Dave's Picks Vol. 40: Deer Creek Music Center, Noblesville, IN 7/18/90 & 7/19/90

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18,000 happy Dead Heads could not be wrong. Deer Creek, my how you deliver.

We're closing the books on DAVE'S PICKS 2021 with not one but two - nearly - complete shows from Noblesville, IN 7/18/90 & 7/19/90. Yes, we've packed it all on four CDs, save for that second night encore which we promise you'll get to hear in the very near future. Sometimes there really is just too much good stuff.

For now, we'll invite you to cozy up with two exceptional back-to-back shows, shows with precision and clarity, shows with more than a lion's share of exploratory jams, and most importantly, shows that were simply a damn good time for all. Highlights from night one include the bookends of a spectacular "Help>Slip!>Franklin's" and an epically intricate "Morning Dew" followed by a classic cover of "The Weight." Night two, is the sleeper hit, with flawless playing from start to finish, the set list inviting you to find new favorites in top-notch renditions of "Foolish Heart" or "Victim Or The Crime," and if that's not one of the finest versions of "Desolation Row" Bobby ever did do! We would be remiss if we didn't mention that these shows were among Brent's last and they are some of his finest of the era at that.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL. 40: DEER CREEK MUSIC CENTER, NOBLESVILLE, IN 7/18 & 19/90 was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

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November 2, 2021 - 5:06pm

#761

LedDed

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10,337 reasons why I love the Grateful Dead

Because #10,337/25,000 is playing now. It arrived yesterday but - GASP! - I waited until tonight to rip and listen because we had people over who aren't really musos. I know, letting riff raff like that into the house... blame my wife.

After indulging in that last box set from St. Louis, then seeing Dead & Co. on the Rocks last month, and now this two-show set arriving, I realize how much I like to mix up all the eras to keep the ears fresh. Dave does a masterful job of era surfing. I know he can't please everyone, but I have zero complaints about this series from day one.

30 days of Dead is a nice little pre-holiday gift every year as the days get shorter and the nights get longer.

I lined a basement wall with bookshelves, each of them different sizes and styles. I picked them all up used off Craigslist or whatever when we moved in here, I said, that wall in the basement will be my wall of sound. There's dozens of rock and roll books and cds and music dvds, blu ray etc. Box sets are stacked along the top along with Germanic beer steins, old absinthe bottles, decorative skulls, signed baseballs, and other random tchotchkes. My guitar cases and amps fill a hallway next to them, with two full stage racks of electrics lining another wall.

The cd's only get played on a boombox when I work out on Sunday mornings or in the garage when performing some manly task... the rest of the time all that shit just sits there, except for the guitars. My kids are getting older and moving their scene down into the basement gradually, trying to bust in on my space. I worry about their idiot friends getting their hands all over my shit but haven't been into boxing it up or anything. I guess we'll see how that plays itself out.

Never had enough vinyl to fill up more than a couple of old fruit crates (thank God) or I'd need a storage locker.

Out in the garage there still remains an old hard-sided suitcase that looks like something out of Kerouac, filled up with unboxed cassettes and 45 rpm singles. My last friend with a cassette player in his car has finally moved on to a smoother ride, so it looks like those cassettes are headed to the grave at long last.

Last 5:

Rolling Stones - Tattoo You Deluxe cd (none of the 'new' songs are worth a shit, but the original lp remains a classic)
Grateful Dead - Dave's Picks 40 (show one, as bad as Brent looked he still sounds great)
Dire Straits - Love Over Gold (more people need to make that choice)
Various Artists - The Metallica Blacklist (eclectic as fuck and not half bad)
Elle King - Love Stuff (Sassy!)

\m/
November 2, 2021 - 4:56pm

#762

icecrmcnkd

Joined:
October 20, 2015

Storage

My CD rack was getting full when the DaP series started. That rack now holds DVDs, Blurays, and non-GD CDs.
GD CDs are all stored in plastic storage boxes where they are protected from sun, dust, dog drool, etc.

Music files on HDs are in chronological order and in AIFF, ALAC, FLAC, and AAC formats; backed up extensively.
ALAC files are played in the living room from an iBasso DX120 connected to the stereo.
AAC files at 320 kbs are played in the car from a USB drive.

Vinyl is stored in tie-dyed Victrola record storage cases.
Interesting fact: when I was buying the Victrola storage cases (I have 7 currently) there where a lot of different colors and patterns, and tie-dye was the lowest price. Score!
I think that most people don’t want tie-dye. All the more for me.
November 2, 2021 - 4:33pm

#763

carlo13

Joined:
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#3021 - dr.demento

I just opened the mailbox and what do you know, dap 40. The first disk is sounding good. Thismikebenz, yes it dr.demento. He is now 80 yo and still kicking. I just bought his book on great blues players of all time. He was a big blues fan. He writes about leadbelly, srv, blind lemon, and others. The book came out in 2000 and he signed it twice with his real name Barry hansen and dr.D.. The book was also a rhino release. For twenty clams you can get one on his site. Good quality paperback too.
November 2, 2021 - 4:11pm

#764

Crow Told Me

Joined:
October 15, 2020

The Dream of the '90s is Alive ...

... in Deer Creek!

Just received #40, listened to the first two discs. A really good show! Enough so that I feel I've probably been missing out by not listening to more 1990.

I think I'm always going to prefer the early '70s, when they were still playing theaters rather than arenas: I always get the feeling, with these really big shows, that the Dead feel obligated to keep things moving and deliver a rockin' good time, whether they feel like it or not, and I kind of prefer the more intimate feel of smaller places where they seem like they felt they could just relax and play whatever.

You can hear a little bit of what I mean at the end of disc one of this set, when they do the final a cappella chorus of 'Rider.' In a lot of the best (IMO) versions, they take the dynamic way down at that point, sometimes slowing the tempo, and sing it quietly and kind of wistfully before they bring the volume back up for the final chords. In this case, it sounds like they were thinking of doing that, but then the crowd was hooting and stomping so loud they can't slow down or ease up. But it still winds up being a pretty good China-Rider.

Seems like a very welcome addition to the collection, and I haven't even listened to discs 3 & 4 yet, which are supposed to be the better show! Clearly, I need to rethink my bias against the '90s.
November 2, 2021 - 3:10pm

#765

nitecat

Joined:
November 1, 2010

Shelving or lack thereof...

10213 arrived right on time today! Looking forward to listening.

I'm really impressed with different approaches to shelving. I proudly display on my office shelf Dead by order of release for DP, DaP, Road Trips and Garcia releases. Box sets are displayed on the office shelves wherever they fit. I moved recently, and don't yet have a shelf unit for my non dead cd's, except for a few in a shelf in the dining room.

A few years ago I purchased two used library card catalog units, which cassettes fit perfectly if you take out the center rod. When I moved, I got rid of one of the units, and most of my cassettes. I held on to the cassettes I recorded myself at a show, and they live in my office card catalog. I am slowly digitizing my recordings and plan to upload them to Archive.org. My LP's have had a hard life, they were ignored for 20+ years, living in the garage. They are in bad shape, in plastic boxes in the current garage, and I hope to clean them and store them better some day.
November 2, 2021 - 2:29pm

#766

JoshByTheBay

Joined:
July 9, 2020

A request if I may...

Just got my copy of #40 today and to my disappointment Disc 3 was scratched up along the edges. I've already written emails requesting for help but now I turn to y'all and ask if anyone can send a FLAC file of Foolish Heart. It's the only song I'm unable to burn due to the scratches and it's a favorite. A massive thanks and a small gift will be given in return. Thank you and hope everyone is having a great day!
November 2, 2021 - 11:23am

#767

estimated-eyes

Joined:
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#40

Good comments Spacebrother. My era for shows was this as well, 1988-95. I have gotten through most of the first night and it sounds just like a solid GD show from the era. I like this as a change of pace from the St. Louis box. Nice show, so far (halfway through Dew). Can't wait to hear the rest.

My first 4 shows were Alpine Valley (when is Dave going to release Alpine 89 in video and audio) and then went to Tinley Park in 1990-- first and third shows for us. The venue sucked from the parking lot to the acoustics. It all had a bad vibe. The first night at Tinley was a good show, the third night was fine but not stellar. We were in the pavilion that night and even 31 years later I remember we all noted how Brent looked that night (bugged out eyes a few times on the big screen). Come to find out he was not well in mind, body and spirit.

I was also at the blues summit show at Alpine (Clapton, SRV, Cray and Buddy)-- first night of two. That was my first time seeing SRV and he blew my mind. I walked out saying he sold me all his cds. Just a stellar show. Then I heard of his passing on the radio. I really don't listen to SRV too often, it makes me damn sad. It was very foggy the night of our show, too. I remember my buddy driving and ending up on the wrong side of the highway at a spot where a divider appeared. The fog got SRV the next night.
November 2, 2021 - 10:16am

#768

Sixtus_

Joined:
November 8, 2014

re: The Shelf is Actually A Time Machine

....I actually house the vast majority of my Dicks/Dave's/Official GD Releases in numerical then release order within my 1/3 scale British Telephone Call Box....the red version of the Dr. Who TARDIS; it's about 4 feet tall. It serves as my GD time-machine, capable of exploring the greatest depths of the known musical universe.

The other myriad artistical boxes are displayed all around the house in various, notable locations.
Sixtus
November 2, 2021 - 9:41am

#769

Dennis

Joined:
November 1, 2012

DaP 1 Vinyl

I'm a little surprised this is still available.

I would have thought these be gone in a heartbeat since the cd's of 1 go for so much>
November 2, 2021 - 8:05am

#770

Deadheadbrewer

Joined:
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Dennis--LOL!

I'm glad I had JUST swallowed that mouthful of coffee before I hit your closing remark! :)

And I should have mentioned--the shows in the box sets stay in the boxes, next to the GD CD rack; they aren't on the chronologically-sequenced rack. That sometimes bothers me . . .

John Perry Barlow

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18,000 happy Dead Heads could not be wrong. Deer Creek, my how you deliver.

We're closing the books on DAVE'S PICKS 2021 with not one but two - nearly - complete shows from Noblesville, IN 7/18/90 & 7/19/90. Yes, we've packed it all on four CDs, save for that second night encore which we promise you'll get to hear in the very near future. Sometimes there really is just too much good stuff.

For now, we'll invite you to cozy up with two exceptional back-to-back shows, shows with precision and clarity, shows with more than a lion's share of exploratory jams, and most importantly, shows that were simply a damn good time for all. Highlights from night one include the bookends of a spectacular "Help>Slip!>Franklin's" and an epically intricate "Morning Dew" followed by a classic cover of "The Weight." Night two, is the sleeper hit, with flawless playing from start to finish, the set list inviting you to find new favorites in top-notch renditions of "Foolish Heart" or "Victim Or The Crime," and if that's not one of the finest versions of "Desolation Row" Bobby ever did do! We would be remiss if we didn't mention that these shows were among Brent's last and they are some of his finest of the era at that.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL. 40: DEER CREEK MUSIC CENTER, NOBLESVILLE, IN 7/18 & 19/90 was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

Ah Stoltzie

4/24/72 RTR - the release that turned me into a casual Dead listener. Sugar Magnolia came on in the smoky basement of a home poker game shortly after it came out. I looked at the guy whose house we were at and said in a British accent "what's this mate?" And the rest was history. Still think it's the best version, but you know, you never forget your first Sugar Magnolia.

I'm with you on the 8/1/73, 6/10/73, and 11/19/72. I would add Chicago 7/25/74 to that list. Really want that last '74 Dark Star with the early Slipknot! after it.

Would still very much like the Boston Tea Party shows from the end of 1969 into New Year's. It's unreal how long a Dave's Pick 1969 drought it's been. Back to back Bonus Disc releases with 6 & 10, and then crickets for 8 years.

A few thoughts

7 25 74 yes KF agreed

Glad to have 2 23 74 coming our way

69 shows YES weeee neeeed moooore, Dave

Yesterday of all days

I drive home from Oregon in glorious GD goodness

Pick up son and his GF from airport on the way

Get to my house

Stove/oven and an electrical outlet not functioning

WTF

yin yang

For those with short memories

Trump was the one throwing millions at the drug companies in the2020with the instructions to get a vaccine now! What were the Dems doing? Saying it will never work, it will take 5 years blah blah. Harris claimed she would mess it up. Wtf he wasn’t developing it By the way I’m not anything close to a Trump supporter, as a matter of fact I resigned from the Republican Party in June 16 of 2016 when they nominated him. How many here left the Dems when they nominated a self entitled criminal in ‘16 or a clearly deficient old man in 2020. No just interested in historical accuracy

Best to all

Hi all, I just wanted to wish all you grate people on this forum the best of christmases, restful holidays, and a wonderful, safe and healthy new year!

I've said this before, but it bears repeating: I really enjoy the conversations here, I learn a lot about other music to check out, and I feel like this is a place where there is interesting, informed conversation about the best band in the world, and my favorite band. Thanks, all!

Snafu got into the brown acid

FDT

Meanwhile...

The gorillas at the zoo are cool

Canned heat

Try 1971 'whiskey and wimmen' with john lee hooker on harp and vocals. Happy holidays guys.

Alan Wilson…

On harp. JLH didn’t play harp and you can hear him in amazement as to how the Blind Owl can keep up

Snafu

I meant harmonica.

Christmas is the day that holds all time together.........

Yo! Rockers!!!!

Christmas is the spirit of giving without a thought of getting. So if anybody out there needs some 1971 Christmas joy in their stocking, you know where to find me! The excellence of a gift lies in its appropriateness rather than in its value........

Christmas to a child is the first terrible proof that to travel hopefully is better than to arrive.........

Happy and safe holidays to all, and rock on!!

Doc
Christmas is a season for kindling the fire for hospitality in the hall, the genial flame of charity in the heart......

Hooker 'N' Heat

That's an amazing album. Not very seasonal - but that version of "Burning Hell" is corrosive. John Lee talks about Pigpen inbetween songs, too-dissing his cooking. I presume that's the same Pigpen.

its Christmas

and I'm sure no one here wants to hear the ravings of a trumpian, so let's all be thankful that the orange loser is not in power anymore and be done with it.
The best xmas present ever, trump in jail.

Daverock

You are correct, sir. Canned/Hooker combination is sweet as honey. Hooker adds that voice that you can't find anymore. Legendary. It is going to be a long, long road to 74' winterland, and Baltimore. If you signed up for the early pigeon subscription, it is even that much better.

Dick's Picks Vinyl Question

Ok, everyone gave me enough amazon gift cards I was able to buy a copy of DP36 in vinyl. (missed it by this much when it came out!!) Just for argument sake it was 350 (new/unopened)

My question is how many of the dicks have been put out in vinyl? I have 8, 26, 19 and now 36. Am I missing any?

Hope everyone had a super Christmas and Santa left you everything you ever wanted!

Dennis: Dick's Picks Vinyl Question

I believe DP 1 though 5 have been reissued on vinyl.

Dicks Picks on vinyl

Dennis - I think 24 came out too-3/23/74. I am not 100% sure - I didn't get it. There was one from 1974 that I dithered about...and while I was trying to make my mind up, it disappeared off Amazon. Whichever 1974 show it was - the last time I saw it was on Discogs...for hundreds of pounds

Two cool shows ten years apart.

12/26/69 and 12/26/79

12-26-70...we were

At the El Monte Legion Stadium (of Frank Zappa fame) for the start of a three day run...one of those night's had an "Easy Wind" that was so good and powerful I thought the back wall of the arena was going to blow out...

12-26-79 DP 5

With the "Uncle John's" 2nd set sandwich is another fine listen for today...

El Monte December 1970

Now therez a box opportunity

Real Gone Dicks

DiP 19 recently came out on on vinyl Real Gone, and I grabbed me one. I think I kind of panicked.

Last year Real Gone put DiP 36, which is one of my 3-4 most favorite of the whole series, but money was tight, and I hesitated and it sold out and then I regretted it. So when they announced they were doing 19 I ordered it immediately, even though to me it's only a very good and maybe not great show. But I'm still glad to have it. Not sure how many others they've done on vinyl but they've done quite a number DiPs and Road Trips on seedy. It's worth it to subscribe to their email newsletter if you're looking for that stuff.

Just btw, I received a vinyl copy of the Goat Head Soup reissue for Xmas, and I'm enjoying it more than expected. I really only wanted it to get the 'Brussels Affair' live set, which is some of very best live Stones on record IMO, but the studio album is better than I remember. Lots of songs I'd forgotten all about (Winter, Silver Train, Hide Your Love) are actually really good. Also never noticed what a major contributor Bill Wyman was on that record: very melodic, tasty bass lines throughout. I'll say it again: to me, the Stones haven't sounded like the Stones since he retired. And of course the Brussel stuff is amazing.

Speaking of Real Gone Dicks: One thing thing that I'm pretty sure was just exactly as bad as I remember is 2020. I refuse to rise to the bait and try to list all the ways that **** failed to address the public health crisis that was killing thousands of Americans per day for months at a time. (Who has the time?) I'll just say this: if you're going say in the middle of a crisis "I take no responsibility," then you don't get to come back later and say "I want to take credit."

Giving 9 8 73 another try

No complaints

But

"Official release" worthy? Dick was keen on 9 8 73?

Ooooodd

Luckily we got the St. Louis box

12/26,27,28/70 Legion Stadium

Nappy, cool show, I've never heard these before. P.F., yeah these would make a great box set.

Crow

Thanks for finding the words. In it for a penny, in it for a pound.

Goats Head Soup

Check the liner notes on Goats Head. There ain't a Stones album from the Bill
Wyman era where he contributes less. Keith & Mick Taylor played bass on many
of the tracks. Apparently Wyman either wasn't invited those particular days or was
out sailing on his yacht ... An underrated effort by the Rolling Stones - last good
lp from the MIck Taylor era. Brussels is the live gold standard for the that line-up!

It’s Christmas

Not interested in the raving of haters on either side Trump or Biden/ Clinton

well said Crow

I love how you x'ed out its name lol.

Anniversary shows 12/27/79, 80, 81, 82,83

Big fun at the Oakland Auditorium and the S.F. Civic.

The Stones vs Mighty Baby

It;s a great album, Goats Head Soup - maybe not as funky as Exile, but the actual songs may be better in some respects. And The Brussels Affair is my favourite live album of theirs.

It's a pity Stones box sets always cost so much ( Black Sabbath's are even worse) When you compare the cost of a Stones box to the cost of, say, the 6 cd Mighty Baby retrospective, the latter works out about three times cheaper. And if you were to ask me which I played the most, the answer would be....The Mighty Baby.

Great Dead shows at Oakland December 1979. 12/26 and 12/28 are anyway. The 26th features maybe my favourite jam of theirs with Brent at the wheel.

The Stones Vs Mighty Baby

No contest. In my house Mighty Baby wins hands down. That's like Max Bygraves Vs Tom Jones.

Every so often...

I listen to So Many Roads release from...a while ago

I really like it

I would love another one like it

There must be a bunch of great music in shows that can't be released as full shows for whatever reasons

I'd buy it

Got a joke for ya

I AM AT AN AIRPORT!

Punch line....

....dealing with the airports these days.

So. Many. People.

Sooooo many.....people

And

OUR FLIGHT GOT CANCELLED.

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Punch an airline in the nose today, kids!

Anniversary show 12/28/79

42 years ago today , I was at the Oakland Auditorium for a killer show with the good ole Grateful Dead, what a blast!

Major jeally btk

I have good memories of that show on cassette.

Been a Long Time

Listened to 12/29/77 DP 10 all the way through for the first time in ages . That is some quality Wolf era '77. Terrapin Station really rocks on this one.

The Brussels Affair is great. Ladies and Gentlemen...The Rolling Stones is also an outstanding must have from the Exile Tour the previous year (best of 4 shows) released as a movie. There are a few different songs and a few better performances (check out Happy, Tumbling Dice, Bitch, Love in Vain, Sweet Virginia, and Dead Flowers on L&G). The Blu-ray sounds much better than the CD because it 's in 5.1 Surround Sound. I think Keith's vocals are bit better on L&G as well. The Brussels Affair on the other hand has a Midnight Rambler and Can't Always What You Want that may be the live GOATs; then there's Dancin' with Mr. D and Heartbreaker live, which I find more raw and exciting than the studio versions. I'm going back to back on these now....

Re: Major Jello

Agree.. what a run. I have fond memories of this show on CD.

Jug of Love

I went back to that Mighty Baby box set, and it really is superb. I can't think of any other British band that could jam as freely as this, without reverting to blues rock. If, having already got the signature albums, you passed this by, Simon, I highly recommend it. Great to hear so much of that Glastonbury set from 1971 that was featured on one side of that album all those years ago. Its not Daves Pick standard sound wise, but its infintley better than that side on the Glastonbury L.P.
I never saw them live - but I did see guitarist Martin Stone during his brief time with the Pink Fairies. It was 1976. I was 19. I don't remember a darned thing about it.

Dead of the day -3/17/68 from 30 Trips. Grrreat. Lovelight, when it still sounded fresh, kicks things off in fine style. I've only played the first two songs, so the best is yet to come.

Anniversary show 12/28/83 S.F. Civic

38 years ago today, I was at the S.F Civic for a knockout show with the Dead. I put this show on my top 10 list of Grateful Dead shows I've attended. December, what a great month for Grateful Dead shows, I think they could put out a box set of December Grateful Dead year end shows : 12/68, 12/69,12/70, 12/71, 12/72, 12/77, and on and on.

McDonald and Giles

ring any bells?

"sunbells rain down in a liquid profusion"

BTK should be a vault release consultant

gotta check out that 12/28/83 sometime

R.I.P. John Madden

A Bay Area Legend, I was a huge fan of the Oakland Raiders back in the 1960s.

Last 4, all today

8-23-68 153116.8trackmix.gems (playing now, on Caution)
12-28-91 UM.144626.dm.miller
9-9-87 UM.106823.cm.miller
12-28-69 8999.cotsman

A grease sandwich with 2 anniversaries.

A raise of the glass to...

John Madden

A legend is a legend

sun bells rain down...

Looks like one of Peter Sinfield's pearls of wisdom - though I'm not sure he was on board that early on.
I do like the lyrics of some of the psych/prog rock bands from the late 60's early 70's. I was listening to the Tyrannosaurus Rex album "Prophets Seers and Sages The Angels of the Ages" yesterday - a sample of the words?-
"A cobra seer with the puntured ear
Slaughtered a Malayan Sun bear
Night stood erect with bronzen haunches
Zapped the seer gave the bear back to us."

Genius. They don't write 'em like that anymore.

Dave the Rock and lyrics

Reminded me a little the The Bewlay Brothers by Bowie.

Now there be some great lyrics they don't write anymore! :-)

Dennis - Bewley Brothers

That's a truly great song - one of Bowie's best. Both that, and the album that preceded it, "Man Who Sold The World" are full of strange and wonderful songs. I do like records that somehow manage to be both profound and absurd at the same time.

Phish had to cancel their NYE shows at MSG due to covid....

....but, lo and behold, they are going to play a 3 set show on NYE without an audience on their app and YouTube channel. Starts at 5:30 pm EST sharp.
Did I mention its free??
Pardon my French, but that's pretty fucking cool of the band. They remind me a lot of the Grateful Dead in that they just want to play. And appreciate their phans which is payed forward.
Oh, and it might snow in Vegas tomorrow lol.

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