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    You can listen to Grateful Dead records over and over again and never understand the attraction they have for certain people until you attend one of their concerts. Sometime during the Dead's usual five-hour set, it will all click: Jerry Garcia's Indian bead string of notes on the guitar, the ozone ooze of the vocal harmonies, the shifting, shuffling rhythm of bassist Phil Lesh and drummer Bill Kreutzmann, and the distant echo of the oldest of American folk music. - Columbia Flier

    "Certain people" will know that we're coming in hot with one that's got all these things and more, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77. Yes, there's still plenty of spectacular May '77 to go around. Nearly chosen for Dave's Picks Vol. 1, 5/26/77 delivers three-fold. There's one count for the energy - all the precision of the Spring tour conjuring up the raw power of the Fall tour that was to come. There's another for the setlist which featured beloved songs from WORKINGMAN'S DEAD and soon-to-be favorites from the freshly recorded TERRAPIN STATION. And a third for its element of surprise (or shall we say surprises) from an astonishingly peak 15-minute "Sugaree" to new delights ("Sunrise," "Passenger," "Jack-A-Roe') to a rare first-set finale of "Bertha" to the second set's "Terrapin>Estimated>Eyes," traveling leaps and bounds towards the improvisational journey that is a nearly 17-minute "Not Fade Away." 

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77 was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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    Just to clarify...

    Jim, you may not have heard the phrase "cosmic yawn" before because I made it up on the spot as I typed that comment. Good one, though, huh? Now that everyone is growing mushrooms in their closet, the supply is bounteous. Denver recently decriminalized them, a wholesome development. Though that won't help me in the rural counties, so I try to behave.....

    Daverock, a pronghorn is essentially an antelope, but not technically speaking, I believe. These freakin' things typically rove in bands on the Colorado Plateau and you have to watch out for them. They can run 60 miles per hour for fairly extended distances. In Wyoming, highway signs warn you -- a band could be streaking across the prairie and cross a paved highway at any angle at high speed.

    I once was returning from a sojourn and spotted a band off the road. I watched them for a half a minute, at 100 yards, wondering what they might look like close up. Oh boy. As I returned my gaze to the road ahead I saw to my momentary horror a pronghorn just clearing my bumper as it streaked right to left across the highway. I'm doing 75 probably. I probably missed it by two seconds. I got a real good, close-up look. And promised myself I'd never again take my eyes off the road for more than a milisecond.

    Yeah, sitting around, staring at a candle, listening to some self-appointed "guide" sounds like serious BS! I get the visceral attraction of tripping with the original Pranksters, but personally, I seek on my own.

    Now that #41 is tucked away on the '77 shelf, I've been looking at the shelf with the 1965-1975 shows and man oh man do I have some listening to do while it's still winter and I'm spending the evenings inside. If a big storm crops up, I'll microdose, take a long walk in the snow, come home, make a fire, and plug in a guitar. Last time I did that, I played for about five hours straight and my fingers hurt like hell. When that's over, I have a couple hundred GD shows and a stack of Miles and Coltrane for the stereo. Life can be good!

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    What a show, especially that 1st set! I wish the Dead would have played China Cat Sunflower at these shows .

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    I have been interested in the recent scientific and public interest in psychedelics, and the increasing evidence of their positive effects. It certainly seems true to my experiences with mushrooms. I would never have said that I was depressed prior to my experiences, but looking back, my life changed in all sorts of positive and unexpected ways during and after my time of taking them. It seems a bit contradictory, but they seemed to straighten me out. I also wonder now if L.S.D use in the 60's and 70's may actually have set psychedelic culture back decades.

    With acid ,I never knew how strong the stuff was before taking it. The differences between the strengths of the few trips I had on it were massive. Like with most drugs, the biggest danger in it, to me, lay and still lie, in it's illegality. As far as I could make out, no-one - certainly as far down the chain as me - had the faintest idea what they were taking. I can remember when I was on the social work course in 1991, the police gave us a list of all the drugs they had picked up one recent weekend that had been sold in clubs as "ecstasy". Everything from caffeine to STP. I remember one guy who told me he sold dogs worming tablets as ecstasy.

    At the end of the day, I feel it is important to take care of ourselves, and of other people, in the best way that we individually can. I wouldn't want to be a part of any group that disregards the welfare and happiness of it's most vulnerable members.
    And driving - I am sorry PT, you are a prince among men - but I have known several people-I am sure we all have - who have killed themselves or others in motor accidents. Horrendous experiences all round - for the victim, the family and friends left behind, and the perpetrator. Any activity that increases the possibility of creating such a tragedy should surely be ruled out.

    Incidentally, what the heck's a pronghorn ? I think if I had seen one of them in Oldham in the 70's I would have thought it was the devil.

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    I've never heard that term used before, but it happens to me every time.

    There was a period mid-career where I did not indulge, plus it seemed hard to get for a while. ..but I still seem to dip my big toe into the cosmos at least once a year.

    In terms of place and setting, early on I found myself either wanting to be in a small group and away from phones and random people or in such a large group as to be ambiguous. So it became nature, camping, backcountry or frankly dead shows. That seems to work.

    The last decade I find myself liking to be alone, mostly kayaking/hiking/biking where I won't run into some unexpected situation where somebody needs me. Concerts too when I don't have to drive or the show is long enough to fit it in. I want no responsibilities whatsoever. Oh, and headphones, music is good - almost a must. So I still explore when I can find the time and tranquility to pull it off. I can't speak for everyone, but I find it helpful for me. It gives me a chance to reformat my internal hard drive and reorganize thoughts, priorities and who I am.

    Those are my tricks.. but I have to admit the HF approach is quite appealing to me. If you notice some unexpected rando behind you on the trail, I'm the one with earphones and a tie dye (and the bad orange hair and pasty white complexion). :D

    Cosmic yawns.. so true. That cracks me up.

    There's a lot of great research on micro dosing that's come out lately. Encouraging to me.

    As to tripping with the pranksters or at an acid test, be it a good idea or not, I would do it in a heartbeat. But alas, I was born too late. That ship sailed while I was playing in the sand box out back. Babs.. I am here, once you come out of your heart injury, if you want to have one last foray into the unknown, give me a call. I'm all in.

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    driving under the influence can be fun, and frightening. I knew a guy who wanted to drive, he said he could see so well that anything that could have collided with the vehicle he could see long before it would happen. He was a great driver and drove us all to and back many a show. We in the back seat could only jiggle as he navigated the roadways so gracefully, with a huge grin on his face (aka Neil like). The road always seemed to get away from me whenever I tried, like a ribbon that would unravel. On deserted roads, it was fun, on the freeway, not so much.
    Back in the day when I first started (69) it was the thing to try and freak each other out, aka pranksters, with double talk and echo talk and endlessly trying to get each other to lose it laughing, especially in a crowd of er...non dosed. After hearing about Leary and his way of spiritualizing psychedelics it just wasn't as much fun sitting around trying to concentrate on any one thing for very long. Pranking and laughing was way more fun.
    Not being a musician, never really wanted to hang out with bands, but I always wanted what they were smoking, drinking or taking in any other form. Would have loved to hang with Kesey and Babbs, what a trip that would have been.

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    My own approach these days...

    may be (probably is) just one man's approach, possibly idiosyncratic. First off, know your materials well (potency) and decide if you want a micro-dose, a medium but significant journey or a little over the top approach. Because I'm in the backcountry alone, I need to be confident that I can get somewhere and back in a day, handle the terrain, maintain my orienteering skills, and calmly apply my behavioral knowledge if I run into a bear or cougar. (Don't surprise 'em, talk, wave arms, don't look 'em in the eye, give 'em room to avoid you, take the guard off the pepper spray, be sure you're upwind, etc.) I get moving early in the day and have an objective before dropping so as the agent (psilycibin for me) comes on, I'm in my element in terms of orienteering, body and mind synch and thus avoiding the initial, potentially debilitating awkwardness of the limbs and thoughts that comes with the cosmic yawns at "onset." And make sure I'm actively striding and finding my way as the peak comes and goes. I usually don't stop for any length of time. Occasionally I miscalculate the powder at the bottom of the bag and get a little walloped. But an 8-hour hike through spectacular terrain where I won't see humans -- this is trackless country, no trails -- typically does the trick. And there's nothing like a shot and a beer and a toke back at camp or, if camp is the truck, then a chair and guitar. Last fall I did just that across a wild plateau called East Cactus Flats, returning to my truck in a forsaken place called Disappointment Draw. I cracked a beer and started fingerpicking when I heard a strange noise. A good-sized pronghorn, traveling alone, approached to within maybe 50 feet and kept querying me -- no mistaking that querying sound. Essentially, who or what are you? What the hell is that sound you're making? And, have you seen my peeps? I've noticed that wild animals, as well as domesticated dogs, totally key in to a person who is psychedelic. The other major part of this approach is what I'd call "digestion." Take the time to fully absorb the lessons of the day and seek ways to incorporate those insights into your ordinary reality and dealings with others. Be patient and kind. (I do not always succeed; this is a work in progress after 50 years.) Too much repetition of the experience without "digestion" and, to me, it's just repeating the high without drawing the lessons. Note that I did none of this the first ten years. We'd find out the LSD's potency the hard way. Lessons might be impressed upon us without our consent(!) The chaos and human interactions could be frightening -- usually to others, but sometimes to me. (Don't try driving!!) But over the decades I kinda honed an approach that essentially comprises medicine for the soul, for me. I think the currrent surge in interest by scientists and the general public is good up to a point, as psychedelics, used constructively, can help bolster our humanity and -- perhaps -- ease difficulties. But I could not recommend them. Either they work for you or they don't. And finding out can be tricky. Sure makes me a better-adjusted person -- and now I'm echoing Paul McCartney, I believe!

    That's all the blathering for today. As you were........

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    Leary or Pranksters?

    If I had to choose.... I would choose neither of them. While the pranksters now seem a bit ghastly, Leary seemed a bit over ambitious. I still have some of his books -that one which is a psychedelic version of The Tibetan Book of The Dead comes to mind. I think the idea was that you read it to someone who was tripping, as a means of helping them locate the light. I wonder if anyone ever did that. That idea of set and setting does ring true though - and I would say that advice has stayed appropriate down through the years

    Mr Ones - I still haven't got round to listening to Planet Waves. I always assumed it was a weaker one, but I read recently that it was very much a part of a trilogy, with "Blood on the Tracks" and "Desire", so I am hoping to check it out soon.

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    My sister lives in Mill Valley, and she used to see Weir around town all the time. (Not so much lately.) She’s not a fan, so it’s no biggie for her, but I’ve sometimes thought about what I would do if I saw Bob getting coffee or something while I was visiting her. I wouldn’t want to bother him, but I think I’d have to at least say hello, right? Say ‘thanks for the music’ at least? My other sister lives in Kauai, where Kreutzman lives now, and I’m going to be visiting her in a couple weeks. Wonder what I should say if I see BK grabbing a shave ice?

    I can definitely relate to what hendrixfreak sed: shows just got too big for my liking in the ‘80s. As a rule, I’d usually much rather see a decent band in a small club than go see some superstars in a sports arena: better sound, fewer assholes, fewer cops, room to breath. Throw psychedelics into the mix and the gap gets even wider. It’s one thing to be shrooming at the Warfield with 2,000 of deadicated Heads, quite another to try to deal with 50,000 people who seem like they just got bussed in from MTV’s spring break special. Not to mention all the security.

    In principle, I always thought it was cool that the Pranksters had such a wide open, “let’s get high and freak freely” approach to tripping, as opposed to the Millbrook thing of sitting silently in a room with a candle and saying Om or whatever. That said, I’m not sure I could’ve passed the Acid Test. My best experiences, aside from Dead shows, were always out in nature: a deserted stretch of shoreline on the Lost Coast, backpacking the Sierras, etc. I think if I would've had to try to simultaneously process Babbs' babbling, Cassidy's hammer juggling, the Dead, and 500 mics worth of Koolaid my brains probably woulda dribbled out my ears.

    Last thought: how lucky are we? The StL box continues to delight. Seven shows from three different tours, all in good-to-great sound. And the last two DaPs have also been great. I mean, millions of people love Zeppelin, the Stones, the Eagles, and other bands from back in the day, but nobody (well, except the ABB I guess) has anything like the Dead's archival release thing. Blessed be us.

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    Comus-First Utterance-Tip ‘o the hat to DAVEROCK!!
    Beatles-Get Back Rooftop Performance
    Elvis Costello-The Boy Named If
    Shuggie Otis-Inspiration Information
    Bob Dylan-Planet Waves

    It’s a crazy, mixed-up world, but Music is a consistent balm(for me at least!!).

    Dave’s 42 anyone?? It’s only about 62 days away!!

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    Billy - thanks for jogging my memory - Viola Lee Blues from 4/26/69 is included on The Phil Zone too . I didn't know they interpreted What's Become of the Baby at this show either. Bit of a missed opportunity there - if that had been included, then this show, as released, would have been unique. In a way then, Dicks Picks 26 short changes 4/26/69 a bit.

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You can listen to Grateful Dead records over and over again and never understand the attraction they have for certain people until you attend one of their concerts. Sometime during the Dead's usual five-hour set, it will all click: Jerry Garcia's Indian bead string of notes on the guitar, the ozone ooze of the vocal harmonies, the shifting, shuffling rhythm of bassist Phil Lesh and drummer Bill Kreutzmann, and the distant echo of the oldest of American folk music. - Columbia Flier

"Certain people" will know that we're coming in hot with one that's got all these things and more, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77. Yes, there's still plenty of spectacular May '77 to go around. Nearly chosen for Dave's Picks Vol. 1, 5/26/77 delivers three-fold. There's one count for the energy - all the precision of the Spring tour conjuring up the raw power of the Fall tour that was to come. There's another for the setlist which featured beloved songs from WORKINGMAN'S DEAD and soon-to-be favorites from the freshly recorded TERRAPIN STATION. And a third for its element of surprise (or shall we say surprises) from an astonishingly peak 15-minute "Sugaree" to new delights ("Sunrise," "Passenger," "Jack-A-Roe') to a rare first-set finale of "Bertha" to the second set's "Terrapin>Estimated>Eyes," traveling leaps and bounds towards the improvisational journey that is a nearly 17-minute "Not Fade Away." 

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77 was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Mon, 04/11/2022 - 19:39

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....live for the first time in support of Ukraine.
Last Twelve.
Skull & Roses Festival artists.
Circles Around The Sun and Pink Talking Fish personal highlights beyond the obvious choices.
Booked my hotel for Tedeschi Trucks Band in Red Rocks today.
Mrs. Vguy gave me her blessings. "Have fun. Be safe. Come back in one piece."
She knows I've wanted to go there since we were dating circa 1997.
Got Billy Strings this Fryday @ The Brooklyn Bowl.
Speaking of awesome venues, there's this place called The Caverns in Tennessee. Any of you ever visit? Looks neat.

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Submitted by carlo13 on Mon, 04/11/2022 - 21:28

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Proudfoot, I have some surplus C-4 plastic left over from my tripline rigged cat. converter jobber. Just pick up the priority mail package very carefully.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Mon, 04/11/2022 - 22:23

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....on utuube. Kevin Tobin.
Just do it.
Go. What are you waiting for? The "effects" during Sugaree are priceless....
I love surprises, and this is a good one.
Baked Alaska Box.

Effects, priceless. But what makes them all possible is the miracle known as "the steady cam".

Really though, great recording soundwize,,, Baked Alaska would make a fine release!!

Do it Dave!!!!

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Submitted by Dennis on Tue, 04/12/2022 - 07:37

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while checking on something saw on ebay someone selling every Dave's AND the PNW box set for the incredible low price of 7500 bucks!!!!!!

I always wonder, are people getting these prices?!?!?!?

At least I can always show my wife the fine investment I've made to our retirement fund!

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Submitted by nappyrags on Tue, 04/12/2022 - 12:02

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One that made me do my best Danny Thomas spit take was seeing the price of $165 for the empty box, no kidding, the empty cardboard box that the PNW set came in...Really? Never checked to see if it sold...

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Submitted by Chuck on Tue, 04/12/2022 - 14:11

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People are saving the Shipping Boxes???

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Submitted by carlo13 on Tue, 04/12/2022 - 14:26

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Has anyone checked out how much the 72' record box shipping would be? It's 28 lbs.. I'm guessing around $60.

Greetings Dennis,
when using eBay, you can check what stuff sold for by locating and clicking the boxes on the left margin (after searching specific items) for "completed sales" or "sold" items, words to that effect. Doing that, one can see that recently for example, some Daves Picks Vol 1 sets did sell for $350-450 or so, plus shipping and tax on top. $150 for a CD seems a bit steep to me...

....I still have all mine except the May '77 one. The missus used it to mail a package to our daughter years ago and she threw it away before I realized what had happened. Oh well. Dead World problems.

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Submitted by LedDed on Tue, 04/12/2022 - 18:14

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People are something else... as a response to the horror in Ukraine, I am seeing so much beauty and love put forth by so many from many nations... Julian Lennon, David Gilmour, so many artists are contributing what they can.

It's like the light side/dark side of the coin. I guess the thread just needs to play out. There's something whack about humanity. Whether it's the angel on one shoulder or the devil on his other, one of them needs to take V. Putin out.

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The Rolling Stones - Still Life American Concert 1981
Jimi Hendrix - People, Hell & Angels

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Tue, 04/12/2022 - 18:47

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....not sure if you're a Gov't Mule fan, but they are playing Flagstaff on June 12th. Vegas shortly after.
Edit. They only way Putin gets taken out is via the route of an inside hit. My 2 hits.

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Submitted by nappyrags on Tue, 04/12/2022 - 21:56

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...for the heads up...unfortunately I start a new gig in a few weeks working Fridays to Mondays starting at 5:00 AM...I see that they're playing the Brooklynn Bowl in Vegas...great venue...saw the Lobos there once and stayed across the walk at the hotel there...so great not having to drive anywhere after a gig...also took Señora Nappy to see one of her faves, Steve Winwood, there...thanks again...

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Submitted by Dennis on Wed, 04/13/2022 - 07:29

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Carlo - Shipping cost me 8 bucks for the 24 lp box,,,, tax was 47.

Chuck - I save all the boxes also,,, my wife will bitch about the pile. If insurance agent dropped by he'd probably cancel my homeowners for the fire hazard.

Big B - waiting for my 41 glass also AND watching for 42 to be announced.

Nappy - you may have lost the youth with the Danny Thomas reference, literally.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 04/13/2022 - 09:18

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I might have read this incorrectly.. but I think the original box all this started from might have been the actual PNW Totem Box, not the shipping box. I could be wrong, and I don't think the box is worth the $200 or whatever they are asking, but it's a pretty cool looking box set 'box'. I've got mine looming over the big screen looking down at me as I write this next to a couple of the Dave's Picks overpriced by cool highball glasses (or whatever they are). Useless swag that somehow is appealing (channeling WMD hatchet).

Dennis, after we collectively begin to pass on to the next adventure in the afterlife, all us folks at dead net are going to begin the canonization process for your wife. She is a saint, we will make sure the world knows it. As for witnessing a miracle, I am personally aware of several times she made the credit card bill go away, which saved you great personal harm, thinking specifically 30 trips around the sun, E72 travel trunk, etc. I'm sure we all have plenty of documentation and validate her trip into sainthood.

While I completely appreciate the sentiment behind Julian's song choice, not sure it was the best choice. I'm pretty sure John said "Imagine" was basically the communist manifesto. Which would have made it a poor choice given the fact it was sung in support of Ukraine.

Maybe it's just me.

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Saved all my boxes in case I ever need to store them from display. Have all the ones typically CD size in bookshelf with the DPs, RTs, DaPs, GRs in chronological order. Also if I ever need to sell, might be an added bonus.

They charged me $25 to ship Lyseum LPs across the continent, (if coming out of the west coast).

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Been sticking to vinyl and T-shirts for non-cd stuff with the exception of the WMD apron which is great for using when I'm BBQ'n and Pizza cooking. Wood've loved the hatchet to cut the wood for the pizza oven!!!

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Submitted by JeffSmith on Wed, 04/13/2022 - 11:11

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I too have a fire hazard in one corner of the studio from accumulated shipping boxes. Amazing how well-designed many of them are – bordering on functional origami.

and sez:

Hey, how about a fall '72 box this year, eh?

Then he cannonballs into the bar's Olympic-sized pool, just to get attention. Then he dries off, looks around, and sez:

WTF?! Isn't ANYONE gonna give me a yea or a nay??

Ok, I know I'm old and "metrics" are all the rage for baseball BUT....taking Clayton Kershaw out of the game after he threw 7 perfect innings and had 13 strike outs to boot is something I can't handle....fuck...

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Submitted by billy the kiddd on Wed, 04/13/2022 - 15:51

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Paul Butterfield was on the game show, To tell the Truth, just type in, Paul Butterfield to tell the truth. He actually gets up and plays the harp. One of my favorite harp players.

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Submitted by Chuck on Wed, 04/13/2022 - 16:38

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Nappy.........I feel your pain, I grew up in Philly and Robin Roberts had 33 complete games one year. It is a different game and it is changing every year

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Submitted by nappyrags on Wed, 04/13/2022 - 18:20

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Happy 78th Birthday to Mr. Jack "Bad Ass" Casady!!! Such a monster player and all around great person....

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Submitted by nappyrags on Wed, 04/13/2022 - 18:22

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If a divorced parsley farmer falls behind on child support can you garnish his wages?

Okay, Hendrixfreak, still love your passion for fall 72, but didn't we just have three 72 shows in the last box?
I don't see it.

Would love to see Dave surprise us with something completely new, but old patterns die hard. Oh and don't forget the shorts Hendrixfreak!

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Submitted by daverock on Thu, 04/14/2022 - 03:57

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Maybe they will release the same shows that were in the box last year, but this time on vinyl. Presented in a newly designed, super deluxe, cardboard box.

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Submitted by dmcvt on Thu, 04/14/2022 - 04:29

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Hey Nappy, Thanks for the birthday wishes for Jack. Maybe I am too old to resist another back in the day comment... but they are next door to being homies. I grew up just outside of DC in Maryland, Jack and Jorma lived across the street from each other around two miles away, but they were in DC so they went to a different high school, Woodrow Wilson. And they were a little older but they were jamming back in junior high and had a band, The Triumphs in high school. My only knowledge of them then was through a mutual friend who also lived in DC and went to their school. Have seen them a bunch, last show was acoustic at a beautiful old opera house in central Vermont, Jack was playing a gorgeous custom instrument. The line to meet and greet after the show was way too long, so wrote to their publicist afterwards and asked about it. Two days later, a personal response came from Jack describing it and how there was a lock of his dearly beloved wife's hair inside. May go see them over in Plymouth NH in a few weeks, if not out of town.

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Submitted by billy the kiddd on Thu, 04/14/2022 - 07:10

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In the photos from inside Live Dead, Jack Cassady is guy who is laying face down on the ground in the one photo where the Dead are all sitting on the car.

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Thu, 04/14/2022 - 09:43

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So my actual thought process (read: mind spasm) was that
a) Dave once said that a fall '72 box "would happen someday"
b) It's 2022 this year
c) a fall '72 box would sell like hot cakes
d) it's counterintuitive, but last year's (3) '72 shows wouldn't stop Dave/Rhino from scoring $$

Still, there's that pesky question of how often I've predicted the box to come. It's about 1 in 1,000. So there's that.

At least I'm sticking my neck out. What's YOUR prediction?? Anyone?? They're not going to stop with E72 vinyl...

And yes, long live Jack and Jorma! Been catching their shows since ~1975. Last show I saw at Boulder Theater ~27 Feb 2020. The Before Times.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Thu, 04/14/2022 - 10:18

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Hendrixfreak,
Alpine Valley East Troy Wisconsin
Three shows from 1987
Four shows from 1988
Three shows from 1989 with Blu-ray.

Has to be coming out at some point, why not this year.

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Thu, 04/14/2022 - 16:14

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Anything certainly is possible and Dave spoke of "something different," which of course could mean Rhino gets into selling frozen salmon...

So I tout fall '72 cuz that was the period of my first show.

What do Alpine Valley performances do for you? Favorite tapes or did you attend a shit-ton of shows there?

Funny you mention those years, because after 3 shows at Red Rocks and 2 shows in Telluride in '87 I voluntarily stepped off the bus after 15+ years. Of course, I timed it so I had caught every single Red Rocks GD show they ever played. Just got a tad burned out on the scene and Jer had faltered, etc.

Anyone else dare to play the 2022 box GUESS WHAT game?

I thought the Alpine Valley shows were recorded in glorious multi-track. Then again, I could be wrong..

If not, Healy recorded them and most of the Healy era appear to be in the vault. Downhill From Here is certainly not a cassette master and I do believe these shows are in the vault. If you don't trust me, feel free to ask someone that really knows. :D

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Submitted by proudfoot on Thu, 04/14/2022 - 19:41

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For christmas season

Some 89 tour

....just ask my St. Louis Box.
Also a fan of regional boxes. Just ask my PNW Box.
Anchorage mini-box one day.
Or a VEGAS BOX?
Lot of artists that sat in during those shows though. To much appreciation of the crowd. Musical rights will hinder it and will probably never happen. But one can dream....
I got Billy Strings tomorrow. My body and mind are ready. Probably my last chance to catch him at a relatively small venue. Dude is lightning in a bottle. He caught me off guard last year. Not this time.
Edit. Marlins win their home opener and the Golden Knights are crushing my old team. Vegas needs W's.
Phish is playing on 4.20. MSG delayed New Years run.
I'm making bacon. AKA meat candy.
Insert Homer Simpsons mouth drool gif HERE.

Hendrixfreak, yes, as Jim said, 89 was recorded in multi-track and those three shows in July might be the best of the July run. Although, it is all relative as July 89 was all so good.
I would think they have 87 and 88 as well, but those most likely are not multi track.
So, I did see all the shows there 87-89 and 86.
The post coma shows and the return of Jerry to me were the time of my life. Alpine was probably the best outdoor venue in the Midwest at the time. They allowed camping back then and it was so great. I think they really enjoyed playing there and they were able to stay in Lake Geneva and helicopter to the venue. A real experience. If you don't have Downhill from Here, it is worth grabbing a copy. More stories to come when the box gets released, don't want to bore you too much now.

And yes Vguy, bring on Alaska 80!

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Submitted by billy the kiddd on Fri, 04/15/2022 - 07:15

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This is my favorite show from the big box.

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Fri, 04/15/2022 - 08:07

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So fall '72 is near and dear to me because I caught my first show (9-19-72) exactly one month after turning 15. Having listened for the prior year to WD, AB and Skull & Roses, the new E72 music kinda mystified me. (The E72 album didn't come out til November.)

Word (can't recall my source) is that this show is in the vault but lacking the first reel. So I'm keen to find out if it resides among the mystery reels in possession of the OSF. Perhaps I'm not the only one. When a "new" '68 tape (3 reels) shows up, hope springs eternal.

Fortunately, so far, TPTB have released seven shows I attended, just under 10% of the shows I caught. What an odd flashback-laden memento... Certainly, the juxtaposition of that 15-year-old lad loose in a minor league ballpark with 20,000 tripping freaks to the 64-year-old in smoking jacket, listening to the music of 50 years ago, could produce the basic plot for a Twilight Zone episode.

But I digress. I did not catch the GD in '89, but the one official video I've seen, Jer is killing it and physically animated. So the attraction of Alpine '89 is clear, even to this addled crunch-o.

Well, first up is Feb '74 and then I'd guess a delayed box announcement as they flog the '72 vinyl. Wouldn't surprise me if this year's box doesn't land until fall, which would mean a summer pre-order. Hey, I'm in no rush, at this age... but, yeah, the annual mystery always intrigues me.

P.S. the "I'm not a robot" thing-y must be getting suspicious that I'm an evil algorithm, because it made me take like three tests: fire hydrants, then chimneys x 2. They'll never catch me!

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Submitted by Colin Gould on Fri, 04/15/2022 - 09:11

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I notice the new limited edition print from Garcia Family Provisions comes on acid free paper! Surely a missed opportunity?

I’ve just started reading ‘Bill Frisell Beautiful Dreamer’ More comments when I finish it, which could be a while since it’s about 500 pages long.

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