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    You can listen to Grateful Dead records over and over again and never understand the attraction they have for certain people until you attend one of their concerts. Sometime during the Dead's usual five-hour set, it will all click: Jerry Garcia's Indian bead string of notes on the guitar, the ozone ooze of the vocal harmonies, the shifting, shuffling rhythm of bassist Phil Lesh and drummer Bill Kreutzmann, and the distant echo of the oldest of American folk music. - Columbia Flier

    "Certain people" will know that we're coming in hot with one that's got all these things and more, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77. Yes, there's still plenty of spectacular May '77 to go around. Nearly chosen for Dave's Picks Vol. 1, 5/26/77 delivers three-fold. There's one count for the energy - all the precision of the Spring tour conjuring up the raw power of the Fall tour that was to come. There's another for the setlist which featured beloved songs from WORKINGMAN'S DEAD and soon-to-be favorites from the freshly recorded TERRAPIN STATION. And a third for its element of surprise (or shall we say surprises) from an astonishingly peak 15-minute "Sugaree" to new delights ("Sunrise," "Passenger," "Jack-A-Roe') to a rare first-set finale of "Bertha" to the second set's "Terrapin>Estimated>Eyes," traveling leaps and bounds towards the improvisational journey that is a nearly 17-minute "Not Fade Away." 

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77 was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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  • #781
    PT Barnum
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    moving fast

    so much, DMCVT enjoy those meds, had stones 20 years ago, passed most of them, quite painful but after being able to relieve oneself again without pain or dribbles is great. Hated it when they said no more meds, love those Percocet.
    Billy 82' was a great year, saw a show in Nov. of that year, First Passenger for me.
    All this box talk has really got me thinking about an early box Primal Dead, awesome choices, but I would love some 1970 Dead too, those Spring shows at the universities, the summer Festival Express shows have been touched on but there were some great shows with that train trip that need furthur exploration. The fall of 70 also great shows there too, lots to choose from and we have really only gotten Jan. 70 with Dave's if I remember right (which is highly suspect nowadays)
    Also those European tours from 81 and 90, both have some fine music and we haven't seen anything from those tours and the 90 tour has Bruce so could scratch a couple itches at once. There are a lot of eras that we haven't heard and I think variety is the spice of life, although just about any Dead is good dead to me.
    Learned to type in 72 and back then, 2 spaces after a period to start a new sentence, now, only one so it is hard for an old dog to learn new tricks but will try. lol
    Keep those last 5's coming. Here's mine:
    Box of Frogs - 1st
    Bloodrock - Bloodrock
    Trapeze - Medusa
    Pat Travers - Radioactive
    Greg Lake - 1st
    Todd Rundgren - Todd
    that's six, but it's been a while I know it's early, but I've got spring fever...

  • #782
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    Re: HF/PNW68 Tapes

    This was discussed during the Road Trips Vol. 2 No. 2 announcement. I might check the liner notes, but I don't think that's where it popped up because most of this in on the Bonus Disc.

    Someone out there help me clear up my failing memory, but what I recall is Dave saying someone found a box of tapes at either one of the theatres or perhaps (more likely) a studio somewhere. Like they were left behind after mixing Anthem of the Sun. I believe they recorded the whole tour on multi-track, 8 Track to be precise. I'm flying on memory which should scare us all.. I also think this wasn't too far removed from the Houseboat Tapes which was released late in 2005, so returned reels were still a thing.

    So I hold out hope that somewhere, more of these gems exist or perhaps instead of pulling one or two songs they could piece together a complete show or three.

    My four cents.. please someone out there either confirm or deny my memory of this.

    Peace. Stay warm, stay safe. Speaking of peace, FU Count Vlad!

  • #783
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    I've lost the faith a bit

    I'm struggling with the Dead at the moment. Post '74 has never really been my thing, the 1977 Winterland box is OK and I really liked those actual Winterland boxes, they're a nice size, but I really can't settle and listen to any GD at the moment. I first heard Europe'72 in 1974 and have been a big fan since then but now I don't know. Maybe It'll come back. My St Louis box is not far from the Missouri river in Columbia MO at the moment, at my sister's house, that's how I get round the import taxes here in England. Haven't gone to pick it up yet, maybe she'll bring it over next time she visits. Fox Theatre 1972 was always a big favourite of mine.

    Last 5

    Molasses-A Slow Messe
    Dylan-disc 2 More Blood More Tracks deluxe box
    The Who-Tommy
    John Eliot Gardiner-Bach Cantata Pilgrimage Vol 10
    Mogwai-Come On Die Young

    The 5 records I reckon I've played the most times over the last 50 years

    Love-Forever Changes (the winner by a mile)
    Talk Talk-Spirit of Eden
    Dylan-Blood on the tracks
    Spirit-Spirit of '76
    Traffic-John Barleycorn Must Die

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    Somebody said we "shouldn't threaten Dave..."

    Why the hell not?? He's out there, rolling around on logs and mossy rocks and looking for eagles. Why not cuff him a bit around the ears and order him back to the Vault to dig out the '68 tapes? He's Canadian, he won't fight back (oh, wait...).

    Okay, 6 brief communiques and I swear I'll stop (!):

    Mr. Ones: "ultimate souvenir," awesome phrase, could be lascivious or a band name.

    JimInMD: how long ago did Dave mention PNW '68 tapes?? Are "one-offs" simply one reel of several for a show? (The OSF just revealed the number of reels used in their various outputs and it surprised me. The average is 11 reels per release, but vary from 2 reels to 32 reels or something like that. I'd guess the faster the tape (71/2, 15 ips) the better the sound...)

    DMCVT: glad you're healing! Good John Hammond story. I've got a pretty good one for another time. I interviewed him for a Jimi-dedicated magazine.

    Icecreamed: Yes, the solution is TWO boxes per year, one small, one large-ish. Rule: small box MUST contain Pigpen material...

    Proudfoot: I sure hope "Public Castration is a Good Idea" is the title of a CD, not your new mantra.

    DaveRock: I needed something meditative and new to play around with. When the pandemic started, I taught myself to fingerpick on the back porch. Lately, getting better acquainted with the fretboard and slide in standard tuning is a challenge. I put the Gretsch through a Tube Screamer for tone and a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe and use a short, fat glass slide (Ernie Ball). I'm just doing 12-bar blues in open position, then doing some Elmore-type licks higher up, staying within the rhythm using a metronome. Takes some work, but the payoff is there. What I love about learning guitar (I picked it up ~17 years ago in my late 40s) is that whatever you put in, you get like 5x back. Great ROI! Plus it feeds the soul. Have a crappy day? Pick up the guitar and feel better.)

    Maybe Vguy could try crushing the stovepipe can into his head. Or at least do a doctored video of such an act.....

  • #785
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    Good combination

    HF - that's a great combination...to have seen the band so many times and in 1973, one of their peak years. Also, maybe, being young at the time. Bands I saw when I was, say 15-18 had a massive impact on me - that's from 1972-1975. Although I got into The Dead in 1976, it was through records only, and I didn't know anyone else who liked them. Bit of private interest in a way.

    Mr Ones - I too would get anything from 1967-1970...make that 1974. I would get any of the 5 shows I actually saw from 1981-1990...and maybe other shows from those European tours, too. Apart from that....I might get some more 1976 onwards shows...but not before checking out what it was, and what people said about it in Deadheads Compendium etc.

    Incidentally-HF- that's a good idea, playing slide in standard on your Gretsch. I knackered my left hand overplaying mine last week - its has a slightly higher action than normal for me - ouch! - so rather than let it gather dust I should try what you do.

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    Swans feel good now
    Swans public castration is a good idea
    Motorhead inferno
    Husker Du zen arcade
    Husker Du new day rising

    Raw sounds for raw times

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    Stone ipa stovepipes

    I love these 19.2oz stovepipe cans of west coast ipa from stone brewing. I'd like to see Belushi crush one of these bad boys on his skull.

  • #788
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    My 3¢

    Started as 2¢ but inflation……

    I listen to all years, and think that the 1-Box-per-year model isn’t enough. A 2-3 show Box and a 5-10 show Box every year, along with the Dave’s subscription would be just exactly perfect. And some video too, please.

    All years sell out eventually, Dave/Rhino seem to be doing pretty good on the production numbers for a given era.
    I think that Giants Stadium sold out faster than PNW. 76 was a hit and St. Louis will sell out eventually.
    We are due some 67–69 at this point.

    A Bruce Box is absolutely needed in the near future, and the 2-Box-per-year model will make it possible to keep everyone happy.

    And more video Dave/Rhino!

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    near normal now

    Thanks for kind words and my apologies if sharing TMI last night. Pushing 70, am not conversant with hospital grade pain meds, never was (they took very good care of me) and I did have a driver. My vision of a 60s box is much like HF wrote below, six or nine discs of 60s material, we already know there are partial sets, or short sets that could be a stitched together. Would love to see some photos of those early venues as well. Playing a little catch up here, there's a great look at some Gram Parsons back story on a website easily found mrporterdotcom, which includes his bromance with Keith Richards, Stones music, great photos.

    Love to know more about the refinement of the processing Jeffrey Norman uses to bring us such great recordings, just barely aware that it started out as a way to correct inherent distortions of analog recording. Surely it has progressed far past that, there's a story there.

    recent music:
    Charlie Haden's Montreal Tapes with Geri Allen led me to:
    Three Pianos for Jimi: Geri Allen and the Batson Brothers (not your typical Hendrix tribute)
    Allman Brothers Band, Live from A&R Studios
    Bruce Katz Band Live at The Firefly
    Bruce is a truly gifted musician and teacher, there's a bunch of his great music out there.
    so, boring story: went to the 2016 North Atlantic Blues festival in Rockland Maine to meet an old friend who knows Bruce. Bruce was there to play with John Hammond Jr. We hung out with Bruce and his wife first night, got to know this great keyboard guy, born in Baltimore within a few weeks of my own birthday in D.C. Quickly discovered our first Dead show was the same, March 1973, Baltimore Civic Center. During that evening, before ever hearing Bruce play, he asks, where are you guys staying? Oh yeah, that's where John and his wife are staying... next morning we head to the little breakfast area and there is John Hammond Jr. and his wife. We do not bother them of course, but later, my friend drops the news that we were hanging with Bruce, looking forward to their performance that afternoon. John invites us over to chat and tells us a few stories over the end of breakfast. John met Jimi in NYC in 1966, before almost anyone knew about the immense potential about to supernova. John is a very fine bluesman, began to listen to him around 1970.
    We meet up with Bruce after the music is over and continue to hang. Bruce learns I live in Vermont, says I will be there in September with Les Brers in Rutland would you want to come? I am at the afternoon sound check, we meet for dinner before the show. Bruce tells me he is very concerned about drummer Butch Trucks, lots of stuff going on, way too much stress. One of the last Les Brers shows, Butch left the world a few months later. Derek's uncle. Guess all I am saying, this community right here, these connections, means a lot to many of us, life is precious, taking care of and with each other, it matters, no matter how small, pay kindness ahead. This is the spirit I felt at every Dead show, it was there in the seventies. And when i went to Dear Jerry a few years back at MPP I saw and felt it again. I still get shivers when I hear Jorma start that version of Sugaree, he was singing to his ole buddy.

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    Primal Box

    My Primal Box pipe dream is that there were more of those 8 tracks from the PNW Winter of 68 Tour. When Road Trips Vol. 2 No. 2 - 2/14/68 Carousel Ballroom was released, Lemieux indicated they found a box of 8 Tracks that were lost or mislabeled or something from the PNW tour, but most of what was included are one-offs.

    I think it's a long shot, but wouldn't it be grand if they were somehow able to piece together a few full shows from this tour recorded on early 8 track tapes?

    Primal Dave.. or we will be forced to taunt you a second time.

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You can listen to Grateful Dead records over and over again and never understand the attraction they have for certain people until you attend one of their concerts. Sometime during the Dead's usual five-hour set, it will all click: Jerry Garcia's Indian bead string of notes on the guitar, the ozone ooze of the vocal harmonies, the shifting, shuffling rhythm of bassist Phil Lesh and drummer Bill Kreutzmann, and the distant echo of the oldest of American folk music. - Columbia Flier

"Certain people" will know that we're coming in hot with one that's got all these things and more, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77. Yes, there's still plenty of spectacular May '77 to go around. Nearly chosen for Dave's Picks Vol. 1, 5/26/77 delivers three-fold. There's one count for the energy - all the precision of the Spring tour conjuring up the raw power of the Fall tour that was to come. There's another for the setlist which featured beloved songs from WORKINGMAN'S DEAD and soon-to-be favorites from the freshly recorded TERRAPIN STATION. And a third for its element of surprise (or shall we say surprises) from an astonishingly peak 15-minute "Sugaree" to new delights ("Sunrise," "Passenger," "Jack-A-Roe') to a rare first-set finale of "Bertha" to the second set's "Terrapin>Estimated>Eyes," traveling leaps and bounds towards the improvisational journey that is a nearly 17-minute "Not Fade Away." 

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77 was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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Submitted by J3FF on Fri, 02/04/2022 - 23:02

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My prior post was about DP41. And my follow-up comment you saw was because I keep holding out hope that Dave or someone else at the company will read one of my product comments... but when comments about the product get buried in an avalanche of unrelated discussion, it seems even more unlikely that anyone at Dead-dot-net would ever hear product feedback.

Not saying you guys aren't entertaining... I enjoyed your responses and certainly don't want to rain on any parades... just that I would ALSO like a way to get product feedback back to the folks I send lots of my money to.

Annnnd... I just found the customer service email... so I guess I'll give that a shot for customer feedback and come back here after I've had a chance to think carefully about my position on pork chops.
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Submitted by simonrob on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 05:56

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It is widely assumed that the powers that be do see what gets posted on here, but there is no definite proof of this as far as I know. Certainly they never communicate with us via these boards. As for customer service, I think that is outsourced. Contact with customer service is via a contact form that can be found under "help/customer service" at the very bottom of the page. You can also find "feedback" at the bottom of the page. By clicking on that you can send feedback about anything you choose. Maybe that is what you were looking for. Certainly it has to be worth a try.

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Submitted by LedDed on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 07:09

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This is as good as the Dead ever played. 1977 may be their zenith as live performers... by 1978 I hear a certain element of fatigue and overindulgence creeping in. From somewhere between late 1971 to 1973 and 1977, it was the best it would ever be. Disc 3 here is so good, I've earmarked it for newbies and people who dismiss the band as sloppy.

Been listening to a ton of Little Feat lately. Awesome, underrated band especially when Lowell George was still with them.

Happy weekend everyone!

\m/

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 07:40

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Monitors at least. Dave might read this stuff. But in the long run, I don't any of the ptb have any fux to give about our salad de wourde.

Outside I hear a massive cacophony of crows (this is a fact)

Crows told me. About 80 of them flew overhead when I was out with the dog: "Time to pop the shrinkwrap on 41, bitch!"

:)))

Recall that Norman responded once to admit that he did in fact jack up the bass on 8-25-72.

And several years ago Marye relayed us a message indicating that (at the time) Rhino/WMG weren’t really interested in processing the video Vault for commercial release.

It was during one of those times that we were discussing the release of video, much like a week or two ago, and as we frequently do, to keep getting the message out that we want more video.
We got a taste with the Giants Box, and some teasers for Shakedown Stream.

I think that streaming or download is the way to go for the 90’s shows that are a recording of the video feed during the show (which includes the computer generated graphics mixed in).
For physical product we still need complete, or as close as possible, audio/video Boxes of:
Winterland October 74
Fall 80
Alpine 89
Tinley Park 90
And everything with Pigpen

I have that Family Dog DVD, it’s grate. If video of the whole shows exists get it out there.
And everything from Europe like Rockpalast and 72.

LedDed,
I like the Little Feat show from Rockpalast.

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Submitted by carlo13 on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 10:12

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Sounds great so far. Tonight I will listen to 2nd set. As far as the HOF, what a joke. Ted nugent said recently, "MC5 is nominated, but triumph is not?" Very true. Triumph was a great band. Rik emmet played a flying V guitar for christ sakes.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 10:49

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Saw them at Klienhans Music hall, where the philharmonic plays (very small) on 7/7/79.
(Dead played there with the philharmonic On 3/17/70. I saw my first Bobbie show there on election night 1980)

Since Triumph were perhaps more used to playing hockey rinks etc, they had pyrotechnics which they blew off opening song, and thus instantly completely filled the tiny smoke free venue with a cloud of smoke so thick we were having a hard time breathing up in the balcony LOL. Almost had to stop the show right there!
It was like something out of Spinal Tap: clueless rock band almost stops show first song at historic Music hall
God I love Rock and Roll!

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Submitted by daverock on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 11:12

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Now there's a rock n' roll hall of fame type of guy ! I'd never heard of Triumph up until 2 minutes ago. And in 2 minutes time I will have forgotten about them again. Unless of course there is a heated debate on here about their pros and cons.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 12:06

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....now there's a band I haven't heard of for a long, long time. Thanks for that. Checking out Allied Forces now.
Got the house to myself for the first time in a long time. I heard my amp goes to 11.
Music is the best. Currently partial to some 79-84 new wave/hair metal/punk, so Triumph fits the bill. Remember Fastway?
Let's get heated. The Early '80's is in my wheelhouse. I'll take stuff I'm knowledgeable about for $500 Alex.
Edit. I miss record stores.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 12:23

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....don't mind if I do!
Anyone here remember Saxon? They used to toss their guitars to each other onstage. And Biff Byford has a voice for the ages.
Oh. And so did Jerry.
Apologies to J3FF btw. I didn't scroll back far enough. My bad.

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Submitted by nitecat on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 12:42

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I saw Fela Kuti twice, once at the Berkeley Community Theater in '86, once at the Warfield in 90. Not rock, but very exciting polyrythmic music with nice melodies on guitar. He was quite a character, a real showman in an eccentric way. While the music was happening around him, he would stalk the stage, singing and talking about social issues. I taped both shows, and my friend has been bugging me to digitize them so he can hear them.

I listened to the third CD last night again, and it's a winner! Nice smooth transitions between songs, great guitar work, especially in eyes and the very sweet, if a little short, encore of Uncle John's. I started playing it at 10;30 pm, and my housemate, who was about to go to bed, stayed up for the entire set, entranced.

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Submitted by carlo13 on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 12:55

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Allied forces is your classic american 70s/80s keg party music. Rock on V. Fastway-say what you will- has a video with hot chicks on an assembly line of beauty. Oh to be in my twenties again.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 12:59

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....I think Whitesnake has a patent on that. Rock on indeed.
Triumph has some damn good riffs.
Can I change my username to Flying V?
BRB.

....that no one had mentioned the gatefold on the Baltimore release.
Awesome pic. 👌
I'm going into the third disc. Will comment live.
"But he cannot be bought or sold."
"Inspiration. Move me brightly."

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 13:20

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...."two, four, six. Don't worry about me no."

....GDTRFB with a palate cleanser.
Someone earlier said UJB was cut short. I agree.
Awesome Not Fade. Four 🌟 🌟 🌟 🌟's out of four or so.

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Submitted by FiveBranch on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 15:15

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From not having listened to May '77 in quite a while, I was yet again blown away at how clean the music is. It's like they are saying 'Hey doubters! We too can play like this. When we want'. Jerry in particular. Just firing away with precision first set. And check out how solid those lines are in Terrapin. That bold lead allows the rest of the band to just naturally fall off to decorate the wake behind what he's pulling forward front and center. Those perfectly placed and timed sustains. Love 'em. And the last minute or so of GDTRFB is quite the surprise!

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Submitted by carlo13 on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 16:25

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The sopranos had a quote about Maryland. Tony Sopranos father-in-law said "In the army, russ had a case of the crabs so bad that they called him the governor of maryland.".

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 21:05

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....takes off sometimes 🚀.
Edit. Just finished watching Disney's Encanto at my son's behest.
7.7/10. Good songs 🎵.

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Submitted by nappyrags on Sat, 02/05/2022 - 22:42

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Just me and my headphones....A CM Board...Second Set Only...whew....

Grateful Dead
War Memorial Auditorium
Buffalo, NY
September 26, 1981

--Set 2--
Playing in the Band ->
Bertha ->
Estimated Prophet ->
Goin' Down the Road (Feeling Bad) ->
Drums ->
Space ->
Not Fade Away ->
Morning Dew ->
Playing in the Band ->
One More Saturday Night
--Encore--
Johnny B. Goode

Beauty eh!
Was fortunate to be at that one.
It shows up a lot via Dave and Sirius etc, and ranks high in surveys…

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sun, 02/06/2022 - 11:12

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Ja, gerne

I had it on cassette for a long time

A little speedy and almost no Phil

Soundboard out there?

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Submitted by Dennis on Sun, 02/06/2022 - 13:18

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I checked my copy, meh. Checked archive,,, the copy with 22,335 downloads had the best sound,,,, maybe not for the whole show. Miller seem to have a good sound second set.

later

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sun, 02/06/2022 - 16:46

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Nice work Dennis.

The sign says long-haired hippie people need not apply.
But short-haired upstanding citizens? Welcome aboard.

I’m pulling a Vguy and have sports on (Olympics) with sound muted, and GOGD playing.
Just finished 1-3-70%, now on 6-15-76.

Got 5-26-77 processed and on my music player. Played it today and it sounded spectacular. Lots of Phil coming out of the subwoofer. Precision jamming. Yes, the NFA is mighty fine, as commented on by others previously.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 02/06/2022 - 21:24

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....aww shucks and thingies.
I bought an acoustic Yamaha today btw. An entry level one. Also had an electric Ibanez Roadstar II handed down to me by my late father in law restrung. Found his old Peavey amp in the spare room closet to boot. Time to stop thinking about it and actually do it.
Winter Olympics are fun and treasures can be found in random closets.
I used to carve on a snowboard....but not like these pros. It's cool when they land a 720 to the beat of whatever im currently playing on my stare-ee-o. Which happens to be a phish Tweezer.
Step into the freezer.
Edit. 1620 degree jumps. Poetry in motion.

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Submitted by wadeocu on Mon, 02/07/2022 - 06:55

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I had a chance to listen to the whole release in one day yesterday. When the filler came up I was into it. I kind of liked the way the NFA chant faded in giving a nod to the jam highlight of the release - NFA! I like filler. Liked it on my tapes and like it on my discs. Otherwise you can get to ripping and burning to scratch yer itch. And on the subject of NFA - wow - this could be an all time NFA>GDTRFB! Dig Phil channeling Caution upon the return to NFA at about the 15 minute mark! So on the subject of filler I like to quote Uncle Bobo himself: "mua, mua, mua"!!!

My guesses would be:

April '78
April '69
Oct. '89
Summer '85

But, you know what they say: Good things come to those who....Pester, Pester, Pester! :-)

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Submitted by deadegad on Wed, 02/09/2022 - 06:31

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Dear Dave L: A September 1979 3 show run in N.Y.C. @ MSG would be a great mini-boxset. These were Brent's first N.Y.C. shows and at MSG to boot. They were very solid shows: The GD Came, Saw, Conquered!!! As another poster noted Steve Parish' Harley was parked on stage and someone gunned the engine multiple times during the show and it was noticed by the audience and would be audible. Cool. Period.

Pester, pester, pester because this squeaky wheel will get that oil!

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