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    You can listen to Grateful Dead records over and over again and never understand the attraction they have for certain people until you attend one of their concerts. Sometime during the Dead's usual five-hour set, it will all click: Jerry Garcia's Indian bead string of notes on the guitar, the ozone ooze of the vocal harmonies, the shifting, shuffling rhythm of bassist Phil Lesh and drummer Bill Kreutzmann, and the distant echo of the oldest of American folk music. - Columbia Flier

    "Certain people" will know that we're coming in hot with one that's got all these things and more, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77. Yes, there's still plenty of spectacular May '77 to go around. Nearly chosen for Dave's Picks Vol. 1, 5/26/77 delivers three-fold. There's one count for the energy - all the precision of the Spring tour conjuring up the raw power of the Fall tour that was to come. There's another for the setlist which featured beloved songs from WORKINGMAN'S DEAD and soon-to-be favorites from the freshly recorded TERRAPIN STATION. And a third for its element of surprise (or shall we say surprises) from an astonishingly peak 15-minute "Sugaree" to new delights ("Sunrise," "Passenger," "Jack-A-Roe') to a rare first-set finale of "Bertha" to the second set's "Terrapin>Estimated>Eyes," traveling leaps and bounds towards the improvisational journey that is a nearly 17-minute "Not Fade Away." 

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77 was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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  • PT Barnum
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    so much, DMCVT enjoy those meds, had stones 20 years ago, passed most of them, quite painful but after being able to relieve oneself again without pain or dribbles is great. Hated it when they said no more meds, love those Percocet.
    Billy 82' was a great year, saw a show in Nov. of that year, First Passenger for me.
    All this box talk has really got me thinking about an early box Primal Dead, awesome choices, but I would love some 1970 Dead too, those Spring shows at the universities, the summer Festival Express shows have been touched on but there were some great shows with that train trip that need furthur exploration. The fall of 70 also great shows there too, lots to choose from and we have really only gotten Jan. 70 with Dave's if I remember right (which is highly suspect nowadays)
    Also those European tours from 81 and 90, both have some fine music and we haven't seen anything from those tours and the 90 tour has Bruce so could scratch a couple itches at once. There are a lot of eras that we haven't heard and I think variety is the spice of life, although just about any Dead is good dead to me.
    Learned to type in 72 and back then, 2 spaces after a period to start a new sentence, now, only one so it is hard for an old dog to learn new tricks but will try. lol
    Keep those last 5's coming. Here's mine:
    Box of Frogs - 1st
    Bloodrock - Bloodrock
    Trapeze - Medusa
    Pat Travers - Radioactive
    Greg Lake - 1st
    Todd Rundgren - Todd
    that's six, but it's been a while I know it's early, but I've got spring fever...

  • JimInMD
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    Re: HF/PNW68 Tapes

    This was discussed during the Road Trips Vol. 2 No. 2 announcement. I might check the liner notes, but I don't think that's where it popped up because most of this in on the Bonus Disc.

    Someone out there help me clear up my failing memory, but what I recall is Dave saying someone found a box of tapes at either one of the theatres or perhaps (more likely) a studio somewhere. Like they were left behind after mixing Anthem of the Sun. I believe they recorded the whole tour on multi-track, 8 Track to be precise. I'm flying on memory which should scare us all.. I also think this wasn't too far removed from the Houseboat Tapes which was released late in 2005, so returned reels were still a thing.

    So I hold out hope that somewhere, more of these gems exist or perhaps instead of pulling one or two songs they could piece together a complete show or three.

    My four cents.. please someone out there either confirm or deny my memory of this.

    Peace. Stay warm, stay safe. Speaking of peace, FU Count Vlad!

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    I've lost the faith a bit

    I'm struggling with the Dead at the moment. Post '74 has never really been my thing, the 1977 Winterland box is OK and I really liked those actual Winterland boxes, they're a nice size, but I really can't settle and listen to any GD at the moment. I first heard Europe'72 in 1974 and have been a big fan since then but now I don't know. Maybe It'll come back. My St Louis box is not far from the Missouri river in Columbia MO at the moment, at my sister's house, that's how I get round the import taxes here in England. Haven't gone to pick it up yet, maybe she'll bring it over next time she visits. Fox Theatre 1972 was always a big favourite of mine.

    Last 5

    Molasses-A Slow Messe
    Dylan-disc 2 More Blood More Tracks deluxe box
    The Who-Tommy
    John Eliot Gardiner-Bach Cantata Pilgrimage Vol 10
    Mogwai-Come On Die Young

    The 5 records I reckon I've played the most times over the last 50 years

    Love-Forever Changes (the winner by a mile)
    Talk Talk-Spirit of Eden
    Dylan-Blood on the tracks
    Spirit-Spirit of '76
    Traffic-John Barleycorn Must Die

  • hendrixfreak
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    Somebody said we "shouldn't threaten Dave..."

    Why the hell not?? He's out there, rolling around on logs and mossy rocks and looking for eagles. Why not cuff him a bit around the ears and order him back to the Vault to dig out the '68 tapes? He's Canadian, he won't fight back (oh, wait...).

    Okay, 6 brief communiques and I swear I'll stop (!):

    Mr. Ones: "ultimate souvenir," awesome phrase, could be lascivious or a band name.

    JimInMD: how long ago did Dave mention PNW '68 tapes?? Are "one-offs" simply one reel of several for a show? (The OSF just revealed the number of reels used in their various outputs and it surprised me. The average is 11 reels per release, but vary from 2 reels to 32 reels or something like that. I'd guess the faster the tape (71/2, 15 ips) the better the sound...)

    DMCVT: glad you're healing! Good John Hammond story. I've got a pretty good one for another time. I interviewed him for a Jimi-dedicated magazine.

    Icecreamed: Yes, the solution is TWO boxes per year, one small, one large-ish. Rule: small box MUST contain Pigpen material...

    Proudfoot: I sure hope "Public Castration is a Good Idea" is the title of a CD, not your new mantra.

    DaveRock: I needed something meditative and new to play around with. When the pandemic started, I taught myself to fingerpick on the back porch. Lately, getting better acquainted with the fretboard and slide in standard tuning is a challenge. I put the Gretsch through a Tube Screamer for tone and a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe and use a short, fat glass slide (Ernie Ball). I'm just doing 12-bar blues in open position, then doing some Elmore-type licks higher up, staying within the rhythm using a metronome. Takes some work, but the payoff is there. What I love about learning guitar (I picked it up ~17 years ago in my late 40s) is that whatever you put in, you get like 5x back. Great ROI! Plus it feeds the soul. Have a crappy day? Pick up the guitar and feel better.)

    Maybe Vguy could try crushing the stovepipe can into his head. Or at least do a doctored video of such an act.....

  • daverock
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    Good combination

    HF - that's a great combination...to have seen the band so many times and in 1973, one of their peak years. Also, maybe, being young at the time. Bands I saw when I was, say 15-18 had a massive impact on me - that's from 1972-1975. Although I got into The Dead in 1976, it was through records only, and I didn't know anyone else who liked them. Bit of private interest in a way.

    Mr Ones - I too would get anything from 1967-1970...make that 1974. I would get any of the 5 shows I actually saw from 1981-1990...and maybe other shows from those European tours, too. Apart from that....I might get some more 1976 onwards shows...but not before checking out what it was, and what people said about it in Deadheads Compendium etc.

    Incidentally-HF- that's a good idea, playing slide in standard on your Gretsch. I knackered my left hand overplaying mine last week - its has a slightly higher action than normal for me - ouch! - so rather than let it gather dust I should try what you do.

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    Swans feel good now
    Swans public castration is a good idea
    Motorhead inferno
    Husker Du zen arcade
    Husker Du new day rising

    Raw sounds for raw times

  • carlo13
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    Stone ipa stovepipes

    I love these 19.2oz stovepipe cans of west coast ipa from stone brewing. I'd like to see Belushi crush one of these bad boys on his skull.

  • icecrmcnkd
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    My 3¢

    Started as 2¢ but inflation……

    I listen to all years, and think that the 1-Box-per-year model isn’t enough. A 2-3 show Box and a 5-10 show Box every year, along with the Dave’s subscription would be just exactly perfect. And some video too, please.

    All years sell out eventually, Dave/Rhino seem to be doing pretty good on the production numbers for a given era.
    I think that Giants Stadium sold out faster than PNW. 76 was a hit and St. Louis will sell out eventually.
    We are due some 67–69 at this point.

    A Bruce Box is absolutely needed in the near future, and the 2-Box-per-year model will make it possible to keep everyone happy.

    And more video Dave/Rhino!

  • dmcvt
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    near normal now

    Thanks for kind words and my apologies if sharing TMI last night. Pushing 70, am not conversant with hospital grade pain meds, never was (they took very good care of me) and I did have a driver. My vision of a 60s box is much like HF wrote below, six or nine discs of 60s material, we already know there are partial sets, or short sets that could be a stitched together. Would love to see some photos of those early venues as well. Playing a little catch up here, there's a great look at some Gram Parsons back story on a website easily found mrporterdotcom, which includes his bromance with Keith Richards, Stones music, great photos.

    Love to know more about the refinement of the processing Jeffrey Norman uses to bring us such great recordings, just barely aware that it started out as a way to correct inherent distortions of analog recording. Surely it has progressed far past that, there's a story there.

    recent music:
    Charlie Haden's Montreal Tapes with Geri Allen led me to:
    Three Pianos for Jimi: Geri Allen and the Batson Brothers (not your typical Hendrix tribute)
    Allman Brothers Band, Live from A&R Studios
    Bruce Katz Band Live at The Firefly
    Bruce is a truly gifted musician and teacher, there's a bunch of his great music out there.
    so, boring story: went to the 2016 North Atlantic Blues festival in Rockland Maine to meet an old friend who knows Bruce. Bruce was there to play with John Hammond Jr. We hung out with Bruce and his wife first night, got to know this great keyboard guy, born in Baltimore within a few weeks of my own birthday in D.C. Quickly discovered our first Dead show was the same, March 1973, Baltimore Civic Center. During that evening, before ever hearing Bruce play, he asks, where are you guys staying? Oh yeah, that's where John and his wife are staying... next morning we head to the little breakfast area and there is John Hammond Jr. and his wife. We do not bother them of course, but later, my friend drops the news that we were hanging with Bruce, looking forward to their performance that afternoon. John invites us over to chat and tells us a few stories over the end of breakfast. John met Jimi in NYC in 1966, before almost anyone knew about the immense potential about to supernova. John is a very fine bluesman, began to listen to him around 1970.
    We meet up with Bruce after the music is over and continue to hang. Bruce learns I live in Vermont, says I will be there in September with Les Brers in Rutland would you want to come? I am at the afternoon sound check, we meet for dinner before the show. Bruce tells me he is very concerned about drummer Butch Trucks, lots of stuff going on, way too much stress. One of the last Les Brers shows, Butch left the world a few months later. Derek's uncle. Guess all I am saying, this community right here, these connections, means a lot to many of us, life is precious, taking care of and with each other, it matters, no matter how small, pay kindness ahead. This is the spirit I felt at every Dead show, it was there in the seventies. And when i went to Dear Jerry a few years back at MPP I saw and felt it again. I still get shivers when I hear Jorma start that version of Sugaree, he was singing to his ole buddy.

  • JimInMD
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    Primal Box

    My Primal Box pipe dream is that there were more of those 8 tracks from the PNW Winter of 68 Tour. When Road Trips Vol. 2 No. 2 - 2/14/68 Carousel Ballroom was released, Lemieux indicated they found a box of 8 Tracks that were lost or mislabeled or something from the PNW tour, but most of what was included are one-offs.

    I think it's a long shot, but wouldn't it be grand if they were somehow able to piece together a few full shows from this tour recorded on early 8 track tapes?

    Primal Dave.. or we will be forced to taunt you a second time.

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You can listen to Grateful Dead records over and over again and never understand the attraction they have for certain people until you attend one of their concerts. Sometime during the Dead's usual five-hour set, it will all click: Jerry Garcia's Indian bead string of notes on the guitar, the ozone ooze of the vocal harmonies, the shifting, shuffling rhythm of bassist Phil Lesh and drummer Bill Kreutzmann, and the distant echo of the oldest of American folk music. - Columbia Flier

"Certain people" will know that we're coming in hot with one that's got all these things and more, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77. Yes, there's still plenty of spectacular May '77 to go around. Nearly chosen for Dave's Picks Vol. 1, 5/26/77 delivers three-fold. There's one count for the energy - all the precision of the Spring tour conjuring up the raw power of the Fall tour that was to come. There's another for the setlist which featured beloved songs from WORKINGMAN'S DEAD and soon-to-be favorites from the freshly recorded TERRAPIN STATION. And a third for its element of surprise (or shall we say surprises) from an astonishingly peak 15-minute "Sugaree" to new delights ("Sunrise," "Passenger," "Jack-A-Roe') to a rare first-set finale of "Bertha" to the second set's "Terrapin>Estimated>Eyes," traveling leaps and bounds towards the improvisational journey that is a nearly 17-minute "Not Fade Away." 

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77 was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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First one in the door.

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nya nya

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Khaaaaan!!!!!! Missed it by THAT much!

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Yes! Finally no skeletons. The most stale album cover motif ever.... THANK YOU to the artist for not being lazy.

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As every year.

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I had just returned from six months in Germany with a pocketful of money. My friends and I left Glenmont in 2-3 cars, a bag of really good Colombian and some other goodies. When we got near the Calvert Whiskey sign in Baltimore the traffic slowed and this guy in a car next to me looked over, smiled, stuck his arm out the window and handed me a joint. The traffic began to move quicker and he went ahead. The Sugaree kicked ass. Little Feat played there a few days before if I remember correctly. Then Zeppelin played at the Capitol Centre in Largo, MD. a few days after this Dead show.

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then mentions "different eras." My money is on an '80s box. So unless it's '80 or '81 or from Red Rocks, that'll give me a year to catch up on llistening to my collection...

Ah, the tea leaves. Whatever makes me think I can read them? (I'd be guessing 50 years of hallucingens...)

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Welcome to 2022!!!!!
PLAY DEAD
PLAY DEAD LOUD

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Fancy meeting you all here...let's go! And yes to the no more tired skelly covers....and I'm just about completely recovered from my ice tumble from last month...thanks to all the well wishers here too...what a bunch!

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....Dave scared me at 9:55 in. I thought a meteor was heading his way!
Bald eagle though. Carry on.

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Dave's trivia:
Jack-A-Roe debuted 9 days earlier in Tuscaloosa. Similar intros; love that.
No summer tour with Mickey injured. Always wondered about that gap.
He's named the eagles.
And Baltimore Orioles on there too. Can I count that sighting?
Cheers

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I wonder if they were tempted to play a few shows in summer 1977 after Mickey fell off his hoss. If that's what happened-I forget. Would have been interesting if they had.

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Interesting you mention that juncture when Mickey was hurt.
A fascinating hypothesis of author Blair Jackson is the
big what-if - being what if Mickey hadn't had that accident
and Jerry had presented the next batch of Hunter songs in
the pipeline (Cats Under The Stars) and THAT became the basis
for which the Dead would have started the follow-up to
Terrapin as opposed the varied array of songs that make up
Shakedown Street. Interesting notion ...

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There were 60 shows in 77. By my count, including Roadtrips, this is the 31st '77 show to be released. So, it's not even in the top half of shows for that year? In comparison, there haven't been 30 releases from the entire decade of the 80's and that includes the 30 Trips box. Sorry. Not sorry that I'm passing. Maybe we need someone with a new perspective.

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Nice nod to the ubiquitous Baltimore Hon beehive hair style from the 60s on the two turtles gracing the cover.The annual HonFest here in B'More has a beehive hair competition to this day.(Good food, funky vibes and lots of local music) I think the turtle on the right is sporting a John Waters mustache. Hairspray anyone...?

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Wasn’t Jack-a-Roe debuted 5/13/77, and not 5/17/77, as Dave and others have mentioned? It’s a good one!

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Def a Hohn Waters reference. Also, anyone notice the crabs chests? One looks like a wolf howling in the left and the right a bird/eagle mid flap?

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Always love the '77 Shows, but have to say that, the 80's were much better than releases reflect, and are due some serious consideration for more releases. Perhaps the most overlooked show ever is Market Square Arena, Indianapolis, IN on December 5, 1981. UNBELIEVABLY hot show. Are you listening, Dave? If you are, give it a listen!! Space>Wheel>Playing>Stella Blue>Sugar Mags is still smoking in my ears 40 years later. The jam and transition from Stella into Sugar Magnolia is FLAWLESS. 12/6/81 in Chicago the next night is pretty good too . . .

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I am not a great fan of the 1980s, myself, but that matters not - I do agree with L.MO. that it would be good if we had someone with a new perspective involved in Dead releases. In my field of work, it was unusual to have someone in the same post for more than about 5 years. Having said that, and for better or worse, I was in the same one for over 20 - but that wasn't typical. It was generally considered to be a good thing to have fresh eyes and minds involved.

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I agree with Muffin. Definitely a howling wolf on the chest of the crab on the left. I see a crow on the chest of the one on the right. Did some Googleing last night and the tie ins to Baltimore they used on the cover are really cool. Thanks for those of you who posted about the connections.
I would have had no clue. That's what I love about catching up each morning. It seems that no stone is left unturned here. I am sure we all subscribe to DPs for different reasons. So far, the second release with the bonus disc has been worth the price of admission for me. Everything else is just added enjoyment. Some more than others. But they all bring enjoyment!

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It would be nice if they could release a Dave's Picks from each decade each year, one from the 60s, 70s 80s and 90s.. They might not have enough material from the 60s to do that, but that would be the best way if it were possible.

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If they sounded good they would release them. I think the 1989-1990 shows and box sets demonstrate that there is a desire to release great Dead from any period. It's too bad the high quality reel to reel Betty Boards were on hiatus in the 80s, They appear to have lost interest or budget. It's not as though they have not tried. There are some horrific sounding shows that I think were released as crowd pleasers. Someone here described one of the 80s Dave's Picks sound quality as listening to them through the keyhole of a closed door. The show was all but unlistenable. It's a shame, but it's like the 2nd half of 1970. The shows just are not there in any sort of quality that can be called passable.

Happy New Year all!

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I have not heard this show, but have a hard time imagining it holds up to 5/25 at The Mosque. That show is the gold standard of May 1977. In Dave I trust though. I will put in some time at Th Mosque before #41 hits my door mat. The smoothness and lack of warts on 5/25 was exceptional even for May 77.

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Not seeing the howling wolf, but that doesn't mean it's not there. I like the crab (Maryland is for crabs), the Baltimore Oriole, the Terrapin (University of Maryland, home of the Terrapins), the beehive and the John Waters reference. One of the orioles even looks like it has a bit of raven in it.

The street scene has a Shakedown Street vibe to it too. Perhaps a nod to Gilbert Shelton (who does not appear to have much to do with Baltimore, but certainly the Grateful Dead).

I'm a fan of this show. Excellent recording, tight show. It works and is sort of on par with Dave's Picks 1.

Fire Lemieux? I don't see that happening anytime soon.

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Oh Dave why did you have to lumber us with 4 glasses again!?!?

Or, why not make the glasses like DaP's,,, sign up once and get all four?

But noooooooo, now every 3 months I need to watch for the release of the new glass and hope I don't get snookered on one of the glasses.

Thanks Dave!

:-) ( I like the glasses)

OK, maybe the axe was better.

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Hey rockers!!

I let TPTB know, in no uncertain terms, that should DL be fired, I would, on a strictly temporary basis, step up and assume the reins.

However, fans of post-hiatus shows might force my early retirement.................

Doc
Making tough decisions that may make someone unhappy is something to get good at doing......

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....to Dennis' point, the frenzy to get a glass is a reminder that even for the stoudt hearted there still remains a challenge or two to overcome. These reminders are appreciated. I also dig this artwork, and I've hung out in Balti many a time (my younger bro used to live there for about a decade) so it's a nice reminder of good times.

This show is super tight as well, haven't listened in a while but do recall. I never rebuke an Estimated > Eyes.

Be Well People.
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billfgrady and DV had it right. First Jack-A-Roe 5-13-77 and second one 5-15-77 so 5-26-77 is goin' down the line.
Dave, how do you remember all those dates and shows? K for close on that one.
Cheers

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Does anyone know where to change your shipping address for Dave's Picks subscirption people since they will automatically get sent to us?
Thanks in advance!

Hey Now!

You can reach out to GD customer service via email with your updated info and they should be able to assist. I had to do this 2 years ago when we moved and it was pulled off without a hitch.

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There are certain jobs where you just have to accept it that you can't please everyone. President of the United States, Grateful Dead archivist, stuff like that.

Interesting to hear that this DaP marks the release of more than half (31 of 60) of all 1977 shows. But whether that glass is half empty or half full depends on how you slice the salami.

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Just think how much better the GD would have been if they’d replaced the lead guitarist in 1976. I mean 11 years is enough for anyone. (/sarcasm).

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With a little research I am seeing that John Waters’ Desperate Living was released in Baltimore on May 23 or 27, 1977. Not quite the perfect fit as found in the May 25 Richmond show coinciding with Star Wars but with this in mind, maybe Richmond was only selected for Vol 1 because of the all too perfect synchronicity for starting out the DaP series? And of the two, this is in fact the BETTER show???

I could give it much comparative thought when the release arrives…. and then my ears will remind me to simply enjoy.

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Colin - I'm sure Dave would be chuffed at having his contribution to the overall scheme of things compared to Jerry's !
I wasn't trying to suggest that Dave should be "sacked", by the way - that would be unforgivable after all the great work he has done in preserving the Dead's legacy. Just that things could be refreshed if someone new was to have more input.
Having said that - 1977 may still be prioritised whoever is at the helm - its a popular year, and the main goal of Deadnet is to sell stuff. But to me it now sounds like very middle of the road Dead. As Todd Rundgren once sang - "You want the obvious-you get the obvious."

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Hey rockers!!

If we get the obvious, where are the 1970 shows?????????

Just asking.................

Doc
It requires a very unusual mind to undertake the analysis of the obvious.......

According to the crack customer service team at dead dot net, there is only one way to handle address changes. You must contact customer service and have the subscription address changed to:

JimInMD
Baltimore Civic Center, Box 1968
Baltimore, MD 21211

(or you could do as Sixtus suggests, up to you) :D

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Just one song? Just the US Blues from 13 years later? And 45 min of blank space? Why even bother putting a US Blues on there? None of the 5/22/77 material that was left off of DP3 is usable? Makes no sense to me. The Jack Straw, Ship of Fools and Other One> Stella Blue 5/18/77 could have fit, unless that show is a potential DaP, but that's why I allowed myself to hope that some of the missing 5/22 material would be used. Shame.

The Sugaree from this show is fantastic, and I liked the 2nd set Jam. The Jack a Roe sounds fantastic in the listening party, and love Jerry's use of the Octave Divider and MuTron on Uncle John's, a great sound.

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I concur both in reasoning and conclusions

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