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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • DeadVikes
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    Good to see you back in the loop. Hope all is well. New system is always exciting.
    I am willing to give Dave's 31 another try. Haven't listened to it since last year.

    Took out Good old Dave's 25, the BINGHAMTON NY 77 show. Some of these shows keep getting better with each listen.
    Oroborous, you are a wild man. What a ride!

    Be well folks. I have heard rumblings in other pages about big announcements coming. Don't know about that but we do know Dave's 35 will be announced in July. Maybe they will give Oroborous an 85 pick?

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    6.28.85 Hershey Park....

    ....another one of my first tapes. Bird Song-> Comes A Time -> Deal. A rare Garcia trifecta to end the first. Music Never Stopped-> Tom Thumbs to open the second. How do you guys keep bringing up my first loves? And why does this band keep following me?
    Here's kind of a story. I tripped balls listening to this tape in 1989. That's all I got.

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    You know it's on Dave's radar as he has played some of it on 30 Days in past years. Good show and one of my first tapes. Keep the stories coming! :-)

  • Oroborous
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    So after basically staying up for 2 days at SPAC, we finally pack it up and hit the road the next day. I believe it was a rainy, gloomy day most of the day. But that didn’t stop our idiot patrol from basically racIng at high speed through the fine but conservative state of Pennsytuckey, where they were one of the last to let go of the 55 mph laws, and back then there usually wasn’t much tolerance. So 2 cars of totally raging nutknicks, with probably enough cargo to keep us detained for decades, thought it’d be a good idea to race at speeds up to 90!, Idiots!.....yes, one car had a radar detector, but in those days smart cops would wait for some nut traveling high speed and click it on when they had ya dead nuts.
    Luckily, all was well and it was one more “miracle” as we earnestly pursued our quest for “too much of everything is just enough”, aaaa, never considered back then maybe Bob was being sarcastic? Lol
    So we roll on into Chocolate town late and all beat up. I’m guessing we grabbed some kind of drive through, but not sure and as we were hardcore vegetarian then, perhaps we thought we’d grab something there? It’s all such a blur, I do recall the lot we were in had no or little Shakedown action going on. That still wasn’t in full flight anyway, and don’t recall much there, so maybe we drank our supper? I know I scored some Carlsberg Elephant beer, and believe I may have finished it, though that is a tall order even under good conditions so perhaps not. I’m sure I put in dent in it at least! So, that and the last of one z of veggies, though the tricky part was it was mostly just powder and scraps and so no normal produce to properly gage etc, which would turn out to be a tactical error...
    So it’s late, we’re tired, but tweaked, perhaps no dinner, and of course it’s horrible out. Dark, rainy, and cold is usually not how you want to do your Dead. Eventually we get in perfect time, slip right in front of the SB and try to make the best of the situation. Well I had a shirt, a black baseball jacket, and the electric Buffalo Hyde, but even still it was damp and cold at first. Eventually, when things started to take hold and we started boogieing, we began to warm up a bit.
    Meanwhile, the set list is awesome, but the conditions, which necessitated all the stage and PA speakers being covered in plastic (there was no stage lid) thereby severely effecting the audio. It’s was such a weird show that way, loved the little “stadium” and the nice audiophile stereo set up, with surrounds, great set list, mostly good playing, yes JGs vocals are a little ruff in the first set, but you have to cut some slack as it was terrible, I mean depending on the wind/rain they were getting rained on playing electrical instruments! Weird indeed, but like so many times in adverse conditions our heroes seemed to rise to the challenge. Thus the playing was perhaps more relaxed, steady and together and not forced like the previous night. Really, besides JGs vocal issues in the first, its a top notch show!
    The second set really starts to take it higher with stellar versions of Music Never Stopped, Terrapin, Miracle and one of the best Dews I’ve ever seen! I think I saw about 14 or 15 Dews and when I think about Dews I’ve seen, this one is the one I always think of first! Rocking Stones/NFA with a spirited Day Job. I liked Day Job, but by now it was getting a tad old, and was a disappointment for this show considering how high it was at that point. A She Belongs or Baby Blue would of been a perfect Cherry on top, but perhaps that’s being greedy?
    Now since the weather was such a factor, we must discuss that and how it influenced this show. The second set starts out with their “signing in the rain” as Bob says, and it’s a good’n! Next they slowly slid into an unusual sounding Tom Thumbs which I had never heard yet, and wasn’t even sure at first what it was, but hey, it was Phil so that’s all I needed to know! Good but perhaps truncated Estimated, followed by an awesome Terrapin. So as the set started to progress, so did the weather until (I think?) around Estimated it really started to clear up and they started pulling the plastic tarps down. It was almost like you could immediately hear it get better after each one was removed. Eventually by about Terrapin, they tarps we’re gone, the moon and stars were out, and Healy started increasing the volume and tweaking the mix. I remember we were goading him to turn it up, and man eventually he sure did!
    As the night wore on it began to warm up a bit too. But as you’ve heard this scenario, or been there yourself, many times I didn’t feel quite high enough so what the hell, one more time with the powder veggie crumbles just before drums......hee-hee....you know, “I’m not feeling it?” and then...Dooah!
    So the problem with those baseball jackets is they don’t really breath and the electric Buffalo Hyde was thick plastic. We didn’t have all the nice technical outer gear we have now, or at least WE didn’t. I could barely afford the free plastic one from the old mans work.
    Well a perfect storm mounted; little or no food, Elephants, veggies etc, no sleep, excess everything and underlying exhaustion, with me starting to overheat due to the above and dancing with that plastic shell on. Things were going unbelievable well, and partly influenced by the very recent passing of my Grandfather, during Dew, things peaked musically, the sound, the night, the stars, emotionally etc etc until I had one of the most powerful musical/emotional/psychedelic peak experiences of my life. Perhaps my all time GD moment, it was that powerful. But what goes up must come down and just like that the radiator blew and that last handful of shroom dust fully kicked in and somewhere in Throwing Stones, right during ashes, ashes all fall down, well.....I say i didn’t really fall down, it was more like an immediate realization that if I don’t sit down rapidly, I’m going down! LOL, so one way or another, depending on who you believe, I end up down in the soft, cool mud until near the end of the song, but I swear just as I tried to get up I knew it wasn’t going to happen, so right on que again I go back down. My friends to this day always bring up my perfectly coreographed “Dance moves” above all else that happened on this tour..35 years later and it’s still “ashes, ashes, Pedro falls down” !
    That would of all been well and good except things were very strange and weren’t wearing off, and I was barely functioning. I never would of found the car etc If not for my homies. Honestly all I remember is them pulling into a Wendy’s or something, but I just sat in the car with my face literally stuck to the window and crackled! Zzzzttttt. I really thought I had finally fried some essential circuits and thought this time I really did it. At some point I snapped out enough to find some kids in another car staring at me with a look of concern if not fear. Luckily, the boys finished up and came out and got us outta there. Somewhere near the state line we finally grabbed a motel as we all had had more than enough rain and adversity. Plus the next day was off and the drive short. I remember they propped me up in bed and I just sat and crackled and worried. Eventually I slept and though I felt better the next day, I didn’t feel normal and don’t recall much except when we got to Merriweather and found a good spot just over the creek, right next to the path, in some trees, on the way to the big parking lots to the right of the venue. But now it was nice and I was feeling more normal so not so freaked out. I also remember going to a nearby sorta plaza with an upscale liquor store where I scored my first sixer of EKU 28 ever which was awesome!
    So now we’ve moved beyond the insanity of TOGA, the adversity and majesty of Hershey, and ready for perhaps the best overall show of the tour on 6/30/85....

    EDIT: Otis, congrats on the stereo. All that matters is if your happy with it. After all the specs and hyperbole etc, no matter how big, small, expensive etc, in the end, that’s all that counts!

  • Thats_Otis
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    Nice rec for the TDIGDH 6/28/76 show! I'd never heard that one before, and it is pretty sweet. The "Happiness is Drumming" is certainly a highlight!

    I have been out of the loop for a bit - trying to deal with some personal stuff on my end, and I just kind of lost track of things around these parts. I hope to be able to participate more going forward.

    To that end, how about a pick for tomorrow, Monday 6/29? I am thinking Dave's 31 - 12/3/79 Uptown. I feel like this pick got a short shrift on the DaP page, but I remember being very happy with it, though I haven't given it a proper listen since it first came out. What do you all think?

    One positive thing that I have accomplished since I've been away has been the set up of my first component stereo system. I don't know if it compares to all of your "big boy" systems, but it certainly feels BIG in my little row home! Looking forward to playing it LOUD tomorrow when the wife goes to work.

    Peace

  • Oroborous
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    Bode Miller...

    First, GOGD, I did not mean to single you out, over generalizations, which become stereotypes, which become truth etc, really bum me out. So it was more of a trigger to that, not you personally. I know you were just repeating this line.
    Actually, as I’ve dug in deeper, there are probably a significant number of shows where he often doesn’t sound so good, but to over generalize that “his voice was shot”, as in never more, to me, imho, that completely devalues and discounts all the amazing, great sounding stuff he was still able to do. 87,88,89,90,91anyone? Micro view versus macro perhaps?

    SECOND: I must humbly recant my tale of dancin in the rain. As we were diligently experiencing TOGA last night. Too things became apparent. First, perhaps JG was a tad “caffeinated” at the start of both sets. Listening close on a real system, (not the big boy, but the living room system which ain’t no slouch!), he seems a tad to fast and/or their not fully entrained. One could argue not fully so until Women Are?...so probably something to do with him totally skipping the Key Rain Storm, and Jailhouse versus, of Bertha, lol.
    Thus, while I wasn’t deceitful, I was not accurate. Sure enough, when Holmes and Watson ripped a spleef and fired up Bertha from SPAC 6/24/84, and bingo, ding, ding, ding, ding! Right venue, wrong year! 😂 Ooops, my apologies to the dear reader...but hey, it’s a fun interesting new tid bit, and it did rain, I think, lol.
    While doing this research I was listening just on the iPad and interestingly he doesn’t sound as bad? Also, I’ve been going with the HS matrixes, especially shows where I want to hear those crowd big moments. Generally they’ve been pretty good, but researching, I used a CM transfer and man, definitely a big difference. Perhaps number one being the speed/time of the Miller seemed better and more natural?
    Subjective I know, just that it’s interesting how every variable can effect perceptions.
    6/27/85: so this beast is still as much of a rocket sled ride as I’ve thought, but it’s perhaps a tad more unpolished then I would of said in the past. But that’s being picky, and you know I prefer danger dead to safe, so as at this moment, Hell in a bucket is scorching, I stick by this show for that, the cool set list, and the fact that eventually, say around Women Are on out, that part of the show stands with its lofty summer 85 neighbors. Probably have to give 6/24& perhaps 6/25? a slight advantage overall, but man I haven’t been to many shows that had the vibe, fun, and overall madness of this puppy.

    So why is 85 Dead like Bode Miller? He often was criticized for his erratic style, or lack thereof, his nonconformity, often disregard for the rules, including parting then basically going 80 MPH down an insane pitch, that was usually hosed down to make it more icy, and thus faster! So just like this era of Dead, sometimes he’d DQ, sometimes he’d slack off, sometimes it was ugly, but when he brought it, that mofo brought it!! and when he was able to be one with the force, it was fucking breathtaking! Scary, but breathtaking. No matter what, if he was racing there was an energy, an excitement, that larger than life vibe......that, to me, is 85 Dead.
    FINALLY: Ladies and Germs, May I present the Electric Buffalo Hyde! as christened by my degenerate cohort due to my resemblance of the great beast of the prairies back in the day, and this baby used to be so bright people would ask if there were batteries. But Alas, like youth itself it’s faded dramatically, and is old and bartered. It definitely gave it’s all to R&R. So many Dead shows, festivals, camping, parties, you name it! Also, it will be a part of an unfortunate situation at the next night, where I lost my shit in Hershey! So until then....

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    If you are too busy to listen to whole show, listen to Happiness is Drumming from set II, if you have never heard or listened to listen you will be pleasantly surprised!!! There is a Charlie Miller soundboard on Internet Archive!!!! bob t

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    Sounds like the ole SPAC '85 show will get some play today.

    Always a fun revisit. Vguy & Keithfan that was you guys?! That's funny.

    I guess I always thought this was an indoor show because of the balcony stuff and didn't know about the rain storm.

    Tell us more.

    And just for the record if I happen to say Jerry's voice is shot, what I mean to say is I love Jerry's voice, even though it's a little shot here. ;)

    I agree, it always sounds great to me.

    Enjoy party people!

  • Oroborous
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    We were out on the lawn so actually there were many drops, I mean it was already raining hard, and right when he sang that line, biblical!, but it just added to the madness and was one of my favorite concert/rain moments ever! I believe that’s right when folks crashed security on those balcony ramp ways and turned it into a free for all? Yeah, that was the shit, such energy all around, but that rain just took it to another level. Luckily I had my electric buffalo Hyde on! .....it was a psychedelic neon yellow long rain coat with
    BS CORP
    WORK SAFELY (from pops work) printed on back, and a Dancin skeleton sticker underneath that I added. Still have it! I should take a pic and post...fond it moving last year.

  • Oroborous
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    Deadheadbrewer: yeah, I’m with you, I can’t keep up with these rascals! Pant-pant 😉
    Haven’t done Riverbend, Nassau or Dane. Prolly give Nassau a spin this WE. Dane I’ve tried to stay away from cause ya gotta believe their going to give us that one someday! Bastards better! and I’d prefer it on virginal ears!
    hey, by the way, how you guys coming on that tunnel under the vault?
    So I listen to Riverbend 6/24/85 sort regularly so no biggie there except in the sense of comparing shows. Except It’s cool to go in order to see the subtle changes and how things progress. Like 6/25/85, definitely have felt a ascending arc since the first night in Alpine. Funny thing is I don’t think I’ve heard the second set of this one before? Had a tape of the first all along, but I think it was a tad too crisp so didn’t get as much love as the shows around it. Plus I think maybe I harbored some subliminal resentment for the show because of our decision to skip it to go to Toga early like we did in 84, which was awesome. Obviously if it made us skip a show that close to home, but Doooaahhh. So not sure how it’s the shows fault. LOL, but I think somehow I’ve had some weird thing about this show that has kept me away? Sorry, ramblings of a deranged lunatic!
    Anywho, finally gave this bad boy a spin yesterday, though had to do it in 2 sessions as life just keeps buttin’ in like a 3 year old when mom and dad are trying to get down! Man what a show. The only really noticeable hiccup I recall was JG at the start of Jimmy, and Bob missed a vocal, really a great set, better than I remember, though I always liked it, just the tape was lesser then the others...
    Second set was hot too, though perhaps they lost just a little near the end? Or maybe that was me as it was late, and by that time on a Friday this ole cowboy is usually not feeling much pain! I recall a couple little blemishes, but so what, you name any show, anyone, and I can find stuff wrong. And sorry, but I’m kinda over hearing about how terrible JGs voice is. Yes, sometimes it’s ruff, but sometimes I think the gravelly age worn voice ADDs to the affect of the songs, which is perhaps what he did best. And frankly, I’ll take the gravel voice singing in tune over a lot of that 1970 stuff we’re between the guitars and the vocals something is ALWAYS out of tune. That’s torturous for a musician.
    Now I’m not trying to diss anyone’s favorite Dead etc, just stating an opinion that people perhaps overdo it with the voice comments. My favorite is when people say “I can’t listen to anything after 77”....ok, we’ll that’s cool as it’s your choice and all, but I’d say really you just have made up your mind you don’t want to like anything after that, and you probably haven’t heard enough and with the right kind of ears. Seriously, I challenge anyone to pick a “perfect” “best of “ show and if I have time I will find the cracks!
    But that’s missing the point which is ITS ALL GOOD! and every era has something positive that the others don’t have. It’s all ways been yin yang folks, there is no such thing as a perfect show, except in our minds eye, which is quite A ok.
    Ok, rant over, I’m obviously biased about my beloved 85!
    Which brings us back to TOOOOOOOGGGGAAAAA!! Yo Butch, back in your seat, there’s 50 thousand people waiting for you to get back in your seat! Madness, the whole scene there was just surreal fucking madness, but in a good way.
    I’m actually going to try and call my old house/band mates at the time as we all went. 2 I think went to blossom, and Pittsburgh. That one too, like WTF basically could of stopped by on the ride home from Merriweather, idiots! Lol, actually, I’m not sure I could have done another show. I may have caused permanent damage at Hershey, and thank god for that day off that I can’t recall much about, and I did take it a tad easier after, but not much. We ate so many veggies on that run that nobody would believe it. But I know what I came with and what was left after so.....looking back, it’s all kinda scary, we’re lucky we never had any real casualties of any sort. Few close calls, but nothing major, phewwww.
    So going to call the lads, and fire up Toga tonight as We have to do a Zoom wedding this afternoon. We were supposed to be out at the Promised land for said wedding and a actual vacation, first since Seattle in ?? 2012!
    Think Homer Simpson “oohhhh, Ssstttooooopid Covid”
    Speaking of living via the net, was that not a fine show on Shakedown last night! Didn’t have the fire like the night before, but a fine well played outing, thanks so much to Dave and Co. for giving us this nice diversion. It’s getting to b3 a regular weekly thing, and gasp, the Mrs has actually been joining me and digging it! .....as long as I give her a good foot massage (usually during drums). She really digs the trippy graphics and colors which is even funnier as she’s never partaken except booze back in da day, it’s like giving a kid castor oil just getting her to have a beer, lol. So yeah, this Friday thing has been like the “ONE” in our music! Right on! and please keep em coming!
    Ok, gotta try and call the guys and reminisce before the wedding. Then.....drum rolls please..........TOOooooGa!

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Got email from amazon about the expanded Shakedown Street. Found this description. This might have been here before.

Following the Dead's early Warner Bros. LP's and their evolution from a San Francisco hippie phenomenon to one of the biggest bands on the planet, these five album masterpieces chronicle the creatively expansive portion of their long, strange, and amazing trip beginning in 1873 when they launchd their own label. Rhino's remastered & expanded editions celebrate the Dead's immortal music with state-of-the-art sonics and a wealth of fresh-from-the-archives bonus rarities.

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Good to hear from ya, we were/are worried.
Hopefully things are as well as can be in da DV crib?

Have to go down to the flatlands today—(first time past the divide in almost 2 years)— so 4/2/89 will cover half the trip! I’ll try and recall what little I can and report back tonight or tomorrow.

DENNIS: Nice get up, every girl crazy bout that sharp dressed man!
Yer only as old as the girl ya feel…
But “ I can tell your future….” except, what exactly is that in your hand?

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is a fine piece of Hoss glass. This marvelous milk pink 18" tall beaker bong was bought direct from Hoss. They have a blowout page on their site. Great deals for thing that have slight defect. That one has a minor scratch in the name label. Got it for 60 bucks!!

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Thanks for checking OB.

We are moving in the right direction out here. Hopefully we can put this behind us soon.
Have not cued up BP.

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The go to campground for Alpine Valley Shows.

(just had to fit that one in)

Or Bolo might not give us another chance.

So.. senor Bolo.. could we perhaps pick a new show and have a do-over? We cannot promise not to cheat, but we can at least pretend to try harder.

How about it...?

Or was it the fact that we used the word Bong that silenced the thread.. in my defense, Richard Bong was a WWII hero, perhaps the most decorated US combat flier. So what if he sparked up before each mission.. :D

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Who has a pick out there today?

The two shows from the Igloo from Download Series #9 are highly recommended. Great April 89 shows.

Looking back, seems like a lifetime ago.
I miss those days.

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I thought so, but couldn’t be sure that it wasn’t some kinda feminine enjoyment product ; )

89 Burg shows. Quite the blur DV? I remember I went with Mr Bellman, lead guitar for the Wild Knights, perhaps the best Dead band ya never heard of. I had just started a new job and really needed the bread after not working all fall and still paying for the fall 88 Florida shows/trip etc, so had zero time off.
So had to pull the old get up, find a quiet pay phone and call in well to work routine, “cough, cough, sorry Louie, not feeling to well” LOL.
Yeah, I liked working there and needed the job at the time, but boy I missed some good shows that year because of it.
I’m pretty sure it was GA on the floor? I think we were up sorta up close on the Phil side, but I’m not sure?
Remember something about the Blow Away, but not much specific about the shows?
Remember we liked the shows and felt like the band were continuing their forward momentum that would peak by the next spring, but didn’t think they were mind blowing? I think I recall liking the second show better? I’ll have to give that one another listen. Started to but lost my wallet on my trek to the flatlands Tuesday, so had to abort tunes yesterday.

Been digging 41 lately but definitely up for something else? How’s bout 4/14/82? Not sure if it’s any good, but I almost went to it and have always wondered?

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Absolutely, let's do it. Another Lost in space year for releases with a few past exceptions.

Hey Oroborous, at least you can remember parts of your time at these shows. Yes, the 4/3/89 show is a good one as well. Hope you found your wallet.

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I ment 4/14/82 Glens Falls. Yep, wanna try and hit some 82 this year.
Anyone have any good suggestions I’ll write em down and work one in now and again.
NOTE: already checked out the awesome Greeks!

No wallet, major stress/hassle…long story, I’m a idiot!
I thought I’d learned not to set things atop of the car when I was seventeen and drove off with my guitar on top!

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I love that show. Especially the recording with the 'Hey, don't F'in touch my levels' at the beginning.

Back to your regularly scheduled program, already in progress... :-)

4/14/82, preferred sources? I'll tune in...

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Okay, 4/14/82 works as well, Glenn Falls. I think 4/12 is worth a listen at some point as well.

That is a bummer about your wallet OB. Hope it wasn't stuffed with lots of cash.

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is decent, haven’t heard the 11th yet. We’ll have to tag those at some point.

WTJ: 7/28/82 Noted, on the list already, was hoping to check that whole Rocks run at some point.
Thanks for the suggestion!

Actually, $500: my weed and on call payoff money, fuuuuuuuuuddddddggggggggeeeee, only I didn’t say fudge!
Nobody had hit my CC over 24 hours later so perhaps some kind soul will return…but I ain’t holding my breath.
C’est la vie

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Fingers firmly crossed for you. Similar thing happened to me last year and an honest individual returned it to me. Left it on top of the car after paying park admission, forgot I did so and drove off. No, I wasn't at Bong. It was Rocky Arbor in the Dells. Positive vibes flowing your way.

P.S. -edit- And we should hasten to recall what happened to Jim, his brother and the 'lost in the snow' debacle. Thankfully, that ended well. Good luck, OB.

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“How many of you been late to a rock & roll concert before”

Decent show, went with the only SB, but think I might of liked an aud better as the occasional less than perfect moments are accentuated by the formatt. Or maybe just more aware of such after the 77 perfection lol.
Perhaps JGs vocals are a tad out front? Crazy how well you can hear Bobs guitar.

Moments felt somewhat like an 83, not full on rail riding, but a tad more manic than I’m used to from 82. But that’s why we need to go deeper in 82! Still relatively uncharted for this ole dog. Really dug the jammy/spacey PITB parts. Remember the one we saw on 4/8 was pretty sweet. And hey, no Cumberland but it does have a rare electric Deep Elem!

Not exactly sure why I didn’t go? Milton Wilkelberry Steamer the 3rd was going so I had a ride, and I probably could of scraped out the cash for a ticket, which back then in these types of places you could usually score fairly easy, hell, be surprised if it sold out? But we had been planning on the 8 and 9, and in those days I was still pretty young and not loose enough yet to just go for it. I’m guessing the main reason was work. I was a roadie and probably had a hard time getting the Friday for the Crotchfester on the 9th? Not sure, looking back now of course it’s easy to second guess. If I had the John Deere…

Thanks WTJ, I’ll take all the help I can get! Could use a dose of something positive from humanity these days.

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Hey, rockers!!!!

Pick of the day: Fillmore East 2/11/69

Masquerading as “the warm-up band”, the Dead played two short, sharp shots of psychedelia opening for Janis Joplin. Condensed big jams, greasy Pigpen, Mountains Of The Moon (love that song!), Caution. Need I say more? Oh yes, Hey Jude, does that call for an LOL???

However you slice it, a very interesting look at the band just prior to the classic Fillmore West Live/Dead shows of February/March 1969.

Hard to believe it’s been over 24 years since its official release in October 1997. Has it been sitting on your shelf all this time? Fellow rockers, dust it off, cue it up and enjoy!!!

Doc
I put my heart and my soul into my work, and have lost my mind in the process……

Easy to forget that one-but a joy nonetheless. Because they were the nominal support group on this date , they were playing with time constraints, which gives the sets a slightly different context. Whatever- both cds are superb.

Curious that some archival releases are now older than the shows were, when those shows were originally released on cd. It's not quite the case with this one - but One From The Vaults, from 1975, for example, was first released about 30 years ago - when the actual show was only about 18 years old. I guess as time passes people will become more nostalgic about the release of recordings than they do about the actual shows. A bit like how I feel about records that were released, and which I bought, in the 1970s. Eeee, I remember the time...

Another fine 82 show OB. Thanks for the pick.
Really good recording. Fun first set with good variety and a deep elem blues.
The China Rider to open the second set is outstanding! I won't rank it, but it moves me. Nice Playing and later we get a solid Black Peter. Give this one a whirl.

82 has a lot of offer.

Hope that wallet turns up OB.

Okay, on to 2/11/69 from the good doctor

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Made a copy of my friend’s CD’s in the late 90’s, then bought my own copy in the early 2000’s.
I’ll give it a play tonight.

Ordered a ‘new’ vinyl version a few years ago on Amazon. When it showed up it wasn’t factory sealed and had a bunch of scratches. I promptly returned it.

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....I. don't see that date. On relisten.

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You have to listen to it first before you can listen to it on relisten.

Yea, this show is not on the archive for some reason and since relisten leans on the archive.. it's not going to show up there. You can still buy the official release Live at the Fillmore East 2-11-69 at amazon or reach out to a friend.

Edit: They played a good bit of this on Today in GD History. I will be honest; this was always an odd ball release for me. I guess doc is right, they were the warmup band and didn't have complete freedom to set the adventure that awaits the sometimes tripping but always experienced audience. Just a couple sentences that clarifies my show funk on this, and now it makes perfect sense. All is good with the world. (well, almost.. )

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It has been awhile.
First show seemed more ragged than I remember, but the Hey Jude didn’t seem as bad as I remember?
Memory…lol
Always dig a Cryptical, and haven’t heard a Doin that Rag in fo ever.
Made me remember Phil shows and how he broke out so much of that awesome old school material many of us craved, yet never got to see the Dead do. Thanks Phil!
Second show seemed tighter to me, I guess they usually do.
Really dug the Duprees and Mountain’s. I wanna know how JG switches from acoustic to electric in under 60 seconds, those guys couldn’t do anything fast back then lol. But sweet transition anyway from Mnts, to DS!
And a 69 suite..nuff said!
Ok Caution, etc.
Era comparatively, I’d call these decent. Pretty crazy to compare to just a few weeks later, but like Doc said, perhaps the whole Bill G short/multiple show BS?

This got me so primaled up, I hit 2/14/68, a recent acquisition (FINALLY!) thanks to the Real Gone folks!
As great as this show is, it’s interesting to compare to the 69 stuff only a year later.
So the Spanish jam put me in mind of 6/22/83, a personal 83 fav! (the show that is) So hit the great second set. “Maybe ya want a radioactive volcano in yer back yard” into the version of Bucket that made us familiar with that one. We were calling it a Elegant Pride as we didn’t know better!
The 6/22 Spanish Jam version starts a little hazy but builds to some nice spacey/special parts, but the catalyst for my memory thereof is that it was the first one that made me “know” it. Meaning, I probably had heard on some old tapes, but didn’t know what it was until hearing it enough to go, hmmm, what is that, it sounds familiar. Yet another of the cool things that Dead music brings, enlightenment. How many paths to how many other things, people, places, music etc have you been turned on to via the Dead? Moma, moma, many worlds I’ve come…

Anyways, enjoyed the pick, and dipping into a different era. Still kinda burnt I guess, but can’t stick in one era too much currently. Doesn’t matter which era, just need to keep jumping around or else I end up not listening to dead? Weird?
Guess that’s the great part of having thirty years to choose from, there’s always something to dig, cause hey, sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes yer just nuts! ; )

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Okay, looking at 9/2/79 from Augusta for today. Let me know.

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Buckle in, that is a fun show with unique versions of many songs including a weir'd Minglewood. :-)

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Rollin!

DV, how’s the fam damily doin?

EDIT: Yassss, fun lil show. Cool first, dug the Samson, for whatever reason I prefer post early Samsons?
Cool second set Ramble On, only the sixth I believe since the hiatus. Funny they used to do it almost exclusively in the second set pre hiatus. Less, but unusual placement of LIG. not much of a drums/space, decent Stella, cept think Jer Bear mixed some lyrics up. Wouldn’t have noticed if I wasn’t paying attention lol.
Then not sure what happens in Trucking, after “up to Buffalo” it sounds like Brent says something about paying your tab? Sounds like some inside joke lol. Sucks my computer relisten version doesn’t do FF etc, only skip/replay, or I’d zero in more. Boy they come outta Truckin’ ripping, then the Nobody’s Jam huge tease!
Rockin A&A that literally got the old guy up dancing.
Another fun morning checking out off piste shows!
Anybody up for something completely different mañana? Perhaps some 92 as we’ve hit 70s, 69, 82 but no 90s for a bit?
Perhaps: 3/9/92, 5/25/92, 6/8/92, 6/25/92, something from 3/16-18/92, or if anyone knows of something killer, turn us on! Would love some good 92 suggestions that I can write down and sneak one in now and again, throughout the year?
Besides the obvious other stuff, I’d love to get a little into 82 and 92 a bit, that’s if anyone is interested?
ONWARD!

Think I’m going Dicks 4 for extra credit?

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Hey Oroborous,

We are all back in the saddle again! Back at school and work, but this thing is still ripping through work and school. Thanks for checking, appreciate it.

Loving another September 79 show. Fun first set, Stagger Lee is always welcome. Solid and different Minglewood and Jack a Roe, TMNS.
Just getting to LIG now, looking forward to the rest of the show.

Yes, I am up for some 92, just let me know. I don't hit this year up too much so it would be good to give it a go.

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I had a friend that attended this show and he was floored by set 1.

Enjoy your P.O.T. Day as always... :-)

P.S. Fire hydrants (1st time in a while I've been reCaptcha'd!) Nice.

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Well, that's great to hear. Yep.. sounds about what happened here, everybody had it and it's just starting to burn itself out.

Wow.. a fresh listen revealed many new high's in this show. I started 2/11 a few days ago but didn't finish it until last night. The Dark Star through Caution was fantastic, especially Dark Star and The Eleven. Disc 2 uninterrupted with headphones floating in the tub after a day of skiing. So much to unpack and digest but how about that recording? It says recorded by Bob Mathews, which is a little unusual, no mention of whether it was Multi-Track, but this was not a Dickus Pickus which at least hints at the possibility that this was not a standard two track recording.

Thanks for the great pick, Doc, sorry for my delayed praise. Gotta road trip for a bit so unless I have the picks on my portable device, I will going rogue..

As you were guys and (gals?).. keep on keeping on.

6/28/92 it is!
Just need to hit the treadmill and watch some cabin masters, then I’m on it!

DV & Jim, great news!

EDIT: Nice Show! Really enjoyed that.
Good set list, nicely played for the most part, decent sound, decent energy, definitely a nice surprise and another off piste find! Nice era change up too.
Thanks WTJ!

DBL EDIT: 6/29/92 extra credit

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Yes, thanks Jim. 6/28/92. Alright, will get it going soon. Thanks guys.

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I always like to check out new shows, so thanks for the pick. I haven't been able to connect with 92 yet. The tempo seems slowed down so much and lacks that fire in the belly you hear from other years, not all. Since I did not see any shows in 92, I certainly cannot comment on why that is.
Anyway, still found enjoyment with the opening Help Slip Franklins and Wang Dang Doodle. New Speedway Boogie!

Going to go back and check out the 4/12/82 show from Nassau OB mentioned last week.

Let me know what you all are thinking.

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I already hit that at some point, decent show, think you’ll like it.
I’m probably going to read today, but maybe I’ll hit the previous night 4/11/82?

EDIT: recaptcha tractors, think I saw Jim on the way back machine in one of the pictures?

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1. If you are underwhelmed with 6-28-92, you are going to be even more disappointed with the next nights show which I understand from show reviews and my own listening to be a bit of a letdown.

2. I had some filler from 5-19-92 (the opening few numbers CR+S, Rooster and Althea) on one of my tapes and my ears perked up. It was surprisingly hot 'for '92', as the saying generally goes.

Take 'er easy and enjoy your listening. Past couple days I've been able to enjoy Download Series 12-10-73, 1-22-78 (DaP 23), 8-25-72 (DaP 24), and I've been embarking a bit on DaP 25 (11-6-77) a show that gets better and better for me with repeated listens. Even the oddball Scar>Fire. :-)

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Those are all great shows WTJ and in the rotation quite often for me. Dave's #25 in particular is one of my favorites.

4/11/82 you say OB. I will for sure check it out.

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I didn’t go to Deer Creek, went to Soldier Field 6-25,26-92 and thought they were great (James Cotton on harmonica for a song or two, Steve Miller on stage for a few songs).

I had 6-28-92 on cassette in the 90’s and wasn’t that impressed, but may have been biased since I was at the previous shows. I’ll revisit it eventually but not tonight since 10-17-72 is playing (worked my way through the STL Box over the past 2 weeks or so and this is the last show).

I also had 5-31-92 on cassette and liked that show.
I was at 3-23,24-92 (Bruce’s last as a member) and those are pretty good too for the most part (few stinkers), but I especially liked Music Never Stopped (good light show to go along with it).

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Simply because there's not much going on until the next release. Why not?

Or are you already in Eastern Europe somewhere giving little gel capsules to unsuspecting tools? #DosePutin

Edit: Perhaps we need to pause the picks. That will get Bolo's attention. Or say his name three times, that usually works.

One Second Thought: Tomorrow's pic - 2/18/71? I think this might be a repeat too.. but rules are for the straight folks. Why 2/18/71? A question best left unanswered.

Bolo bolo..

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That Set I is a doozy!! Just stacked with goodies. Tom Thumbs! To Lay Me Down! New Speedway > Smokestack to end the set?? Heck ya, would never have believed that had happened. Thought Set II started out a little wobbly on my first run through, will need to revisit. Nowadays Way to Go may be the only song I routinely skip. I'm always a fan of D>S from the later years and the post-space sequence is nice. Was really surprised how laid back the Around and Around was - I liked the arrangement. Fun pick, and one way outside my usual listening zone. '92 was only year I didn't see a show from '87 to '95. Had tickets to the 20th Anniversary at Veneta.

With you Jim, definitely would like another shot at the gold ring. How about it, Bolo?

I had a big post all teed up last week and for some reason the ptb thought i was trying to include a linque or some such and no matter how i reconfigured and rewrote it I couldn't get it past the censors. anyhow. a couple thoughts about the first contest. in a way more straight forward than I expected but still some deeply obscure history as befits a Bolo contest. didn't come close to peeling the layers of the onion off on that one. one funny dead end for me was that the Woody Allen film "Bananas" was released on 4/28/71, the second to last night of the famous final Fillmore East run when Tom Constanten sat in. I'm like, how can that not be it, that show or that run? but I couldn't make anything else work and of course there was a reason because that wasn't the answer. also chased a wild goose with "46" - that's the approximate length of that epic Playing from Hec Edmumdson, and at the time I think 5/17/74 Vancouver was a POTD. Oh and my first guess was the Melkweg shows in Oct. '81. I thought my reasoning was pretty good for those. Good but wrong.

Speaking of Vancouver 5/17 I was spinning that in the car past 2 days. Stars were aligned on the way home yesterday with that Playing - Phil was simply crushing it. Felt real good. That PNW box is a gem.

The 6/28 New Speedway Boogie caught my attention in part because I had been listening to the 12/20 and 12/21/69 Fillmore shows that are a part of DaP6. Had totally forgotten that those shows were the breakout for New Speedway. Really had fun with that release and right after that the Strider Brown special DaP 30 Fillmore 1/2 and 1/3/70. And right there with you WTJ as 11/6/77 and 1/22/78 Eugene also were in the rotation last several weeks. And have really enjoyed DaP 41- right in the sweet spot that one.

DV - glad you and yours got past the plague. Big sigh of relief.

Almost to the weekend. Have fun everyone. Be well. Be safe. Onward!!

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Good to hear from you Bluecrow, thanks man. Crazy time,.......

Anybody up for 3/24/73 at the Spectrum, Dave's #32?

As good as November 73 is, I think the March shows through Boston Garden show might be as good. Can't imagine what it would have been like to see this tour.

There are definitely a few more shows from this Spring tour Dave could put out.

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Give me a day or two to come up with something particularly perplexing and nefarious, just the way y'all like it.

Yeah, BlueCrow's mind meanderings to come up with Melkweg were WAY out there. I'll have what he's having!

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Glad to join you later today DV with Dave's 32. I had that in the need-to-spin pile last month but never did it right.

For me there are great shows throughout '73 on all of the tours. Couldn't choose just one. In that first late winter tour what circulates from 2/19 International Amphitheatre, Chicago, has long been a favorite sequence. I'm assuming several reels are missing from the vault. This is sort of like the 2/2/70 Fox Theatre was for me before DaP6 was released. Back in the day no chance we would ever hear the whole show. Hoping the same sort of returned reel miracle happens with 2/19.

Bolo - thanks for giving us another puzzler. Perplexing and nefarious sounds just exactly perfect.

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By request, so don't blame me.

At the risk of becoming universally hated, here's the clue for Today:

Miami greyhound squid

PM your guess to me and show your reasoning. 3 guesses allowed per screen name, no new screen names.

Winner will receive some lovely GD schwag from my underwear drawer.

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came across this one today, enjoy

Hope you enjoyed it as much as I did Bluecrow. Some releases get better to me with each listen. This one definitely fits that bill. What a first set, the Race is on, Cumberland, Box of Rain. End the first set with HCS, Me and Bobby McGee, Loser-Playing? Wow. And then the second set, nice China Rider, Big River, Stella Blue. He's Gone, Truckin-nice Jam- Dark Star into Sing me back home and nice closers with Sugar Mag JBG. That is some fantastic stuff. I think I made this statement a couple years ago and I will say it again, #32, #33 and 34 might be the best three show stretch in the series to date. Just my opinion.

Okay, PT Barnum gives us a 71 recommendation. I will get that one going later. Thanks for the pick. Oh and a new Bolo contest.

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Hey rockers!!

Pick of the day: Dream Bowl February 21 1969

Everybody knows of the Dream Bowl show from the following evening, which was released as part of the 30 Trips box set. Thanks to TPTB for making that happen.

But who listens to the previous evening? Slightly shorter but still very fine, yes it’s “standard repertoire” for early 1969 but oh! what a standard. Greasy Pigpen, exploratory Star, The Eleven, and a Dew to cap it off. Does it get any better? Be careful how you answer that!!!

Charlie Miller has blessed us with so much ear candy over the years, let’s try not to take it for granted, listen and give thanks!!

Doc
Who looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakes……

Not to be confuzzed with T.D.I.H. :-)

Might as well give equal weight to 2-21-71, 2-21-73, 2-21-82 or 2-21-95 if we're gonna think that way.

Have fun all, whichever route you choose to travel... :-)

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Small World by Jonathan Evison. Ole Johnny is on fire in this book! One of the best I’ve read in a long time.
Also recently read/enjoyed John Babbs Prankster Memoirs, Ken Babbs Who Shot The Water Buffalo and Cronies.
So caught up on some well needed reading, now time to catch up on some Dead!

Concur, would hate to see this turn into This Day In GD History as there’s already a fine site for that elsewhere, BUT…in this case I’m down with 2/21/69 as it does fit well with our unofficial MO of checking out off piste shows rather than just rehashing the same big dogs we’ve all heard a million times. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, just feel our core group is a little more adventurous and tends to like to explore, at least as a group, club, whatever this has turned into lol.
Where the hell is GOGD he’d know! ; )

But 69 sounds fine, have recently hit both shows from 41 again, 2/26/73, some 92, and 5/21/74 from the Heck Edmundson Pavillon since the venue was part of Small World that I just read, so obviously a sign ; )

Bolo stumped me so hard I got a headache lol.