Grateful Dead

There was a stretch of highway northeast of Tucson named for years as Highway 666...about 18 years ago the State Legislature made a big deal about it (It's full of wackos) and changed the designation to 191 cuz god was mad about it...

"See, I turned out pretty much ok."

The cat seems to like you!

lol what a trip Daverock. Never heard of them, but was intrigued enough to check it out on youtube. Just going by the band name and album title I figured they were some sort of Black Sabbath knock-off band that never took off. But no....it's freakin' Vangelis in a rock band with some cool guitar work. I am pretty familiar with Vangelis from the 3 records he did with Jon Anderson.

So I took a little bit of a listen on youtube and looked up the album. The track list is bizarre. Double album with 24 songs, mostly in the 0 - 3 minute range. Beside those there are two 5 minute songs, and then they have this juggernaut that clocks in at 19 minutes and change. So I listened to the first half dozen songs. Four Horseman was pretty cool. Then I skipped to the big one. It was okay, but not great. I was hoping for something as good as the big one Vangelis did with Jon Anderson (Horizon). Anyway, interesting music if you're a Vangelis fan. Or if you dig Apocalypse songs.

Started out with some Port Chester 2/21. Since Covid started I don't drive much, and listen primarily on headphones. But this one I cranked up during a car ride this morning. Yeeeaaah. So lucky to have these multi-tracks and a guy like Jeffrey Norman to mix it. The sound is amazing. I really like this show. Ripple, Wharf Rat, and King Bee are all great. I prefer the reworked 1972 Bird Songs, but this show features my favorite '71 performance.

Listening to 11/7/71 now, Harding Theater. What's the deal with this show - not in the Vault? I'd really like the Full Norman on this one.

Once this is done I'm headed to the anniversary of the 3/23/75 Blues For Allah.

Not only was Vangelis Papathanassiou in Aphrodite's Child but also Demis Roussos was in the band. He subsequently became huge i.e. very famous and very fat. I cannot recommend his post-Aphrodite stuff.

...with 2/21/71. Love these shows.

I think it's time for the decade box set, one show from each year of of the 1970s. Now that they have 6/17/75 back in the vault, this box set could be a reality. I think it would be very popular, there are still great shows that can be used from each year. I hope the show that gets released from 1970, comes with an acoustic set, but Ill take whatever they they put out.

Nashville Pussy (a band)

you'll never be the same

11/24/78 Shakedown Street

wow dude, Tull in 69 very cool. Loved their early stuff. That appearance on the Rolling Stones Rock and Roll Circus video shows them back about that time. Loved their concept, grubby clothes and all sporting that Aqualung look. Anything Aqualung and before is worth checking out with Stand Up and Benefit being my favs.

Keithfan - it's decades since I've heard 666 - I feel like checking it out again myself now.
Two other bands you might be interested in checking out are The Graham Bond Organisation and Black Widow, who both made albums with occult themes in the late 60s early 70s. Black Widow even went so far as to perform Satanic rites, or their approximation of them, on stage. Not that I ever saw them - or actually heard them, come to that. Sounded like a night out, though!

No offense to Monsieur HF, but You’d think Dave would go with 9/15/73 or 9/17/73 as the Wake 50 bonus as they both are good shows and they played 6 songs off of Wake, the most ever. (Counting WRS as one song).
Even 9/11/73 would work, though it only has 4 of the new songs, but really needs to show up somewhere. It’s on Dave’s maybe “list” too.
I know many don’t dig the horn shows, but I think their cool, and hey, come on, it was a big thing in their ever evolving history and yet we have zero out yet? Think it would make a good 2 or 3 show mini box: 9/11 Dark Star!, one from the 15 or 17, and perhaps one from the 21, 24, or 26th to illustrate how things changed by the between the start and end of that very unique tour.
But this is Dave we’re talking about so who knows?
You would think the Glen shows have to turn up some were, but they only have 4 newbies and are they strong enough on there own? Always heard the show was decent (for then) but that the “sound check” was better?

Hell it’s all good though, come on Dave ; )

Jerry Garcia and Friends, I believe was the advertised headliner for the Bob Fried Benefit this day at Winterland. Hmmm, who might that be? I made it to this show, too, in 1975. I did pretty good, I only missed the record release party at the Great American Music Hall. That would have been awesome, such a small intimate venue. My friend Dan was there, I'm so envious.

To have been there would've been incredible...I listened to the live broadcast at home, recording it and then afterwards drove the LA freeways just blasting it on my system...I had a major party to go to but I was late and sitting there, I thought, nah, left and drove around re-listening to the recording...not too long after the boot "Make Believe Ballroom" came out which was another treasured keepsake....

Maybe in '23 they'll put out a box of RFK from June '73 and the Watkins soundcheck and show (toss in 7/31 and 8/1?) as was planned many years ago. If they have to cut a few songs from 6/9 and 7/28, no problem here. And then you can tack on a reeelly big sheeeew from elsewhere in '73.

In a word, I'm easy. But you probably already knew that. I totally reject the notion, expressed on another forum, that there's not much greatness left in the vault. And the recent OSF '68 find proves it.

Just let the good times roll!

The only way you would know that would be if you had heard everything. And even then it would be a subjective point of view, that could only be qualified by releasing...everything.

BS, that’s the stupidest thing I’ve heard in awhile, and in todays world that’s saying something, idiots!

1) 9/20/70. 2). 11/7/71 3) 8/24/72. 4). 5/26/73 5). 7/25/74 6). 6/17/75. 7). 7/13/76. 8). 3/19/77. 9). 11/24/78. 10) 2/17/79 or 4/22/79 One show for each year of the 1970s, I think it would be a very popular box set. I think these shows are all in the vault. If anybody has shows they think night be better picks, Id like to hear them, especially for 1971, 1974 & 1978, I'm pretty sure about the other picks.

....are better than a majority of everything else. Scrape away!!

Hey Nappy, man, been a long time since I thought about this, but drove AZ 666 in 1995 before the name change. That road is terrifying! For like 2 miles you cross into New Mex too. Did you get sucked into seeing "The Thing!"? We each threw down the 75 cents to see it, best decision of my life.....

if The Omen hadn't been made, no-one would care.

it's a quantity
a number

I worked at a retirement community with a religious affiliation back in the 90s

the last three digits of the main phone number were 666

someone expressed actual concern over that

now 3...that's a magic number

and 666 is divisible by 3

add 666 together and you get 18

18 in Hebrew number system is a name of G-d

so 666 is an element of G-d

NUMEROLOGY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

watch the movie Pi sometime

it'll blow your funky mind

So I’m driving with the wife and we go by a house that’s got one of these 100-foot-tall flagpoles with a gigantic American flag flapping in the breeze. And she goes, “I wish we could buy that house, and then put up a gigantic Steal Your Face flag. That would be so cool.” And I’m like, now THAT’s my girl!

Actually, we’re kind of “mixed couple.” Same race and religion, but she’s a first-set gal and I am second-set dude. She likes the shorter songs, especially the happier ones. I like the long jams, and I’m always up for Jerry tear jerker. Somehow, we make it work. I’ve got so much honey the bees envy me.

Last five to stay alive:
King Crimson: Red
GOGD: Road Trips Denver ’73
Kenny Garrett: Pursuance
Makaya McCraven: Deciphering the Message
Sonic Youth: Sister

I heard that rumor that there was a new Owsley show recorded in '68 recently unearthed.

Does anyone have more info about it?

666 came from a group of people who were trying to kill Julius Cesar, and that is the code name used for him. Now back to your regularly scheduled decade box set.

Charlie Musslewhite apparently played on the same bill as the Dead, doesn't get any better then that.

Check the OSF Facebook page for info on the 68 reels.

Edit:
Don’t know why OSF can’t post the info on their own website.
I don’t have a Facebook account and was initially able to read the OSF page, but then got blocked.
Laziness on OSF’s part I guess.
Maybe they’ve posted it since I last checked a few days ago.

Billy – Great Concept! One question: What's your pick for 1978? Can't find a show on "10/19/78".

Jeff, thanks for setting me straight, 10/20/78. I went the 20th & the 21st. The Black Peter on the 20th is as good as it gets.

....I assumed they were a death metal band.
This would be circa 1983.

I'd like to see Chicago 7/25/74. Great set list, last Dark Stark of '74 in the Vault, and it segues into an embryonic version of Slipknot!

I think I'd like 11/24/78. While I do have a great SBD version and video from a good friend, I would like a copy that sounds as good as the top-shelf Full Norman Betty Boards. Not enough officially released late '78 with material from Shakedown Street.

The first time I heard the words Grateful Dead uttered was in 1st grade art class. As I was drawing a KISS logo, my art teacher, who wore her hair back in bandanas every day (often tie-dyed) asked what it was. I explained it was a music group. She asked if I had heard of the Grateful Dead. Uhhhh.....no....are we still talking about music?

Kiethfan, thanks for the show suggestions for the box set. I'm. glad to hear from people who know way more than me , when it comes picking the the coolest Dead shows, I'll put those two shows you suggested in my lineup for the box set.

Caught Bob and the pack in Asheville last nite. Very mixed feelings on this one, but the second set with New Speedway>Eternity>TOO>Eternity>Chinacat>Rider>Morning Dew redeemed the band.
Bobby pleases the cowboys with the first set. There seemed to be a lot of cowboys there and a lot of people who did not come for the show, the amount of talking and off key singing was horrendous. The guy directly behind us could not carry a tune if his life depended on it, but he still tried in the top of his off key voice, very disturbing.
If Bobby is going to use a brass section, they should be on tempo and on key, there seemed to be someone off key in that section of the band, don't know if it was the trumpet or the trombone or the sax, but when they all played, a lot of sour notes to my ears.
The screaming of "Bobby" at the top of ones voice can't be heard by Bob. I can't hear and I was not a rock star who spent 30 years on stage with the Dead, so he can't hear your screaming, but the person in front of you gets it's full effect, which sucks.
Got to give Bob credit, he's 6 years older than me and he is still up there, doing his thing. I thought in my opinion that Ratdog was a much better band. In fact, we almost left after the first set., especially when it started with Me and Bobby Magee. Glad we didn't but you get my drift.

All things considered, and without wishing to be negative, it sounds.....friggin' awful !

Was at Winterland 10/18/74. And you all know when it emerged again over four years later.

Grateful Dead
Electric Theater
Chicago, IL
April 26, 1969

Dupree's Diamond Blues
Mountains Of The Moon ->
Dark Star Jam ->
China Cat Sunflower ->
Doin' That Rag
It Hurts Me Too ->
Hard To Handle
Cryptical Envelopment ->
Drums ->
The Other One ->
The Eleven ->
The Other One ->
It's A Sin
Morning Dew
Sittin On Top Of The World
New Minglewood Blues
Silver Threads & Golden Needles
It's All Over Now, Baby Blue
Saint Stephen ->
Turn On Your Lovelight
---Encore---
Viola Lee Blues ->
Caution Jam ->
Viola Lee Blues ->
Feedback ->
What's Become Of The Baby ->
Feedback ->
And We Bid You Good Night

I can feel your pain. I had no plans to attend any of the shows, but I watch an occasional video just to see what the band is up to. Every show I've viewed, and I mean EVERY show, the crowd is singing along to all the songs, so loud you could barely hear the instruments or the singing. That would not be fun. Glad to hear it better for you though.

Edit: The reasoning behind my "I had no plans to attend any of the shows" is that I consider anything post-08/09/1995 simply a Grateful Dead cover band. No disrespect to D & Co. or any of the other myriad off-shoots (I would love to see Phil & Friends though; they seem to have a much wider and diverse repertoire than D & Co), if you've seen the real thing, nothing else matters. I understand the want/need to keep the music going and make some spending money, but I prefer to remember those times when I was there. I guess we were just lucky to have been there.

This was released as Dick' Pick's 26, as a 2 CD set, albeit a very truncated version. The 2nd disc is from the next night at the Labor Temple in Minneapolis. A couple of songs from the Labor Temple show are at the end of Disc 1. This is my favorite DP release, although I don't have many. Supposedly, this is the only live performance of "What's Become of the Baby". I always wanted this complete show released.

And as someone reminded me earlier this year - the Viola Lee Blues from this show is on "Fallout From The Phil Zone."

....did you know that Keith Moon died in the same room that Mama Cass Elliot died in four years earlier? And they were both 32 years old?
I didn't. Now I do.

DV, I think KF means the last unreleased '74 Dark Star (jam - no DS verse) in the vault. And, as some here might dimly remember, cause I think its come up before, that show is sort a near and dear to my heart, not cause I was there (alas, no) but ca. 24 years ago, out here in the great Red Rock unknown, in my bottom feeder tape trading days, I stumbled into an audience recording of that show, based on my love for '74 and all things Chicago cause I grew up there, without realizing that neither the soundboard, or any audience recording, actually circulated at that time. Sort of a big splash in certain circles (I think Deadhead Compendium wanted a write up for 1st edition from a friend I dubbed a copy for, but compendium was already in galley proof so not possible) because it was the last uncirculated DS from that time, with a Slipknot reference to boot. I got it from the taper himself, whose name I don't recall, a friend of a friend, who also didn't realize that 7/25, the only show he ever taped, was not in circulation. And it was clear as he related his experience at the show, as he lent me the original cassette tapes, under the desert night sky in this dusty little town on his way up from or back to Flag, before or after running the Green or Cataract or some such desert river, that the show was a complete religious experience. So, yes, for years now, I've wanted Dave to release 7/25/74. (edit - to be clear, I want to see complete shows of all of '74 released.)

As for a '78 show for the 70s box - right now I'm thinking maybe 11/18/78 at the Uptown. Yep, Chicago. And who knows, maybe the first 2 shows from that run, which don't circulate as complete SBDS, might also be in the vault.

And the Electric Theatre (Chicago again) in April '69? Lets release everything we got from those shows too. If I remember correctly, it's a studio mix of What's Become of the Baby being played over the PA while the Dead play feedback to it. Sounds like some serious '69 craziness that night.

And, in another Christmas miracle, can we find and release the, up to now, missing reels from the International Amphitheatre 2/19/73?

Very cool story. You were famous.. till the soundboard presented itself in 2004. I don't think I'm famous for, well, anything, but I'm holding out hope.

Famous - ha, not at all. still remember listening to the whole freaking show on my very cheap headphones on my very cheap stereo, in the dark of the aging, leaky roof trailer i rented at that time. It was recorded from the balcony in the International Amphitheatre for goodness sakes, with a distant cavernous sound, but yeah I was "there"(!) I could hear it "all"(!) and it was pretty damn cool! And I dubbed an extra copy for a close music friend in Chicago ("Quinnah" at Dr. Wax) and a month later I got a letter from him where he blew me away with the fact that the show didn't circulate, and all that other stuff. To me its the improbable synchronicity of the whole thing that blows my mind. I still have a vision of that high desert night, out in front of the Kokopelli where our mutual friend worked, talking to the guy who taped it, and him describing how he got seriously dozed by someone with the band, how Phil was somewhat under the weather (not that you would know it by his playing) and sat on a stool for part of the second set, and how the Ship of Fools encore was a complete and total religious experience. And funny thing, it wasn't the first time for that with the Dead in that tiny little town.

...ah yes, Cataract Canyon...if memory serves there are rapids called "The Big Drops" with one in particular called "Oh S**t!!! there...it was a blast...The rapids at the end were kind of non-existent then because the water from Lake Powell was backed up deepening the river...not the case anymore...a few more years of this drought and Lake Powell will be a wading pool...

Nappy - i boated the San Juan 100+ times easy but never Cataract. Some day.

Whatever. I'm sitting here still grieving Mark Lanegan, strumming my Jake E. Lee Charvel strat when news of Taylor Hawkins death comes out. Goddamn! Too many of these guys are dying too young. The Foos were about to take the stage in Bogota and they found him in his room. Fentanyl? Shit. Bummed.

God bless everyone and don't take the chances you used to... the drugs are dirty these days.

\m/

Wow. I wonder where this great setlist show will turn up. Dave's pick in the future? Part of a primal box? Who knows. Let's hope it will be soon.

anna one anna two

Yeah, we also said the same thing, in fact, during the first set I leaned over to my wife and said "worst dead cover band ever". I also had some fun while they tried to play Casey Jones, we laughed and laughed, I said "if Bobby did a line of coke right now, it would probably kill him" and my wife replied that the train is going so slow that the notion that he's having is that it's nap time. Funny because in 2010 when Furthur was in town, they played Casey Jones and it was excellent, started slow tempo and just got faster and faster. Now, that train can't quite get out of the station. I also got to say this, what was that absolute crap that they were smokin' in that hall? Smelled like incense and gave me a horrible headache. I'll stick to my blueberry muffin. So good.
Last concert for me, it was a good run, but now it's over for us. 53 years of going to see rock bands, and we had a time.

Re: Taylor Hawkins-In one way, it’s hard to imagine someone not heeding the warnings of all the dead musicians that went before. However, as a recovering alcoholic who had 6 years sobriety, gave it away, drank for 8 more years(torture), and is so blessed to have 8 years sobriety, I DO understand. NO ONE is above the disease of addiction. And to endeavor to stay clean and sober is a difficult, yet rewarding, lifestyle. I pray for those going down this road right now.
On a positive note: I was lucky enough to get a clean, soundboard copy(CD) of the 4/26/69 show, and it is a thing of wonder. I’d be happy to send one person a cd copy, if they want to digitize it and share the file with whoever would like a copy. Until Dave(or someone) releases it, it is one prize of my collection.

Please remember, when we help someone else, we help ourselves.

Music is the Best!!

Not a foo fighters fan
But
My beloved got tix to see them in town in august
Now one of emz dead
Re-Placement?

Ive seen the needle and the damage done