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April 19, 2022 - 9:21am

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One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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June 16, 2022 - 9:56am

#571

Dennis

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We're the People

Grapes of Wrath, great. Great scene in movie is when mother is looking in the dirty mirror and holding up her earrings. The look on the face speaks volumes.

One of the small one from the Stein-man, My Travels with Charley. If you ever crossed country road tripped,,, this is the book. Cool thing book is written like a road trip. The return home is summed up quickly.
June 16, 2022 - 9:56am

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JimInMD

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Re: Religion/BTK

Billy, I believe you are referencing the 9th commandment, "Thy shalt not covet thy neighbor's Fillmore West 1969 The Complete Recordings Boxset"

GFar, I read your Do any of ya'll have funky joints and almost commented about the newly diagnosed arthritis in my wrist (painful!). Then I thought.. maybe you were talking about joints you know.. the kind you smoke, then I realized you were talking about venues. Made me laugh a little.. I guess it doesn't much to confuse me or make me laugh, rough going here this week.
June 16, 2022 - 9:06am

#573

billy the kiddd

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Gary/ Oakland Auditorium

Gary, I haven't been to the Oakland Auditorium since 1989, the last time I saw the Dead there. My friends and I used to do some heavy partying there before each show. I also saw the Nevilles open for the Dead a few times, they played great. One of my friends saw Bob Marley play there in the 1970s, another friend saw Willie Nelson put on a killer show there. We used to hang around Lake Merritt before some shows, I told my friend who lived in Oakland, in the same neighborhood Huey Newton lived in, about us hanging out by Lake Merritt, and he said we shouldn't do that because it was not very safe. They recently found a dead body inside one of the walls when they were doing some construction work, they believe it was a homeless person who was walled in there during the original construction. Old and In the Way played there once in 1973. I saw a lot of cool Dread shows there.
June 16, 2022 - 8:38am

#574

lebowski99

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Feeling threatened/books/beats/Steinbeck

Based on Angry Jack Straw's recommendation, I decided to read some John Steinbeck - I'd only read Of Mice and Men when I was about 13 and don't remember much about it, but AJS turned me on to one of the best books I've read in the last 10 years, A Gentleman in Moscow, so I knew he wouldn't steer me wrong.

Started with Grapes of Wrath. I was expecting a great deal of pathos and a wide scope of humanity and the book delivers in spades. There's also the theme of hating the "other" - in this case, the Okies and other migrants fleeing to California in search of a better life (or really, any sustainable life at all.) Captures this conflict vividly. Still holds true today. Steinbeck balances this, thankfully, with repeated acts of kindness, even between those without two nickels to rub together.

What I didn't expect in this book is Steinbeck's vibrant, almost beat-like prose. The sections where he telescopes into themes of the whole society could have been written by Allen Ginsburg (on his best day.) I need to do some research, but there's no way the beats were not influenced by Steinbeck. (Maybe I'm late to the party on this connection - wouldn't be the first time!)

Anyway, Thanks AJS and thanks to all the contributors on this site. These are dark days and I need to be reminded daily to treat others with kindness and to enjoy all the beauty the world does have to offer. Just gotta poke around.
June 16, 2022 - 8:35am

#575

Gary Farseer

Joined:
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Carlo3

Any way, last year yall had a discussion called when was your mind first blown. It was at this show. I wrote a huge article for that topic but never posted it. It had lynks with pictures of Oakland Auditorium. Sad that the beautiful palace has been shuttered, at least as of last year, and no movement to do anything about it. Man, the Nevilles laying down the funk, just dropped moments before I went forth. Great night!!! If anyone wants that write up i may be able to send as pm. Maybe BTK can update on that beautiful facility.

Do yall have any other funky joints out there? Of course, wish I had gone to the Warfield but doubt it was that dank. Well maybe wrong there, as the boys would have been there. Also was at the recording of Govt Mule's "the deepest end" at the Saenger in New Orleans, which was the Friday show before the funky meters on Monday (Sunday) at midnight. That is an excellent dvd if you can find it. That was a long show approaching 8 hours. Let out around 3:30 am or so on Saturday morning. Saenger another great theater, of course, the fellas did the 2 1980 accoustic shows there. Would have loved to have been there
June 16, 2022 - 8:26am

#576

Gary Farseer

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Carlo 2

As an aside, one of the most funky theaters I was ever in was in New Orleans. Was there to see the Funky Meters with Papa Funk and George Porter Junior and Brian Stolz on guitar. They were a later version of The Meters. I cant remember which theater it was in but the show was only thing on the card that night. Show started at midnight. It was old, dark, extremely dank with herbage and alcohol oooozing forth. It reminds me of the theater in EFNY that cabbie goes into. It also reminded me of my first real dank place which was Oakland Auditorium/Kaiser. Here walking into OA with the same band or big brother of the Funky Meters, the Neville Brothers. Joint was jumping and contact high took maybe 30 seconds. One of my highlight shows as Willie was out front. Got to see the Truckin Floor there.
June 16, 2022 - 7:58am

#577

billy the kiddd

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Anniversary show 6/14/85. Greek Theatre

37 years and 2 days ago I was at the Greek Theatre for a knockout show with the Good Ole Grateful Dead.. This was one of my favorite shows the Dead played at the Greek. Great 1st set , 2nd set set opens with Morning Dew and closes with Comes a Time. I had an absolute blast at this show! Hopefully, these Greek shows will be released as a box set. 1985, the Greek falls between monster shows at the Frost and Ventura, all release worthy.
June 16, 2022 - 7:42am

#578

proudfoot

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11 6 77

I gave that a listen yesterday
Niiice.

Two things that distracted me...
Scarlet...Jerry disappears for while... that has always deflated some of the show's power to me
Keith....BAMBAMBAMBAMBAMBAMBAMBAM!!!!!

Truckin' is awesome
June 16, 2022 - 4:05am

#579

daverock

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Feeling threatened?

It seems to me that people who feel threatened by gay people are afraid of something that is different from the way they themselves are. Or of the way they actually are, but are afraid to face up to. If that's the case it's a form of self hatred.

But fear of the "other" has a ghastly reach across all sections of most societies. Fear of people who talk differently, dress differently, think differently, come from a different ethnic background, come from a different class.......you could go on, and on and on and...

If you think you are not like that yourself - the likelihood is that you are, you just aren't aware of it.
June 16, 2022 - 2:06am

#580

carlo13

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Gary

I agree with you on the EFNY 2. It must have been fun as the projectorist on the original escape from new York. I love how Bob hauk said " I'm ready to kick your ass out of this world, war hero."

John Perry Barlow

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One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

Record Store Day - Accomplished

Out of house at 5:15 AM, in line at 5:55. Doors opened at 7. Store did a great job of line control, was out of store by 8:15.

Once I get the Mama box of Europe LP's, I will have 6 of the 22 Europe shows on vinyl! Yeah!?!

There's only 6 that's been released, right?

One more thing Nitecat. . .

Hey Nitecat, It would be extremely cool if you could tell us more about your taping days: recording rig, adventures at venues, taping before and after there was a tapers' section, etc. Tapers' tales are always fascinating, but there just aren't enough of them. Nudge, nudge. . . Still wandering through the 13 of your shows I found on the Archive, for which an ongoing THANK YOU! for sharing. Bravissimo!

BTW: I just realized that your auds from 10/10/80 & 10/11/80 got mislabeled/misfiled on the Archive as 10/10/89 & 10/11/89. I wondered about the gap between '80 and '89 in you taping efforts, and was surprised that your taping equipment was the same after nine years. That 'splains it. Onward

Six and a bit

Dennis - the Dark Star from Paris 5/4/72 was issued on vinyl on RSD about 10 years ago too.

Dave and the Dark Star Album

I assume they will release that whole show,,,, I also assume they will release ALL of E72 on vinyl. This will make a nice compliment to the steamer trunk,,,, to have the whole run on cd AND vinyl.

WOW,,,, I shutter at the ebay price!

Sold out prediction

I do have a side hustle as a soothsayer

Daves 44 will be 2 17 79 and 4 22 79 combo as billy calls for

Daves 43...I sense an 84

E72 on vinyl

Dennis - It would be good if they do - but they need to make them available to buy in Blighty for me to splash out.

Shipping notice received

Tracking not yet available.
I expect delivery next Friday or Saturday based on past timetables.

Local record shop opened at 8, I got out of bed at 10, just had breakfast, now starting my first cup of coffee.
I’ll probably get to the record shop around 12:15.
Will there be a copy for me? I’ll let you know later.

Nitecat’s shows

They’re all on Losslesslegs too, under Wiseman.
I grabbed 6-13,14-80 so far but haven’t listened yet.

Thanks Nitecat.

Nite Cat

Seattle...very nice pull indeed!

Again, thanks so much!!!

@ Carlo - guessing Mark Pinkus or Phil gets numero uno

Dave is always displaying the one he gets in the mail on twitter - from what I recall it's always in the middle or back of the pack. That might be his playing edition, but I like him at the helm. My guess is Pinkus gets numero uno, maybe they save #1 for the GD Museum.

My best digits was #75 for DaP12 and #26 for St Louis Box. My triple digits are DaP38, RFK '89 and 1st Spring 1990. The rest are four or five digits. I typically order within an hour when new product or subscription announced, but been doing subscription from year 2.

Was bummed that my 30Trips was so far down the numerical list since I ordered it in 1st five minutes, but then again, once it's taken out of shrinkwrap its value diminishes drastically.

Thanks, Nitecat!

Belatedly and haven't got there yet, but do look forward to listening. Much appreciation for that... also like to hear a recording adventure story or 3 back in the day. My audio geekdom aside, any details about process too. Gary might have been confused, twas me who wrote I stopped going to Dead shows in 1980. Not that I don't look back with regret on that, it was partly their scene changing and my full dive into jazz. 1980 moved deep into mountains of Vermont, half way off the grid, organic, back to the land adventures previously begun in Maine. Just a few random east coast shows after that for quite a while. Never music on the west coast, huge void there. Out in San Francisco summer 1968, 16, but with parents, kibosh on possible Santana and Dead (Fillmore and/or Shrine) shows, arrghh. Billy The Kidd, thanks for banging the drum on a 60s box, Rhino must have heard almost enough by now, just put 5-6 concerts together, 12-15 discs or so, bingo, 10K sell out. Last Beer: Lagunitas The Waldos. Last music, Rory Block, various.

Trade?

Hey All,

I've been waiting for this notification to arrive in my inbox... Not seeing it, I checked and had an oh-crap moment and realized that I somehow failed to order a subscription this year. Could have sworn I had ordered it, but then again I'm the same dummy that accidentally ordered 2 subscriptions for 2020 (forgetting that I'd already ordered one).

So, would love to connect with anyone who would be interested in trading their 2022 CD's (unopened would be great, but opened is fine as long as they're not scratched or damaged) for my unopened copies of the 2020 series (33-36). Please message me here, or at brewbat2 at yahoo dot com. Thanks y'all!

RSD 2022 success

Just got back from a casual stroll into Newbury Comics and despite my horror at finding a gaping hole in the Gs of their display, a clerk happily told me they had a bunch, but due to their size, couldn't display them all, so he pulled out about 5 copies and handed me one. Inquired on the Ramones box and they had only gotten one copy, so not needing anything else, I departed 155 bucks lighter, but with 5LPs of the show where the Dead really started their storming of Europe. The first night is okay, but this show has long seen Most Highly Favored Status along with a handful of others from Europe (4/26, 5/3, 5/7, 5/26). A welcome addition to the collection. Look forward to listening, not sure I'll do a straight through like I did 5/3 this time last year...

DMCVT

Thanks for the correction. I thought when I posted Maine 1980 that I might have mixed two for one.

I can understand the deep jazz dive. I am a lover of all kinds of music.

Several months back there was discussion of the most quiet moment experienced in a live setting. Absolutely a brilliant Morning Dew can have that quiet chills moment. In the early 1990's, I saw Itzhak Perlman with the local symphony orchestra. He was so impressive, walking across the stage with his polio crutches. He then put on an hour show that was incredible. He had a moment where the whole hall hung on this incredibly quiet passage. He gave his all. Sweating profusely. He barely had the energy to walk off of the stage. One of my highlights of seeing music that goes back for me to 1972.

As far as Jazz saw Dizzy Gillespie fried on white lightning at the Blue Note in Greenwich (ooops edit) Village. Have seen him 3 times, 2 in NYC and once in my home town. Have seen Preservation Hall Jazz band numerous times, locally and in New Orleans. I went to Jazz Fest New Orleans form 1997-2004. Lots and lots of fun.

TVC15

Last five:

GD Daves hawaii shows Jan 70
David Bowie station to station
David Bowie lodger
GD in progress: 5 6 81 dixpix
Talking Heads 77

and

David Bowie young americans

DMCVT. / 1960s box

DMCVT, I've been banging the drum for a 1960s box for years on this forum. so far no luck, but Ill keep banging that drum. I would also like to see a Frost Ampitheatre Box, 1982 & 1985 shows would make up the box. You were out here in the Bay Area in 1968, my brothers friends went and saw the Grateful Dead on 5/16/68 at the Santa Clara County Fairgrounds, they saw Hendrix there in 1969. Take it easy, have a nice day.

If any of ya'll want to see something cool....

....u toob phish Madison Square garden 4.22.22 Waves.

garden was all wet last…

garden was all wet last night!!!

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Good News KeithFan! Your order is on the way!

And they ain't talkin about the beer glasses.....this is the real deal...DaP 42.....Skeleton Skaters, Part Deux: Back On The Ice!

More 60s, please and thanks

Yes indeed, have banged that drum a few times myself along with others here, likely some of the older persuasion. Am OK with what seems emergent pattern for DaP to include a great 80s show or two, nothing against that though my prefs will always be the first decade. And for best audio possible, no cassette master please, just not enough tape there for fourth dimensional details. As far as parents and the short leash summer 1968 while in San Francisco, they held the car keys, I did not know what I was missing, they did not want to be missing me and their car. To be fair, tremendous latitude back home DC with the family car, cruised as far as MSG for Concert for Bangladesh, Ocean City MD for The Byrds.

You snooze, you lose

No vinyl for me today.
Not a problem since I already have it on CD.

But do you?

It's all over Discogs at the moment. Not from any UK sellers yet, but lots of U.S. outlets there.

Taping Stories

I got into taping in 1975 at a Pink Floyd concert at the Cow Palace in Daly City, Ca. I borrowed a roommate's portable Sony recorder. It didn't have volume settings, just auto-level, and a one-point stereo mic. Because the Floyd's sound was epic, my recording came out pretty good. It was fun playing back the show and listening to it again with my roommates.

I was hooked. I sought out a portable Sony with volume controls, and stereo jacks for two mics. The only one available at the time was a huge thing called the TC-152SD. You can google it. It was the size of a thick phone book. I think its size was due to it had a built-in speaker. I bought a Teac cardiod (directional) mic, and for a time only made mono recordings - that was all I could afford at the time.

That Sony deck was a challenge to smuggle into a show, I'll tell you. I put it in a back pack, dropped the straps down so the deck sat in what I hoped was the 'small of my back' and wore a huge puffy down jacket over it all. I got it into clubs ok where there wasn't much of a search. I started taping around 1978, taping Jerry Band, Roy Buchanan. I got it into Bill Graham events a couple times (the Kinks), mainly due to the search person being distracted by the person in front of me, not intentionally, just lucky. I looked really funny wearing that huge down jacket in the summer time!

This is one of my favorite…

This is one of my favorite shows. When they released 2/24, I had actually wished they'd picked this one instead. Better late than never.

With most of the recent Dave's Picks, though, there's already a great SBD in circulation. I wish they'd release some stuff that is not already available in high quality SBD.

He Shoots, He Scores!

Managed to snag a copy of the 4/8/72 vinyl AND the ABB's 'Cream of the Crop 2003' 3-lp RSD thingy. So I'm now about $200 poorer, but I got me some cool vinyls to spin later. Both releases are ebay and discogs, for anybody who missed out,

What's my secret? After standing in line for two hours last year and getting shut out, I found a different record store, one where the neighborhood is too scary for anybody to camp out overnight, and where their clientele is mostly young punk rockers who, I guessed, would be uninterested in the GOGD or ABB. Worked like a charm. Waltzed in their at noon, picked up the rekkids, and was outta there in 15 minutes. Booyah.

Last five:

GD: DiP 15 (disc one on the ride home)
Haydn symphonies, Szell/Cleveland (can't remember which, just good morning music tho)
John Coltrane: My Favorite Things
Bill Evans: Turn Out the Stars
TTB: Best of the Beacon

RSD

Didn't happen I just went to eBay. Of all of the RSD released 5/4/79 is my favorite I was always hoping it would get released as a CD just like 4/18/70 got both an LP & CD release.

Free Phil Lesh show

Phil and Friends will perform for free at the annual Stern Grove Festival in SF August 14.

May the 4 winds blow

RIP Rick Turner
Alembic godfather that was an important cog in the GD technical machine that changed R&R forever!
As a proud Alembic owner, thanks for all you did directly or indirectly that allowed me many years of joy being privileged to play such a fine instrument!

NITECAT 6/13/80: good job sir!
Look forward to enjoying others.
We’ll have to get a list so we can play more on Pick of the day with discussion as we did yesterday!
400, impressive indeed! What do the real estate folks say: “ location, location, location” lucky basted, you and Billy K and the rest of you Bay Area folks. Yes, totally jealous!

As we count down to 42. perhaps we shall quote Flounder this is gonna be greaaaatttt!

Hay Billy...

The Santa Clara Pop Fest '69 with Jimi closing the weekend...I have an ok boot of his set...guitar and band come through clearly but the vocals are muffled...five of us in a VW bug (we were a lot skinnier then) drove up the coast from LA to Big Sur for a couple of days and then on to the festival...did your Bro and his pals go to any other of the festival days?

Nitecat

Hello, Newman. I have a Floyd bootleg called crackers. I think it's a BL. Have you ever heard of this tape? I received it during a dead show at giants stadium. I traded a dead tape for it from a chick I met.

An observation

I've been busy downloading all of the Dark Star Orchestra shows. I've noticed (and have observed this with other bands).

You read the comments from the tapers and the audience, and they will talk about, "oh at this show the rain NEVER let up". Or, sorry about the recording,,,, the rain.

Now I know most of us can picture being at a show where it poured like a bitch for the whole show. And how miserable that can be.

But and a big but, you can't hear any talkers in the recordings. Like they left because they didn't come for the music and are NOT going to stand in the rain. So the tapes maybe a little hissy from the rain, but there is no goddamn talking!!!!

Now that's a plus!

nitecat, check your pm

Re: Roy Buchanan

"Is That a TC-152S in Your Backpack, . . .

. . . or Are You Just Glad to See Me?"

Haa! Great story Nitecat – and a hilarious image. Thanks! Keep 'em coming (both your posts and your AUDs)! Onward.

Carlo13

Have not heard of Floyd BL 'crackers'.

Crackers

Its listed on floydboots.com and discogs.

Simon

Cool. Thanks for the info. Yes, I'm lazy. Thanks nitecat also.

wasn't there a famous taper...

who would put on a phony leg cast and have friend push him in his wheelchair...the seat had a false bottom that held the tools...this was 70's stuff I believe...

Pink Floyd Crackers

This a a 2-cd set of Hollywood Bowl 9/22/72
Dark Side-Disc1
Careful, Echoes, Saucerful, Set The Controls-Disc 2.
I’ll have to track this down, looks good.
Listening to Billy Cobham Live Ayajala ‘78
The Magic Band tour Chicago 3/4/78.
Getting ready to cue up Dave’s 21-Boston Garden 4/2/73…getting ready in advance of ‘74 show, coming soon(I hope).

Music is the Best!!

All the 74 talk

I went to a swapmeet yesterday

Someone selling stickers

I got a bunch including a Wolf sticker (the image on Jerry's guitar...you know)

Listening to 5 25 74 today

Niiiiice

saw a bumpersticker two days ago "Bach Off"

re reCaptcha

on some show, Pigpen threatens to hogtie and throw out "Mr. Electrician Man" (I think that's what he says) because of ongoing phuqery with lights or the sound

I want to use that sentiment for the reCaptcha genius

I freakin' HATE that stuff

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