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    One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

    First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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    First off, welcome back Dennis! I totally understand on the Charles Lloyd set. I did pick
    up the first “trio” CD (the one with Frisell), but haven’t had a chance to play it yet. Expectations are high. I don’t think the vinyl box set is limited issue (I don’t think), so no rush to get it yet. I didn’t realize until yesterday that Lloyd & Frisell played the Ottawa Jazz Festival this past weekend, which is only a 4 hour car hike from here, and would have been a great weekend trip for the wife and I. Like the Toronto Maple Leafs - next time(sorry for the hockey talk Dennis). PS - I have some albums by the “other” Bill Evans, the sax player (he has played with Hornsby) - he is a decent player. Tell me your impressions of the Miles album when you can.

    Sixtus/Oro - I was thinking another way to approach this “Which Artists” to listen to for piano jazz, since the lists everyone provided were really great, but perhaps overwhelming, is to approach it more organically, ie - the kneebone is connected to the shinbone etc. Start with a jazz artist you perhaps know, and see what side players he or she plays with. Who contributes to their sound? Or labels. Blue Note, a great jazz label for generations is a great one to start with. A great many recordings in the 50s & 60s on that label were produced by Rudy Van Gelder. Like all Producers, he had “go to” musicians he would call into the studio to back an artist. Tony Williams, drummer, is making a solo album, Van Gelder may call on a young Herbie Hancock, or Wayne Shorter, Joe Henderson etc. Next, Shorter is making an album, who backs him up? How about all the truly remarkable musicians Miles Davis worked with? Four of them became star keyboard players in their own right: Jarrett, Corea, Hancock, and Zawinul (who had a budding career with Cannonball Adderley).
    I always found in music in general, and jazz in particular, the kneebone is connected to the shinbone; you like “this”, you’ll definitely like “that”.

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    1st show and jingles

    I have an LP of Winston cigarette ads that were played on the radio. My father got this from somewhere, I was maybe 16. Still have.

  • Dennis
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    Don't forget Jeff Chimenti,,, who I think is better than Keith.

    Some mentioned Bill Evans piano player.

    I just got in my vinyl copy of Miles Davis Live - What it Is - Montreal 7/7/83. Reading the back cover and there is Bill Evans, only he's playing saxes and flutes. So I looked it up,,, it said this.....

    This double LP release features one of Miles Davis' final great bands: John Scofield on guitar, Bill “The Other Bill Evans” Evans on saxophones, flute and electric piano, Darryl Jones on bass, Al Foster on drums, and percussionist Mino Cinelu.

    So there are two Bills. I think one must have a goatee and be from the evil universe!

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    Can't talk piano players without mentioning Keith Godchaux, at one time one of the greatest piano players 9n Earth.

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    We have the same blessing/curse of remembering esoteric things like jingles. Every cigarette, beer, cereal, appliance, and car ad had a jingle. Now they just steal a song we all liked and now can't stand as they've ruined it for us. Really, "Everybody Damp Rid"? Or "All Right Now" for a drug I don't need? One of the favorite games my wife and I play is to jam together songs and jingles that have nothing to do with each other. You start with Red Red Robin and end up at the Woody Woodpecker theme then Diamonds Are a Girl's Best Friend or the Dick Van Dyke show. Likely because we can't remember the whole thing anyway. I think the advertisers in the 60's had evil intentions for our little spongy brains. I'm the youngest of three and the back seat of the car was where I might subject my sisters to hours long renditions of This Old Man. "Mom, make him stop!" Unfortunately an earworm can really screw up my day even now. So the cure is to just have music on all the time. Music is the best.
    Cheers

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    Only gone for 4 days I come back to 17 pages of "stuff"! (ok, once I stripped away hockey it was only a half page :-) )

    Too much to cover or comment on,,,,, but I try a little.

    That Mike - Chuck Lloyd, thanks for the heads up. Chuckie will be on back burner for now. 600 bucks for the 24 albums and a box set yet to come?!?! My wife's wallet does have limits!

    Springsteen,,,, ok I'm from Jersey, past that, Bruce appeared in my life at the right time I guess. His songs always speak to me of hope and the struggles of the working stiff.

    Disco - I was big on the disco ball. Back in the late seventies with Frankie Crocker on WBLS,,,, stereo in black. I believe you'd find a lot of recording technics came out of the that disco vein.

    Couple of unmentioned disco headphone songs,,,, Peter Brown - Do You Want to Get Funky with Me. CJ & Co - The Devil's Gun, or Santa Esmeralda - Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood. GREAT, GREAT album of day and GREAT GREAT headphone album,,,, Dr Buzzard's Original Savannah Band!!!!

    Zappa,,, I keep buying his "stuff", I like a chunk, a chunk can be tedious. Sometimes GREAT ability does not translate to enjoyable. If you're a musician maybe you can be awed by technical, but if you're an idiot like me you can't tell he just played an augmented Major G in a diminished F. Also the twice I caught Frank he seemed to think he was doing you a favor by playing and you should be thankful he did!

    Jazz piano,,,, you read the list people posted and you like, oh yeah, him. I like when some said don't forget tatum and liberace. On the Oscar front, my buddy is a huge fan. Caught him whenever he played. He had an album called something like "for my friends". He had this one cut where he was playing song "a". Right hand carried the melody and left belting out rhythm. All of sudden left hand started playing a different song , "B". So now he's playing two songs at the same time. Notes from song "A" start walking down to the bass end, while song "B" starts walking to high end. The two hands cross each other while jamming out and poof, back to one song "A". I was wowed to say the least! :-)

    Charlie 3 - Ipanema (great tune). I used to go to this restaurant/coffee house/bar. They would have bands, small venue 20-30 people listening to this group. They started playing Ipanema and out of this crowd comes this woman steps up to the mike and starts sing the lyrics in Portuguese and she sounds exactly like the origial! Song ended and she went back and sat down. Blew the room away and I think the band!

    Mr Ones,,,, I pretty sure I have the motown hippo stuff

    Finally an incredible flash-back moment. Sorting thru the latest treasure trove of music I've recently received I stumbled across Miriam Makeba,,, name meant nothing to me. Wiki said she was the voice of Africa (or something like that). Sorted and filed all. I always listened to pieces of what I add to my collection so I have some idea of what's what. So it looked like a cut "pata pata" was her big hit. I put it on and my head exploded. I knew the song, but had not thought about it since it came out. I mean I had not THOUGHT at all about it, which is odd for me since I have almost every tune I know running thought my head at all time. Even the childhood ones I learned in 1st grade!! I don't think a month goes by when I don't find myself singing the Erie Canal! Trust me I've never navigated on it, but sing about once a month. :-) Commerical jingles always run though me,,,,, remember this one,,,, My beer is Reingold the dry beer, think of Reingold whenever you buy beer. It's refreshing, not sweet, it's the extra dry drink. Would try extra dry Reingold beer?

    Like Monk,,, it's a blessing,,,,,,,, and a curse! (mostly for the people that have to listen to me sing them :-) )

    Sorry for the ramble, but you did leave me 17 pages to comment on! (but no hockey comments thankfully)

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    Amazing piano solo on David Bowie's "Alladdin Sane". Decades ago, a mate of mine wrote to Mike Garson, asking for a transcription of the solo. Incredibly he got a reply. Not a transcription, though. If I remember rightly, Garson said he couldn't transcribe it if he tried. Hats off to him for replying though.

    Practising 4 hours a day for 15 years on any instrument is cheating. As the man said, we could all be good if we did that.

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    I'll go with the old school: Albert Ammons, Duke Ellington, Count Basie, Willie "the Lion" Smith, Fats Waller.

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One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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First comment!
Psyched for this one, wish we knew bonus tracks?

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I see someone's unfamiliar with the GD: "listening party" says 1971.

c'mon...

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So great skating on a fresh sheet of ice, or writing on a fresh comment board!

Great set, great artwork, from a truly great band!

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I think it was announced way back as
US Blues
It Must Have been the Roses
Playing
Ship of Fools
China > Rider
Uncle Johns Band
I think three are first time performances
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glad you got your glass I got one too since I was shut out a few issues ago
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Listen to the open of “Here Comes Sunshine” and to hear Donna immediately go off key just ruins it. They could keep her honest in the studio but live, forget about it. Saw many shows of that era. It was always a relief when she left the stage. It’s a shame, that was peak musically for them

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I also would like to thank Rhino & Warner Music Group for getting Dave a new camera. I know it's primary use is for business promotional purposes & I hope it serves that function well......In all seriousness I am thankful for all these releases, but I really do not care that it took a year for Rhino to upgrade Dave's equipment. If anything that's somewhat ridiculous. Sorry if I'm killing the positive vibes here. I am very much looking forward to receiving this release & I have no beef with David L.

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....I'm in.

And, the glass.

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That's a shame for something thats limited. Why not one each?

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I'm in (w/ the bonus disc). I'm not going to be caught at the next get together without my Winterland '74 highball glass. As for '74 (and I guess the glass too), If it makes you happy, it can't be that bad.

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Can I get this on vinyl?

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Can I get this on vinyl?

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Let's do this!!!!
ALWAYS PLAY DEAD
PLAY DEAD LOUD

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First year subscriber. Odd putting that US Blues from another era in the middle of the show, but that pick 41 was fantastic! This one looks great too. I miss the days of buying albums and now stream most of my music that is not on my 60 gig iPod (yeah I’m old). So it is a treat to get a cd in the mail, crank it up, have a beer, read the liner notes, etc. Can’t wait til 42 arrives. Thanks Dave.

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That was easy enough. I saw a lot of great shows in Winterland. Hopefully , one of the next 2 Dave's Picks will be from 1970 or earlier.

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Love to see what the bonus cover is like - hopefully a close-up of the ship with the WOS in the Rigging - reminds me of the "No Friggin' in the Riggin'" T-Shirt I had childhood adolescence.

Totally regret reacting slow on the Thelma T, sold out when I went to pull the trigger. That one is awesome, wish there was a reprint...

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Glass ordered.

If I read right, are you only getting the bonus disc is you subscribe, not if you buy ala carte?

The listening party sounds GREAT, shame some Donna shaming already.

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gimme gimme gimme.

Sixtus good seeing you.

That Mike: did you get the Allman's FoxBox? If you did, hope you enjoyed...

Great stuff - 1974 is one of my favourite years. As I understand it, the bonus disc is only for people who subscribe, which rules me out as I bought mine a la carte. But that's alright, mama, that's alright with me.

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Yes, I did get the Allman’s Fox Box, and it Rox!

I remember you mentioned you saw these shows - I’ll bet the ABB just rocked that old theatre, because they sound like fantastic recordings!

Oro - nice job hitting the ice first!! Touché, sir!

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.... I can hear the WOS all the way over here in Michigan. Sounds great! :-D

Too bad it will take three months for the glass to catch up.

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Part of the 2022 subscription. If you didn’t order the subscription, you can order it now a la carte

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I usually hit the ice first…face first that is ; )

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If this is not bull crap what is - the bonus disc used to be pre - order , now it is subscription based ? wow how the capitalists scum bags have stolen the ethos of the Grateful Dead - free concerts being sold is cool,someone had to remix them OK , a bonus disc for pre orders is an encouragement to order early, FINE
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- a bonus disc only for subscriptions is BULL SH*T 100% elitist and ugly - I hope you guys are paying the families of the tapers for the recordings if every penny is being collected - DEAD.net is now as ugly as TRUMP.ORG - are you going to sell membership cards next ?

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From my cassette/Internet Archive digitization project:
GOGD Red Rocks 9/8/83
GOGD Watsonville 9/25/83 - a great outdoor show with an awesome China Rider.
Digitizing for a friend:
Fela and his 35 piece afro-beat orchestra, Berkeley Community Theater 11/14/86

GOGD St Louis 10/29/73 - Powerful Eyes of the World into China Doll
The Byrds - The Notorious Bird Brothers - a psychedelic masterpiece

I'm reading Chris Hillman's autobiography " Time Between" which inspired me to provide a Byrds music background. It's pretty good, and it's interesting to read his description of working and living with Gram Parson as they teamed up as the Burrito Brothers.

subscriptions were last year and it was an ok sale price but Dick's Picks has some lemons - I figured to avoid lemons like Edition #39 which was ugly - I would pre-order - but no bonus disc now, those are only for those that buy blindly into a subscription and is imho - UGLY and WRONG

Every member of the band is a millionaire and the road crew famously got paid well by the band - why are they squeezing us for every cent to get the music ?? pre order for a bonus disc - sure like the best seats in the house you have to be in line early - but subscription only - Does Bobby and the living members know about this ?? I doubt it - this is GREED

Skyscraper - I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings, but it's no longer possible to take a subscription out for 2022. You can only do that for a limited period of time from when the first two releases in the series are named - 'round about November of the preceding year in question, I think.
Hey - how about this for a last 5 -
From Western Swing To Rock cd 1.........Bill Haley and various bands
Complete Motown Singles Volume 7 cd 4 - 1967.......Various
Jerry Lee Lewis at Sun Records Collected Works cd 11.........Jerry Lee Lewis
1st Album..........The Stooges
Stax Volt Singles 1959-1968 cd 2........Various

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Wow! That's one clear, and great sounding eyes. I can't wait for this one, and the bonus disk too. You have got to subscribe to get the whole enchilada.

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Recorded by Kidd from the 2/22/74 performance.

U.S. Blues
Must've Been the Roses
Playing in the Band
Ship o Fools
China Cat Sunflower >
I Know You Rider
Uncle John's Band

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Chill out on the corporate greed baloney. $99, and some change for 4 complete shows,and a bonus disk. It does not get any better for 4 live unreleased limited shows of luxurious music Xanadu.

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I decided to order the glass for the first time. Use it ? ........Display it ?........I got plenty of time to decide. I'll have to stay away from the chat until after I play #42 and the Bonus. I never check out any of the setlists before listening and already may know more that I want to. This is the 44th anniversary of the first Werewolves, and I was there. The only time I was at a "first time played" show. I also took some very nice black and white photos from the show, which I still have. Very cool to see how the band positions were different during tours.

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Ted

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I could be wrong, but I don't recall the bonus disc ever being included with pre-orders; always has been for subscribers only.
By the way, I just got off the phone with Bobby and he's fully aware of the situation; he doesn't care though, he bought his own subscription back in November to make sure he got the bonus disc.

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Seriously, now folks, anyone who can show up TODAY and whine about a 1974 release or find time to diss Donna Jean is really just a comment on their own miserable lives.

Can't you see the sign? NO POOPING HERE! And the fine print: If you must, do it in your own shorts.

Happy to have the show and bonus disc. Many thanks to the team for putting this out. Glad to see the usual crowd digging on what'll be a fantastic 5+ hours of prime GD.

That is all...

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Bonus Discs have been for Subscriptions only since the beginning.

Nice!!!

Lot of hardwork in digitizing, thanks for the effort.

Maybe one day I can hear some. 1983 on Archive?

G

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Recall that just eight months or so later, after this show, there was ample concern that the Dead were done and might not ever appear again, known now as the hiatus. Watched Grateful Dawg not long ago, it had been years, so refreshing, check it out if you have not seen it in a while. Though I stopped going to their shows after Lewiston 1980, I never stopped listening to the music. Thrilled to be at Dear Jerry, a place I had seen much music as a kid. Thankful to be on the bus for so much of what has been released. Every year at subscription time, I think of the large amount of GD music on the shelves and every year, I say hell no, I can't stop now.

For the most part, we are all here to celebrate music, especially the music we love so much. So... FYI, At the risk of presenting information that is a little stale, the following appeared in an industry publication over a year ago:

The Dead’s business brain trust is a collective of stakeholders including all the remaining band members (Lesh, Weir, Kreutzmann and Hart), represented by their individual managers; members of Garcia’s family (Marc Allan of Red Light Management oversees Garcia’s musical output); and the band’s management, Bernie Cahill at Activist Artists Management and industry veteran Kraig Fox. All are card-carrying Deadheads for whom preserving, not perverting, the legacy is paramount.

According to sources familiar with the band’s finances, the Dead could easily command $150 million for rights to its name, likeness and IP.

It’s proof positive that nostalgia factors greatly in the business of the Dead, not just emotionally but with a steady stream of products. “I find it super exciting,” says Mark Pinkus, president of Rhino Records, the Warner Music Group label that houses all of the Grateful Dead catalog. “The band is very unique in that it has iconography that is striking and timeless.”

There's a snapshot only, from an industry publication.

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Jeez I've read a lot of nonsensical comments so far...are these the grandchildren of the clown in the GD movie complaining about being filmed? they are so wrong (except about Donna of course) about it all....AND HAPPY BICYCLE DAY FOLKS!!! And thank you Dr. Hoffman....I will get my bonus disc as I am a subscriber and I also ordered one ala carte for one of my tech challenged buddies (we're old)...Hasta all...

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I have given enough money to the GD and should probably stop subscribing. I havent been in "the zone" for a few months now and have been finding GD tiresome.

And where in dafuq is 6 10 73?!?

But I will subscribe again. Elitist or not.

Someday the GD buzz will come back.

"The whole universe is completely insane!"

"Yep."

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Not trying to stir the pot but i don't know if the bonus disc info going around is correct. DL usually packs these babies with as much music as possible. The tracks listed here for bonus disc don't seem to fit that. Oh well, find out soon enough!! Stay Grateful....and yeah, subscribe!!!! Best deal around!

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I for one am thankful for all of these releases. Time and Time again I will listen to an official release and marvel at the sound quality they've engineered from old tapes. There are rough spots, but overall they are stunning. They sound better than they would have sounded 30 years ago, thanks to amazing computer technology. Sometimes I just shake my head in amazement (with tears in my eyes) that so much of this material was recorded and salvaged, and I feel fortunate that I can experience it in such quality, sitting by the pool with a buzz and a beer on a warm summer evening. All of this could have easily been ignored and lost......how lucky we are!

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my dog has no nose!

"No nose? How does she smell?"

Bloomin' awful!

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D bowie Lodger
D bowie Scary Monsters
Swans Cop

uhhhh....

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I know you were just trolling but I have to say…nothing. Enjoy your sad, meaningless life Skippy, Lord knows you deserve it!!

To everyone else…I missed the first bonus disc that came with the final year of Road Trips, and, dammit, I haven’t missed another one since. That’s called live and learn.
Someone was nice enough to burn me a copy, but I sure would love to have a physical copy. Maybe I’ll get lucky one day.
I’m excited to hear this show(and bonus), I’ve not heard it previously. Someone commented that there weren’t enough tracks to fill the bonus disc. 7 tracks is plenty, if that’s a 35 minute Playing In The Band. This one really feels like a long time coming.
And yes, it’s always nice to get a new thread. Stay safe all, and if you don’t play Dead, for God’s sake, play SOMETHING!!

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