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    What's Inside:
    7 Previously Unreleased Complete Shows On 20 Discs
    Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/09/71
    Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/10/71
    Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/17/72
    Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/18/72
    Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/19/72
    Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/29/73
    Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/30/73
    Sourced from tapes recorded by Rex Jackson, Owsley "Bear" Stanley, and Kidd Candelario
    Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
    Restoration and Speed Correction by Plangent Processes
     
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 13,000

    Steamboats and BBQ, ice cream cones and Mardi Gras - are you ready to laissez les bons temps rouler with the "gateway" to the Grateful Dead? Meet us, won't you, in St. Louis for seven complete and previously unreleased Dead concerts that capture the heart of the band's affinity for the River City.
     
    LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73 is a 20CD set featuring five shows from the Fox Theatre - December 9 and 10, 1971; October 17-19, 1972; and two from the Kiel Auditorium - October 29 and 30, 1973. 
     
    The seven shows in the collection span slightly less than two years, but they represent some of the best shows the Grateful Dead played during some of its peak tours. The music tells the story of a band evolving, changing from one sound to another seamlessly, precipitated – in large part – by significant personnel changes in the Dead’s lineup.
     
    The two 1971 shows feature the original Grateful Dead lineup plus newcomer Keith Godchaux on piano. This version of the band would hold together for the next six months as the Dead embarked upon its Europe ’72 tour. By the time the Dead returned to the Fox Theatre less than a year later, they were without Pigpen, who’d played his final show with the Dead at the Hollywood Bowl on June 17, 1972. A year after the exceptional Fox 1972 shows, the Dead came back to St. Louis, but played the much larger Kiel Auditorium, touring behind the release of WAKE OF THE FLOOD, which came out just two weeks before.
     
    All told, the band played 60 different songs during these shows highlighted by blazing romps through “Beat It On Down The Line” and “One More Saturday Night” and wistful takes on “Row Jimmy” and “Brokedown Palace” (whose lyrics give the collection its name). Meanwhile, the copious jamming ebbed and flowed like the mighty Mississippi River on multiple voyages through “The Other One” and “Dark Star.” Naturally, the band paid tribute to one of its favorite rock and rollers and one of St. Louis’ biggest stars by playing Chuck Berry songs at every show in the collection, including Pigpen galloping through “Run Rudolph Run.”  
     
    Each show has been restored and speed corrected using Plangent Processes with mastering by Jeffrey Norman. The collection comes in a slipcase with artwork by Liane Plant and features an 84-page hardbound book as well as other Dead surprises. To set the stage for the music, the liner notes provide several essays about the shows, including one by Sam Cutler, the band’s tour manager during that era, and another by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether, among others. 
     
    Due October 1st, LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73, is limited to 13,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net.

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  • icecrmcnkd
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    I listened to DP2 extensively in the 90’s. Set 2 is smoking and the release sounded so much better than the cassettes I was collecting at the time.

    But, I doubt that the quality of Set 2 would be diminished if Set 1 was included in the release. Full shows should be released when possible, and everyone will have the option of putting what CD’s they want into their CD player.

    I also don’t believe that Dave and Rhino have a policy that incomplete shows won’t get released. Everything worthwhile will come out eventually. But, once again, Dave and Rhino have 30 years of material to work with and shouldn’t have to cater to a single group that demands that they get all the attention (that includes pre-hiatus, post-hiatus, Donna-in, Donna-out, Brent, heroin-Jerry, etc., etc.).

    I am thankful and Grateful that these recordings exist and that they are being polished up and released. Keep them coming Dave and Rhino, from all years so that an accurate representation of the entire career of the Greatest Band In The Universe is available.

  • Oroborous
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    Dicks/partials

    I don’t mind some of the partials.
    Vol 14 comes to mind.
    As long as the songs are sorta in order.
    Don’t like when they totally do Boroughs like cut ups.
    Ladies and Gentlemen for example. Doesn’t have the same flow.

    EDIT: looking forward to taking vol 2 for a ride, it’s been awhile.

  • Dennis
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    Unk Sam & Johnny

    As I said I'm glad I got the Johnny cd (also the fucking album :-) )

    But was shocked at the recording. The recordings of San Quentin and Folsom are FAR superior. Of course they were set up to make a record so the recording should be top notch,,,, right? :-) It was of course a "Columbia Stereo 360" album!

    Like most "country" the songs are SHORT! 28 Songs on this cd.

    But if you like the man in black, get it. I like supporting the Owsley recordings.

    On the Johnny front... I remember when Ice-T was having trouble with Body Count's Cop Killer and people were whining about the violence in rap. He said nobody complained when Johnny Cash sang, "I shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die".

    Then in Cocaine Blues Johnny sings.....

    99 years underneath that ground
    I can't forget the day I shot that bad bitch down

    Life's funny!

    Update on Johnny - ok my 3rd time thru. I'm getting use to the sound, I think maybe it was a mono recording(?) Not as muddy as first blush listen. But the distance between vocals and drums is weird. Like Johnny was standing on left side of stage at the edge and one guy with a drum kit was in the far rear right side. Odd imaging.

    Glad I got!

  • JimInMD
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    Dicks Picks 2

    10/31/71 - See Doc's review, this one contains one of our favorite Dark Stars. My first listen was followed with a Wow and am immediate relisten.

    Didn't I hear the reels for the first set were not in the vault? I thought they did not exist, but they seem to be represented on the archive. I do think we have a case for shows with missing reels to make their way into Dave's Picks under the umbrella of Full Show releases. They sort of blew through this barrier when they released fifth reel of 2/27/77 at the end of Dave's Picks Vol. 29

    February 27, 1977 – Robertson Gym, University Of California, Santa Barbara, California:
    "Morning Dew" (Bonnie Dobson, Tim Rose) – 13:58
    "Sugar Magnolia" (Weir, Hunter) – 9:45
    "Johnny B. Goode" (Chuck Berry) – 4:23

    Dick's Picks 2 - an instant classic. A great release. Happy Halloween all.. trip or treat?

  • billy the kidd
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    Daverock/partial show releases

    Daverock, once again your intellligent and insightful comments make such a great case for partial releases. Using DP2( 10/31/71), is the perfect example, that is one of my all time favorite releases. There is really great material out there in the form of partial releases from 1968, 1969, & 1970. I listen to those shows on the Archive and sometimes there might be a nasty reel flip that makes releasing the whole show not the best option, but there is tremendous music all around that reel flip would make for a killer release. Aoxomoxoa 50th anniversary release is another example of a partial release, the music from the Avalon Balllroom is really cool. I would always prefer a complete release if it is possible,but you make such a great point using 10/31/71 as an example, why partial releases can be cool.

  • unkle sam
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    wow

    just reread some of the comments after I made my now infamous comment. Someone said bla, bla, bla which made no sense some said, I, I, me, me, I, I, I lol, some even agreed with me, thank you. Some even misunderstood what I said and some even put words into my mouth. I never said it was a rip off, I never said any thing that I thought was negative, just an opinion about what I thought and my preferences. You know what, I don't have to explain my self to some of you on this site who think you are the dead head of all deadheads, lol, get over your selves. Like I said before, my days of blindly buying dead music is over, I will listen first, try and get some information from non brainwashed deadheads about sound quality and make an INFORMED decision, that is all.
    Of course I am down for another year of Dave's, but I too wish I could hear the releases first, (or at least know what they are going to be) then purchase, but then they wouldn't be able to sell any less than stellar shows which as we all know can be included in this set up. I will still blindly purchase these releases for the bonus disc and the early bird pricing. That is what keeps me coming back, early bird is like 4 for the price of 3, plus a bonus disc, a real no brainer. And as was stated by someone, if I don't like one of the releases, I can always sell it on ebay for double what it cost, lol.
    Thanks for the heads up about the new Johnny Cash release from Bear, Dennis. I am truly sorry to hear that, I was so looking forward to hearing some Man in Black from the height of hippy days. I do understand that Bear was into a lot of things and recording the Grateful Dead was a passion and perhaps he had a bit of trouble with the set up due to the type of music it was and the way it was played, being used to the Dead and that set up. I don't know, just a theory. Still, would love to hear it.

  • daverock
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    Bright Star!

    I played Dicks Picks 2 myself last night....a wonderful disc. Proof positive that the distilled highlights of a show make for a great release. Unique Dark Star - both jazz inflected and melodic, with Jerry shining brightest. Hardly a whisper can be heard from Keith, though. Which probably adds to the tracks uniqueness-they could presumabley hear him, and respond to his playing-but we can't - we can only hear the response.

    John Keats birthday today, too. Author of some of the most transcendental poems I have ever read - "Was it a vision or a waking dream/Fled is that music - Do I wake or sleep?"

  • Forensicdoceleven
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    And so we came forth, and once again beheld the stars……….

    50 years ago today……………

    October 31, 1971
    Ohio Theater, Columbus, Ohio

    Set 1: Bertha-Me & My Uncle-Deal-Playing In The Band-Loser-El Paso-Tennessee Jed-Jack Straw-Big Railroad Blues-Brown Eyed Women-Mexicali Blues-Casey Jones-Cumberland Blues-One More Saturday Night

    Set 2: Dark Star>Sugar Magnolia>St. Stephen>Not Fade Away>Goin’ Down The Road Feelin’ Bad>Not Fade Away

    Encore: Johnny B. Goode

    Deadicated to Jason Stempin…………

    Long before the awakening of thought on earth, manifestations of cosmic energy must have been produced which have no parallel today………

    The first set, average while fine, gives no hint of the cosmic energy that would be unleashed in the second set. Previously uncirculated, officially released as the only single-disc Dick’s Picks in March 1995, this exploded like a supernova upon first listening way back when. And it has stood up to repeated listening since then. It is indeed very very fine, one of the best official 1971 releases……

    To quote DL himself: “I’m absolutely thrilled. I can’t believe that anyone who hears this is not going to go to outer space, intensely, over and over… This show was like getting hit with a brick in the face, I couldn’t believe it. I put it on again and said ‘Man!’ I must have played it ten times before I could talk… This is as good as it’s ever been. I’ve never heard anything like it, and I’m shocked… I have to put myself in a seatbelt. I start shaking, it’s so exciting… This is a thrill a minute.”

    Doubt thou the stars are fire, doubt that the sun doth move, doubt truth to be a liar, but never doubt I love……..

    Rock on!

    Doc
    I will love the light for it shows me the way, yet I will endure the darkness because it shows me the stars……

  • simonrob
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    Paranoia strikes deep.

    Sad. That's all.

  • Gratefulhan
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    Oro & Jim/Phish on West Coast

    Oro and Jim, thank you both as well. I plan to stay in shape and keep up with BJJ for as long as I can. I think I am one of the younger commenters on these pages, but at my BJJ academy, I am one of the oldest. There are few guys that have about a year on me, but most people's I train with are in their 20's to early 30's. They are hard to handle, but I can still hold my own, at least for now.

    I saw Phish this summer in Hershey. I had great time , but these West Shows look bonkers. What I have heard sounds great. Phish has been on top of their game I think for a while now, really least for the past 4 years or so. I need to do so more listening but it seemed like they turned their game up somewhere around 2015-2016 and just kept improving from then. Now it seems like just about every show is above average if not stellar.

    Also, I will say that Dead & Co have upped their game as well. I saw them at Blossom this summer. I felt like that show was OK, but there where some really good shows over summer. Plus some of their recent West Coast shows have been high level as well from I have heard. As I typed this, I watched the free 2nd set opener for tonight - it was a very well played Jack Straw.

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What's Inside:
7 Previously Unreleased Complete Shows On 20 Discs
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/09/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/10/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/17/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/18/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/19/72
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/29/73
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/30/73
Sourced from tapes recorded by Rex Jackson, Owsley "Bear" Stanley, and Kidd Candelario
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Restoration and Speed Correction by Plangent Processes
 
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 13,000

Steamboats and BBQ, ice cream cones and Mardi Gras - are you ready to laissez les bons temps rouler with the "gateway" to the Grateful Dead? Meet us, won't you, in St. Louis for seven complete and previously unreleased Dead concerts that capture the heart of the band's affinity for the River City.
 
LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73 is a 20CD set featuring five shows from the Fox Theatre - December 9 and 10, 1971; October 17-19, 1972; and two from the Kiel Auditorium - October 29 and 30, 1973. 
 
The seven shows in the collection span slightly less than two years, but they represent some of the best shows the Grateful Dead played during some of its peak tours. The music tells the story of a band evolving, changing from one sound to another seamlessly, precipitated – in large part – by significant personnel changes in the Dead’s lineup.
 
The two 1971 shows feature the original Grateful Dead lineup plus newcomer Keith Godchaux on piano. This version of the band would hold together for the next six months as the Dead embarked upon its Europe ’72 tour. By the time the Dead returned to the Fox Theatre less than a year later, they were without Pigpen, who’d played his final show with the Dead at the Hollywood Bowl on June 17, 1972. A year after the exceptional Fox 1972 shows, the Dead came back to St. Louis, but played the much larger Kiel Auditorium, touring behind the release of WAKE OF THE FLOOD, which came out just two weeks before.
 
All told, the band played 60 different songs during these shows highlighted by blazing romps through “Beat It On Down The Line” and “One More Saturday Night” and wistful takes on “Row Jimmy” and “Brokedown Palace” (whose lyrics give the collection its name). Meanwhile, the copious jamming ebbed and flowed like the mighty Mississippi River on multiple voyages through “The Other One” and “Dark Star.” Naturally, the band paid tribute to one of its favorite rock and rollers and one of St. Louis’ biggest stars by playing Chuck Berry songs at every show in the collection, including Pigpen galloping through “Run Rudolph Run.”  
 
Each show has been restored and speed corrected using Plangent Processes with mastering by Jeffrey Norman. The collection comes in a slipcase with artwork by Liane Plant and features an 84-page hardbound book as well as other Dead surprises. To set the stage for the music, the liner notes provide several essays about the shows, including one by Sam Cutler, the band’s tour manager during that era, and another by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether, among others. 
 
Due October 1st, LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73, is limited to 13,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net.

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Dave's Picks 2022 and box set?

10/31/70
9/16/72
2/15/73
6/30/74

Box set: March-April 1969

There are some people who, if they don't already know, you can't tell 'em............

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You should always go to other people's funerals; otherwise, they won't come to yours......

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2/15/73 needs it. Bad.
And 2/17.

Seed THAT Box.

Sixtus

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2022 Box, ‘69.
2023 Box, complete ‘73 with ABB for the 50th anniversary.

DaP 41, a returned reel
DaP 42 w/ bonus, two 68 shows on 4 CD’s
DaP 43, 3-9-81
DaP 44, ‘91 this series needs some Bruce.

2022 Record Store Day vinyl, Plangentized/Normanized 6-28-74.

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As usual, I’m feeling what yer dealing, cept 2022 box will be spring 78!

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Oro,
A 6-disc release like Dick’s Picks 5-19,21-77 would work and shouldn’t count as a ‘Box’, just an extra bonus gift from Rhino to the fans.

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Do an Atlanta Box, a survey of all the years.

Include the “Blue Suede Shoes” from the 12-12-73 sound check.

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They are 2 years behind on that one.

Nonplussed about DaP 40. Nice setlists, just hoped for stronger close to a weak year for DaP Series. Hoping Dave was wildly incorrect about that US Blues from 1990 being fitting filler for 41-43. The Subscription video should name 41 and 42.

In brighter news, 10/17/72 is a killer out of the gate, sound problems for the band or not. Got a nice long drive tomorrow for some more, hopefully uninterrupted chance for that Playing.

100% in agreement on that one. Quite a disappointment that it didn't follow 2/27/29 and 2/28/69 a couple of years back.
I also like the idea of the full set of 6/28/74 coming out on vinyl. After the 1969, though. We don't want to distract from that one.

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Does anyone happen to have any artwork scans for these shows?

In the past others have been pretty generous about posting some excellent files.

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As you flip through the excellent book that accompanies this set, you see pics of the actual tickets sold for these shows (as they use on many retrospective tomes on concerts past), and it blows your mind, even when adjusting for inflation and currency value then and now, how inexpensive it was to see a Grate show back then! I didn’t start going to concerts regularly until 73-74, but I remember the number of outstanding performers I’d see for single digit ticket prices, often in 2,500 seaters (I’ve kept many of the ticket stubs). Things didn’t start getting stupid price-wise until the late 70s/early 80s (same thing for sports events), and now - WOW!
Thankfully we have these great box sets to relive the wonderful experience of live shows.
Like prices of houses and cars and anything else now, I feel bad for young folks who just want to see a show, and are forking over triple digits just to sit a thousand rows back. I shake my head.

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JeffSmith has an email blast he sends out after he works out the scans for the shows. Best idea is to get on the list and simply exercise patience. In my experience, it works out really nice. Thanks in advance, Jeff! :-)

P.S. I'm not a Robot. Whew, what a relief!

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Seeing no end in sight yet. From 10/8 until 10/15, delivery was promised. Now it just says USPS will deliver. If it wasn’t for 6 disc Let It Be box, I’d be going nuts by now. Maybe since they didn’t promise delivery today, it will be today?? Sigh……The Long And Winding Road just to Let It Be. Everybody Had A Hard Year indeed.

Music is the Best!!

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Took my bliss filled brain to register it, but they had to bust up the real sequence for the last show - That insane Dark Star-Stella-Eyes-WR Suite that completes the box was actually in the middle of the second set (which eve looking at it on paper now makes total sense). The music on every disc of this box is so damn good - truly premium - so it doesnt matter to me at all. I assume there was a logistical spacing reason. But wondering if that does actualyl bother anyone a bit. I feel like I know a few folks that might grumble at that momentarily before getting back to the blissing. And once more just a mighty grateful Thank You to everyone involved in creating and delivering this set to my ears. This is a gem among gems

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A great, unique show in Amsterdam. Matter of fact, 10/15 and 10/16/81 would make a great DaP, but I doubt the tapes are in the vault.

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"JeffSmith has an email blast he sends out after he works out the scans for the shows. Best idea is to get on the list and simply exercise patience. In my experience, it works out really nice. Thanks in advance, Jeff! :-)"

How do I get on this list?

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I'd say shoot him a PM through the Dead.net message system. JeffSmith

He checks into these boards, so I'll bet you'll get in touch with him sooner than later.

Happy Saturday!

P.S. Feeling for you Mr. Ones. Sending positive vibes. Hopefully that'll help get 'er delivered. Well worth the wait. Just try not to think about it. LOL. Easier said than done!!

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Just noticed online that the RSD release 30th Anniversary of the Jerry Garcia Band LP (5LP's) that was delayed is now ready for release on 3 Dec. It can be ordered at the Garcia site on 20 Oct
Drp out

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Cloudy and rainy today, high temp yesterday was 82, now it’s 57 and dropping.
I hit the grocery store last night and am also stocked up on beer.
Not leaving my house until Monday morning when I have to go to work.

It’s STL Box weekend!

Sound quality is spectacular!
Spinning 10-17-72 now, then will spin 10-19-72 and that will complete my first trip through the Box.
After that I will copy onto a HD, make any necessary edits like correct the track order as Steve pointed out, then convert to various formats to load onto music players and a flash drive for my car. The Box itself will get packed back up and stored inside a plastic crate where it will be protected from light, dust, dog drool, etc.

I know we are spoiled, but a surprise mini-Box release mid-December sure would help get us through winter.
Hint, hint Dave.

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Ice cream kid wins
We all win
This fox box rox my sox way down down by the dox of the city
What do you call a spaced bovine
A nitrous ox
We want no pox nor someone who tox or squwox over the music

All the little extras in the box are cool
Magic envelope
Even something in the big ol' book

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Mine should come Tuesday.. if there is any solace in this, you are not alone in your wait.

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On p. 73 of the LTTR book it gets a shout out and lumped in with June 76 and May 77, so it's really a matter of time before that grouping of shows gets boxed set treatment... :-)

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My sincere thanks to DAVEROCK, JIMINMD, WILFREDTJONES and any one else for commiserating with my box set adventure. Tom Petty was right, the waiting really IS the hardest part. But I got it(3261)!!
I only had time for 12/9/71, sounds fantastic but I have questions. Why a 90 minute first set, and a 40 minute second set?? The book references a smoke bomb in the lobby, but doesn’t confirm the date. Bobby at the end says “that’s all the time there is”.
So, did the show start late?? Was it the smoke bomb?? Did Phil get the runs?? Curiosity gets the best of me. Anyone have an insight??
Doc??

Oh, and just to confirm, Music is the Best!!

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We finally received our Box Set late last week, and are very impressed with the packaging and artwork. Only had a chance to hear the first show so far which sounds great, and so looking forward to hearing the rest of the set soon.

I found it interesting that we ordered this Box Set first thing on the morning it was made available for preorder and ended up receiving number 10,995 out of 13,000. I don’t personally care about the number, but I do find it curious. I know some folks are really into the whole limited edition collectible aspect of these releases, but ultimately for me it’s all about the music and the performances. As I don’t buy these things to resell on EBay; I buy them to enjoy.

Hoping to dig deeper into this over the next few weeks, but judging by the first show it sounds like a great addition to our ever growing Grateful Dead collection.

We all ordered it as soon as it was announced.

The number is printed on the book, not the Box, so you only know what your book number is, and have no information about the production number of your CD’s.
The Boxes are stacked on pallets or in bigger boxes, and workers just grab a Box and slap a shipping label sticker on it and send it on its way.

Someone here a few days ago reported receiving 2 Boxes with consecutive numbers. I bought 2 GSTL Boxes and they were not in consecutive order.

As far as numbers go, the first CD to get pressed will go onto a spindle, and the second CD to get pressed will drop onto the spindle on top of the first CD. The last CD to get pressed would be on top of the stack.
Picture a spindle of 100 blank CD-R’s. I haven’t been to a production facility but imagine that they use spindles that hold 1000 CD’s, maybe more, so there would be many spindles of freshly pressed CD’s for 13,000 copies of a 20-CD Box.
So, the CD on top of the last spindle was the last one to be pressed. It then gets picked up off the spindle and placed in a CD holder that goes into the Box with book 00001/13,000.
The person who gets book #1 gets CD #13,000.
The person who gets book #13,000, gets CD#1.

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Before each release I wait pensively and alert by PC, a practice I started in 93 with the release of One From the Vault. I am obsessive about ordering exactly as these items go on sale. I have not missed a release and all my boxes are #1 of xxxxx except for Dave's Picks 2 where I am #2 of 12,000 (I had a cold that day).

This proves they religiously go through the orders and make sure our limited edition number corresponds with the who ordered first, etc.

Na.. just kidding. I always order the first day and have yet to get a decent number. It's all completely random and like Cone Kid says.. buy the time these boxes begin to leave the warehouse they have been stacked and unstacked several times, first stacked often equals last unstacked, etc. If you put something on the bottom of a palate, you are not going to pull out that bottom box first.. or wait, that might explain some of the customer service problems of releases past....

Happy days.. this is an epic box set with monster good shows that I have been waiting for since I first laid ears on these tapes many years ago. This is one of the great ones.. and I am hoping to get mine Tuesday.. And I better get #1 this time or I'm gonna storm the vault, who's with me?

Crap.. less of a happy day than I thought. So much for the Jerry Garcia Band reunion tour...

On the bright side.. Jerry and Elvis can finally jam together upstairs. Queueing up That's Alright Mama on three.

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I think their tuning up as we speak:
Garcia
Kahn
Tutt
Saunders, Godchaux and Hopkins
with special guest for eternity only! Elvis!

Indeed. A sad day with Ron's passing. A part of so much great music, he brought so much joy into the world, and still is, even after he is gone.

As for the Box. I am loving it so far. I usually listen to a box straight through to make sure there are no skips, but I am having trouble doing that this time. The '71s were so good I had to listen to them twice. Ditto the first '72. I listened to the other two '72s, but with half an ear. Going back through them now more attentively. At the Playin' sandwich. :)

Only thing negative is that there are a LOT of repeats. Makes it a tad harder to listen to the whole box straight through. But the individual shows will get pulled constantly, I suspect.

Conversely, I quite like the fact that the same songs crop up across the three years. It does give a sense of how the same line up approached the same material with different accents. Granted, there not be much to learn from listening to the 6 versions of Casey Jones on the run, should you be tempted to do so. But I like the fact that we have three "Truckin'-Drums-Other Ones" from each of the three years. Great ominous intro to "The Other One" on 10/19/72.
I am going through the shows chronologically, and am currently on the first 1973 show. I was going to have a break between years - but its hard to pull away. I may go to Paris 1974 from 30 Trips after I have passed through the last one, and then go back to the beginning again.

Jim- seems hard to figure why you haven't got yours yet, when mine arrived in England 8 days ago. Not trying to worry you, or anything!

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Keep us updated and what you think once you get it.

My guess is overseas folks receive theirs earlier sometimes because the warehouse ships out international orders first.

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I'm happy to see the kind folks overseas get theirs first for a change. It had gotten really bad a couple years ago to the point where I had hedonistic guilt from the conflict of my pleasure vs. the displeasure of it taking months to float across the pond. I am happy to see them address this. Besides.. these shows are not strangers to me, I will be happy and content when the box arrives.

I think by now we all have a standard listening procedure for these releases. Mine is to rip the CDs and read as much of the liner notes as I can.. then transfer it to my digital world and I hope to listen to music either after or concurrent with digesting all the liner notes. For a big box like this, it can take a week or two, perhaps three. I like that people are giving many of these shows multiple listens. Gives me hope, a great anticipation builder.

Speaking of hope, I sure hope this is not the last great box set... but knowing what's out there and what has been released over the last 15 years or so.. we sure have cranked through some spectacular classics. My glass is more than half full, it's filled up to the rim. We have some classic music to carry us through old age and into a blissful senility. I'm very grateful.

Hit the Giants box in sequence over the weekend both because I was in the mood and to create more pent up demand or '71 through '73, my sweet spot. When it arrives I will be ready. Life is good.. Going to hit a Ron Tutt GD show today.. perhaps Sophies??

Keep up the good vibes and keep telling us what you hear from these shows.

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Hey Y'all, While I was in Dallas for Dead & Co my box arrived. I am back now, but will be leaving Thursday for D&Co's Fiddler's Green shows in Colorado (got shut out for Red Rocks) – not sure if I'll have time to scan and work on the cover art from this box before I leave, but I might. If you're not already receiving cover art scans from me and would like to, send me your email address and I'll add you to my list: jgs@archstglassinc.com

Sorry for the delay.

The music in this killer box is what we all come here for! Onward.

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I think once deadnet's options get less for box set releases, they will release complete Grateful Dead runs like Oct. Winterland 1974, Fillmore East April 1971, since some of this stuff has already been released they will wait to release these in their entirety untill the well runs dry. I also think they could remaster and rerelease some of the cool Dick's Picks when times start getting tight. I would love to have 2/13 & 14/70 remastered and released as complete shows.

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Jim,
If your glass is full to the rim, grab another glass with your other hand.

Keep the releases coming Dave/Rhino.

A Winterland March and December ‘77 Box would be quite nice.
And what about that Ark ‘69 Box?

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The 71 and 72 shows are sounding fantastic so far.
I put on 10/29/73 this morning and it is not sounding as good as the 71 and 72 shows. The levels appear to be too low, audience patch for El Paso.
It doesn't seem like we are getting all the band?
Would be interested if any others are hearing the same thing on this show?

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The sound may not be as deep on this show as the ones form 1971 and 1972. It doesn't quite have that 3D effect that someone on here referred to for the earlier shows. There also may be an audience patch on the beginning of Around and Around.
On the other hand, I think Jerry's guitar may come through a bit louder and clearer on this show than on the earlier ones. And it sounds superb. During 1971 and 1972 I frequently found my ears focussing on Phil and Bob's playing more than than Jerry's. Not all the way through-but often. On 10/29/73, I have noticed Phil and Bob less, and Jerry and Keith more. And they are really rocking.

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I've mentioned this gem a few times in the past and wonder if this spectacular show is in the dead archives. If you check out the set list on archive.org, you will se its almost perfect set list. Check out this estimated/eyes you will see what I mean. This was the tape that got me on the bus.

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Was able to squeak out disc 1 on on my evening bike ride. It sounds great. I'm mid rip.

I decided to stream Phil tonight. They sound great. Phil & Chill.

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Good to hear Jim. Enjoy it. I am still working my way through it.

Looking forward to your thoughts.

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....yup. I happens. Rather than succumb to the sin of gluttony, going to go check out Halloween Kills at the ole theater.
'Tis the season.

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50 years ago today…..

October 19, 1971
Northrop Auditorium, University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, Minnesota

Set 1: Bertha-Me And My Uncle-Sugaree-Beat It On Down The Line-Cumberland Blues-Tennessee Jed-Black Peter-Jack Straw-Big Railroad Blues-Brown-Eyed Women-Mexicali Blues-Comes A Time-Playing In The Band-One More Saturday Night-Casey Jones

Set 2: Truckin'-Ramble On Rose-Me And Bobby McGee-Brokedown Palace-Cryptical Envelopment>drums>The Other One>Cryptical Envelopment reprise>Wharf Rat-Sugar Magnolia-Uncle John's Band-Not Fade Away>Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad>Not Fade Away

Deadicated to jiminMD, dantian, kayakguy, spacebrother, icecrmckd, Sixtus, Jack Baller, Billythekid, alvarhanso, and angry jack straw, because change……….

The second great seismic shift of 1971. The Yang to the Yin of February 18. Similar, yet different. Old, yet new. A vision of the new era. Change can be for good if you combine audacity with safety………

An old friend missing, a new guy who seems to fit in right away. Six new songs. The return of the complete CE/TOO/CE suite. The unusual occurrence of back-to-back Garcia songs twice in the first set. The first of the Fall 1971 FM broadcasts. One of only two 1971 shows that featured both Black Peter and Brokedown Palace. There ain’t no grease, but there’s plenty of Bakersfield left, as well as big jams.

Not without its rough edges, yet somehow it hangs together oh so well. Absolutely historic and worthy of a serious listen……

Rock on!!

Doc
He who rejects change is the architect of decay, the only human institution which rejects progress is the cemetery………

Carlo, indeed you had turned me on to this show some time back; I was quite surprised to see 'Billerica' as the locale, I mean, of all the unknown places in Ma....

The setlist is sick, and I recall listening to it and the auds were decent. I am going to do this again today for a re-acquaintance.

Thanks Doc for the shout out today; I've always enjoyed today's 71'er with that rippin second set sequence. Epochal change, none can resist.

Jimmy, glad you finally received The Box. Passenger pigeons eventually find their way when hitchhiking, as the saying goes; amirite?

Be Well People!
Sixtus

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