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    You can listen to Grateful Dead records over and over again and never understand the attraction they have for certain people until you attend one of their concerts. Sometime during the Dead's usual five-hour set, it will all click: Jerry Garcia's Indian bead string of notes on the guitar, the ozone ooze of the vocal harmonies, the shifting, shuffling rhythm of bassist Phil Lesh and drummer Bill Kreutzmann, and the distant echo of the oldest of American folk music. - Columbia Flier

    "Certain people" will know that we're coming in hot with one that's got all these things and more, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77. Yes, there's still plenty of spectacular May '77 to go around. Nearly chosen for Dave's Picks Vol. 1, 5/26/77 delivers three-fold. There's one count for the energy - all the precision of the Spring tour conjuring up the raw power of the Fall tour that was to come. There's another for the setlist which featured beloved songs from WORKINGMAN'S DEAD and soon-to-be favorites from the freshly recorded TERRAPIN STATION. And a third for its element of surprise (or shall we say surprises) from an astonishingly peak 15-minute "Sugaree" to new delights ("Sunrise," "Passenger," "Jack-A-Roe') to a rare first-set finale of "Bertha" to the second set's "Terrapin>Estimated>Eyes," traveling leaps and bounds towards the improvisational journey that is a nearly 17-minute "Not Fade Away." 

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77 was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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  • simonrob
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    Correct...

    This is where you comment on the latest Dave's Pick but it is also where you post anything that comes into your head. No organization, but you don't have to search the whole site for interesting stuff because its all here in one place.

  • J3FF
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    Is there not any…

    Is there not any organization by topic here? I thought I was commenting on the latest Dave's Picks but it appears this is just a general word-salad-bar with non sequitur dressing...

  • proudfoot
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    New wave dance craze something something something

    it's still rock and roll to me

    Popped into my head

    Catholic Discipline quote is priceless. Coke was never appealing to me. "New Coke" new wave coke

    "'New wave' doesnt mean shit" he goes on to say

    Last 5 mon GD
    VU and Nico
    Metallica And justice for all (WHEREZ THE FUCKING BASS)
    Motorhead bomber
    Melvins the Maggot
    Yes Relayer

  • hendrixfreak
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    R & R Hall of Fame: in my (hugely expert) point of view, the people being inducted surely make the whole concept a farce. BUT on a cross-country jaunt maybe 18 years ago, driving a vehicle from Annapolis to Denver, my path crossed with the museum. A few highlights: a moldy valise with a noticeable bump in the upper lid, said to belong to Howlin' Wolf. He kept his gig cash in it and the bump was caused by a large-caliber handgun placed atop the cash. Mr. Wolf would place the valise under his chair on stage, the safest place for it, as the GD themselves would learn. That sez blues to me. Jimmy Reed's red Les Paul; just OMG! Then there was an exhibit of stage costumes previously worn by the Rolling Stones. Carefully curated, the outfits were displayed on the typical headless dummies. (GREAT band name....) The thing that struck me is that, from what I could tell, the Stones must all be around four and a half feet tall. YES! Rarely discussed fact. Those guys are basically midgets. Hang on, nothing pejorative here about midgets, but more the defrocking of rock 'n roll legends -- those boys could have acted in the Lord of the Rings with no costumes or makeup. Little-known fact: Bob Weir is also under 5 feet tall; he just looks big under the spotlights....

    Okay, the artwork on DPs does not really matter to me. But in light of the amazing artwork done for the PNW box, I really favor strong, simple graphics for CD cases due to size and proportion. The intricate cartooning -- especially skeletons -- is cliched and silly. Not to harsh anyone's pleasure if you enjoy it, but prehistoric indigenous imagery from various locations on the American homeland is possible and, to me, desirable. Blah blah!

    Lastly, the actual music on #41... killer, so far. I agree we're saturated with spring '77 and this was clearly an easy pick for the first release of the year so they could spend more time on whatever special projects they're cooking up. And followed by a '74 show with bonus disc is keeping me as a subscriber. I've only listened to disc one so far and based on sound quality and performance alone, I totally dug it. Would my choice be different, if given a guest spot making a Pick? Sure. But remember, Dave & Co. have to view these releases as installments in a long river of releases that eventually will go vastly different places. I almost fear what Dave has in mind when he mentions "variety." Either that's the month/year of upcoming releases (including the '22 box) or the format (video or vinyl of Euro '72 shows coming?).

    So, um, yeah, I'm most interested in a late '67, anything from '68 mini-box. I don't see Rhino greenlighting a full-on '68 box but a four-disc thing-y? Take my money! (And my brain. It's on a month-long February discount...)

  • billy the kiddd
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    2/4/70 Family Dog/ Nappys Blues

    2/4/70 was filmed by P.B.S. for a special called " San Francisco Rock, A Night at the Family .Dog". It was shown on television on 12/13/70 and included the Dead, Santana, and the Jefferson Airplane. only 3 songs were shown by the Dead, Hard to Handle and China Cat/ I know you Rider. This show was released on DVD a few years ago. I imagine that they filmed the whole show by the Dead and not just 3 songs, it would be great if this show could be released in its entirety, if it still exists. Nappy, to bad about Sam Lay, that first Butterfield Blues Band was one of the greatest bands of alltime, Not a whole lot of those older guys left. Charlie Musslewhite is still going strong, he put out a CD with Elvin Bishop a couple of years ago that's really good.

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    Forgive me my piping in late on this previous topic of discussion but I've been having PC issues and I really don't like typing on my phone with my paws...first of all we lost two great Bluesmen last week...Jimmy Johnson was a great singer and guitarist, Born 1928...if you can get a chance, listen to his Storyville album "Tobacco Road"...great live club recordings from Chicago '77....the other Bluesman lost was the Great Drummer Sam Lay, born 1935...he recorded with everyone in Chicago...he was also the drummer for the first Paul Butterfield Blues Band LP recorded in 1965...Sail On Sirs...Sail on...Mas blues talk later....

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    What Jimmy said.

    Be Well People!
    Sixtus

  • icecrmcnkd
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    New wave

    Gonna wave, gonna wave
    Gonna wave to the wind

    :)

  • Crow Told Me
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    New Wave Goodbye

    Claude Bessy, aka Kickboy Face (lead singer of Catholic Discipline and editor of LA punk zine Slash in the '70s) pretty much said it all about 'new wave':

    "There was never any such thing as New Wave. It was the polite thing to say when you are trying to explain you were not into the boring old rock-n-roll, but, you didn't dare to say punk because you were afraid to get kicked out of the fucking party and they wouldn't give you coke anymore."

    I remember those parties, sort of. Last five:

    Wayne Shorter: The All Seeing Eye
    GOGD: DaP 34 bonus disc
    Ty Segall: Harmonizer
    Neil Young: On the Beach
    GOGD: DaP 41

    I could while away the hours, conversin' with the flowers, consulting with the raiiiiiin

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    If it's a problem (US Blues), the go through the trouble.. work the metadata and place it where it belongs. If you are a physical media person than burn a new copy sans USBlues and toss it in the 6 disc changer instead of the original. It takes about 20 min tops. Keep the original so you don't scratch or damage it and all is good with the world.

    I might not have put the Dave's Picks 40 leftover on this particular release, but these are first world problems to be sure. It's not that hard to grab it, relabel, etc. and put it where it belongs or not.

    As for liking this release, 77 is not on my radar for a host of reasons, but every now and then it really does scratch the itch. '77 for me is the practically perfect GD band otherwise known as my supermodel ex-girlfriend. We don't date anymore but when we reconnect, I am rarely disappointed. I like my GD warts and all and value risk over stability, but that's just me. I doubt if I listen to this day in and day out but this is top shelf GD. I would put it very much on par with Dave's Picks 1.. the main difference being Scarlet>Fire vs. Estimated>Eyes but both shows are solid and rock from start to finish, no warts.. practically perfect in every way. But that's just my brain wrapping itself around this problem, interpretations vary. What you think and how you process it is 100% correct, no wrong answers.

    Worthy GD. A monumental release. Now can we get some warty 1968 for goodness sakes? Trip or Freak GD Please.... Less on the worthy, more on the worth it. :D

    edit: in a pinch, 69 or 70 would suffice.

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You can listen to Grateful Dead records over and over again and never understand the attraction they have for certain people until you attend one of their concerts. Sometime during the Dead's usual five-hour set, it will all click: Jerry Garcia's Indian bead string of notes on the guitar, the ozone ooze of the vocal harmonies, the shifting, shuffling rhythm of bassist Phil Lesh and drummer Bill Kreutzmann, and the distant echo of the oldest of American folk music. - Columbia Flier

"Certain people" will know that we're coming in hot with one that's got all these things and more, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77. Yes, there's still plenty of spectacular May '77 to go around. Nearly chosen for Dave's Picks Vol. 1, 5/26/77 delivers three-fold. There's one count for the energy - all the precision of the Spring tour conjuring up the raw power of the Fall tour that was to come. There's another for the setlist which featured beloved songs from WORKINGMAN'S DEAD and soon-to-be favorites from the freshly recorded TERRAPIN STATION. And a third for its element of surprise (or shall we say surprises) from an astonishingly peak 15-minute "Sugaree" to new delights ("Sunrise," "Passenger," "Jack-A-Roe') to a rare first-set finale of "Bertha" to the second set's "Terrapin>Estimated>Eyes," traveling leaps and bounds towards the improvisational journey that is a nearly 17-minute "Not Fade Away." 

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77 was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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Now I have Jack Nicholson's face plastered on my mind's eye of JimInMD's appearance.

So you made those shows at the Rocks and Telluride in '87, too? Excellent.

I was the guy with the whitewalls and tombstones in my eyes.......

frost (Ampitheatre) on my windshield
go out to scrape and warm up my highly collectible 2005 Prius
in the car 4/7/72 Playin' while inner windshield clears
daybreak on the land indeed
OOOOHHHHHHYYYYYEEEEEAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHYYYYYEEAAAAAAHHHHHYEEAHHYEEAHHHHH....
also crescent moon and Venus in the sky

Careful with that axe, Eugene Oregon...my only attended 87 show...which SUCKED except for the Dylan set

2/3/79 I have 2nd set
comin' around after "Steppin' Out" is heard/experienced

almost February folks

some coworkers need a smack in the head

Dave's 41 is on the way

Wallet found? that's cool.

Onward, my fellow Deadheads

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Got mine yesterday.

I already own way too much 1977, so did not give it a full listen. The sound is exceptional of course. NFA is probably the musical highlight so far.

However, my favorite part of this release is the newspaper article comparing this Grateful Dead concert to one performed by Led Zeppelin a week or so earlier in Baltimore.

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for the first time, i've had a pick lost in the mail. I was hopeful someone who's had this unfortunate experience could point me in the right direction. What is the best email/contact to get a new one sent out?

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send me a PM with the details and I will ask the Doc to get on the case.
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Doing some pre-spring cleaning, so I figured it's time for everyone's favorite game, "Guess The Show(s)"! Winner will get some lovely GD schwag items that I find around the house, including one guaranteed to be unique (that's called a teaser). Amuse yourself and your party guests with stuff I send you that will most certainly encourage conversations and may lead to long-lasting, meaningful relationships!

Maximum of two guesses allowed per screen name (no names created today or later). State date(s) of show(s), venue, and how you deduced the answer. Send your conjecture to me via PM here, first correct answer wins the loot.

Here's the clue:

Fishnets Banana

Good luck!

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35 years ago today , I was at the S.F. Civic for another night with the Good Old Grateful Dead. The Dead pulled out Get Back that night. I heard that Bob Weirs dog had died that day, he must have been really sad. My favorite Dead show in 1987 was the Dylan/Dead show in Oakland, the Dead played a great show and Garcia played pedal steel, that was very special. My favorite shows of the year were the Jerry Garcia acoustic / electric shows at the Warfield Theatre and the Eel River.

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Bolo that's a pretty tough clue, maybe others can guess but not me.

Billy you called out all the shows I was at in 1987, except that Jerry show with Bonnie. I was wrapping up an edit on a documentary and couldn't go. 1987 was a great year, we drove out to Red Rocks and Telluride, seven of us in a van and a car, what an adventure!

Last six:
Dick's 16 11/8/69
So Many Roads box discs 2 and 3, with special attention the the Watkins Glen Jam and the extra texture Eyes of the World from 10/19/74 Winterland
Gram Parsons with the Flying Burrito Brothers, live at the Avalon Ballroom 4/4,5/1969 (recorded by Bear)
Garcia Live 17 - Norcal 76 - this has that gooey guitar sound from 76. I liked disc 2 best with a lovely Russian Lullaby. Kieth can be heard really well in this Betty Recording, and takes some creative solos.
Greek Theater 5/21/82 - from my original audience recording, as I digitize it to upload to Archive.org.

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I got the show:

Flibberty Jib on the Bippity Bop

3/11/93……that must be it

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That was a great show. She joined Jerry (or vice versa?) for a tune or 2. They traded guitar licks for a bit until Bonnie did the "I'm not worthy" bow to Jerry. I remember they touched foreheads - sweet moment. I'll be seeing her perform in a couple months.

I also met her around that time backstage at the Oakland Coliseum. She was with Jane Fonda, who was dressed head to toe in black leather (wow!). Jane was a bit stand-offish, Bonnie was quite friendly. While we were talking, Bear came over and tried to sell us some jewelry. I'm familiar with his enamel stealie pendants, but I'm pretty sure he was peddling one made of sapphires and rubies for $5000 - unless I imagined that. Wish I had the dough back then!

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nah...can't be.

"I'm not Fonda Hanoi J..."

oops, nevermind

what will the Captcha be THIS time? How about identifying nubile maidens? (apologies to Marye)

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You saw Jazzercise Jane in black leather?
Past teenage me is drooling.
And talk about young me in the 80’s, who could imagine that Chrissy from Three’s Company could make thigh exercises so entertaining on tv?

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Got it at a local brick and mortar record shop for $75 (including tax) tonight after work.
Haven’t listened to it yet but that is the plan for tonight.
Credits say Plangent.

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3/1/69 was delivered here today - I noticed a card on my mat to say a box had been left behind my front wall-about 6" away from the street and with no gate to protect it. It was still there whan I looked thankfully. I have removed the cardboard cover, but not the cellophane - it's propped on my mantlepiece next to the "Think I'm Going Weird" and "Sun Blues Box" at the moment. What a great thing - irrespective of the playing, I love the fact that it focuses on self penned material from Anthem and Aoxomoxoa - with Dark Star of course. The other nights are fantastic too - but I have always thought of this one as the jewel.

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I'm glad you got your box, mine is coming on .Monday. That 1st set is a real knockoiut, like you, I like all 4 shows. My two favorites are 3/1/69 & 2/27/69., The Dark Star on 2/27, is The Dark Star that all other Dark Stars are judged against. Kick in 5/2/70, and you have my top 3 Grateful Dead shows of alltime.

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Listened to 3/1/69 last night and it sounded great. That’s It For The Other One is spectacular.
The 3rd album had a lot of static and crackling that I couldn’t remove with a small hand held cleaner so I’m going to run it through the Spin-Clean system today.

If you have a lot of vinyl I recommend a Spin-Clean, it works great. I bought 5/8/77 vinyl factory sealed but long after it had been released and when I opened it the album with Scarlet->Fire had a huge smudge across it that I couldn’t get off with dish soap. I eventually got a Spin-Clean and that worked.

My DaP41 was accepted by USPS from UPS this morning. Hopefully it was handed off to my postal worker before they started their route. Otherwise it will be Monday, although I have received a Sunday delivery before when USPS was out making Amazon deliveries. Fingers crossed for delivery today.

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I had the same problem with my 3.1.69 vinyl: lots of crackle of disc two. Hopefully the Spin Clean will fix it. The music is effing great, but you knew that. The Cosmic Charlie from this show is a hoot, a solid dose of rowdy garage rock blues that got me thinking: whatever happened to the original Aoxomoxoa studio recordings?

My understanding is that the Aoxomoxoa we know is actually the second version they recorded (because they decided they needed to re-do it using the then-new 16 track recording tech). So, whatever happened to those original tracks? I assume they're lost, or they probably would've been issued on the 50th anniversary edition. There's people here know Everything. Anybody know That?

My copy of #41 is wandering around central Cali. It'll get here, eventually.

New ones coming as the old ones go, everything moving but much too slow.

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Greetings from blizzard island... Anyone have any issues at all with 3rd disc not playing. Lucky I got mine in mail yesterday... no luck getting 3rd disc working... have a good weekend. bob t

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Disc 3 is working better than I am... sorry to post!!! "What a maroon"..... Bob t

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if you are a Sugaree fan, you might want to check out 11 14 78.

The band must have found some crank.

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Just type in Aoxomoxoa studio outakes and they come up on the Archive. Barbed Wire Whipping Party, is that a top ten hit?

Yes, 3/1/69 vinyl sounds superb - every note, from acoustic guitar to organ to bass sound crystal clear. Also one of the best guitar tones I have ever heard.
I haven't played the 3rd disc yet - but that's useful information, Cnkd, about tbe cleaning device you use. I've just got a little brush, so I could do with something a bit more substantial.

Looking at my "Live Dead" cd, it's amazing that none of the performances here were deemed worthy of inclusion. Just goes to show what an incredible peak they had reached at this time. As Billy said, Dark Star, and then St. Stephen are from 2/27/69 and the The Eleven and Lovelight are from 1/26/69. I wonder when that one's coming out?

Incredible opening Other One into New Potato Caboose. And that introduction to Cosmic Charlie fair rips out of the speakers.

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I have this on vinyl, plus many other bootleg vinyl's (numerous live GOGD, NRPS, Bowie, even Mott the Hoople) that I ordered from somebody in NJ back in the mid-70's. I'm in the Midwest. "Barbed Wire Whipping Post", according to Jerry, was recorded on 16-track recording gear, tanks of nitrous, and, in his words, "it turned into total gibberish". This song was never played live. I don't understand why.

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I know this has been stated here before, but -1 on the choice of filler. So uncreative! Why not 5-22-77 leftovers? Seemed like a ripe opportunity. Oh well. Here's hoping they can redeem themselves with 5-18-77 if there's room on that one...YMMV...As you were... :-)

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The DaP41 filler didn’t fit on DaP40, so rather than not give it to us at all, Dave gave it to us on 41.
He explained it on the seaside chats.

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I got that. Still uninspired and a rather non-sequitur choice IMO. YMMV.

P.S. Could have simply distributed via 30 Days or otherwise. Maybe free via email download?

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Cleaned all 3 albums and the crackles were still there. Under bright light it looks like micro scratches. Fortunately they’re near the edge and can only be heard during quieter parts. On side 5 St. Stephen the crackles are in the Dark Star end overlap so not really a big deal.

Sounded awesome the second time through, and I noticed parts I didn’t remember noticing on the first listen.

Looking forward to 3/2/69 vinyl. That will give me the complete Box in vinyl format.

No DaP41 today, looks like Monday.

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When first announced I said that a download should have been the method of distribution of the Useless Blues.
If someone gets DaP41 but doesn’t have DaP40 they are going to be “WTF is this business?”

Whatever the case, I’m glad that Dave gave it to us since complete is always better than incomplete.

And even better, when Dave discussed it in the DaP41 seaside chat he said that it could be a model going forward where a show that requires more than 3 CD’s wouldn’t get chopped but would have it's end as filler on the following release.

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Wow, appears that Katie likes mushrooms.

Hope that can be traced back to when Mayer brought her to 7-4-15 FTW.

Rasta5Ziggy - shouldn't that be "especially" Mott The Hoople? On the other hand-maybe you got it right first time. Get a couple of them and you would never complain about the sound of a Dead recording again.

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52 years ago today, the Dead were busted down on Bourbon Street in New Orleans. They played in New Orleans on 10/18, & 19/80 at the Saenger Theatre ,acoustic & electric shows. I think these Saenger Theatre shows would make a great official release

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Sheesh, all this time all I had to do was google "Aoxomoxoa outtake" and I could hear 13 tracks of vintage GD that I'd always wondered about? Well blow me down.

Not surprisingly, the outtakes are not as good as the finished record. If the digital music age, with all its reissues and barrel scrapings, has taught us anything, it is that 90% of the time the artists and producers in question made right decisions and issued the right takes. But that doesn't mean we don't want to hear them, and I've certainly head worse outtakes than these. Now, having heard them, I'm really surprised they didn't clean 'em up a little and issue 'em with the Aoxomoxoa 50th reissue.

Sick today. It's not Covid--we have tests, and when I woke up with a fever I took one, and it was negative. Still feel like Shite. Ah well. Since I can't really go anywhere, I guess I'll run my 3.1.69 vinyl through the cleaner and give it another listen. And some Neil (still sticking it to the Man all these years later!) Won't be bbqing as I'd planned (the notion of spicy food is kind of nauseating at the moment) but I can still watch football. Go 9ers!

GD should take a stand and pull it's tunes as well.

Not a spotify member, never have been and I don't aspire to be. Freedom of speech until you start hurting other people.

Did you see what happened to the state trooper lemay from WA? Wonder what was going through his mind at the end.

We are in trouble as as nation. Good luck all.

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HH had a steal your face thingie on his microphone. "An always reliable source, the GD"

Re state trooper...you cant fix stupid. One of our state senators.. same thing. It would have been such poetic justice if a certain other person who got covid had...well whatevs.

Spotify: JR what a dweeb. So many ignunt doofusses in this world.

Got second shingles vaccine yesterday been wasted tired ever since

Bengals win! Didnt watch, but wow.

For you, Dwayne G!!!

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....kewl.
Hesseman passed on the day the Bengals reached the SB.
I have no words.

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Seattle

Good show

Worth a listen

Never used it and up until yesterday had never heard of Joe Rogan. Inconceivable that someone should take the comments of a guy like he seems to be seriously. About anything. He's not an authority on anything, is he?

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the way I know him is as a support character on an old sitcom called Newsradio (1995-2000)

no, he's not an authority on anything but publicity, apparently

"the truth will set you free"

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Cancelled my Spotify account (blows against the empire, I 'spose).

Pretty sure some of the tracks from AoxomoxoA Outtakes on the Archive were cleaned up and included as bonus tracks on recent re-releases of Aoxo (2003 reissue; 50th Anniversary edition).

...according to the all powerful USPS website I should have my 41 by tomorrow...and speaking of '77 I was in Phoenix this past weekend to attend a Los Lobos show in Scottsdale on Saturday...I went to my fave music shop and plopped down the ca$h for Dickus Pickus 34...it helped plug a hole in my collection...I need about ten more to complete the series...also went Sunday went to an Imax there to see "Get Back - The Complete Rooftop Concert"...great stuff and crazy good sound...kudos to Peter Jackson & Giles Martin for this...

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How is your back/knee? I hope you are on the mend. Take care, take it easy and be well...

BTW, enjoy your new Dickus Pickus and DaP 41 once it arrives! :-)

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What is the name and location of your favorite record/cd shop in Phoenix? I have never been to Phoenix, but, given the cold snowy weather here in the north east USA, I would love to visit Arizona and this music shop. Thanks.

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