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    You can listen to Grateful Dead records over and over again and never understand the attraction they have for certain people until you attend one of their concerts. Sometime during the Dead's usual five-hour set, it will all click: Jerry Garcia's Indian bead string of notes on the guitar, the ozone ooze of the vocal harmonies, the shifting, shuffling rhythm of bassist Phil Lesh and drummer Bill Kreutzmann, and the distant echo of the oldest of American folk music. - Columbia Flier

    "Certain people" will know that we're coming in hot with one that's got all these things and more, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77. Yes, there's still plenty of spectacular May '77 to go around. Nearly chosen for Dave's Picks Vol. 1, 5/26/77 delivers three-fold. There's one count for the energy - all the precision of the Spring tour conjuring up the raw power of the Fall tour that was to come. There's another for the setlist which featured beloved songs from WORKINGMAN'S DEAD and soon-to-be favorites from the freshly recorded TERRAPIN STATION. And a third for its element of surprise (or shall we say surprises) from an astonishingly peak 15-minute "Sugaree" to new delights ("Sunrise," "Passenger," "Jack-A-Roe') to a rare first-set finale of "Bertha" to the second set's "Terrapin>Estimated>Eyes," traveling leaps and bounds towards the improvisational journey that is a nearly 17-minute "Not Fade Away." 

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77 was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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    Just to clarify...

    Jim, you may not have heard the phrase "cosmic yawn" before because I made it up on the spot as I typed that comment. Good one, though, huh? Now that everyone is growing mushrooms in their closet, the supply is bounteous. Denver recently decriminalized them, a wholesome development. Though that won't help me in the rural counties, so I try to behave.....

    Daverock, a pronghorn is essentially an antelope, but not technically speaking, I believe. These freakin' things typically rove in bands on the Colorado Plateau and you have to watch out for them. They can run 60 miles per hour for fairly extended distances. In Wyoming, highway signs warn you -- a band could be streaking across the prairie and cross a paved highway at any angle at high speed.

    I once was returning from a sojourn and spotted a band off the road. I watched them for a half a minute, at 100 yards, wondering what they might look like close up. Oh boy. As I returned my gaze to the road ahead I saw to my momentary horror a pronghorn just clearing my bumper as it streaked right to left across the highway. I'm doing 75 probably. I probably missed it by two seconds. I got a real good, close-up look. And promised myself I'd never again take my eyes off the road for more than a milisecond.

    Yeah, sitting around, staring at a candle, listening to some self-appointed "guide" sounds like serious BS! I get the visceral attraction of tripping with the original Pranksters, but personally, I seek on my own.

    Now that #41 is tucked away on the '77 shelf, I've been looking at the shelf with the 1965-1975 shows and man oh man do I have some listening to do while it's still winter and I'm spending the evenings inside. If a big storm crops up, I'll microdose, take a long walk in the snow, come home, make a fire, and plug in a guitar. Last time I did that, I played for about five hours straight and my fingers hurt like hell. When that's over, I have a couple hundred GD shows and a stack of Miles and Coltrane for the stereo. Life can be good!

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    What a show, especially that 1st set! I wish the Dead would have played China Cat Sunflower at these shows .

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    micro dosing

    I have been interested in the recent scientific and public interest in psychedelics, and the increasing evidence of their positive effects. It certainly seems true to my experiences with mushrooms. I would never have said that I was depressed prior to my experiences, but looking back, my life changed in all sorts of positive and unexpected ways during and after my time of taking them. It seems a bit contradictory, but they seemed to straighten me out. I also wonder now if L.S.D use in the 60's and 70's may actually have set psychedelic culture back decades.

    With acid ,I never knew how strong the stuff was before taking it. The differences between the strengths of the few trips I had on it were massive. Like with most drugs, the biggest danger in it, to me, lay and still lie, in it's illegality. As far as I could make out, no-one - certainly as far down the chain as me - had the faintest idea what they were taking. I can remember when I was on the social work course in 1991, the police gave us a list of all the drugs they had picked up one recent weekend that had been sold in clubs as "ecstasy". Everything from caffeine to STP. I remember one guy who told me he sold dogs worming tablets as ecstasy.

    At the end of the day, I feel it is important to take care of ourselves, and of other people, in the best way that we individually can. I wouldn't want to be a part of any group that disregards the welfare and happiness of it's most vulnerable members.
    And driving - I am sorry PT, you are a prince among men - but I have known several people-I am sure we all have - who have killed themselves or others in motor accidents. Horrendous experiences all round - for the victim, the family and friends left behind, and the perpetrator. Any activity that increases the possibility of creating such a tragedy should surely be ruled out.

    Incidentally, what the heck's a pronghorn ? I think if I had seen one of them in Oldham in the 70's I would have thought it was the devil.

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    Re: Cosmic Yawns

    I've never heard that term used before, but it happens to me every time.

    There was a period mid-career where I did not indulge, plus it seemed hard to get for a while. ..but I still seem to dip my big toe into the cosmos at least once a year.

    In terms of place and setting, early on I found myself either wanting to be in a small group and away from phones and random people or in such a large group as to be ambiguous. So it became nature, camping, backcountry or frankly dead shows. That seems to work.

    The last decade I find myself liking to be alone, mostly kayaking/hiking/biking where I won't run into some unexpected situation where somebody needs me. Concerts too when I don't have to drive or the show is long enough to fit it in. I want no responsibilities whatsoever. Oh, and headphones, music is good - almost a must. So I still explore when I can find the time and tranquility to pull it off. I can't speak for everyone, but I find it helpful for me. It gives me a chance to reformat my internal hard drive and reorganize thoughts, priorities and who I am.

    Those are my tricks.. but I have to admit the HF approach is quite appealing to me. If you notice some unexpected rando behind you on the trail, I'm the one with earphones and a tie dye (and the bad orange hair and pasty white complexion). :D

    Cosmic yawns.. so true. That cracks me up.

    There's a lot of great research on micro dosing that's come out lately. Encouraging to me.

    As to tripping with the pranksters or at an acid test, be it a good idea or not, I would do it in a heartbeat. But alas, I was born too late. That ship sailed while I was playing in the sand box out back. Babs.. I am here, once you come out of your heart injury, if you want to have one last foray into the unknown, give me a call. I'm all in.

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    driving with your eyes closed

    driving under the influence can be fun, and frightening. I knew a guy who wanted to drive, he said he could see so well that anything that could have collided with the vehicle he could see long before it would happen. He was a great driver and drove us all to and back many a show. We in the back seat could only jiggle as he navigated the roadways so gracefully, with a huge grin on his face (aka Neil like). The road always seemed to get away from me whenever I tried, like a ribbon that would unravel. On deserted roads, it was fun, on the freeway, not so much.
    Back in the day when I first started (69) it was the thing to try and freak each other out, aka pranksters, with double talk and echo talk and endlessly trying to get each other to lose it laughing, especially in a crowd of er...non dosed. After hearing about Leary and his way of spiritualizing psychedelics it just wasn't as much fun sitting around trying to concentrate on any one thing for very long. Pranking and laughing was way more fun.
    Not being a musician, never really wanted to hang out with bands, but I always wanted what they were smoking, drinking or taking in any other form. Would have loved to hang with Kesey and Babbs, what a trip that would have been.

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    My own approach these days...

    may be (probably is) just one man's approach, possibly idiosyncratic. First off, know your materials well (potency) and decide if you want a micro-dose, a medium but significant journey or a little over the top approach. Because I'm in the backcountry alone, I need to be confident that I can get somewhere and back in a day, handle the terrain, maintain my orienteering skills, and calmly apply my behavioral knowledge if I run into a bear or cougar. (Don't surprise 'em, talk, wave arms, don't look 'em in the eye, give 'em room to avoid you, take the guard off the pepper spray, be sure you're upwind, etc.) I get moving early in the day and have an objective before dropping so as the agent (psilycibin for me) comes on, I'm in my element in terms of orienteering, body and mind synch and thus avoiding the initial, potentially debilitating awkwardness of the limbs and thoughts that comes with the cosmic yawns at "onset." And make sure I'm actively striding and finding my way as the peak comes and goes. I usually don't stop for any length of time. Occasionally I miscalculate the powder at the bottom of the bag and get a little walloped. But an 8-hour hike through spectacular terrain where I won't see humans -- this is trackless country, no trails -- typically does the trick. And there's nothing like a shot and a beer and a toke back at camp or, if camp is the truck, then a chair and guitar. Last fall I did just that across a wild plateau called East Cactus Flats, returning to my truck in a forsaken place called Disappointment Draw. I cracked a beer and started fingerpicking when I heard a strange noise. A good-sized pronghorn, traveling alone, approached to within maybe 50 feet and kept querying me -- no mistaking that querying sound. Essentially, who or what are you? What the hell is that sound you're making? And, have you seen my peeps? I've noticed that wild animals, as well as domesticated dogs, totally key in to a person who is psychedelic. The other major part of this approach is what I'd call "digestion." Take the time to fully absorb the lessons of the day and seek ways to incorporate those insights into your ordinary reality and dealings with others. Be patient and kind. (I do not always succeed; this is a work in progress after 50 years.) Too much repetition of the experience without "digestion" and, to me, it's just repeating the high without drawing the lessons. Note that I did none of this the first ten years. We'd find out the LSD's potency the hard way. Lessons might be impressed upon us without our consent(!) The chaos and human interactions could be frightening -- usually to others, but sometimes to me. (Don't try driving!!) But over the decades I kinda honed an approach that essentially comprises medicine for the soul, for me. I think the currrent surge in interest by scientists and the general public is good up to a point, as psychedelics, used constructively, can help bolster our humanity and -- perhaps -- ease difficulties. But I could not recommend them. Either they work for you or they don't. And finding out can be tricky. Sure makes me a better-adjusted person -- and now I'm echoing Paul McCartney, I believe!

    That's all the blathering for today. As you were........

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    Leary or Pranksters?

    If I had to choose.... I would choose neither of them. While the pranksters now seem a bit ghastly, Leary seemed a bit over ambitious. I still have some of his books -that one which is a psychedelic version of The Tibetan Book of The Dead comes to mind. I think the idea was that you read it to someone who was tripping, as a means of helping them locate the light. I wonder if anyone ever did that. That idea of set and setting does ring true though - and I would say that advice has stayed appropriate down through the years

    Mr Ones - I still haven't got round to listening to Planet Waves. I always assumed it was a weaker one, but I read recently that it was very much a part of a trilogy, with "Blood on the Tracks" and "Desire", so I am hoping to check it out soon.

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    My sister lives in Mill Valley, and she used to see Weir around town all the time. (Not so much lately.) She’s not a fan, so it’s no biggie for her, but I’ve sometimes thought about what I would do if I saw Bob getting coffee or something while I was visiting her. I wouldn’t want to bother him, but I think I’d have to at least say hello, right? Say ‘thanks for the music’ at least? My other sister lives in Kauai, where Kreutzman lives now, and I’m going to be visiting her in a couple weeks. Wonder what I should say if I see BK grabbing a shave ice?

    I can definitely relate to what hendrixfreak sed: shows just got too big for my liking in the ‘80s. As a rule, I’d usually much rather see a decent band in a small club than go see some superstars in a sports arena: better sound, fewer assholes, fewer cops, room to breath. Throw psychedelics into the mix and the gap gets even wider. It’s one thing to be shrooming at the Warfield with 2,000 of deadicated Heads, quite another to try to deal with 50,000 people who seem like they just got bussed in from MTV’s spring break special. Not to mention all the security.

    In principle, I always thought it was cool that the Pranksters had such a wide open, “let’s get high and freak freely” approach to tripping, as opposed to the Millbrook thing of sitting silently in a room with a candle and saying Om or whatever. That said, I’m not sure I could’ve passed the Acid Test. My best experiences, aside from Dead shows, were always out in nature: a deserted stretch of shoreline on the Lost Coast, backpacking the Sierras, etc. I think if I would've had to try to simultaneously process Babbs' babbling, Cassidy's hammer juggling, the Dead, and 500 mics worth of Koolaid my brains probably woulda dribbled out my ears.

    Last thought: how lucky are we? The StL box continues to delight. Seven shows from three different tours, all in good-to-great sound. And the last two DaPs have also been great. I mean, millions of people love Zeppelin, the Stones, the Eagles, and other bands from back in the day, but nobody (well, except the ABB I guess) has anything like the Dead's archival release thing. Blessed be us.

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    Comus-First Utterance-Tip ‘o the hat to DAVEROCK!!
    Beatles-Get Back Rooftop Performance
    Elvis Costello-The Boy Named If
    Shuggie Otis-Inspiration Information
    Bob Dylan-Planet Waves

    It’s a crazy, mixed-up world, but Music is a consistent balm(for me at least!!).

    Dave’s 42 anyone?? It’s only about 62 days away!!

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    Billy - thanks for jogging my memory - Viola Lee Blues from 4/26/69 is included on The Phil Zone too . I didn't know they interpreted What's Become of the Baby at this show either. Bit of a missed opportunity there - if that had been included, then this show, as released, would have been unique. In a way then, Dicks Picks 26 short changes 4/26/69 a bit.

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You can listen to Grateful Dead records over and over again and never understand the attraction they have for certain people until you attend one of their concerts. Sometime during the Dead's usual five-hour set, it will all click: Jerry Garcia's Indian bead string of notes on the guitar, the ozone ooze of the vocal harmonies, the shifting, shuffling rhythm of bassist Phil Lesh and drummer Bill Kreutzmann, and the distant echo of the oldest of American folk music. - Columbia Flier

"Certain people" will know that we're coming in hot with one that's got all these things and more, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77. Yes, there's still plenty of spectacular May '77 to go around. Nearly chosen for Dave's Picks Vol. 1, 5/26/77 delivers three-fold. There's one count for the energy - all the precision of the Spring tour conjuring up the raw power of the Fall tour that was to come. There's another for the setlist which featured beloved songs from WORKINGMAN'S DEAD and soon-to-be favorites from the freshly recorded TERRAPIN STATION. And a third for its element of surprise (or shall we say surprises) from an astonishingly peak 15-minute "Sugaree" to new delights ("Sunrise," "Passenger," "Jack-A-Roe') to a rare first-set finale of "Bertha" to the second set's "Terrapin>Estimated>Eyes," traveling leaps and bounds towards the improvisational journey that is a nearly 17-minute "Not Fade Away." 

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77 was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

USPS received my DaP41 from UPS on Saturday, but only delivered it today.

Sounds just as expected. Thanks Betty, Norman, Dave & Co.
I never had this on cassette and have listened to the torrent copy I have less than 5 times, so it’s basically a new show to me.
Yeah, the filler is jarring being at the end of CD 2. But glad we got it.
Since I only listen to the CD’s once to confirm that they aren’t defective and then copy to a HD, process, and transfer to a micro SDXC card for use in a music player, this show will flow smoothly and 7-19-90 will now have it’s encore.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 02/02/2022 - 18:07

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It's largely irrelevant here in the US. Unless your car breaks down in Cleveland Ohio.. why bother. Full disclosure.. Cleveland is great city and is just few hours drive from me.. so considering the proximity I go to the Hall of Fame all the time (not). Never been, never will. (R&R Hall of Fame that is, Cleveland is cool).

I think that's about the answer one would expect. With the small exception of seeing a piddly list of newbies each year.. we don't give a shit and neither did Jerry.

Now what were we listening to again?

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 02/02/2022 - 18:58

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.....although my son is enjoying Duran Duran. Rio.
I only have two ears and one auditory output at a time.
He thanked me for mixing it up a little. John Taylor lays some serious bass lines according to my minion.
I squirred. It happens.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Wed, 02/02/2022 - 22:02

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Hmm

Xtc?
Hazzee fantayzee?
Lena lovich?
M?

Bow wow wow? Remember the hot chick in the video singing i want candy and licking the melty ice cream cone?

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I sure do

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 02/02/2022 - 22:23

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....soon, it will be 2.22.22.
Neat.
Ultravox. INXS. Oingo Boingo. Simple Minds.
Goodnight peeps....

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Submitted by daverock on Thu, 02/03/2022 - 02:32

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According to Memphis musician Jim Dickinson, " The best songs don't get recorded ; the best recordings don't get released ; and the best releases don't get played".

I always felt a bit too scruffy for new wave. Although I did like the way Hayzee Fantasee used to dance about on the telly-and Lene Lovich once appeared on stage with Hawkwind, for Gods sake.

Mr Ones - thanks very much - I hope you realise that I have the greatest respect for you, and your views - and that if I disagee with anything you happen to say, that respect isn't diminished in the slightest.

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Submitted by dmcvt on Thu, 02/03/2022 - 05:47

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Oingo Boingo new wave? Yep, 40 plus years ago... discovered because of a truly bizarre and profane movie, The Forbidden Zone. Have their first vinyl EP, with the cat on the cover. High energy rock ska, the brilliant Danny Elfman. Weird Science a pop hit. Never expected to see mention here, thanks!

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Submitted by steelcityhead on Thu, 02/03/2022 - 08:16

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Hello all first time posting. Hope everybody is well out there. Received my copy of 41. However discs 1 and 3 have heavy static halfway through both cds. Can anybody help me out. Emailed customer service haven’t heard back. Long time collector first issue I’ve had. Thanks all stay well!!!🤘🏻

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Submitted by marye on Thu, 02/03/2022 - 09:16

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send me a PM with the details and I will ask the Doc to get on the case.
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Submitted by estimated-eyes on Thu, 02/03/2022 - 09:32

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I have no affinity for the induction portion of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, I really gave up on it when they started inducting folks like Madonna and such. If you are going to induct them, just call it a music hall of fame and be done with it.

That said, any folks on these pages would enjoy a visit to the museum immensely. I am a 20+ year museum professional who likes going to museums and I can say my visit to the R&R HOF Museum in 2009 was one of my finest museum experiences. The exhibits are extremely well done and the artifacts displayed are incredible. Lots of goosebump stuff that chronicle the history of blues and rock and roll. A handful of Jerry's guitars are in a public space to see without having to pay, but I remember seeing Pigpen's harp and beat up hat (there may have been a jacket, too) among other GD stuff. Full on outfits worn by Mick Jagger and others on tour, instruments from pretty much every notable player, and some really fantastic stuff. I recall the piece of the tail from the airplane that went down in Lake Monona with Otis Redding. That kind of stuff! It is a big museum and well worth a visit and the money to get in.

OK, off soapbox. Onto filler. I was being melodramatic about not listening to the second cd of this set because of it. Really, I just can't get the third CD out of the player, it is that good. I can listen to a stand alone S&D, High Time, etc... or that magnificent jam on CD 3. No contest. Best filler I had in my tape days was on the end of 12/31/78 set III tape-- someone put the 1967 clip with strange stage banter and one of the few Golden Road to Unlimited Devotion followed by New Potato Caboose. It was revelatory to hear primal Dead like that. I am forever thankful to the fellow who put that on there.

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Submitted by jbxpro on Thu, 02/03/2022 - 10:21

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Got DaP41 today, finally. Just be patient if you haven't gotten yours yet. But a question: does anyone know what's going on about the hair-dos on the turtles on the cover?? I was around in 1977 and this wasn't the style, especially on turtles.

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Submitted by Dark-Star on Thu, 02/03/2022 - 10:41

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You would think they could at least have thrown in the missing US Blues from the previous Dave's Picks 40. The extra disc they threw in that release for no particular reason just barely missed making 2 complete shows ;-)

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Submitted by daverock on Thu, 02/03/2022 - 10:52

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Estimated - that does sound good. I used to like going to exhibitions on rock memorabilia when I went to London up to two years ago. Great ones on Elvis, David Bowie and The Stones. The Pink Floyd one was a bit sketchy. I can remember standing behind a group of people looking at a telecaster covered in silver mirrors placed in a glass case. When I got up close, I read the card underneath it, which said it was an exact copy of the one Syd Barrett used to play. Great. Anybody could have done that on cheap tele !

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 02/03/2022 - 11:09

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....huge fan since 1985. Their final show on Halloween 1995 is one of the most high energy shows I've seen (on yoo toob. I wasnt there sadly).
Fingers crossed for a reunion at some point, but doubtful. Not because of I'll feelings amongst the band, but Elfman has stated that his hearing is too far gone to consider it. Bummer.
Him and Bartek have gotten together a few times since, but only for a song or two.
Back to Baltimore '77. That Jack-A-Roe, Minglewood, Bertha is a definite 1-2-3 punch. Very nice.

Just halfway through the first set, it sounds more or less exactly as I remembered it. Beautiful recording, high energy show. ..and the vocals are quite good by GD standards. There's one thing I never quite got used to and that was the tone of the Travis Beam. Still, he manages to rock with it, and it has a very clean sound.

A very good show, certainly a worthy Dave's Picks. Can't wait for the second set.

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It is just me, or did they mix Tom Constanten's harpsichord way down? This is(was) my all time favorite rendition, in no small part due to the fact that Tom was up front and very audible.
I did a quick compare with the Archive soundboard, the difference is there...what happened? tried it on two systems, same result; anybody else noticed?
Can't comment on the rest of the set, I just went straight to that side.

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Submitted by nappyrags on Thu, 02/03/2022 - 14:55

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...Did someone say Lene Lovich? I saw her and other Stiff Records acts at The Whiskey in West Hollywood...Stiff's motto was "If It Ain't Stiff, It Ain't Worth a F***k"... and of course at the same time were the Two Tone bands out of England...The Specials, Madness and The Selecter...wow!

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Submitted by J3FF on Thu, 02/03/2022 - 14:59

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DAVE- Why the 3+ minutes of crowd "Not Fade Away" chanting at the start of "U.S. Blues"?? First of all it simply makes no sense to include that as part of the bonus for "U.S. Blues"... it would make sense at the end of "Not Fade Away." Second... that's going to be a pain to have to fast forward to on all future listens.

Even for crowd noise/ band banter that is actually part of the concert it would be nice to make it a separate "song" on the CD--or code it as negative time before the song starts-- so we can skip it on future listens.

THANKS!

I rarely play "CD's" anymore...I rip my purchases to my HD and drop them into my digital walkman or connect the player via aux cord to my car stereo so this bonus track was not an issue...I simply dragged the track out of it's folder and relabeled it "18" and dropped it into the corresponding folder for 40....the crowd chants match up pretty well like that....that being said it should have been available as a one time download with proof of purchase of 40...

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Submitted by Exile On Main St. on Thu, 02/03/2022 - 17:16

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Dave is doing a great job to supply us with complete shows. Not Fade Away is the missing encore from Deer Creek on the last Dave's Picks. Aside from it completing the show, it's almost impossible to get a crowd to sing for 3 minutes (no small feat). I heard of them doing that once before when they closed out a show and had the whole place chanting over and over 'Hey now, Hey now, lko lko all day, Jock-a-mo pee-no ah na-ney, Jock-a-mo pee na-ney"

I am not impressed with this show.

Hey Vguy,
That Halloween 1995 show was released on VHS first, then as a 2 DVD package. Plays well on home systems given it's not HD spec. One of the best live shows far and wide. Have OB vinyl and CD, but that video captures the essence, should have run that one up the flag pole when music videos were under discussion a little while back. Same for the vids from Branford Marsalis Live in Amsterdam: A Love Supreme, or his last, late period Miles Live in Munich. One thing to hear the music (do "get" that repeated videos do not sustain like pure earfood, it's a different part of the brain), one must see musicians live or as close to it as possible, when at peak. Completed two full passes on 41 and can only agree, disc three is outstanding. This performance virtually free of warts as far as I can tell and polished, great audio and power under the hood, add another star to the constellation that is 1977. Will reiterate, not that I didn't want it, US Blues is just out of place. YMMV.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Thu, 02/03/2022 - 18:48

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old wave

Still freaking awesome in 2022

Black Angel's Death Song

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 02/03/2022 - 20:05

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If it's a problem (US Blues), the go through the trouble.. work the metadata and place it where it belongs. If you are a physical media person than burn a new copy sans USBlues and toss it in the 6 disc changer instead of the original. It takes about 20 min tops. Keep the original so you don't scratch or damage it and all is good with the world.

I might not have put the Dave's Picks 40 leftover on this particular release, but these are first world problems to be sure. It's not that hard to grab it, relabel, etc. and put it where it belongs or not.

As for liking this release, 77 is not on my radar for a host of reasons, but every now and then it really does scratch the itch. '77 for me is the practically perfect GD band otherwise known as my supermodel ex-girlfriend. We don't date anymore but when we reconnect, I am rarely disappointed. I like my GD warts and all and value risk over stability, but that's just me. I doubt if I listen to this day in and day out but this is top shelf GD. I would put it very much on par with Dave's Picks 1.. the main difference being Scarlet>Fire vs. Estimated>Eyes but both shows are solid and rock from start to finish, no warts.. practically perfect in every way. But that's just my brain wrapping itself around this problem, interpretations vary. What you think and how you process it is 100% correct, no wrong answers.

Worthy GD. A monumental release. Now can we get some warty 1968 for goodness sakes? Trip or Freak GD Please.... Less on the worthy, more on the worth it. :D

edit: in a pinch, 69 or 70 would suffice.

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Submitted by Crow Told Me on Thu, 02/03/2022 - 21:41

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Claude Bessy, aka Kickboy Face (lead singer of Catholic Discipline and editor of LA punk zine Slash in the '70s) pretty much said it all about 'new wave':

"There was never any such thing as New Wave. It was the polite thing to say when you are trying to explain you were not into the boring old rock-n-roll, but, you didn't dare to say punk because you were afraid to get kicked out of the fucking party and they wouldn't give you coke anymore."

I remember those parties, sort of. Last five:

Wayne Shorter: The All Seeing Eye
GOGD: DaP 34 bonus disc
Ty Segall: Harmonizer
Neil Young: On the Beach
GOGD: DaP 41

I could while away the hours, conversin' with the flowers, consulting with the raiiiiiin

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Submitted by nappyrags on Fri, 02/04/2022 - 06:40

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Forgive me my piping in late on this previous topic of discussion but I've been having PC issues and I really don't like typing on my phone with my paws...first of all we lost two great Bluesmen last week...Jimmy Johnson was a great singer and guitarist, Born 1928...if you can get a chance, listen to his Storyville album "Tobacco Road"...great live club recordings from Chicago '77....the other Bluesman lost was the Great Drummer Sam Lay, born 1935...he recorded with everyone in Chicago...he was also the drummer for the first Paul Butterfield Blues Band LP recorded in 1965...Sail On Sirs...Sail on...Mas blues talk later....

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Submitted by billy the kiddd on Fri, 02/04/2022 - 07:24

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2/4/70 was filmed by P.B.S. for a special called " San Francisco Rock, A Night at the Family .Dog". It was shown on television on 12/13/70 and included the Dead, Santana, and the Jefferson Airplane. only 3 songs were shown by the Dead, Hard to Handle and China Cat/ I know you Rider. This show was released on DVD a few years ago. I imagine that they filmed the whole show by the Dead and not just 3 songs, it would be great if this show could be released in its entirety, if it still exists. Nappy, to bad about Sam Lay, that first Butterfield Blues Band was one of the greatest bands of alltime, Not a whole lot of those older guys left. Charlie Musslewhite is still going strong, he put out a CD with Elvin Bishop a couple of years ago that's really good.

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Fri, 02/04/2022 - 07:36

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R & R Hall of Fame: in my (hugely expert) point of view, the people being inducted surely make the whole concept a farce. BUT on a cross-country jaunt maybe 18 years ago, driving a vehicle from Annapolis to Denver, my path crossed with the museum. A few highlights: a moldy valise with a noticeable bump in the upper lid, said to belong to Howlin' Wolf. He kept his gig cash in it and the bump was caused by a large-caliber handgun placed atop the cash. Mr. Wolf would place the valise under his chair on stage, the safest place for it, as the GD themselves would learn. That sez blues to me. Jimmy Reed's red Les Paul; just OMG! Then there was an exhibit of stage costumes previously worn by the Rolling Stones. Carefully curated, the outfits were displayed on the typical headless dummies. (GREAT band name....) The thing that struck me is that, from what I could tell, the Stones must all be around four and a half feet tall. YES! Rarely discussed fact. Those guys are basically midgets. Hang on, nothing pejorative here about midgets, but more the defrocking of rock 'n roll legends -- those boys could have acted in the Lord of the Rings with no costumes or makeup. Little-known fact: Bob Weir is also under 5 feet tall; he just looks big under the spotlights....

Okay, the artwork on DPs does not really matter to me. But in light of the amazing artwork done for the PNW box, I really favor strong, simple graphics for CD cases due to size and proportion. The intricate cartooning -- especially skeletons -- is cliched and silly. Not to harsh anyone's pleasure if you enjoy it, but prehistoric indigenous imagery from various locations on the American homeland is possible and, to me, desirable. Blah blah!

Lastly, the actual music on #41... killer, so far. I agree we're saturated with spring '77 and this was clearly an easy pick for the first release of the year so they could spend more time on whatever special projects they're cooking up. And followed by a '74 show with bonus disc is keeping me as a subscriber. I've only listened to disc one so far and based on sound quality and performance alone, I totally dug it. Would my choice be different, if given a guest spot making a Pick? Sure. But remember, Dave & Co. have to view these releases as installments in a long river of releases that eventually will go vastly different places. I almost fear what Dave has in mind when he mentions "variety." Either that's the month/year of upcoming releases (including the '22 box) or the format (video or vinyl of Euro '72 shows coming?).

So, um, yeah, I'm most interested in a late '67, anything from '68 mini-box. I don't see Rhino greenlighting a full-on '68 box but a four-disc thing-y? Take my money! (And my brain. It's on a month-long February discount...)

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Submitted by proudfoot on Fri, 02/04/2022 - 07:57

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it's still rock and roll to me

Popped into my head

Catholic Discipline quote is priceless. Coke was never appealing to me. "New Coke" new wave coke

"'New wave' doesnt mean shit" he goes on to say

Last 5 mon GD
VU and Nico
Metallica And justice for all (WHEREZ THE FUCKING BASS)
Motorhead bomber
Melvins the Maggot
Yes Relayer

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Submitted by J3FF on Fri, 02/04/2022 - 12:15

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Is there not any organization by topic here? I thought I was commenting on the latest Dave's Picks but it appears this is just a general word-salad-bar with non sequitur dressing...

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Submitted by simonrob on Fri, 02/04/2022 - 12:54

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This is where you comment on the latest Dave's Pick but it is also where you post anything that comes into your head. No organization, but you don't have to search the whole site for interesting stuff because its all here in one place.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 02/04/2022 - 13:01

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Comment away.. my last post was mostly regarding DaP 41. It's a stunner, classic GD.

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Submitted by nappyrags on Fri, 02/04/2022 - 13:52

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Not only do our purchases contain mis-placed bonus tracks, so do our conversations...

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Fri, 02/04/2022 - 13:54

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Search the website for topic specific discussion. Likely there is a topic for what you want to discuss. But, you may or may not get a reply. Or, perhaps not a reply for months or years. That's part of the fun and some of what keeps me here. :-)

Dave's 41 still shrink wrapped, waiting for its full reveal

I like putting GD stuff on here as well as random stuff on here. I make show recommendations fairly regularly.

Scroll past if you don't find it relatable. I also need a place to vent my inner lunacy, so y'all are the lucky recipients.

Just don't talk politics or say things like "DT sux donkeys"

Keep in mind that the occasional random word salad comment can spark a detailed conversation

"because of the formlessness" - Jerry Garcia

it's also very Acid Test-y

lol

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Submitted by daverock on Fri, 02/04/2022 - 14:43

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Maybe just as improvisation lies at the heart of The Dead's music, it also lies at the heart of discussion on the Dead's music too. That's my excuse for slipping off topic anyway.

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Submitted by snafu on Fri, 02/04/2022 - 14:45

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This is where 90 min cd-r’s with over burn come in. Granted not red book but if I’m working around the house I’m not hearing perfection so let it rip

It’s how we entertain ourselves and each other.
And we just keep moving to the comment page of the most current release or announcement.

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Submitted by Shindigger on Fri, 02/04/2022 - 17:01

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They usually arrive by now. Is it delayed? (Like everything else.) And why is the Dave's Picks page so empty? I see just two sold out sets of cards.

Hover over 'Special Edition Shops' in the store, there's more Dave's stuff there. Alas, you may have missed out on the glass if that's what you were going for. Yes, DaP 41's are now shipping and arriving...

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Fri, 02/04/2022 - 18:38

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not letting the pork chops touch the mashed potatoes. Trust me, J3ff, that one threw me, too. But it's been years.

Not to be defensive, but at least 2% of my last post had to do with the current release. So there!

That's my story and I'm unable to get unstuck from it.............

Pork Chops touching the Mashed Potatoes...

There is no greater controversy or travesty in the modern world. Archduke Franz Ferdinand was a famous mixer of mash and chops.. and we know what happened after that. good grief. Can't we keep it clean? Politics, religion, race relations, anything but pork touching taters on the plate.

Getting ready to delve into the second set of 5/26/77. The place, but not the time of my first dead show. I'm totally psyched.

This whole tater pork chops comment reminds me of merlot on that movie sideways. "If anyone orders merlot, I'm leaving. I am not drinking any flucking merlot"

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Submitted by nappyrags on Fri, 02/04/2022 - 19:58

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VGUY72, I would say Fela is more rock 'n roll than most of the folks in the hall...no Fela, no Talkng Heads "Remain In Light"...Fela was constantly threatened by the Military Junta that ruled Nigeria during the 70's...He was arrested many times, most famously when he was arrested and had a joint planted on him...he ate the joint and his jailers kept taking his stool to test so he could be charged with possession...what they didn't know was that other prisoners were passing along their stool to be tested...he was cut loose and recorded his LP "Expensive Shit"....Ginger Baker went to Africa to play with him after Blind Faith broke up...When McCartney went to Lagos to record "Band On The Run" he said one of his fondest memories of that trip was to go to a small sweaty club and see Fela play...He was a bad man...

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 02/04/2022 - 19:59

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....I tell jokes sometimes. Example. My dog has no nose. Wait. Not that one.
Where do bad rainbows 🌈 go?
Prism! But it's a light sentence.
BTW. J3FF. You didn't comment on the release either. Potato, potato. And chops. And applesauce.
I remember when this group shared recipes too.
That was the pre-no-linq daze though.
Thanks for the Kuli lesson Mr. Rags btw.

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