. I'm going in order show-by-show, but I'm listening to each show 4 times each. I'm on my last go for 10/17. Looking forward to Light From Ashes next. I also want to re-visit 2nd set 12/10 now that Doc's given it an additional plug; I'll be focused on that thing like Animal House on double-secret-probation.

Yeah, this is a great box set theme. Really enjoying the span of years it covers - from a set list standpoint, we're getting a ton of variety. Europe '72 had roughly 55 different songs. I forget what I came up with for this one, but it was a lot more. Will have to do a recount.

I like that we get a Brokedown Palace from each year.

He's Gone is great this part of '72, but my personal favorites are the firstb three times they ever played it (E72 Tour): up-tempo versions from 4/17, 4/24, and 4/26. There's also a unique trippy version on 5/26 where Bobby breaks out the tremolo.

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