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    You can listen to Grateful Dead records over and over again and never understand the attraction they have for certain people until you attend one of their concerts. Sometime during the Dead's usual five-hour set, it will all click: Jerry Garcia's Indian bead string of notes on the guitar, the ozone ooze of the vocal harmonies, the shifting, shuffling rhythm of bassist Phil Lesh and drummer Bill Kreutzmann, and the distant echo of the oldest of American folk music. - Columbia Flier

    "Certain people" will know that we're coming in hot with one that's got all these things and more, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77. Yes, there's still plenty of spectacular May '77 to go around. Nearly chosen for Dave's Picks Vol. 1, 5/26/77 delivers three-fold. There's one count for the energy - all the precision of the Spring tour conjuring up the raw power of the Fall tour that was to come. There's another for the setlist which featured beloved songs from WORKINGMAN'S DEAD and soon-to-be favorites from the freshly recorded TERRAPIN STATION. And a third for its element of surprise (or shall we say surprises) from an astonishingly peak 15-minute "Sugaree" to new delights ("Sunrise," "Passenger," "Jack-A-Roe') to a rare first-set finale of "Bertha" to the second set's "Terrapin>Estimated>Eyes," traveling leaps and bounds towards the improvisational journey that is a nearly 17-minute "Not Fade Away." 

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77 was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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  • #1031
    simonrob
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    Correct...

    This is where you comment on the latest Dave's Pick but it is also where you post anything that comes into your head. No organization, but you don't have to search the whole site for interesting stuff because its all here in one place.

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    Is there not any…

    Is there not any organization by topic here? I thought I was commenting on the latest Dave's Picks but it appears this is just a general word-salad-bar with non sequitur dressing...

  • #1033
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    New wave dance craze something something something

    it's still rock and roll to me

    Popped into my head

    Catholic Discipline quote is priceless. Coke was never appealing to me. "New Coke" new wave coke

    "'New wave' doesnt mean shit" he goes on to say

    Last 5 mon GD
    VU and Nico
    Metallica And justice for all (WHEREZ THE FUCKING BASS)
    Motorhead bomber
    Melvins the Maggot
    Yes Relayer

  • #1034
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    R & R Hall of Fame: in my (hugely expert) point of view, the people being inducted surely make the whole concept a farce. BUT on a cross-country jaunt maybe 18 years ago, driving a vehicle from Annapolis to Denver, my path crossed with the museum. A few highlights: a moldy valise with a noticeable bump in the upper lid, said to belong to Howlin' Wolf. He kept his gig cash in it and the bump was caused by a large-caliber handgun placed atop the cash. Mr. Wolf would place the valise under his chair on stage, the safest place for it, as the GD themselves would learn. That sez blues to me. Jimmy Reed's red Les Paul; just OMG! Then there was an exhibit of stage costumes previously worn by the Rolling Stones. Carefully curated, the outfits were displayed on the typical headless dummies. (GREAT band name....) The thing that struck me is that, from what I could tell, the Stones must all be around four and a half feet tall. YES! Rarely discussed fact. Those guys are basically midgets. Hang on, nothing pejorative here about midgets, but more the defrocking of rock 'n roll legends -- those boys could have acted in the Lord of the Rings with no costumes or makeup. Little-known fact: Bob Weir is also under 5 feet tall; he just looks big under the spotlights....

    Okay, the artwork on DPs does not really matter to me. But in light of the amazing artwork done for the PNW box, I really favor strong, simple graphics for CD cases due to size and proportion. The intricate cartooning -- especially skeletons -- is cliched and silly. Not to harsh anyone's pleasure if you enjoy it, but prehistoric indigenous imagery from various locations on the American homeland is possible and, to me, desirable. Blah blah!

    Lastly, the actual music on #41... killer, so far. I agree we're saturated with spring '77 and this was clearly an easy pick for the first release of the year so they could spend more time on whatever special projects they're cooking up. And followed by a '74 show with bonus disc is keeping me as a subscriber. I've only listened to disc one so far and based on sound quality and performance alone, I totally dug it. Would my choice be different, if given a guest spot making a Pick? Sure. But remember, Dave & Co. have to view these releases as installments in a long river of releases that eventually will go vastly different places. I almost fear what Dave has in mind when he mentions "variety." Either that's the month/year of upcoming releases (including the '22 box) or the format (video or vinyl of Euro '72 shows coming?).

    So, um, yeah, I'm most interested in a late '67, anything from '68 mini-box. I don't see Rhino greenlighting a full-on '68 box but a four-disc thing-y? Take my money! (And my brain. It's on a month-long February discount...)

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    2/4/70 Family Dog/ Nappys Blues

    2/4/70 was filmed by P.B.S. for a special called " San Francisco Rock, A Night at the Family .Dog". It was shown on television on 12/13/70 and included the Dead, Santana, and the Jefferson Airplane. only 3 songs were shown by the Dead, Hard to Handle and China Cat/ I know you Rider. This show was released on DVD a few years ago. I imagine that they filmed the whole show by the Dead and not just 3 songs, it would be great if this show could be released in its entirety, if it still exists. Nappy, to bad about Sam Lay, that first Butterfield Blues Band was one of the greatest bands of alltime, Not a whole lot of those older guys left. Charlie Musslewhite is still going strong, he put out a CD with Elvin Bishop a couple of years ago that's really good.

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    Da Blooze...Pt 1

    Forgive me my piping in late on this previous topic of discussion but I've been having PC issues and I really don't like typing on my phone with my paws...first of all we lost two great Bluesmen last week...Jimmy Johnson was a great singer and guitarist, Born 1928...if you can get a chance, listen to his Storyville album "Tobacco Road"...great live club recordings from Chicago '77....the other Bluesman lost was the Great Drummer Sam Lay, born 1935...he recorded with everyone in Chicago...he was also the drummer for the first Paul Butterfield Blues Band LP recorded in 1965...Sail On Sirs...Sail on...Mas blues talk later....

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    re: #41

    What Jimmy said.

    Be Well People!
    Sixtus

  • #1038
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    New wave

    Gonna wave, gonna wave
    Gonna wave to the wind

    :)

  • #1039
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    New Wave Goodbye

    Claude Bessy, aka Kickboy Face (lead singer of Catholic Discipline and editor of LA punk zine Slash in the '70s) pretty much said it all about 'new wave':

    "There was never any such thing as New Wave. It was the polite thing to say when you are trying to explain you were not into the boring old rock-n-roll, but, you didn't dare to say punk because you were afraid to get kicked out of the fucking party and they wouldn't give you coke anymore."

    I remember those parties, sort of. Last five:

    Wayne Shorter: The All Seeing Eye
    GOGD: DaP 34 bonus disc
    Ty Segall: Harmonizer
    Neil Young: On the Beach
    GOGD: DaP 41

    I could while away the hours, conversin' with the flowers, consulting with the raiiiiiin

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    If it's a problem (US Blues), the go through the trouble.. work the metadata and place it where it belongs. If you are a physical media person than burn a new copy sans USBlues and toss it in the 6 disc changer instead of the original. It takes about 20 min tops. Keep the original so you don't scratch or damage it and all is good with the world.

    I might not have put the Dave's Picks 40 leftover on this particular release, but these are first world problems to be sure. It's not that hard to grab it, relabel, etc. and put it where it belongs or not.

    As for liking this release, 77 is not on my radar for a host of reasons, but every now and then it really does scratch the itch. '77 for me is the practically perfect GD band otherwise known as my supermodel ex-girlfriend. We don't date anymore but when we reconnect, I am rarely disappointed. I like my GD warts and all and value risk over stability, but that's just me. I doubt if I listen to this day in and day out but this is top shelf GD. I would put it very much on par with Dave's Picks 1.. the main difference being Scarlet>Fire vs. Estimated>Eyes but both shows are solid and rock from start to finish, no warts.. practically perfect in every way. But that's just my brain wrapping itself around this problem, interpretations vary. What you think and how you process it is 100% correct, no wrong answers.

    Worthy GD. A monumental release. Now can we get some warty 1968 for goodness sakes? Trip or Freak GD Please.... Less on the worthy, more on the worth it. :D

    edit: in a pinch, 69 or 70 would suffice.

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You can listen to Grateful Dead records over and over again and never understand the attraction they have for certain people until you attend one of their concerts. Sometime during the Dead's usual five-hour set, it will all click: Jerry Garcia's Indian bead string of notes on the guitar, the ozone ooze of the vocal harmonies, the shifting, shuffling rhythm of bassist Phil Lesh and drummer Bill Kreutzmann, and the distant echo of the oldest of American folk music. - Columbia Flier

"Certain people" will know that we're coming in hot with one that's got all these things and more, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77. Yes, there's still plenty of spectacular May '77 to go around. Nearly chosen for Dave's Picks Vol. 1, 5/26/77 delivers three-fold. There's one count for the energy - all the precision of the Spring tour conjuring up the raw power of the Fall tour that was to come. There's another for the setlist which featured beloved songs from WORKINGMAN'S DEAD and soon-to-be favorites from the freshly recorded TERRAPIN STATION. And a third for its element of surprise (or shall we say surprises) from an astonishingly peak 15-minute "Sugaree" to new delights ("Sunrise," "Passenger," "Jack-A-Roe') to a rare first-set finale of "Bertha" to the second set's "Terrapin>Estimated>Eyes," traveling leaps and bounds towards the improvisational journey that is a nearly 17-minute "Not Fade Away." 

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77 was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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Submitted by J3FF on Fri, 02/04/2022 - 23:02

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My prior post was about DP41. And my follow-up comment you saw was because I keep holding out hope that Dave or someone else at the company will read one of my product comments... but when comments about the product get buried in an avalanche of unrelated discussion, it seems even more unlikely that anyone at Dead-dot-net would ever hear product feedback.

Not saying you guys aren't entertaining... I enjoyed your responses and certainly don't want to rain on any parades... just that I would ALSO like a way to get product feedback back to the folks I send lots of my money to.

Annnnd... I just found the customer service email... so I guess I'll give that a shot for customer feedback and come back here after I've had a chance to think carefully about my position on pork chops.
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Submitted by simonrob on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 05:56

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It is widely assumed that the powers that be do see what gets posted on here, but there is no definite proof of this as far as I know. Certainly they never communicate with us via these boards. As for customer service, I think that is outsourced. Contact with customer service is via a contact form that can be found under "help/customer service" at the very bottom of the page. You can also find "feedback" at the bottom of the page. By clicking on that you can send feedback about anything you choose. Maybe that is what you were looking for. Certainly it has to be worth a try.

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Submitted by LedDed on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 07:09

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This is as good as the Dead ever played. 1977 may be their zenith as live performers... by 1978 I hear a certain element of fatigue and overindulgence creeping in. From somewhere between late 1971 to 1973 and 1977, it was the best it would ever be. Disc 3 here is so good, I've earmarked it for newbies and people who dismiss the band as sloppy.

Been listening to a ton of Little Feat lately. Awesome, underrated band especially when Lowell George was still with them.

Happy weekend everyone!

\m/

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 07:40

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Monitors at least. Dave might read this stuff. But in the long run, I don't any of the ptb have any fux to give about our salad de wourde.

Outside I hear a massive cacophony of crows (this is a fact)

Crows told me. About 80 of them flew overhead when I was out with the dog: "Time to pop the shrinkwrap on 41, bitch!"

:)))

Recall that Norman responded once to admit that he did in fact jack up the bass on 8-25-72.

And several years ago Marye relayed us a message indicating that (at the time) Rhino/WMG weren’t really interested in processing the video Vault for commercial release.

It was during one of those times that we were discussing the release of video, much like a week or two ago, and as we frequently do, to keep getting the message out that we want more video.
We got a taste with the Giants Box, and some teasers for Shakedown Stream.

I think that streaming or download is the way to go for the 90’s shows that are a recording of the video feed during the show (which includes the computer generated graphics mixed in).
For physical product we still need complete, or as close as possible, audio/video Boxes of:
Winterland October 74
Fall 80
Alpine 89
Tinley Park 90
And everything with Pigpen

I have that Family Dog DVD, it’s grate. If video of the whole shows exists get it out there.
And everything from Europe like Rockpalast and 72.

LedDed,
I like the Little Feat show from Rockpalast.

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Submitted by carlo13 on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 10:12

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Sounds great so far. Tonight I will listen to 2nd set. As far as the HOF, what a joke. Ted nugent said recently, "MC5 is nominated, but triumph is not?" Very true. Triumph was a great band. Rik emmet played a flying V guitar for christ sakes.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 10:49

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Saw them at Klienhans Music hall, where the philharmonic plays (very small) on 7/7/79.
(Dead played there with the philharmonic On 3/17/70. I saw my first Bobbie show there on election night 1980)

Since Triumph were perhaps more used to playing hockey rinks etc, they had pyrotechnics which they blew off opening song, and thus instantly completely filled the tiny smoke free venue with a cloud of smoke so thick we were having a hard time breathing up in the balcony LOL. Almost had to stop the show right there!
It was like something out of Spinal Tap: clueless rock band almost stops show first song at historic Music hall
God I love Rock and Roll!

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Submitted by daverock on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 11:12

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Now there's a rock n' roll hall of fame type of guy ! I'd never heard of Triumph up until 2 minutes ago. And in 2 minutes time I will have forgotten about them again. Unless of course there is a heated debate on here about their pros and cons.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 12:06

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....now there's a band I haven't heard of for a long, long time. Thanks for that. Checking out Allied Forces now.
Got the house to myself for the first time in a long time. I heard my amp goes to 11.
Music is the best. Currently partial to some 79-84 new wave/hair metal/punk, so Triumph fits the bill. Remember Fastway?
Let's get heated. The Early '80's is in my wheelhouse. I'll take stuff I'm knowledgeable about for $500 Alex.
Edit. I miss record stores.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 12:23

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....don't mind if I do!
Anyone here remember Saxon? They used to toss their guitars to each other onstage. And Biff Byford has a voice for the ages.
Oh. And so did Jerry.
Apologies to J3FF btw. I didn't scroll back far enough. My bad.

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Submitted by nitecat on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 12:42

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I saw Fela Kuti twice, once at the Berkeley Community Theater in '86, once at the Warfield in 90. Not rock, but very exciting polyrythmic music with nice melodies on guitar. He was quite a character, a real showman in an eccentric way. While the music was happening around him, he would stalk the stage, singing and talking about social issues. I taped both shows, and my friend has been bugging me to digitize them so he can hear them.

I listened to the third CD last night again, and it's a winner! Nice smooth transitions between songs, great guitar work, especially in eyes and the very sweet, if a little short, encore of Uncle John's. I started playing it at 10;30 pm, and my housemate, who was about to go to bed, stayed up for the entire set, entranced.

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Submitted by carlo13 on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 12:55

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Allied forces is your classic american 70s/80s keg party music. Rock on V. Fastway-say what you will- has a video with hot chicks on an assembly line of beauty. Oh to be in my twenties again.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 12:59

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....I think Whitesnake has a patent on that. Rock on indeed.
Triumph has some damn good riffs.
Can I change my username to Flying V?
BRB.

....that no one had mentioned the gatefold on the Baltimore release.
Awesome pic. 👌
I'm going into the third disc. Will comment live.
"But he cannot be bought or sold."
"Inspiration. Move me brightly."

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 13:20

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...."two, four, six. Don't worry about me no."

....GDTRFB with a palate cleanser.
Someone earlier said UJB was cut short. I agree.
Awesome Not Fade. Four 🌟 🌟 🌟 🌟's out of four or so.

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Submitted by FiveBranch on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 15:15

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From not having listened to May '77 in quite a while, I was yet again blown away at how clean the music is. It's like they are saying 'Hey doubters! We too can play like this. When we want'. Jerry in particular. Just firing away with precision first set. And check out how solid those lines are in Terrapin. That bold lead allows the rest of the band to just naturally fall off to decorate the wake behind what he's pulling forward front and center. Those perfectly placed and timed sustains. Love 'em. And the last minute or so of GDTRFB is quite the surprise!

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Submitted by carlo13 on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 16:25

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The sopranos had a quote about Maryland. Tony Sopranos father-in-law said "In the army, russ had a case of the crabs so bad that they called him the governor of maryland.".

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 21:05

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....takes off sometimes 🚀.
Edit. Just finished watching Disney's Encanto at my son's behest.
7.7/10. Good songs 🎵.

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Submitted by nappyrags on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 22:42

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Just me and my headphones....A CM Board...Second Set Only...whew....

Grateful Dead
War Memorial Auditorium
Buffalo, NY
September 26, 1981

--Set 2--
Playing in the Band ->
Bertha ->
Estimated Prophet ->
Goin' Down the Road (Feeling Bad) ->
Drums ->
Space ->
Not Fade Away ->
Morning Dew ->
Playing in the Band ->
One More Saturday Night
--Encore--
Johnny B. Goode

Beauty eh!
Was fortunate to be at that one.
It shows up a lot via Dave and Sirius etc, and ranks high in surveys…

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sun, 02/06/2022 - 11:12

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Ja, gerne

I had it on cassette for a long time

A little speedy and almost no Phil

Soundboard out there?

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Submitted by Dennis on Sun, 02/06/2022 - 13:18

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I checked my copy, meh. Checked archive,,, the copy with 22,335 downloads had the best sound,,,, maybe not for the whole show. Miller seem to have a good sound second set.

later

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sun, 02/06/2022 - 16:46

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Nice work Dennis.

The sign says long-haired hippie people need not apply.
But short-haired upstanding citizens? Welcome aboard.

I’m pulling a Vguy and have sports on (Olympics) with sound muted, and GOGD playing.
Just finished 1-3-70%, now on 6-15-76.

Got 5-26-77 processed and on my music player. Played it today and it sounded spectacular. Lots of Phil coming out of the subwoofer. Precision jamming. Yes, the NFA is mighty fine, as commented on by others previously.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 02/06/2022 - 21:24

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....aww shucks and thingies.
I bought an acoustic Yamaha today btw. An entry level one. Also had an electric Ibanez Roadstar II handed down to me by my late father in law restrung. Found his old Peavey amp in the spare room closet to boot. Time to stop thinking about it and actually do it.
Winter Olympics are fun and treasures can be found in random closets.
I used to carve on a snowboard....but not like these pros. It's cool when they land a 720 to the beat of whatever im currently playing on my stare-ee-o. Which happens to be a phish Tweezer.
Step into the freezer.
Edit. 1620 degree jumps. Poetry in motion.

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Submitted by wadeocu on Mon, 02/07/2022 - 06:55

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I had a chance to listen to the whole release in one day yesterday. When the filler came up I was into it. I kind of liked the way the NFA chant faded in giving a nod to the jam highlight of the release - NFA! I like filler. Liked it on my tapes and like it on my discs. Otherwise you can get to ripping and burning to scratch yer itch. And on the subject of NFA - wow - this could be an all time NFA>GDTRFB! Dig Phil channeling Caution upon the return to NFA at about the 15 minute mark! So on the subject of filler I like to quote Uncle Bobo himself: "mua, mua, mua"!!!

My guesses would be:

April '78
April '69
Oct. '89
Summer '85

But, you know what they say: Good things come to those who....Pester, Pester, Pester! :-)

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Submitted by deadegad on Wed, 02/09/2022 - 06:31

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Dear Dave L: A September 1979 3 show run in N.Y.C. @ MSG would be a great mini-boxset. These were Brent's first N.Y.C. shows and at MSG to boot. They were very solid shows: The GD Came, Saw, Conquered!!! As another poster noted Steve Parish' Harley was parked on stage and someone gunned the engine multiple times during the show and it was noticed by the audience and would be audible. Cool. Period.

Pester, pester, pester because this squeaky wheel will get that oil!

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