Dave's Picks Vol. 40: Deer Creek Music Center, Noblesville, IN 7/18/90 & 7/19/90

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18,000 happy Dead Heads could not be wrong. Deer Creek, my how you deliver.

We're closing the books on DAVE'S PICKS 2021 with not one but two - nearly - complete shows from Noblesville, IN 7/18/90 & 7/19/90. Yes, we've packed it all on four CDs, save for that second night encore which we promise you'll get to hear in the very near future. Sometimes there really is just too much good stuff.

For now, we'll invite you to cozy up with two exceptional back-to-back shows, shows with precision and clarity, shows with more than a lion's share of exploratory jams, and most importantly, shows that were simply a damn good time for all. Highlights from night one include the bookends of a spectacular "Help>Slip!>Franklin's" and an epically intricate "Morning Dew" followed by a classic cover of "The Weight." Night two, is the sleeper hit, with flawless playing from start to finish, the set list inviting you to find new favorites in top-notch renditions of "Foolish Heart" or "Victim Or The Crime," and if that's not one of the finest versions of "Desolation Row" Bobby ever did do! We would be remiss if we didn't mention that these shows were among Brent's last and they are some of his finest of the era at that.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL. 40: DEER CREEK MUSIC CENTER, NOBLESVILLE, IN 7/18 & 19/90 was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

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November 3, 2021 - 9:19pm

#741

jawn

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Deer Creek 90

Listen to the performances on this frickn masterpiece my gawd!!! Althea is STUNNING! Promised Land is also one for the ages. This was when Jack Straw was Jack Straw, just ripping (minus a minor vocal flub that Bobby acknowledged :) US Blues is also one for ages but unfortunately not included. Desolation Row oh my gaaaawd if that's not one of Weir's best performances I don't know what is. I've always been partial to the second night as I was lucky enough to have patched into to a kind taper's Nakamichi shotguns and just think it's the better of the two shows.

First night I distinctly remeber starting the clapping during Morning Dew, yup that was me, probably pissed some old heads off, but many others joined in. Help>Slip>Franklin's ALWAYS a joy. China>Rider is in my top 5 of GD tunes and Brent is going crazy during the transition but this is not my favorite version (please see 8-4-89 Cincy, front row center from GDTS certainly didn't hurt!) As most know, Brent passed just a couple weeks later RIP BRENT. Terrapin was played smoothly and powerfully. The Weight had minor vocal flubs too but is really special to me -- first and only time I heard the GD do it and just a special tune.

Jumping around a bit but Playin' from night two holy McCoy that is the real deal! UJB is quite possibly my favorite all-time GD tune and this one is performed well (minor vocal flub by Jer Bear in second verse). The vocals these two shows were just beautiful.

On the Dave's Pick version, the clarity and separation of all the instruments, guitar interplay, and definition of Brent's keyboards is unbelievable how it brings it forth better than old audience recordings. My transfers from analog to digital of 7-19-90 have survived but this release is on another level. Thank you Dave and GD (~):} ! Only other complaint is the digipak as I'd prefer regular quad plastic jewel case. But super fast shipping and receiving for this custie Touch Head and I'd gladly do it again!
November 3, 2021 - 5:01pm

#742

casinodead1

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Spectrum Philly

Similar tunes and lots if different songs here too. April 6, 7. 8, 1985. Always looking for a release of these shows too.
November 3, 2021 - 4:02pm

#743

That Mike

Joined:
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All The Young Dudes

DaveRock - We had a friend in high school that was really hip to music we didn’t know - he was the guy that got me into the Dead, along with Byrds, Burritos, etc etc - and he got us in our group to listen to Mott. I remember Ian Hunter was a great showman, good with the crowd, and Morgan Fisher was on keys, along with Overend and Buffin. They were pretty hot shit then, touring in support of “Mott”. A great show, although the crowd was all Glam, and we were a bunch of hippie high school kids in jeans and long hair.

Sounds like you saw some great “splinter” acts from Mott! Ronson was an underrated guitarist, and producer (Roger McGuinn). Bowie was lucky to have him.

PS - “… more blues rock crunch than chocolate box psych.”. The Best line I’ve read in a long time!! Haha!
November 3, 2021 - 3:42pm

#744

Oroborous

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What about

De pressure drop Mon?
November 3, 2021 - 3:12pm

#745

Vguy72

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Dropping......acid?

....sorry. I'm new here.
November 3, 2021 - 2:10pm

#746

Slow Dog Noodle

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Crow Told Me

What about balls?
November 3, 2021 - 1:45pm

#747

icecrmcnkd

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Audio and Audience

The vocal echoes were intentionally done by Healy. He did that frequently and rumor has it that messing with Bob’s vocals is one of the reasons that Healy was fired.

Crowd noise between songs was added so that there wasn’t silence. Dave states this in the seaside chat.
November 3, 2021 - 12:06pm

#748

L. Mo.

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Maybe if you didn't leave 3…

Maybe if you didn't leave 3 minutes of the crowd clapping and chanting "You know our love will not fade away", you could have fit the encore.
November 3, 2021 - 12:03pm

#749

daverock

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Luther Grosvenor

That Mike - congratulations on seeing Mott The Hoople in the 70s - something I missed out on. I had a ticket to see them in 1974-Queen were the support band - but it was cancelled. I did see Hunter/ Ronson circa 1975, and then, this century, two celebratory shows by Mott - one with the original lineup( minus Buffin) and one with Luther Grosvenor on guitar. Both great nights.

Incidentally, a great album worth checking out with Luther on is "Supernatural Fairy Tales" by Art from 1967. Same band as Spooky Tooth before the name change. An album with a beautiful psychedelic cover, which disguises the muscular nature of the music - which is more blues rock crunch than chocolate box psych.
November 3, 2021 - 10:31am

#750

Crow Told Me

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I’ll Take ‘Things That Drop’ for $100, Alex!

Let’s see, we’ve got drop tuning, drop biscuits, drop cloths, drop dead gorgeous babes, the Dew Drop Inn, drop leaf tables, drop off laundry, drop kicks, mic drops, and drop zones. Seems like I’m missing something?

Regarding audio on DaP 40, I’ve only listened to the first two discs, but there is indeed a fair amount of audience noise that filters in occasionally. Which is No Big Deal, just tends to remind the listener that they were playing a big venue. More bothersome to me (but still no big deal) is this weird echo that happens with the vocals at several points. No idea how you’d get that. This was an outdoor venue, right, so it’s not an echo off the back wall?

Just to be clear: the audio quality overall is very good, and this is NOT meant as a gripe, just an observation about an oddity in this recording.

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18,000 happy Dead Heads could not be wrong. Deer Creek, my how you deliver.

We're closing the books on DAVE'S PICKS 2021 with not one but two - nearly - complete shows from Noblesville, IN 7/18/90 & 7/19/90. Yes, we've packed it all on four CDs, save for that second night encore which we promise you'll get to hear in the very near future. Sometimes there really is just too much good stuff.

For now, we'll invite you to cozy up with two exceptional back-to-back shows, shows with precision and clarity, shows with more than a lion's share of exploratory jams, and most importantly, shows that were simply a damn good time for all. Highlights from night one include the bookends of a spectacular "Help>Slip!>Franklin's" and an epically intricate "Morning Dew" followed by a classic cover of "The Weight." Night two, is the sleeper hit, with flawless playing from start to finish, the set list inviting you to find new favorites in top-notch renditions of "Foolish Heart" or "Victim Or The Crime," and if that's not one of the finest versions of "Desolation Row" Bobby ever did do! We would be remiss if we didn't mention that these shows were among Brent's last and they are some of his finest of the era at that.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL. 40: DEER CREEK MUSIC CENTER, NOBLESVILLE, IN 7/18 & 19/90 was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

Set lists?

I'll admit that I'm always late to the party, but has someone already asked why the set lists aren't listed above in the usual manner? I've looked them up of course courtesy of Mr. Google, but I prefer to be able to quickly jump to the lists on this site when someone here mentions a specific song or sequence of songs.

Dark Star -> Victim -> Dark Star -> Death Don't....

....sounds groovy. And potentially dangerous.

would love to see the setlist on this release.

So is it one complete show and most of the other night or Two incomplete shows? They mention its almost complete. So what do you leave off?
Subscription offer for 2022 should be soon.

Friar Park

This is 10 minutes down the road from where i live. I regularly go past the gates but have never been the other side. If Jiminmd pops over my way I'm sure Olivia could be 'persuaded' to sell up

Heaven finds an ear when sinners find a tongue…..

50 years ago today…..

October 22, 1971
Auditorium Theater, Chicago, Illinois

Set 1: Bertha-Me and My Uncle-Tennessee Jed-Jack Straw-Loser-Playing in the Band-Sugaree-Beat It On Down the Line-Black Peter-Mexicali Blues-Cold Rain and Snow-Me and Bobby McGee-Comes a Time-One More Saturday Night

Set 2: Ramble On Rose-Cumberland Blues-That's It for the Other One>Deal-Sugar Magnolia-Casey Jones-Johnny B. Goode

Deadicated to Gainesville, leedesj, drpryan, andoverdeadhead, estimated-eyes, fourwindsblow, Thin, JeffSmith, DeadVikes, and Mr. Ones, because why not?

As writers and readers, as sinners and citizens, our realism and our aesthetic sense make us wary of crediting the positive note……

No wariness here. This is a relatively unknown but very positive show. A show of apparent contrasts---a solid, fourteen song first set, followed by a seemingly short second set…..

However, with that being said, if you’d like to hear a really fine late 71 Other One, here you go!!

LOL, one of my October 71 guilty pleasures. The other, we’ll discuss on the 29th……….

Rock on!!!

Doc
Many of the insights of the saint stem from their experience as sinners…..

wissinomingdeadhead

5/5/78 was shared in it's entirety back when Taper's Section permitted downloading. So, the 1st set board does indeed float about. Alas, they were 192 kbps mp3s.

-edit- Oh, you really mean actual tape! I see it's on archive already, too. haha lol

What they left off

US Blues encore from 2nd night.

I always thought Victim was a cool song. Caught one of the early versions at Buckeye Lake in 1988. The crowd reaction was priceless. This song actually frightened people. Not every song has to be light and joyful like Sugar Magnolia or Touch of Grey. It was dark and sinister and was a great point of tension and release in the setlist show pacing.

The only songs I never really warmed up to were Wave To The Wind, I Fought The Law (I caught the 1st and it was the booby prize of the cancelled 1st night blizzard show) and Samba In The Rain which Jerry never nailed.

Re: Friar Park

I'm on my way. Please tell Olivia I should make tea time and I'm interested in one or more of her garden gnomes.

Honestly.. after reading up, this has got to be one of the coolest places.

Edit: Oh, tell her not to worry, I am fully vaxed and quite harmless. :D

Surprised? Kinda?

Was over at the Jerry site and surprised that the JGB album being released in vinyl isn't sold out yet. I KNOW if I got up at 5 in the morning to stand in line on RSD, it be sold out by the time I got to the front of the line!!

I really need to see how the "box set is wrapped with textured paper". What could that texture be???

Textured Paper

I don't know.. I plan to study it then lick one of the corners.. then wait an hour and see what happens.

Didn't they release this on 180 gram already like 5 or 6 years ago or something?

no, but it was released on 180 micrograms vinyl

nyuk, nyuk

Ha.. Didn't see that one coming

So this puppy should hit our mailboxes in a week and a half give or take?? I am not sure whether I have given these a listen before or not.

Let It Be….Tattoo You

One is a pathetic ripoff the other, the boys making up for lost cash with an ok presentation
Sorry as Mick said in ‘89 when Bill left “ oh if Charlie left that would be the end “

.

Detroit turned out to be heaven…..

50 years ago today…..

October 23, 1971
Eastown Theater, Detroit, Michigan

Set 1: Bertha-Playing In The Band-Loser-Mexicali Blues-Sugaree-Jack Straw-Big Railroad Blues-El Paso-Ramble On Rose-Me And Bobby McGee-Cumberland Blues-Brokedown Palace-One More Saturday Night

Set 2: Casey Jones-Me And My Uncle-Tennessee Jed-Sugar Magnolia-Comes A Time-Truckin'-Brown-Eyed Women-Not Fade Away>Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad>Not Fade Away

This is deadicated to Jay Carstens…..

“The word tonight is easy going, you know how it is………….”

And easy going it was. While there’s no “big jam”, it’s still a fine and enjoyable show. The new material is nicely on display, a very Bakersfield kind of show, relatively unknown and underappreciated, definitely worthy of a listen, and with no hint of what would be unleashed the following evening……

Rock on!!

Doc
…..but it also turned out to be hell……

Tattoo You 40th

I was at the live show included . They were going even faster than I was. Bit frigging expensive, though.

Talk about a buzz kill

I ordered the 10 lp collection of Joni Mitchell's archive set. Suppose to come around end of month. Got an email pushed back to 2/15/22,,, okay. Yesterday I get an email saying it has been shipped,,,, wow i think. Then I examine the email closer,,,, not the lp's coming but 7x7 inch poster which comes with the box set!!!

Really,,, they're doing a separate mailing for the "art print"!!!!!

You just have to shake your head at somethings that happen :-)

But Jerry is still on track!!! (they had the textured paper in stock)

tat in a box

I do love a box set, but some of them do include an awful lot of tat. Art prints, posters-worst of all fascimiles of tickets from long gone gigs you never went to. I'm not 15 years old for chrissake. No disrespect intended to 15 year olds who may be reading
And not meaning necessarily to diss you're art print, Dennis, which might be an exception to the rule.

Tracking number received

Delivery by UPS Mail Innovations PS LW.

tracking number received

tried it, says it is the wrong numb er and to get in touch with the sender, so, ..... when will this be shipped? when was it suppose to be shipped? is there shipping going on in here, shipping I say shipping so shipping is by ups not usps, will it be delivered to my mail box or to front door? just wondering if I will ever see this release.

Icecrmkn kd

Did you get a shipping notice from dead.net or a UPS notification?

Shipping notice was from GD Store

My UPS account recognizes the tracking number but says “details not yet available”.

Cool thanks

Thanks for the info!

The skull is nature's sculpture…….

50 years ago today………….

Skullfuck aka The Skull Album aka Skull & Roses was released………..

Bertha [4/27/71]-Mama Tried [4/26/71]-Big Railroad Blues [4/5/71]-Playing In The Band [4/6/71]-The Other One [4/28/71]-Me & My Uncle [4/29/71]-Big Boss Man [4/26/71]-Me & Bobby McGee [4/27/71]-Johnny B. Goode [3/24/71]-Wharf Rat [4/26/71]-Not Fade Away/Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad [4/5/71]

The expanded version released in 2003 includes “Oh Boy” and “Hog For You Baby” from the Manhattan Center show of April 6, 1971, as well as a short radio spot. Organ overdubs performed by Merl Saunders were used on Bertha, Playing In The Band, and Wharf Rat. Recording by Betty Cantor and Bob Matthews, artwork by Alton Kelly, photography by Bob Seidemann. It was the first Grateful Dead album to be certified “Gold” by the RIAA.

IMHO, a very fine live album, which we loved dearly and played the ever-loving sh*t out of. But, as fine as it was and is, could it have been better? Maybe. Could’ve done without the drum solo. Why no Hard To Handle? Where was the Morning Dew? And could you imagine IF this has been a 3 record set? That would have been crazy, man, crazy!!!!

A remastered 50th anniversary edition was released on June 25, 2021. It did not include the bonus tracks that were found on the 2003 re-issue. However, it did include a bonus disc with material from the July 2, 1971 Fillmore West show. GREAT BIG THANKS!!!

This was the first 1971 live Dead we ever heard, and it sounded mighty fine! And yes, rockers, I still listen to it, it’s been part of the soundtrack to my entire adult life…………

Rock on!!

Doc
Erudition - dust shaken out of a book into an empty skull…..

Too low they build, who build beneath the stars……

50 years ago today…..

October 24, 1971
Eastown Theater, Detroit, Michigan

Set 1: Sugar Magnolia-Deal-El Paso-Tennessee Jed-Jack Straw-China Cat Sunflower>I Know You Rider-Playing In The Band-Black Peter-Candyman-One More Saturday Night-Casey Jones

Set 2: Truckin'-Ramble On Rose-Mexicali Blues-Dark Star>Me And Bobby McGee-Cumberland Blues-St. Stephen-Johnny B. Goode

Deadicated to FLH, DarklordBerto, dewajack, docmarty, m-skjellyfetti, Cousins Of The Pioneers, simonrob, lycanthrope51, snafu, and otheronerat, because it was a day of rest……..

Super rare Sugar Mags to kick it off. Fine mid first set China/Rider. Unusual, two back-to-back Garcia songs in the first set. Solid Truckin’ to open the second set. Excellent 71 Dark Star, possibly Latvala’s favorite of the year (10/24/71 Dark Star: Killer. “He loved this Dark Star and thought it was out of place for 1971, feeling more like 1969.”).

You don’t hear a lot about this show, but there’s certainly a lot to like here…….

What is the good of your stars and trees, your sunrise and the wind, if they do not enter into our daily lives?

Rock on!!

Doc
And he that strives to touch the stars,
Oft stumbles at a straw…..

Doc/Skull & Roses

Doc, I agree with you, it is really a great live album. I wish they would have included a version of Easy Wind. Like you say, a third album added to the release would have been great.

Last Five because it's been a while....

The Police - Synchronicity
GOGD - 10.29.73 Kiel
Trivium - In The Court Of The Dragon
The Beastie Boys - Paul's Boutique
Phish - 10.23.21 Ak-Chin Pavilion. Phoenix, AZ

Most recent 5

10 17 72
Yes Relayer
Motorhead Sacrifice
10 22 71
Cramps Psychedelic Jungle

I love to play the games here

Last 5:
John Coltrane-A Love Supreme-Live In Seattle
Shawn Phillips-Second Contribution
Pink Floyd-The Wall
Paul McCartney-Run Devil Run
10/18/72

Hadn’t played The Wall front to back in ages. Still enjoyable. Not ready for Dave’s 40, I have 1 more 72 show, and 2 ‘73’s yet to go.

Music is Life!!

Last 5

Argent Encore
Gentle Giant Playing the Fool
Grateful Dead SSDD (CD)
Yes Time & A Word
Pink Floyd Animals

Last 5

I like these - so here's mine

Complete Motown Singles 1967 - cd36 Various
Psychedelic Soul The Temptations
Starday Custom Series cd3 Various
Live in Vancouver 11/5/2000 The Cramps
Michigan Box 1950s and 1960s Oddball Labels cd3 Various

Last Dead was Live in Paris 9/18/74 on Saturday.

DP '22

I predict today will be the announcement for early bird pricing & the show will be 5/26/77, of course I could be wrong. Next Monday is November first which means 30 Days of November starts.

Last 5

8-4-76 Roosevelt Stadium
Led Zep - IV
Lynyrd Skynyrd - Pronounced
Ace - An Ace Album
5-17-77 - Tuscaloosa

Paul Carrack of Ace, Mike & The Mechanics, others? Great vocalist. I think he won a Grammy or two.

Maybe old news to most, but,,,

Heard this guy last night James Booker. Piano player, never heard of him,,, did a cover of Eleanor Rigby,,, great.

Anyone out there know his work and maybe have a good collection of it,,,, I'd take some if available.

Last 5

St Louis Box
Zappa Little Dots
Zappa’s Last U S show ‘ 88
JGB w Clarence Clemons
Tattoo You box
The new Dead box was fun I’m going back for another run

For me, just found...

.... maybe most have heard.

Jerry Garcia playing with James Booker.

Very, Very Nice.

do a search for 'James Booker with Jerry Garcia - Slowly But Surely'

anyone have this rehearsal practice?

Shipping?

Anyone else get a shipping notification? I’m still waiting for mine…….

Anyone? Anyone?

Last Five

First time playing this game:

GD: 10/29/73

The Ronnie Wood Band: Mr. Luck

The Flatlanders: Treasure of Love

George Harrison: All Things Must Pass 50th

Paul Kantner/Jefferson Starship: Blows Against the Empire

Last ?

Been pretty burned out on Dead, but managed to get Docs 10/71 shows in.
Letting the box sit for a bit before we have at again…

Been listening to a lot of jazz.
Have 3 Bill Evans albums I never really checked out, now our new regular go to picks!
Also some Soul Jazz; mix of Idris Muhammad, and a mix of Grover Washington jr.
Kind of a blur?… Coltrane Live at Birdland, Tribute to Jack Johnson, Cannonball Adderley Something Else, Dexter Gordon Go, Round Midnight Soundtrack, too many to remember? McCoy Tyner, Charles Mingus, Charlie Hunter, Horace Silver…?

Really looking forward to 40 for something completely different!

adedhed

I would give it until Wednesday, then notify marye.

the electronic mice might have chewed into your order.

Thanks Proudfoot

Thanks man. You’re right, it’s the Gremlins

Last 5

Guided by Voices - Propeller
Gary Burton Quartet and Eberhard Weber - Passengers
Millie Jackson - It Hurts So Good
Old time music at Clarence Ashley's Vol 2
Dave's Picks 38 - Sept. 73

Good weekend mix. Looking forward to Dave's 40 - maybe next weekend?

5 Guys Not Named Moe

King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard: I’m in Your Mind Fuzz
The Meters: Gettin’ Funkier All the Time
Grateful Dead: 12/10/71 from StL box
Roy Hargrove: The Vibe
Colin Davis/Dresden: Berlioz Overtures

Who’s the greatest band around, makes the cats jump up and down?

Last 5

Don Leady - Cumbia meets the blues
The Jimmie Vaughan story
Evan Johns - Panoramic life
Freda and the Firedogs
The Cobras - Live & deadly

Last 5

First time trying this out as well

The Blues Brothers - Briefcase Full of Blues
Wilson Pickett - Hey Jude
The Equatics - Doin' It!!!
Grateful Dead - 9/18/90 Bonus Disc
The Police - Reggatta De Blanc

Still waiting on a shipping confirmation for DaP 40 - I've noticed that I usually get my tracking # around the day of the official release which is a bit disappointing but I assume it's because the SF Bay Area is much closer to the warehouses in SoCal and as such they prioritize orders from further away. Hope to receive it soon and hope everyone's having a great start to their week :)

5 spot

GD 10-18-72
Manuel Ponce 3 Preludes
Villa-Lobos Prelude No. 3
Antonio Vivaldi Concerto in D Major for Guitar
J.S. Bach Chaconne BWV 1004 (Segovia Transcription)

Last 5

GD 10-19-72
Lynyrd Skynyrd 8-21-76
GD 10-17-72
Steve Miller 8-3-77
GD 12-10-71

GD 10-30-73 is playing now.

1/15/79 Springfield "Space"

Anyone ever listen to the Charlie Miller Audience tape.... "Space" out of drums and into Playing has the funkiest 8 minute infectious, feet tapping jam i have ever heard.... Not deep space or jazzy... doesn't sound like anything else to compare it to.... calypso feeling... bob t

Last 5

GD 9/2/83 2nd disk great.
David allen Coe
Sabbath bloody sabbath
Ozzy-live speak of the devil
Arlo Guthrie-Woodstock.
Bonus- criterion-the complete Monterey pop festival.

Next Dave's

Comes with a bonus disc, right? If so, I'm going with 10-2-77, paired with 10-1. Should be able to get most of 10-1, too as 10-2 is a shorter gig. Being 1977, it'll attract a lot of folks to subscribe. That said, we are overdue for some 1969.

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