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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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    Wanted to hear that third IIHTWTG so I went to the Bertrando/Sacks that starts at the post-Supplication Jam which without it's connection was fairly hard to guess but it sounds like Jerry was just noodling and trying to get to Playin' already. Then Drums into more pre-Playin' then shuffles right into a good Jack-a-roe. Playin' starts for real and abruptly shifts to a bouncy and funky Shakedown and has the crowd clapping along in time. Slow shift to the IIHTWTG with an almost silent (confused or maybe just respectful?) crowd. Fairly different from the debut which was as-written-clean (was this ever on a studio album?) including Bob adding some slide that turns into whale song (Jim, the gift that keeps on giving, lol) while Jerry fans the ending. Tough song to sing with lots of chord changes. Maybe that's why it was dropped? Then Playin' reprise with Bob trying to go elsewhere, but settles nicely before the slam into Around & A.
    Glad I got to hear this and thanks to Oro. Will try that 11-21-78 on your recommendation.
    Cheers
    Edit: Duh, of course! IIHTWTG was on the Shakedown album. There's a ut-oob of the Cleveland IIHTWTG with good sound but no video. Lots of interesting comments there. Lots of love for this song. One guy suggests this was a tough one to sing as it stretched Jerry's vocal range a bit. Same guy has a great detailed logical argument for why they dropped Cosmic Charlie, well reasoned. Another poster said this was their wedding song - cool! Another said it was a dedication from her hubby who has passed on. And a strange number of people said they liked/loved Bob's slide on this. No accounting for taste I guess. Oh and one said Bob had issues at start of second set which may explain some of that weirdness with the "Jams". (as Oro has already documented in his review a few posts back)
    Doc, you know what happens when the going gets weird. If not see Hunter Thompson.

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    Miller 95660, it’s an SB, but it has flaws and several patches. I didn’t mess with the others…
    11/21/78: went with Carpenter SB, recording overall better than 11/20, still has some patches.
    11/21 is a hot show! Only hiccup I recall is Black Pete…hell did they ever play bad in Ra cha cha?
    78 nuts will want to hear 11/21 and at least the Playin Sandwich from 11/20!

    December 73. What a month!
    Not sure about 1985 1st show. With no net, Deadbase etc, all we were focused on was trying to get to as many shows as practical, and hopefully later getting tapes of those shows. Never dreamed of the riches that have been mined since!
    Years later when I did start to consider these things, besides shows we were at it was all about those magic last ten shows of 73, featuring just the guys.

    3/24/71: I like 1971, but sorry, just did like 96% of 71 last year so not ready for rehash yet. I will say I really enjoyed this show though.
    That JBG off of Skullfuck was the lightning bolt that changed me from interested, to whoa, I have got to see these guys!
    It was April 78 and I was at my buddies. We listened to Skullfuck a lot sans not much else live Dead to listen to. Live Dead was still probably too weird for us to fully engage. Steal Your Money was cool, but it was all about S&R.
    Being a Hendrix freak in HS, I was really into JBG, and I’d heard this version many times, but for whatever reason something happened that day and JBG just blew me away. I made him replay it over and over and from then on the scaled tipped and I started becoming more into the Dead then the other stuff.
    The final straw was finally getting to see them in January. The rest as they say is history.

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    I wasn't able to find a good source for this show. What source did you listen to guys?

    December 73. Another fine month Jim.

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    Lagging behind

    3/18/71 is a good show - least the first cd moves nicely through it's changes, and the song list and jams to come look promising.

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    Proceed Plan Dakota…………………

    Hey hey hey rockers!!

    Pick Of The Day: Winterland March 24 1971 (Benefit for the Sufi Choir Of San Francisco)

    Code Seminole, check 3 check 3 check 1, Red Dog over……………

    The yang to the yin of March 3. The band may have started the month off low, but they ended high. Yes they may have forgotten an organ, but this fine and underrated show is much crunchier and more expansive than what came three weeks previously.

    The Skull Album Johnny B Goode, so early in the first set. Top notch grease, especially the crispy Hard To Handle. A big jam sequence in the first set highlighted by an excellent Other One. How and why did they end the set with such a hard rockin’ Beat It On Down The line? Solid NFA suite to close set two, followed by a nice Uncle John’s Band encore.

    I know not everybody digs 1971 shows, but this one is worth a listen, and would make a nice official release some day……..

    Is it weird in here, or is it just me?

    Rock on!

    Doc
    Where's your will to be weird?

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    Perhaps the hardest part was convincing Phil some of this stuff is too good to fret over sound imperfections.

    I have to imagine giving Latvala reign of the vault was akin to giving a kid the key to the candy store. We have Dick to thank for most of what's out there that was not officially released (more important 30 years ago than today), but sometimes I wonder what things would be like if he wasn't as generous a head as he was. We would be enslaved, waiting for the next release. ...but imagine the elation of the great surprises that await....

    Anyway.. super busy which puts me in lurking mode, I check in when I can. Sorry for that. My extra credit has been a bit of Dec 73. Such a long, long time to be gone and a short time to be there.

    Big rain event here now.. a hard rain's gonna fall.

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    To 1985 - Dick Latvala starts work as the GD archivist.
    It must have been an overwhelming task.
    The new music format called compact disc is here.
    He has his list started, likely from memory and his own tape collection.
    What would we tell him is THE most important, or best, way to start the releases?
    Assume it's all there in the vault and good enough to release, just to make it easier.
    I'm ready back then as my wife just bought us our first CD player. Quite expensive and so are the CDs. $17.99 for a single when LPs are still under $10.00. I'm still a GD novitiate and have no clue having only attended seven shows ('78-'80).
    Cheers
    Oh, and is there a list (Dave L.?) of Dick's potentials that have not been released? Or is that now part of the Dave's list that Oro cites from time to time?
    (Oro - I vote for the live GO since it's the one I know)

    Edit: Only three of those If I Had The World To Give. First is the Aug. 30-31,1978 that I keep asking for. I'll check that out Oro. Was the Standing On The Moon of it's era.

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    Sorry 1st show, forgot twice, ha! Thank you, Yes very nice DP 20 review and I concur: all is very good, but perhaps the first shows playing trumps the second shows sexy set list? And is that not one of the best (for last) Charlie’s?
    Great song, but being difficult sometimes it could be a bit Sloopy, but this one shines.
    So awesome we have all these gems to contemplate, hopefully, for years to come!
    Onward

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    Hey OB, I don't think we ever hit this one. I will check it out tomorrow. Thanks.

    Nice review on Dicks 20 Firstshow. I liked both shows quit a bit, but yes, that second set of Capital Centre is hot!

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    Not sure if we did this one, if so, I forgot to mark it down. (and please excuse).
    Perhaps I tried/started at work but wasn’t able?
    Anywho, looks interesting and I think I might have heard locals at the time who went speak highly off it?
    Unfortunately I was still too young, at least according to those who supplied food and shelter ahem—to be going “all the way” to Cleveland lol.

    EDIT: POTD MUST LISTEN!
    If nothing else, you MUST hear this IIHTWTG!
    Really, the whole second set as it’s very unusual, but the Playing sandwich is like a whole separate show, and the meat (Shakedown>World to Give) is simply delicious and should be enjoyed!
    World to Give, another of those weird awesome but much too brief Jer tunes, and this one is phuching awesome!

    Overall, the show is sorta all over the place. Especially the recording.
    1/2 Step>Franks opener is always nice, but this is average and suffers from weird technical anomalies. Next few perhaps underwhelming? It’s all good, just doesn’t seem to have the usual 78 spark. PEGGY O is always welcome but prefer Goldilocks version: not too slow, or not too fast. This one perhaps a tad too slow? Decent Lightning/Supplication to round out the first. NOTE: Bob is present throughout and seems fine thus far.
    Why dat? Weeeeeeeelllll, depending on who you ask this was either the worst show or one of the best lol.
    Also much todo about Bob being sick, with some accounts claiming: he missed the set opening jams (he did); to he missed jam, came out to begin playing and left again until end of show…
    Well, inspector Clue so says you can hear him throughout the whole show on tape, except the aforementioned Jam>Drums>Jam.
    The jam sounds more like waiting around then the spectacular inprov mind melt that some describe? Though I bet it was interesting there in real time. Bob is back for the era typical slow Jack a Roe, but then things seem to really step up.
    PITB seems more energetic and though not a pre hiatus beast, nice just the same, then…., then they slide into an awesome Shakedown to take it higher, but then! Jer bear breaks out the gold, it’s gold i tell ya! and JG wants to give it to you! The last of three World to Gives is just plain sweeeeetttt!
    By the time they segway back into the PITB reprise you can feel the relief? definitely positive vibes, like phew, we made it!
    The band, the crowd, even the sometimes inconsistent recording is on when it matters. Though the recording does slip into an extended section of aud, it almost helps this vibe! Plus, sometimes it’s nice to feel that in the midst happy communal energy often missing in boards. So big A&A to end it and the crowd loves it. No encore guessing due to time?
    So I wouldn’t call it top shelf, but cool, unique interesting show, which don’t know bout you, but that’s why I come here to explore. Definitely not the worst show, in fact, as often the case, the adversity helps step things up and makes the show. When the going gets weird…indeed.

    Ha, told myself only one show today but I’m already into the next night in good ole Crotchfester. 11/21/78
    Sounds like typical crazy Rochester scene, kinda like the Spectrum lol. But they sure sound more like usual fall 78 so far (Big River…) recording too, not a Beatty, but so far so good.
    If only I’d been just a wee bit older, this might of been my first?
    That’s ok, I’ll take the first I did get lol.

    Ok, onward, must be fired up after sleeping with the Elk! Literally, several slept within feet of us just outside our bedroom window last night! Cool sheet Mon!

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4/17/82 sounds like a great pick! I'm going to wait to get home and stream it on the Big Boy.

Also, @ IceCreamKid - 10/31/91 is an all-timer! That should definitely be a Dave's pick! I also really enjoy the whole Boston Garden 91 run - one of which (9/25/91) was Dick's Pick 17. I'd like to see some more of those as well! I particularly like the night before, with LTGTR opener, New Speedway 1st set closer, then the Ship of Fools>Dark Star in set 2. Some good shows that late summer/early fall (the MSG run has some gems too!)

Peace

Then I read the soundboard shaming comment from the archive that enthusiastically pointed towards the Glassberg audience. So I pulled that one down, digitized and dove in head first.

I decided I like the Miller soundboard the best, but he has a point, many of the boards from this era sound think and lacking in dynamics. ..but once you get dialed in you adjust. I liked the Miller, it's the one seeded in 2019. I find often is there is more than on Miller, the later date wins the prize.

A good show, great shakedown, very good sound for the era.. interesting.

Not sure why I posted this.. perhaps an audience aficionado will have a different perspective. The comments from LMA are below.
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Subject: it's still only a sbd
the glassberg AUD is again the best recording for this great 1982 show. the description says it's an upgrade to all other sources. it should have the disclaimer that it's a sbd upgrade to sbds. the aud is significantly better. there is simply no reverb, sustain or fullness in these recordings. listen to the slow intro to nfa and the few slams brent gives the organ. it sounds thin and there is NO impact. i don't understand why these sources are hyped. please do yourself a favor and listen to the barry glassberg aud if you want to hear what this show sounded like live.

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Another enjoyable 82 show. Thanks for the nudge OB. I will have to go back and check out that Aud at some point Jim.
Good first set, nice It's all over now, Birdsong, Man Smart, Women Smarter. Second set bonanza with Shakedown Street, Lost Sailor, SOC into a really good Jam. Was that a duck in UJB? Love those IAONBB encores. Really good show.

Happy 82 Birthday Phil Lesh!
What a run.
Should we hit his 50th Birthday show today, 3/15/1990?

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Looks like our buddy Dennis was at this one? D, if your out there, any comments?
I was at first going to try the BG aud, but went with the Miller SB, which was decent.
Show was ok, started out with some ok energy, nice Sugaree, then cool they rolled right into El Paso, but you could tell it was a tad allegro. Good of Bobby to just go with it instead of some awkward drastic change up. From there it’s a average outing until an ok, but nothing special Bird Song, and what at the time was probably a cool set ending Women Are.
Now the Shakedown on the other hand was amazing. At first I was non plussed, but by the end, phew, beauty eh!
That Shakedown alone was worth the price of admission. Sailor Saint was ok, followed by a sweet jam sans Fatty with Bob and Brent laying down some cool leads in Spanish jam etc. Nice UJB followed by a sorta status quo ending capped off by an always welcome Baby Blue.
Certainly understandable how this gets overlooked by it’s more well know rowdy neighbors, and not perhaps dosent hang with the best of 82, but another off piste enjoyable show, and another notch on the proverbial “dead post”.

Ok, DV with the Philski biffday tribute!
3/15/90, Rollin!

EDIT: almost forgot! Hiya Otis, nice to see ya!
Yaassss that whole fall 91 run has been a real eye opener. I agree love 9/25, 10/31 is a top shelf show worthy of pickery, and 9/22 is another worthy candidate, but so far 9/26 is my fav, though I still need to hit the MSG run. Think I’ve only heard one of those so far but loved it.
Perhaps we need to hit 2/19/91 someday since Bolo brought it up?

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I like the Jack-A-Roe too.. always a treat, and It's All Over Now Baby Blue shined during these years. I never tired of Baby Blue and Brokendown encores. Oh, and that Shakedown was a keeper. Did someone mention 10/31/91? I'm gonna hit that over the next few days if time allows.

How are all you doing out there? Hoping for an end to the stupid war and a decent 2022. Where does the time go?

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Phil Lesh, what a stalwart. I have always thought Phil kind of flew under the radar at least publicly. What a bass player, can't think of too many in his league.
Man, I wish they had incorporated Unbroken Chain into the lineup before 1994.
And he was very instrumental in getting Dick's Picks underway and other releases like 3/15/90 and the Downhill from Here DVD, both in 1997. Look how far we have come since then. Here is to you Phil. Don't know where we would all be without you.

I am sure you have all listened to the 3/15/90 show many times, as I have. Still enjoy it every time. Love that China Rider and Terrapin with the Moc Turtle Jam. It is the jam out of Terrapin that always brings me back and of course Phil gives us a Tom Thumb Blues in the first set.

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I'm a King bee, baby......buzzin' round your hive.
I was thinking about a small talk , and hear some legendary acid test shit. It is close to 56 years ago. I might not have enough clout, but I was born 2 years later. Ha.

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So, I've abandoned my attempt to come up with a sampling of Dead tunes for newbies. Just too hard to accomplish without leaving gems on the cutting room floor - this after surpassing the 6 hour mark.

Going back to a modified 3 disc approach:

Disc 3 of DaP26 (11/17/71)
Disc 1 of One From The Vault (8/13/75)
Disc 3 of DiP18 (2/5/78)

If they don't "get" the Dead after listening to those, there's no hope for 'em.

If they matriculate to graduate-level Dead, I'll throw some 1968-70 their way and watch their heads explode. Probably should include "Steppin' Out" and "Ladies and Gentlemen" after that. And, there I go down the wormhole again...

Anyway, my small contribution to humanity.

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I am working on my 83 year old mom.

It's gonna include either the studio or Reckoning verion of Ripple for sure. Ideas welcomed.

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Hey Bolo24!!!

Your inclusion of 11/17/71 proves that you do indeed have impeccable taste in Grateful Dead...............

Rock on rockers!!!

Doc
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The only time my mother ever commented favourably on the Dead I was listening to was when a 1972 show was spinning. "I like that piano playing!" she would say-every time.

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All good choices there Bolo, can't go wrong.

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Speaking of 11/17/71, what was in the water/kool-aid on November 17 every year?

11/17/71 - DaP26
11/17/72 - DaP11
11/17/73 - DaP5

Pretty stellar threesome. Also played in '68 (Seattle - no tape?), '78 in Chicago (incomplete tape), and Long Beach in '85.

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Not to mention the one-off acoustic set by "Bob Weir and Friends" at the Rambler Room in the afternoon before the Uptown show. I can't even . . . . Just an El ride away from the old homestead(s).

"I'm new here."

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Anybody have a pick out there?

I will offer up 11/5/79. A real gem, released as a digital download with RT1. 1.

So much good music to explore from 1979-1982. Would love to see them start digging in a little harder.

Here is an idea for Rhino and Grateful Dead Productions, start releasing some more music. You could start with 11/5/79, which has already been mastered. Nothing fancy required. Through it on the site for $25. I would buy it. Continue on with 11/6/79..

Enjoy the day all.

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Sure thing DV. Haven’t hit that one in fo ev a due to how much I like the next night!!! Lol.
11/6/79 is a top pick of the year for moi. Has been since I got a killer Reel to Reel sourced tape probably in 80 or 81?
Used to like to practice playing bass to it too.

I’ve been hitting free range shows at work, though I can’t call them full listens because of never ending BS at work these days. Like if I’m just doing actual work, in the zone, then the dead is awesome, but as soon as the noise of never ending BS that nowadays seems like status quo to get anything accomplished hits, the tunes become background noise, sigh…
But, I can still usually get a good feel by what catches my attention through the din, either noticeably good or bad, even through the noise. So Id recommend 2/19/91, but not as much as 9/8/91 and 9/9/91. But figured I had to hit it since Bolo brought it up. Bolo, Bolo, Bolo, lol, kinda like Jan Brady ; )
Man that fall 91 tour is overall pretty strong, but alas, it’s not 197? whatever, so I’ll probably be dead before we ever see a box of that. Bet that’d sell out fast!
Ok 11/5/79 rolling!
Califoooorrrrnnia! Knock knocking on the golden door!

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Just saw the video of Keith singing the back up on Midnight Moonlight and Knocking on Heavens Door... Fans of Keith will enjoy the Moog on these 2 also.... Only 4 musicians, Jerry, Ron, Keith and John.... They look like they are having a blast.. bob t

Just finished the encore of NFA... such a different feel...

Missed 3-15-90 for Phil’s bday due to watching hockey.

But, listened to 3-16 on the 16th, and have kept up on the anniversaries since. Played 3-15 on the 17th, and am finishing 3-14 now.

Due to time constraints on weeknights I usually do a few first set songs and then set 2. Have listened to every Drums/Space. Good stuff in those 2 Boxes/Terrapin Limited/Dozin’. May keep the trend going.

Yes, I’m also a fan of 79, 82, etc, but haven’t been keeping up with all of you on the POTD. But I do read the posts.

Going to process some torrent files tonight, think I’ll do some early Brent years.

To Rock my soul.

Was a way from PCs and Phones all day yesterday, pulled off a DHB Hat Trick.

5/4/74
5/2/70
11/30/80

With a partial from 3/19/90

A glorious day, man.. I am a bit out of shape. No rest for the weary.... What's on tap today? I've got a road trip, so almost six hours in the car. If it's in one of my devices it makes it easier. How about something from June 76? By the way.. It had been too long since I heard 11/30/80 the Fox Theatre. Holy smokes that sounded good and hit the spot. What a great release and something that shines from 1980. Dare I say I like it much better than the stuff they put on Deadset.

Hope all you peeps are having as good a weekend as possible and doing your best to avoid life's potholes and quagmires. Keep the peace.

This show for me, is a top tier show and release. Sound quality is A+. Both sets are jam packed with great music.
The Eyes Estimated Franklin's in the second set is outstanding. Lost Sailor SOC, good Sugar Mag and close it out with a rocking Casey Jones.
Really worth checking out. Nudge nudge Jim.
Interested in your thoughts OB.
What are you thinking next?? 11/6/79?
I am open.
Yes, 11/30/80, is a great show I have that in the normal rotation. Time for more.

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Day got away from me.

I’ve always dug both these 79 Spectrum shows since as I say I got those killer tapes BITD.
But the 6th has become sorta propped up to we’re I’ve neglected poor 11/5.
So it was really enjoyable to fire that one up yesterday!

Been jazzing out with Bill Evans and now Charles Mingus, but hope to sneak in 11/6 just cause, even though we’ve covered it etc. Have second set from 11/9 cued up after, but might have to wait on that as the other half is working and doesn’t usually dig walking into “that Bob Weird shit”, that’s “too loud” right after work lol.
Might try that 11/30/80, mañana?

Jim, happy motoring! Sounds like you had a perfect day yesterday: DHB, AND no cells or computers!

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Smokin’ China Cat>IKYR to open!
Phil Bombs here and there.

I’ve heard this many times but it’s not burned into my synapses because I never had it on cassette. So I’m getting a somewhat fresh listen.

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Hey, rockers!!!

Pick of the day: Academy of Music, March 22, 1972

Fond, fading memories of the hey day of my taping craziness in the early 1980s. Where were the boards of the March 1972 AOM run? We had the audience recordings, ranging from serviceable to cringe worthy. We had heard rumors that the shows weren’t recorded, or had perhaps been destroyed in a flood within the vault. In such circumstances, hard to separate fact from fantasy, questions left unanswered….

Lacking insight, we wondered, what were the 72 AOM shows? Open rehearsals for Europe 72? Revenue raisers for a rolling transcontinental European party? As it turns out, a wonderful run of shows serendipitously placed between the creamy smoothness of Fall 1971 and the seemingly laid back yet wonderfully intense Europe 72 tour.

Our questions were finally answered in October 2003, with the release of Dick’s Picks 30. More came with Rockin’ the Rhein in 2004 and Dave’s Picks 14 in 2015. They had been there the whole time, in all their musical gloriosity!!!

The whole run is great, but I especially like the second set of the 22nd because I’m a greasy Caution kinda guy. For many, this fell through the cracks, as they snuck it out as the bonus disc on Rockin’ The Rhein.

Rockers, dust it off and rejoice!!!!

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Never heard it, so I’ll check it out!

DV: I hit 9/12/91 yesterday.
Great energy, but perhaps a little ruff occasionally for release?
Definitely think fall 91 would make a good box: first of Richfield, say 3 or 4 MSG, 9/22, 24, and mos def 9/26/91 from bean town, with say 2 or 3 from Oakland, definitely 10/31/91!
A lot of good shows lurkin about that tour.

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Interesting show.. I rebuilt it using a combination of the Charlie Miller and the Rockin' the Rhein bonus disc.

That jam out of Caution is remarkable.

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Okay, OB 9/12/91, I will have to check it out. That MSG run is outstanding.

Interesting to me I have never really connected with the AOM shows, don't know why, but will give it another go.

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The Dead at Shoreline Amphitheater 9/19/2003. Perhaps the most memorable post-Grateful Dead show I've attended.

The archive has a good audience tape (only choice available). I can send the soundboard to those interested if someone tells me how to do it via email (or something easy).

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Hey Bolo, Thanks again for hooking me up a few years ago – that is indeed mighty fine. I think you should be able to upload 9/19/03 to a transfer site like Dropbox or WeTransfer. If you don't already have an account with one, let me know. I'll see if I have enough room left on my free Dropbox account to upload the show, altho all I can find at the moment is an AAC/Mp3 version.

3/22 was ok, by 72 standards.
Yes that unique jam outta Caution was sweet!
Shoot, forgot to check: does Pig usually play harp on Big RR?
And was JG playing pedal steel on LL Rain?
Good grease too.

Hit 3/23 for extra credit.
Liked this one better, and not JUST because of the Dark Star.
Seemed like they had more energy?

Not mind blowing but I’m glad I finally heard em.

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I have those CDs somewhere.. I need to dig them out. Being the completist, I purchased the 2003 tour by either my interest waned or I didn't make room in my budget for each and every 2004 show. I think I purchased some but not all.

Looking for this in a bit..

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I only have the Red Rocks shows since I went.

That’s a pretty big statement Bolo!
Guess we’ll have to check it out?

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Apparently Oro and I shared a show. It was so cool to be there 25 years after my first show. Phil called it out asking who was there 25 years earlier; big cheers. Also cool, and the first time I had seen it, was being able to order a CD of the show right there and then from a table set up by the entrance. A commonplace thing now I would guess. Great set list including a Mason's Children, a Dylan (Baby Blue), and a Beatles (She Said). Joan Osborne killed it as did Jimmy Herring.
Cheers

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I am giving up finding these CDs for now. I found the Gorge, Noblesville, Jones Beach and a few others.. so it must be somewhere. I checked out a few songs from the audience on the archive. Perhaps I will look a little harder later but I need to drop this for now, I have a few mega yachts in Italy and Greece that I need to move before they get towed.

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Yep, those were good shows.
Don’t remember too many specifics, just a visual of it being really nice out, and how nice it was to be with all the freaks again! Joan was cool too.
We were in VIP through my cousins business connections so hanging by the SB.
Think Bill Walton was there right in front of the SB towering over everyone, leaning way over the flimsy rope that separates VIP section, thought he was gonna fall over a few times lol.
Of course I might be mixing up my shows/years as I seem to recall he was always there!

Remember even less of 04? Maybe that was the year it got really cold and misty one night and the whole place was literally in a low cloud. Very ephemeral and psychedelic. The lights on and through the mist was awesome, would of been cool tripping.
Think they played Milestones and maybe Lucy in the Sky or some groovy Beatles? Hell it’s all a blur, but was very enjoyable! The shitty weather made the show as the band got inspired.
Can’t believe I didn’t ever see the GD there, sigh…

Only 09 show I went to was at the Can in D town. Don’t recall digging that one so much, but my show circumstances certainly affected my perception. You could almost feel that they weren’t getting along?

Hell, was fortunate to see dozens of Phil shows at the Philmore, the Rocks, Vail, The Dead at the Rocks in 03 and 04, The Other ones at Fiddlers a couple times, Futhur fest 06 and 08, D&C at Folsom several years, and perhaps my favorite, Furthur at several places including that cool little arena in Broomfield that reminded me of a clean, new, up to date Chrotchfester memorial. It really is a great place o be a head, just wish it didn’t take me so long to get here!
Saw most up until D&C for free!

You guys all coming for the first time this summer are in for a treat. HF may be crazy but he’s not wrong ; )
I’m just not sure if my schedule will allow or if I’m up for crowds yet because of underlining heath concerns, but who knows? It’s on my radar…
If the force wills it, I’ll catch up with all y’all somehow?

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Maybe spoke too soon about the MOST memorable post-GD show I attended. I'd also have to throw in The Dead in 2009 at the Forum in LA (5/9) and Shoreline (5/10 + 14).

First set at Forum: Viola Lee Blues > Bertha > Viola Lee Blues > Caution > Viola Lee Blues > Black Peter, Cosmic Charlie. Warren absolutely wrecked the place!

Shoreline shows were long and had a great vibe, including half-hour+ encores: St. Stephen > The Eleven, Touch of Grey on 5/9 and Scarlet/Fire, Deal on the 14th.

Also Furthur at the Sweetwater for 4 consecutive nights in 2013 with only 300 of my deadhead brothers and sisters. Big fun! Except for the guy behind me one night that talked incessantly about real estate. We had words.

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Ha, just teasing ya, hell Dave’s not the only one who likes to riff with the hyperbole. ; )
Hell this place is rife with it, for good or for ill, lol.
BUT, for you to put the ole English on the ball to me intimates that your memories are such to warrant recognition/mention. Or, the point was taken, er, now if I could only grow some more hair and cover that point up, uugghh.
Scarlet currently. Second set definitely starting to gel and take shape. Good pallet cleanse too!
And another, off piste, interesting pick many of us might never had met if not for our cool little freak oasis here at potdwd!
ONWARD!

Oh, Furthur at the Sweeteater…fo git a bot it!, sweet in deed, I woulda broke his knee caps (not really) poor bastid didn’t know who he was dealing with. I hear those NoCal Sharks can get pretty hungry!

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I managed to squeeze the show onto Dropbox. I gave up on tracking down the FLAC that Bolo sent a few years ago, so the files are AAC. Still, even those of you with youthful ears and kick-ass sound systems may want to check this out.

In 2003 The Dead were: Bob Weir, Phil Lesh, Mickey Hart, Bill Kreutzmann, Jimmy Herring – guitar, Jeff Chimenti – keyboards, vocals, Rob Barraco – keyboards, vocals, Joan Osborne – vocals

I hope this linque gets thru. If you have trouble, PM me with your email address and I'll email the linque back.

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Joan Osborne was great.
Saw the ATL show and Sammy Hagar sang with Joan on Loose Lucy.

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As Bolo mentioned below, this was the best show of the tour IMHO, and I felt lucky to have been there. What a first set, and the second set was no slouch either.

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Jimmy Herring + Joan Osborne + Days Between =

Let the words be yours, I'm done with mine

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Is it the pick of the day or another clue? I'm going with just the music, but.....

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Hey rockers!!

Pick of the day: Dania March 24 1970

Pirate’s World?? Arrrrr!!!!!!!!! Shiver me timbers matie, it’s the Grateful Dead!!!

I came across this while reviewing the February/March 1970 recordings. It’s just what I like with the Dead----raw, rowdy, and raucous!!

Dew to open----I like that position a lot. Short sharp sweet Mama Tried. Very jammy Good Lovin’. The Dead channel their inner garage band and turn Don’t Ease Me In into a crunchy rave up. Unlike Star Theater, this one does have a big jam sequence, although it sounds a bit condensed, as if the band was under time constraints, but it works well. And I must admit, my inner cowboy does enjoy the show-closer Me & My Uncle coming from nowhere out of the Lovelight……..

As with Star Theater, a very decent and listenable recording, but with “issues”. Probably will never be an official release because a big chunk of the Dew is missing, and there’s an edit in the Star. The powers that be seem to shy away from such things. Still worth a listen…………..

X (factor) marks the spot, buried treasure for sure……………..

Doc
There is nothing so desperately monotonous as the sea, and I no longer wonder at the cruelty of pirates…….

One of the more interesting finds on the Archive.

I stumbled on this show years ago, it's an odd little find. It was one of initial thoughts as an answer to Bolo's last riddle, squid.. but I went with a companion show instead, which also turned out to be wrong.

Still an interesting little show if you have never heard it. I think I might do it again..

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and see what tomorrow brings…
Maybe mañana, no tunes today : (

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Hey OB, looking at 9/11/82, West Palm Beach FL, for tomorrow. I think Bolo would be up for this show.
Fresh Miller transfer from February 2022. If Dave won't give us any 82, at least Charlie will.
My god, we need some release news on this site. I think the last announcement was in December for Dave's 42, which should be hitting mailboxes in about a month.
It is almost Oberon season!

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only time Scarlet Begonias>Fire on the Mountain>Lost Sailor>Saint of Circumstance>Terrapin Station played. Great Scarlet >Fire, highly recommended.
Went to the next nite in Lakeland, 9-12-82, check out the post drums on that one, Wheel>NFA>Morning Dew with Jerry belting it out in his sad voice. Another great Florida run. Don't know why, but in the 80's, Florida seemed to bring out the best in the band.

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Looks like I missed an 82. I will get to this tomorrow.

I did finally get and finish the Shoreline 03 Dead Pick. A really good show. The Peggy-O of all things gave me goosebumps this time. Lovely Joan.. what a great addition to GD music.

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Looking forward to that Shoreline 2003. From '98 to '03 I saw some great shows, all on the Front Range except for the '02 shows at Alpine that at the last second I had to fly back to cause that was the home turf. The Other Ones, Phil and Friends, The Dead, they were all excellent bands. One of my most beloved musical moments was Phil and Friends at Red Rocks 7/6/01 when they segued into Blues for Allah in the midst of Terrapin and I looked over at my friend in wide-eyed-huge-smile wonder - youhavegottobefuckinkiddingme : )))

I saw the first 4 of the 5 Dead shows in Red Rocks 2003 - I think they were the last "shows" I saw until Wrigley this past fall (crazy to me that 18 year gap, my goodness, WTF). First show, 7/6/03, was outrageously good. Joan killed it. Especially Days Between.

edit - totally forgot, the first "post Jerry" show I saw was Merl Saunders in Colorado Springs maybe winter '95, in some little bar, and that's when I heard my first Dark Star.