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    You can listen to Grateful Dead records over and over again and never understand the attraction they have for certain people until you attend one of their concerts. Sometime during the Dead's usual five-hour set, it will all click: Jerry Garcia's Indian bead string of notes on the guitar, the ozone ooze of the vocal harmonies, the shifting, shuffling rhythm of bassist Phil Lesh and drummer Bill Kreutzmann, and the distant echo of the oldest of American folk music. - Columbia Flier

    "Certain people" will know that we're coming in hot with one that's got all these things and more, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77. Yes, there's still plenty of spectacular May '77 to go around. Nearly chosen for Dave's Picks Vol. 1, 5/26/77 delivers three-fold. There's one count for the energy - all the precision of the Spring tour conjuring up the raw power of the Fall tour that was to come. There's another for the setlist which featured beloved songs from WORKINGMAN'S DEAD and soon-to-be favorites from the freshly recorded TERRAPIN STATION. And a third for its element of surprise (or shall we say surprises) from an astonishingly peak 15-minute "Sugaree" to new delights ("Sunrise," "Passenger," "Jack-A-Roe') to a rare first-set finale of "Bertha" to the second set's "Terrapin>Estimated>Eyes," traveling leaps and bounds towards the improvisational journey that is a nearly 17-minute "Not Fade Away." 

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77 was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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  • #1201
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    Well, MUATM worked

    Maybe these responses reflect that there's a limited market for DVDs, but I also think that if they released, say, the Euro '72 show that was shown at a MUATM, we'd all buy it.

    I too cannot sit for long and watch video, even of Jimi. But it makes me realize that what worked for MUATM was the modest crowd of Deadheads around me with great sound and the classic sound of beers being opened or the little lights indicating a vape pen in action. And people hooting as one of the boys pulled a move.

    As for Jimi, I have a small group of four who gather for a weekend lunch and an hour or so of viewing new video or listening to new audio as it surfaces. We've all been involved in a tight, worldwide network of traders from the '70s and '80s that really took off when digital came along, because suddenly you weren't fifth in line for a 5th gen tape. The collective aspect of viewing/listening seems to work best in this neck of the woods. Unfortunately, the next MUATM might be some time off.

    About the only time I can sit still for 2 hrs these days is for my delving into film noir and my beloved Three Stooges. They're the test of mental health. If I don't laugh out loud at each episode I know I'm in a deep funk.

    Kinda nice to know that a loud, ripping spring '77 show is on its way. Gotta hit Listen to the River again tonight. Got the friggin' boot off my foot today after 6 weeks isolated at home, yet still gotta do another two months of rehab to be ready for April in the high desert. Makin' progress. And I got nothin' to bitch about when the world's hurting.

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    Dave and The Vid

    Agree. Never been one to sit and watch live shows.

    Worst of all worlds sometimes, crummy sound unless you tv is sound ready. You watch for how someone plays a piece and just when they got to the jam, cut to bouncing babe in front row or on someone's shoulders! I always think show ALL the players in little boxes for the "hand" work,,, pull back shot of stage for lyric area.

    I take the vid when it comes with something, but I don't but per se.

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    re video

    CDs travel better than video

    I can't do a DVD while driving or sitting on the deck or whatever

    it's also difficult to have a DVD going unless I have the house to myself. which is rare.

    but I sho' ain't complaining about DVDs....

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    Video killed the radio star?

    I have mixed feelings about watching shows on video-dvd - blu ray, whatever these days. It's very different from just listening. I find myself watching the guitarists hands to see how they do certain things-which I don't often consider when I am just listening. Sometimes it works for me and sometimes it doesn't. I wonder if I would listen to 12/31/78 more often if I had a cd of it and not just a dvd. Although it is great to watch Jerry lean into that solo on "Johnny B. Goode." I get distracted by how the people look, too. As in.... cor - he looks a bit rough! And look at her dancing about. I don't tend to drift away as much watching a video.

    With that Veneta Oregon August 1972 show, I like watching it for half an hour or so - but "Dark Star" appeals to me more not watching them play it. I suppose I like what it does to my imagination - and watching it keeps me in mind of the physical reality of the show I am involved in. Unless of course I close my eyes, which rather defeats the object of the video.

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    A future great box set

    I think 10/18 & 19/80 from the Saenger Theatre in New Orleans would make a great box set. Two acoustic sets and 4 electric sets; the Dead played really good at those shows.

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    thank you for the Metallica tip, Vguy

    Justice now providing me with the auditory caffeine I need at the moment

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    Thanks Sixtus

    I did go over to the channel after feeling stupid for asking (why not answer my own question?). But I didn't immediately see any "vintage" shows. So I went back to work.

    I will dial back tonight for that Tivoli '72 show, trust me!

    Again, I wonder if, for TPTB, video of different sources and/or synching music, and/or the market for synched video is too weak to risk the time and money. A couple reels of tape maybe the much more certain bet.

    But watch them produce some of this stuff this year, if you like "variety." Maybe I'm wrong about '80s tapes coming our way and they've produced a box with video. We'll know this summer.

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    re: Do Tell

    Indeed, very recently Hazard put up an entire 1st set from Europe 72 - April 17, 1972, Tivoli to be exact- I was utterly SHOCKED at how good the video is - like, 4K quality, in color, totally pristine. This is obviously the "real" video and begs the question WHY stuff like this is just sitting on a shelf (officially). That one is definitely worth checking out; there are other clips from earlier eras, but that is the most complete that I have come across - so far - prior to 1974.
    He pushed out the 2 Warlocks/Hampton '89 shows last week also, and I am seeing several of the Spring '90 shows popping up this week so far.
    It's currently a flowing faucet for our enjoyment and discovery.

    Sixtus

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    Feb 17 1979, Keith and Donna's last show, has the best-performed first set of any Dead show I attended (and I've listened to it many times since, and of course countless other shows, and still feel that's so for any concert of theirs I know).

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    Last five!....

    Metallica - and Justice For All.
    Joan Jett and The Blackhearts - Bad Reputation.
    Tedeschi Trucks Band - anything they do.
    GOGD - Dave's 39 - Spectrum '83.
    Meat Loaf - Bat Out Of Hell.
    🤘✌
    No shipping notice here either adedhed68.
    I have enough music already, said no one.

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You can listen to Grateful Dead records over and over again and never understand the attraction they have for certain people until you attend one of their concerts. Sometime during the Dead's usual five-hour set, it will all click: Jerry Garcia's Indian bead string of notes on the guitar, the ozone ooze of the vocal harmonies, the shifting, shuffling rhythm of bassist Phil Lesh and drummer Bill Kreutzmann, and the distant echo of the oldest of American folk music. - Columbia Flier

"Certain people" will know that we're coming in hot with one that's got all these things and more, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77. Yes, there's still plenty of spectacular May '77 to go around. Nearly chosen for Dave's Picks Vol. 1, 5/26/77 delivers three-fold. There's one count for the energy - all the precision of the Spring tour conjuring up the raw power of the Fall tour that was to come. There's another for the setlist which featured beloved songs from WORKINGMAN'S DEAD and soon-to-be favorites from the freshly recorded TERRAPIN STATION. And a third for its element of surprise (or shall we say surprises) from an astonishingly peak 15-minute "Sugaree" to new delights ("Sunrise," "Passenger," "Jack-A-Roe') to a rare first-set finale of "Bertha" to the second set's "Terrapin>Estimated>Eyes," traveling leaps and bounds towards the improvisational journey that is a nearly 17-minute "Not Fade Away." 

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77 was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 02/13/2022 - 15:37

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....I'm going with some Doors to start. Box set that came out in 1997. LA Woman y'all.
Chris Collingsworth is annoying imo. I know who he's rooting for.

....I had 10.19.72 in my hand before dipping into Ray, Jim, John and Robby. Weird.
Second half music.
Edit. Nice catch by Chase. Dayum.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sun, 02/13/2022 - 16:16

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10-19-72 playing now, on Greatest Story
10-18-72 earlier today
10-30-73 last night

Love this Box.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 02/13/2022 - 16:51

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....first set starts out with a Promised Land, Tennessee Jed and a Jack Straw. Who would complain about that trifecta? Hint. No one.
Hitting play now.
Edit. At the 2 second mark of Jed, someone squealed. Hell yeah.

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Submitted by simonrob on Mon, 02/14/2022 - 02:50

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Lately I've been going back in time somewhat. Nothing wrong with that, of course.

Slumberin' on the Cumberland - John Hartford, Pat Burton & Benny Martin (1979)
When the clock strikes 12 - Slo Leak (1999)
Texas rock for country rollers - Sir Doug & the Texas Tornados (1976)
Casting pearls - Mill Valley Bunch (1972)
Live at Mexicali Blues Cafe, Teaneck, NJ April 7, 2007 - Avalon Allstars
(Ray White, Bobby Vega, Barry Sless, John Molo, Mookie Segal. Download from DigitalSoundboard.net)

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Submitted by billy the kiddd on Mon, 02/14/2022 - 06:32

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Wow, the Grateful Dead sure played some fantastic shows on Valentine's Day: 2/14/68 & 2/14/70 are as good as it gets. Happy Valentine's Day everyone.

I was curious to see which shows they played on Valentine's Day. Turns out they also played in 1969, 1986, and 1988 on the holiday. (Others? JGB, side bands?) Of course, most know about 1968 and 1970 where the shows have reached essentially mythic status but those other gigs were generally unbeknownst to me. Lovely day all :-)

-edit- I should say, besides '86. I knew about that one as I had a nice sounding tape once upon a time.

-edit 2- Enjoying DaP 21 (4-2-73) currently, which sort of has a Valentine's inspired cover art.

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Submitted by That Mike on Mon, 02/14/2022 - 10:15

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HendrixFreak mentioned the 2007 Avalon release of the Bear’s recording of the Flying Burritos - an absolute fantastic release, with pretty well impeccable sound. A great band well ahead of it’s time. I changed my avatar to show me skulking around Chris Hillman, after a club date in town with his musical partner Herb Pedersen (a criminally under-appreciated guitarist, who did duty from the Dillards to Old And In The Gray). Nice guys, both, and great musicians, and this is a collection worthy of finding on CD. Ahead of their time, indeed.

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Mon, 02/14/2022 - 11:58

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TM, actually I was thinking after hearing the Burrito Bros dbl-disc that, while the sound is pretty darn good, it lacked a degree of clarity I typically associate with Owlsley's recordings. But everything is there -- bass, drums, guitars, pedal steel, vocals. It made me wonder whether the GD shows 4-6 April '69 are of similar quality, which certainly is good enough for me to plunk down money for them.

Hmm, guess I'll have to spin that Hot Burrito again.

HF - There is an interesting take on the April 4-6 shows by the Dead at the Avalon, on a blog called Lost Live Dead dot blogspot dot com
Not only were the Dead packing a powerful Pigpen showcase, some thought is given that Jerry heard Sneeky Pete doing his ‘thang on the pedal steel, and it reinvigorated his desire to master the instrument.
Regardless, I agree with you 100% that the three shows would make a nice neat little release!
Is there a Dr Lemieux in the house?

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Submitted by jp1119 on Mon, 02/14/2022 - 13:00

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I’m sure there’s a forum page that references these but I just listened to Jerry’s contributions to the Zabriskie Point Soundtrack. I can't believe I'd missed them before. (Jerry Garcia - Love Scene and 4 Outtake Improvisations)

Wow. Powerfully simple playing. Like he was sitting right next to you. As he put it after recording, “…just me and my electric guitar and a little amplifier.”

Stunningly simple improvisational songs, slow, steady, and melodic.

These tracks won’t knock you out of your chair but they will make you want to sit still and listen to them more than once.

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Submitted by adedhed68 on Mon, 02/14/2022 - 15:02

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The JGB played an epic show on 2/14/76, and there is a really nice soundboard that circulates.

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Mon, 02/14/2022 - 16:13

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TM, I actually wondered about that pedal steel (possible) connection.

Did you mention PIGPEN??? In fact, that is what I noted from the 4-6 April setlists: plenty of my favorite GREASE.

Also note that the Burrito Bros. played Hank Williams' "You Win Again" and I think maybe that's where Jer picked that song up... I think in the early days, Jer is said to have always gotten to the gigs early.

That Byrds >> Burritos sound may well have inspired the Jer transition to the WD-type country, in contrast to Bobby's cowboy songs, per se.

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Submitted by nappyrags on Mon, 02/14/2022 - 17:41

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PF's stage show by '94 was way way over choreographed...little room for improvisation...at a complete show dress rehearsal they did at an empty hangar at the closed Norton Air Force base in San Berdoo I found a sheet of paper on the ground that was a list of instructions to one of the spot light operators....it was completely written out...red beams at 5:43 of so and so song, green and blue at 7:31 etc...blew me away...I was working the weekend for a caterer I knew...the first night was a very VIP invited crowd....the second night, no crowd just us working folk and we were treated to a complete show as the night before...in addition to the stage sound system they had their remote stacks out on the tarmac in front of the hangar...mas cool

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Submitted by That Mike on Mon, 02/14/2022 - 17:53

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HF - The more I see those set lists for that 3 night stand at the Avalon, the more I would love to see it’s official release. A seldom-played song was Jerry drumming up the pathos with a world weary voice on (I Know) It’s A Sin. Just great stuff! What shows to see, too: prime Burritos as an appetizer, and really greasy Pigpen for the entree!
All for probably $5 at the door, which barely buys you a beer now!

Fun fact: Something in the musical air in April, 1969. Less than two weeks later, at Winterland, Bill Graham had the “coming out” party for The Band!

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Mon, 02/14/2022 - 20:36

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....I'm boring lol.
Hi Mike! 👋
Figured I'd jump on the showing my face trend. I've done it before, but not with my valentine. 💘 She keeps me on an even keel. Say hi to my dead.net friends Cheryl! 👋
She says Hello and loves you peeps too.
Could be worse influences she says. Ha.
Edit. Is there something in my teeth?
Nope. That was my phone screen. Disregard.
adedhed68 has a tabby cat. The best cats. Followed closely by black cats.
Second edit. Tons of bands announcing tours. Grate newz!!!

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Submitted by Dennis on Tue, 02/15/2022 - 06:24

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Once again this site has cost me money. All this talk about the Flying Burritos and the Stanley recording, made me check. And, no, I didn't have it.

Luckly, I found a copy on Discogs for 5 bucks,,,, what the hell!

U's guys and talk about shit I don't have....... keepin' up with the jones' is killing me, they ought to hang the man that said the best thing in life are for free!

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Submitted by Dennis on Tue, 02/15/2022 - 06:36

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Got my "shipped" notice about Joni Archive 2. It's mail innovations, should be here by Easter!

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Tue, 02/15/2022 - 08:34

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If you don’t have Bear’s Sonic Journals #1, Janis and Big Brother 6-23-68, I highly suggest it.
Bust out the wife’s credit card.

Weird that it isn’t listed on the OSF web page, and yet is the first release in the series.
There’s info about it on Wikipedia.

No sign here. UPS hasn’t updated since 7th Feb. USPS say they are aware of the alternative tracking number but don’t have it. This tracking number ends in FR so is presumably heading to France. Poste France doesn’t have tracking info and Royal Mail say that the number isn’t traceable. I’m still not worried. I’ll start panicking in a week or so.
Looking at Amazon UK I notice the Janis/Big Brother cd is on offer for c. £135 so I think I’ll give it a miss.

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Submitted by That Mike on Tue, 02/15/2022 - 10:17

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Dennis - Believe me, the best $5 you will ever spend. There is not enough Gram music out there, and it’s an Owsley! HendrixFreak & I are quietly proud right now…

VGuy72 - Great pic of you and the Mrs!

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Tue, 02/15/2022 - 10:30

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A little off subject and likely should be in the What's in Your Fridge thread:
Another Covid related crisis in Colorado. Ball can co. has shut out small brewers by raising their minimum order to a million cans per SKU (5 times higher) and not offering storage any more. One brewer said it would take his price from $10 per 6 pack to $13 as he had to buy cans from Nebraska and now pay to store the waiting cans. Ball blames metal prices and a shortage of warehouse space. What's next, sliced bread? Lord, give us this day our daily beer please.
Cheers, or maybe pound 'em if ya got 'em.

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Submitted by simonrob on Tue, 02/15/2022 - 10:47

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Here in the Netherlands I have not yet received my copy of Dave's 41 and I'm not expecting it any time soon.

It has been shipped with Mail Innovations.

Normally it is given to UPS who then pass it on to USPS who use the alternative tracking number, a US tracking number with the format XX123456789US. USPS then ship it to Europe where the national postal service take it and deliver it.

This time, for the first time, it is different. The alternative tracking number has the format XX123456789CH which is a tracking number for Swiss Post. USPS recognizes the tracking number but have said that the label has been created but the package is not yet in their system. According to UPS the package departed the international carrier facility on February 9. Swiss Post tracking shows that it left LAX on February 9. From this you can see why I'm not expecting it in the Netherlands any time soon.

I suspect that Colin Gould is experiencing a similar situation but his copy is going to the UK via France.

Whatever is going on, it seems that there is a problem getting European packages across the pond.

She could change her mind.

Just like I just did -- listened again to the live Flying Burrito Bros' Owsley tape last night and, indeed, That Mike is correct. It is a top- notch recording, especially for an early '69 field recording at the Avalon. Dennis you got a great deal for $5. I paid $20 with shipping and am very glad I did.

I can confirm that that '68 Janis tape by Owsley is phenomenal!

And yes, Dennis, it is very costly to read this forum. I don't need to keep up with anyone, but my musical curiosity knows few boundaries and thus my wallet is frequently getting plundered.

My DaP #40 came via Switzerland, but that was very fast. I’ve got the latest 5 releases from the Another Timbre label to play so that should keep me occupied.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Tue, 02/15/2022 - 16:28

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Available on CD at Amazon for not super outrageous, but still pretty high.
But it’s also available on their streaming.

Also saw GD 3-1-69 vinyl there for $75.22, which is only $0.22 more than I paid at a local brick and mortar on release day.

Happy Will I contacted USPS yesterday and they are unable to provide me with any information as they state that is a low cost postage option that has been used, they have no idea where any of the international orders are.
They did provide this UK telephone number to contact UPS on 44 207 9490190, I am not going to worry about it for at least another week, hopefully it will have left the USA by then at least.

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Submitted by frankparry on Wed, 02/16/2022 - 02:01

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I ordered 3 subscription copies - one for myself, one for a friend and one as a spare since 0ne of my DaP40s went missing and I didn’t want to miss out again. The two copies I ordered in one go came last week in a signed for package. The spare (which I intend to give away to a friend rather than sell on eBay) I ordered separately has not arrived.

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Submitted by Colin Gould on Wed, 02/16/2022 - 03:08

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DaP #41 has just dropped through my letterbox.
It’s done better than two items sent to my wife by a friend in Indiana. They were sent in early December and have never arrived.
Not as well as an item from Australia that arrived in 10 days and was traceable the whole way with a comparable postage charge.
Going out shortly but will give it a listen soon.

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Submitted by docmarty on Wed, 02/16/2022 - 06:54

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Mine came through letterbox in Southern UK today.
Came via France - no doubt slowed down by Brexit!!!

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Submitted by Happy Will on Wed, 02/16/2022 - 07:00

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Why, when I import my Dave's Picks into i-tunes or my HDD I can never get three "album" titles that are the same. Always need post import editing. Who is out there taking the p*** 😂😎

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Submitted by Happy Will on Wed, 02/16/2022 - 07:03

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Why did it t sell out so quickly? a scam? I was caught napping and am pissed at myself and at the scalpers on eBay.

Shame about missing out DaP 1 in vinyl. I knew they'd go fast since the cd version is up to like 600 bucks!!!!

I laugh when I see the vinyl on ebay claiming "in stock"!!! Not even out yet. Price is crazy.

But have you seen the prices on complete Dave's and Dick's picks? 4k!!

But I did get 2 copies of 3/1/69 vinyl,,,, screwed up in ordering, figure I sit on it for a while and see what happens.

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Submitted by That Mike on Wed, 02/16/2022 - 09:12

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RIP PJ, and thanks for your gentle good humour, and a nod to the old National Lampoon, for being an often laugh-out-loud read!

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Submitted by billy the kiddd on Wed, 02/16/2022 - 09:20

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40 years ago today , I was at the Warfield Theatre for another great night with the Good Ole Grateful Dead. The Dead played a great show, a great way to kick off 1982. It turned out to be a great year for Dead shows, with shows at the Greek, Frost,( 10/9 & 10/82 my favorite shows of the year), Ventura( always a blast), Veneta, Oregon, and a year end blow out at the Oakland Auditorium in December. Crazy fun times.

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Submitted by Colin Gould on Wed, 02/16/2022 - 10:22

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I see the RSD list is out. 5LP set of Wembley Empire Pool 4/8/72 by GD for those who are interested.

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Submitted by Cousins Of The… on Wed, 02/16/2022 - 14:27

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Not sure if it's been mentioned here, next RSD releases will include 4/8/1972(yes, Thee Grateful Dead...) on 5 LPs.
(never mind...just saw Colin's post...)

Last 5:

Ruby & the Romantics: Greatest Hits
Royalettes: Gonna Take a Miracle
Celtic Frost: Into the Pandemonium
Slayer: South of Heaven
Brenda Lee: By Request

Did you get charged the same fees as before, or did going through Switzerland and France first not result in fees?

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Submitted by docmarty on Thu, 02/17/2022 - 00:54

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No charge for Dave's 41
However still battling with UPS to get refund for St Louis box set.
Latest update - must wait 30 days after providing full bank details
To anyone else not had refund you have to keep hassling them
I'll let you know when i finally get money

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Submitted by Daysbetween on Thu, 02/17/2022 - 03:44

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5466 just arrived in Scotland. Came via France with no charges. Happy daze. Need to save my pennies now for the RSD Dead & Jerry vinyl releases.

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Submitted by JJ Fehmarn on Thu, 02/17/2022 - 04:50

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Received my copy on Tuesday, additional tax EUR 4,18 and handling fee EUR 6,00.

Last five:
Blues Project - Blues Project LP
Gov't Mule - Red Rocks 09/14/18 4-CD
Neil Young - Barn LP
Pearl Jam - New York 3/16/92 2-CD
Rolling Stones - Cuba 3/25/16 2-CD

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