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One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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June 12, 2022 - 11:44am

#631

billy the kiddd

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My Doctor wrote a book.....

Since we were just talking about famous people and now we are talking about literature I will combine the two subjects. My doctor wrote the book The Kite Runner, once he wrote the book he no longer needed to be my doctor. He was a great guy and a great doctor.
June 12, 2022 - 11:25am

#632

daverock

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Letters - Barry Miles

"The Letters of William S. Burroughs 1944-1959" is a great book. In fact, I prefer it his novels. Less messing about, if you know what I mean.
And talking of Barry Miles - his "William Burroughs - A Life" is worth looking at, if you are interested in Burroughs. It seems a very truthful book - it doesn't always present Burroughs in the best light - which, considering what he did, isn't a bad thing.
Denis Johnson is a more recent American writer who is worth reading. His collection of short stories, "Jesus' Son" is a good starting point, chronicling his life of addiction and petty crime in the late 60's, I think. He thankfully transcended that lifestyle, though, and the last book he wrote before dying in 2017- the beautiful "The Largesse of The Sea Maiden" is exceptional.
Harry Crews is another hot one. " The Knock out Artist" about an ex boxer who retires and goes on to earn money by knocking himself out with a single punch to the face is a wild and windy ride.
June 12, 2022 - 10:57am

#633

hendrixfreak

Joined:
February 26, 2014

This forum is triggering my CD and book buying....

and that's not a complaint. Okay, I'll go for Carolyn Cassady's book and the 1926 Jack Black. So to this literature list I must add a few:

The Big Con: The Story of the Confidence Man by David W. Mauer (inside look from 1940 on how hustlers of every stripe fleeced their marks, from the late 1800s to 1940)

Lowlife: Lures and Snares of Old New York by Luc Sante (1991) More than you want to know about the underclass in NYC, from pimps and whores to rogue police to grog shop druggings/robbings. The goods.

Both are meticulously documented nonfiction. And if you have the stomach for the very nastiest fiction, try

Last Exit to Brooklyn by Hubert Selby Jr. (1957). Indescribable, the prose is tough as nails. Horrifying in parts, downright disgusting in others. Highly recommended....
June 12, 2022 - 10:14am

#634

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

We’ve got the beat

As I said, I spent a little time on the (beat) mountain.
As is often the case, On The Road was my gateway drug to the beats via the Dead! I’ve Read much of but not all Kerouac. And now have a bunch more “new” stuff I’ve not read yet. It’s been so many moons ago and my reading comprehension perhaps was not as good, so it might have been me, but a lot of Jacks writing can be tough. He unfortunately at times could really wallow in the mire. As the years passed, and the alcohol took hold, he wasn’t the same young enthusiastic Sal Paradise most know and love. But there are also so many fine writings! Just Gotta Poke Around!
My favs above and beyond OTR are: Dharma Bums, the parts of Desolation Angels that involves the former, and a book of short Stories called Lonesome Traveler. Gary Snyder is awesome, but alas I’m not much of a poetry guy : (
I have several bios, but have not read them all yet. Our boy McNally’s Desolate Angel is very good, Angel headed Hipster by Turner, Subterranean Kerouac by Amburn, The Awakener by Helen Weaver, Jacks Book by Gifford, and Memory Babe by Nicosia, which some consider THE JK book, but since it came to me late in life I have not read it yet. In fact so much stuff from and about Jack has come round in later years and unfortunately their just collecting dust since Ive been more inclined to read other things. I often get really deep into a topic, then move on. But hopefully some day I’ll get the beat bug again.
There are some good “letters” books too that give more insight to the actual people behind the characters and are interesting snap shots of life in mid century America.
Carolyn Cassady’s Off the Road is another excellent inside look, but from a much different perspective. along with Women of the Beat Generation by Knight.

The Holy Goof is good, but I think I liked The Cassady Issue of the great Spit In the Ocean series the best!
Mucho cool stuff in those Spit in the Ocean issues! The Fast Life of a Beat Hero I think is good? Cant remember but I have it so? The First Third is more about little Neal and the sometimes incredible, but often horrible, eye opening experiences of his youth than the Angel Headed Hipster he became. He always aspired to be a writer and having the big time writer friends he had, you could say things rubbed off on him. He also worked very hard on his writing, so it’s not as I say A book to judge by its author! Some of Jacks portraits of his own child hood are also some favorite JK writings. Again, interesting looks into sort of working class mid century American life.

As much as I dig psychedelic Neal 2.0 and all his influence on the scene and his Herculean feats with the pranksters et el, I prefer early beat Neal, Dean Moriarty, I think of Dean Moriarty…

It’s been so long etc, but I have read some Burroughs and Ginsberg etc, but I’ve never been a big poetry person, and Burroughs can be a bit too out there, but I loved reading a ton of Jack, and anything by or about Neal.
OTR and more so Dharma Bums literally changed my life in my twenties! Must Reads imho.
June 12, 2022 - 10:06am

#635

proudfoot

Joined:
August 2, 2020

Hearing 9/18/74 for the first time in a while

Mighty tasty

One of the first shows I ever heard on cassette back in the day

I called my friend and said "more Dead!"
June 12, 2022 - 9:40am

#636

nappyrags

Joined:
January 24, 2013

Oh...and another is...

"The Beat Hotel: Ginsberg, Burroughs & Corso in Paris, 1957-1963" by Barry Miles...had a blast reading this ...have his Zappa bio in storage somewhere....damn books....
June 12, 2022 - 9:35am

#637

nappyrags

Joined:
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before Neal Cassidy, before…

before Neal Cassidy, before Herbert Huncke, there was Jack Black who wrote "You Can't Win" published in 1926...his autobiography details his life as a petty criminal and dealing with "straight society"....
June 12, 2022 - 4:40am

#638

daverock

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The First Third etc

HF/Oro - that's good to know. I have read around "The First Third" in a way, without ever actually coming across the book itself. I have a copy of "The Collected Correspondence of Allen Ginsberg and Neal Cassady", here, that has letters in it between the two people from the 1940s-1960s. I will definitely dip into that again before the summer is done. And I read Carolyn Cassady's "Off The Road" when that came out some 30 years ago.

The best holiday of my life was in 1990 when we went on a tour of the West Coast-my one and only visit to America. We only spent two days in San Francisco, and spent the time alternately doing what me and my girlfriend chose to do. Us having little in common. As San Francisco meant more to me than it did her, I had first shout - and off to City Lights book shop we went. Among others, I got a biography of Neal called "The Holy Goof", by someone I had never heard of at the time and have never heard of since, called William Plummer. Like the other books I have just mentioned, I have never read it since, but I thought it was great at the time.

And when I got back home, there was a letter ( or maybe "Spiral Light", I forget) on my doorstep, telling me The Dead were playing Wembley that October. 1990 was like my 1960s.
June 11, 2022 - 9:12pm

#639

bluecrow

Joined:
September 21, 2015

way deep

Oro and HF - you are guys are so deep in the catalog. I'm amazed. Feeling out of the know for sure on works like the First Third. so yeah, way back in late high school it was On The Road, of course, that opened my mind. But out of that scene it was Gary Snyder (Dharma Bums, Japhy Ryder,) that ended up having the most profound affect. Still someone I turn to time and again. Riprap and Cold Mountain Poems is foundational (Migration of Birds!) and then there is the Smokey the Bear Sutra.

Ginsberg also, of course.
June 11, 2022 - 2:34pm

#640

Oroborous

Joined:
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I’m with HF

The First Third is mos def better than one might be inclined to assume. “Don’t let the glasses fool ya” oh, wait, that’s Bromberg, ahem, aaaa, how bout, don’t judge a book by its author!

John Perry Barlow

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One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

Record Store Day - Accomplished

Out of house at 5:15 AM, in line at 5:55. Doors opened at 7. Store did a great job of line control, was out of store by 8:15.

Once I get the Mama box of Europe LP's, I will have 6 of the 22 Europe shows on vinyl! Yeah!?!

There's only 6 that's been released, right?

One more thing Nitecat. . .

Hey Nitecat, It would be extremely cool if you could tell us more about your taping days: recording rig, adventures at venues, taping before and after there was a tapers' section, etc. Tapers' tales are always fascinating, but there just aren't enough of them. Nudge, nudge. . . Still wandering through the 13 of your shows I found on the Archive, for which an ongoing THANK YOU! for sharing. Bravissimo!

BTW: I just realized that your auds from 10/10/80 & 10/11/80 got mislabeled/misfiled on the Archive as 10/10/89 & 10/11/89. I wondered about the gap between '80 and '89 in you taping efforts, and was surprised that your taping equipment was the same after nine years. That 'splains it. Onward

Six and a bit

Dennis - the Dark Star from Paris 5/4/72 was issued on vinyl on RSD about 10 years ago too.

Dave and the Dark Star Album

I assume they will release that whole show,,,, I also assume they will release ALL of E72 on vinyl. This will make a nice compliment to the steamer trunk,,,, to have the whole run on cd AND vinyl.

WOW,,,, I shutter at the ebay price!

Sold out prediction

I do have a side hustle as a soothsayer

Daves 44 will be 2 17 79 and 4 22 79 combo as billy calls for

Daves 43...I sense an 84

E72 on vinyl

Dennis - It would be good if they do - but they need to make them available to buy in Blighty for me to splash out.

Shipping notice received

Tracking not yet available.
I expect delivery next Friday or Saturday based on past timetables.

Local record shop opened at 8, I got out of bed at 10, just had breakfast, now starting my first cup of coffee.
I’ll probably get to the record shop around 12:15.
Will there be a copy for me? I’ll let you know later.

Nitecat’s shows

They’re all on Losslesslegs too, under Wiseman.
I grabbed 6-13,14-80 so far but haven’t listened yet.

Thanks Nitecat.

Nite Cat

Seattle...very nice pull indeed!

Again, thanks so much!!!

@ Carlo - guessing Mark Pinkus or Phil gets numero uno

Dave is always displaying the one he gets in the mail on twitter - from what I recall it's always in the middle or back of the pack. That might be his playing edition, but I like him at the helm. My guess is Pinkus gets numero uno, maybe they save #1 for the GD Museum.

My best digits was #75 for DaP12 and #26 for St Louis Box. My triple digits are DaP38, RFK '89 and 1st Spring 1990. The rest are four or five digits. I typically order within an hour when new product or subscription announced, but been doing subscription from year 2.

Was bummed that my 30Trips was so far down the numerical list since I ordered it in 1st five minutes, but then again, once it's taken out of shrinkwrap its value diminishes drastically.

Thanks, Nitecat!

Belatedly and haven't got there yet, but do look forward to listening. Much appreciation for that... also like to hear a recording adventure story or 3 back in the day. My audio geekdom aside, any details about process too. Gary might have been confused, twas me who wrote I stopped going to Dead shows in 1980. Not that I don't look back with regret on that, it was partly their scene changing and my full dive into jazz. 1980 moved deep into mountains of Vermont, half way off the grid, organic, back to the land adventures previously begun in Maine. Just a few random east coast shows after that for quite a while. Never music on the west coast, huge void there. Out in San Francisco summer 1968, 16, but with parents, kibosh on possible Santana and Dead (Fillmore and/or Shrine) shows, arrghh. Billy The Kidd, thanks for banging the drum on a 60s box, Rhino must have heard almost enough by now, just put 5-6 concerts together, 12-15 discs or so, bingo, 10K sell out. Last Beer: Lagunitas The Waldos. Last music, Rory Block, various.

Trade?

Hey All,

I've been waiting for this notification to arrive in my inbox... Not seeing it, I checked and had an oh-crap moment and realized that I somehow failed to order a subscription this year. Could have sworn I had ordered it, but then again I'm the same dummy that accidentally ordered 2 subscriptions for 2020 (forgetting that I'd already ordered one).

So, would love to connect with anyone who would be interested in trading their 2022 CD's (unopened would be great, but opened is fine as long as they're not scratched or damaged) for my unopened copies of the 2020 series (33-36). Please message me here, or at brewbat2 at yahoo dot com. Thanks y'all!

RSD 2022 success

Just got back from a casual stroll into Newbury Comics and despite my horror at finding a gaping hole in the Gs of their display, a clerk happily told me they had a bunch, but due to their size, couldn't display them all, so he pulled out about 5 copies and handed me one. Inquired on the Ramones box and they had only gotten one copy, so not needing anything else, I departed 155 bucks lighter, but with 5LPs of the show where the Dead really started their storming of Europe. The first night is okay, but this show has long seen Most Highly Favored Status along with a handful of others from Europe (4/26, 5/3, 5/7, 5/26). A welcome addition to the collection. Look forward to listening, not sure I'll do a straight through like I did 5/3 this time last year...

DMCVT

Thanks for the correction. I thought when I posted Maine 1980 that I might have mixed two for one.

I can understand the deep jazz dive. I am a lover of all kinds of music.

Several months back there was discussion of the most quiet moment experienced in a live setting. Absolutely a brilliant Morning Dew can have that quiet chills moment. In the early 1990's, I saw Itzhak Perlman with the local symphony orchestra. He was so impressive, walking across the stage with his polio crutches. He then put on an hour show that was incredible. He had a moment where the whole hall hung on this incredibly quiet passage. He gave his all. Sweating profusely. He barely had the energy to walk off of the stage. One of my highlights of seeing music that goes back for me to 1972.

As far as Jazz saw Dizzy Gillespie fried on white lightning at the Blue Note in Greenwich (ooops edit) Village. Have seen him 3 times, 2 in NYC and once in my home town. Have seen Preservation Hall Jazz band numerous times, locally and in New Orleans. I went to Jazz Fest New Orleans form 1997-2004. Lots and lots of fun.

TVC15

Last five:

GD Daves hawaii shows Jan 70
David Bowie station to station
David Bowie lodger
GD in progress: 5 6 81 dixpix
Talking Heads 77

and

David Bowie young americans

DMCVT. / 1960s box

DMCVT, I've been banging the drum for a 1960s box for years on this forum. so far no luck, but Ill keep banging that drum. I would also like to see a Frost Ampitheatre Box, 1982 & 1985 shows would make up the box. You were out here in the Bay Area in 1968, my brothers friends went and saw the Grateful Dead on 5/16/68 at the Santa Clara County Fairgrounds, they saw Hendrix there in 1969. Take it easy, have a nice day.

If any of ya'll want to see something cool....

....u toob phish Madison Square garden 4.22.22 Waves.

garden was all wet last…

garden was all wet last night!!!

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Good News KeithFan! Your order is on the way!

And they ain't talkin about the beer glasses.....this is the real deal...DaP 42.....Skeleton Skaters, Part Deux: Back On The Ice!

More 60s, please and thanks

Yes indeed, have banged that drum a few times myself along with others here, likely some of the older persuasion. Am OK with what seems emergent pattern for DaP to include a great 80s show or two, nothing against that though my prefs will always be the first decade. And for best audio possible, no cassette master please, just not enough tape there for fourth dimensional details. As far as parents and the short leash summer 1968 while in San Francisco, they held the car keys, I did not know what I was missing, they did not want to be missing me and their car. To be fair, tremendous latitude back home DC with the family car, cruised as far as MSG for Concert for Bangladesh, Ocean City MD for The Byrds.

You snooze, you lose

No vinyl for me today.
Not a problem since I already have it on CD.

But do you?

It's all over Discogs at the moment. Not from any UK sellers yet, but lots of U.S. outlets there.

Taping Stories

I got into taping in 1975 at a Pink Floyd concert at the Cow Palace in Daly City, Ca. I borrowed a roommate's portable Sony recorder. It didn't have volume settings, just auto-level, and a one-point stereo mic. Because the Floyd's sound was epic, my recording came out pretty good. It was fun playing back the show and listening to it again with my roommates.

I was hooked. I sought out a portable Sony with volume controls, and stereo jacks for two mics. The only one available at the time was a huge thing called the TC-152SD. You can google it. It was the size of a thick phone book. I think its size was due to it had a built-in speaker. I bought a Teac cardiod (directional) mic, and for a time only made mono recordings - that was all I could afford at the time.

That Sony deck was a challenge to smuggle into a show, I'll tell you. I put it in a back pack, dropped the straps down so the deck sat in what I hoped was the 'small of my back' and wore a huge puffy down jacket over it all. I got it into clubs ok where there wasn't much of a search. I started taping around 1978, taping Jerry Band, Roy Buchanan. I got it into Bill Graham events a couple times (the Kinks), mainly due to the search person being distracted by the person in front of me, not intentionally, just lucky. I looked really funny wearing that huge down jacket in the summer time!

This is one of my favorite…

This is one of my favorite shows. When they released 2/24, I had actually wished they'd picked this one instead. Better late than never.

With most of the recent Dave's Picks, though, there's already a great SBD in circulation. I wish they'd release some stuff that is not already available in high quality SBD.

He Shoots, He Scores!

Managed to snag a copy of the 4/8/72 vinyl AND the ABB's 'Cream of the Crop 2003' 3-lp RSD thingy. So I'm now about $200 poorer, but I got me some cool vinyls to spin later. Both releases are ebay and discogs, for anybody who missed out,

What's my secret? After standing in line for two hours last year and getting shut out, I found a different record store, one where the neighborhood is too scary for anybody to camp out overnight, and where their clientele is mostly young punk rockers who, I guessed, would be uninterested in the GOGD or ABB. Worked like a charm. Waltzed in their at noon, picked up the rekkids, and was outta there in 15 minutes. Booyah.

Last five:

GD: DiP 15 (disc one on the ride home)
Haydn symphonies, Szell/Cleveland (can't remember which, just good morning music tho)
John Coltrane: My Favorite Things
Bill Evans: Turn Out the Stars
TTB: Best of the Beacon

RSD

Didn't happen I just went to eBay. Of all of the RSD released 5/4/79 is my favorite I was always hoping it would get released as a CD just like 4/18/70 got both an LP & CD release.

Free Phil Lesh show

Phil and Friends will perform for free at the annual Stern Grove Festival in SF August 14.

May the 4 winds blow

RIP Rick Turner
Alembic godfather that was an important cog in the GD technical machine that changed R&R forever!
As a proud Alembic owner, thanks for all you did directly or indirectly that allowed me many years of joy being privileged to play such a fine instrument!

NITECAT 6/13/80: good job sir!
Look forward to enjoying others.
We’ll have to get a list so we can play more on Pick of the day with discussion as we did yesterday!
400, impressive indeed! What do the real estate folks say: “ location, location, location” lucky basted, you and Billy K and the rest of you Bay Area folks. Yes, totally jealous!

As we count down to 42. perhaps we shall quote Flounder this is gonna be greaaaatttt!

Hay Billy...

The Santa Clara Pop Fest '69 with Jimi closing the weekend...I have an ok boot of his set...guitar and band come through clearly but the vocals are muffled...five of us in a VW bug (we were a lot skinnier then) drove up the coast from LA to Big Sur for a couple of days and then on to the festival...did your Bro and his pals go to any other of the festival days?

Nitecat

Hello, Newman. I have a Floyd bootleg called crackers. I think it's a BL. Have you ever heard of this tape? I received it during a dead show at giants stadium. I traded a dead tape for it from a chick I met.

An observation

I've been busy downloading all of the Dark Star Orchestra shows. I've noticed (and have observed this with other bands).

You read the comments from the tapers and the audience, and they will talk about, "oh at this show the rain NEVER let up". Or, sorry about the recording,,,, the rain.

Now I know most of us can picture being at a show where it poured like a bitch for the whole show. And how miserable that can be.

But and a big but, you can't hear any talkers in the recordings. Like they left because they didn't come for the music and are NOT going to stand in the rain. So the tapes maybe a little hissy from the rain, but there is no goddamn talking!!!!

Now that's a plus!

nitecat, check your pm

Re: Roy Buchanan

"Is That a TC-152S in Your Backpack, . . .

. . . or Are You Just Glad to See Me?"

Haa! Great story Nitecat – and a hilarious image. Thanks! Keep 'em coming (both your posts and your AUDs)! Onward.

Carlo13

Have not heard of Floyd BL 'crackers'.

Crackers

Its listed on floydboots.com and discogs.

Simon

Cool. Thanks for the info. Yes, I'm lazy. Thanks nitecat also.

wasn't there a famous taper...

who would put on a phony leg cast and have friend push him in his wheelchair...the seat had a false bottom that held the tools...this was 70's stuff I believe...

Pink Floyd Crackers

This a a 2-cd set of Hollywood Bowl 9/22/72
Dark Side-Disc1
Careful, Echoes, Saucerful, Set The Controls-Disc 2.
I’ll have to track this down, looks good.
Listening to Billy Cobham Live Ayajala ‘78
The Magic Band tour Chicago 3/4/78.
Getting ready to cue up Dave’s 21-Boston Garden 4/2/73…getting ready in advance of ‘74 show, coming soon(I hope).

Music is the Best!!

All the 74 talk

I went to a swapmeet yesterday

Someone selling stickers

I got a bunch including a Wolf sticker (the image on Jerry's guitar...you know)

Listening to 5 25 74 today

Niiiiice

saw a bumpersticker two days ago "Bach Off"

re reCaptcha

on some show, Pigpen threatens to hogtie and throw out "Mr. Electrician Man" (I think that's what he says) because of ongoing phuqery with lights or the sound

I want to use that sentiment for the reCaptcha genius

I freakin' HATE that stuff

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