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    One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

    First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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  • #281
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    First off, welcome back Dennis! I totally understand on the Charles Lloyd set. I did pick
    up the first “trio” CD (the one with Frisell), but haven’t had a chance to play it yet. Expectations are high. I don’t think the vinyl box set is limited issue (I don’t think), so no rush to get it yet. I didn’t realize until yesterday that Lloyd & Frisell played the Ottawa Jazz Festival this past weekend, which is only a 4 hour car hike from here, and would have been a great weekend trip for the wife and I. Like the Toronto Maple Leafs - next time(sorry for the hockey talk Dennis). PS - I have some albums by the “other” Bill Evans, the sax player (he has played with Hornsby) - he is a decent player. Tell me your impressions of the Miles album when you can.

    Sixtus/Oro - I was thinking another way to approach this “Which Artists” to listen to for piano jazz, since the lists everyone provided were really great, but perhaps overwhelming, is to approach it more organically, ie - the kneebone is connected to the shinbone etc. Start with a jazz artist you perhaps know, and see what side players he or she plays with. Who contributes to their sound? Or labels. Blue Note, a great jazz label for generations is a great one to start with. A great many recordings in the 50s & 60s on that label were produced by Rudy Van Gelder. Like all Producers, he had “go to” musicians he would call into the studio to back an artist. Tony Williams, drummer, is making a solo album, Van Gelder may call on a young Herbie Hancock, or Wayne Shorter, Joe Henderson etc. Next, Shorter is making an album, who backs him up? How about all the truly remarkable musicians Miles Davis worked with? Four of them became star keyboard players in their own right: Jarrett, Corea, Hancock, and Zawinul (who had a budding career with Cannonball Adderley).
    I always found in music in general, and jazz in particular, the kneebone is connected to the shinbone; you like “this”, you’ll definitely like “that”.

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    1st show and jingles

    I have an LP of Winston cigarette ads that were played on the radio. My father got this from somewhere, I was maybe 16. Still have.

  • #283
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    Don't forget Jeff Chimenti,,, who I think is better than Keith.

    Some mentioned Bill Evans piano player.

    I just got in my vinyl copy of Miles Davis Live - What it Is - Montreal 7/7/83. Reading the back cover and there is Bill Evans, only he's playing saxes and flutes. So I looked it up,,, it said this.....

    This double LP release features one of Miles Davis' final great bands: John Scofield on guitar, Bill “The Other Bill Evans” Evans on saxophones, flute and electric piano, Darryl Jones on bass, Al Foster on drums, and percussionist Mino Cinelu.

    So there are two Bills. I think one must have a goatee and be from the evil universe!

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    Can't talk piano players without mentioning Keith Godchaux, at one time one of the greatest piano players 9n Earth.

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    We have the same blessing/curse of remembering esoteric things like jingles. Every cigarette, beer, cereal, appliance, and car ad had a jingle. Now they just steal a song we all liked and now can't stand as they've ruined it for us. Really, "Everybody Damp Rid"? Or "All Right Now" for a drug I don't need? One of the favorite games my wife and I play is to jam together songs and jingles that have nothing to do with each other. You start with Red Red Robin and end up at the Woody Woodpecker theme then Diamonds Are a Girl's Best Friend or the Dick Van Dyke show. Likely because we can't remember the whole thing anyway. I think the advertisers in the 60's had evil intentions for our little spongy brains. I'm the youngest of three and the back seat of the car was where I might subject my sisters to hours long renditions of This Old Man. "Mom, make him stop!" Unfortunately an earworm can really screw up my day even now. So the cure is to just have music on all the time. Music is the best.
    Cheers

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    Only gone for 4 days I come back to 17 pages of "stuff"! (ok, once I stripped away hockey it was only a half page :-) )

    Too much to cover or comment on,,,,, but I try a little.

    That Mike - Chuck Lloyd, thanks for the heads up. Chuckie will be on back burner for now. 600 bucks for the 24 albums and a box set yet to come?!?! My wife's wallet does have limits!

    Springsteen,,,, ok I'm from Jersey, past that, Bruce appeared in my life at the right time I guess. His songs always speak to me of hope and the struggles of the working stiff.

    Disco - I was big on the disco ball. Back in the late seventies with Frankie Crocker on WBLS,,,, stereo in black. I believe you'd find a lot of recording technics came out of the that disco vein.

    Couple of unmentioned disco headphone songs,,,, Peter Brown - Do You Want to Get Funky with Me. CJ & Co - The Devil's Gun, or Santa Esmeralda - Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood. GREAT, GREAT album of day and GREAT GREAT headphone album,,,, Dr Buzzard's Original Savannah Band!!!!

    Zappa,,, I keep buying his "stuff", I like a chunk, a chunk can be tedious. Sometimes GREAT ability does not translate to enjoyable. If you're a musician maybe you can be awed by technical, but if you're an idiot like me you can't tell he just played an augmented Major G in a diminished F. Also the twice I caught Frank he seemed to think he was doing you a favor by playing and you should be thankful he did!

    Jazz piano,,,, you read the list people posted and you like, oh yeah, him. I like when some said don't forget tatum and liberace. On the Oscar front, my buddy is a huge fan. Caught him whenever he played. He had an album called something like "for my friends". He had this one cut where he was playing song "a". Right hand carried the melody and left belting out rhythm. All of sudden left hand started playing a different song , "B". So now he's playing two songs at the same time. Notes from song "A" start walking down to the bass end, while song "B" starts walking to high end. The two hands cross each other while jamming out and poof, back to one song "A". I was wowed to say the least! :-)

    Charlie 3 - Ipanema (great tune). I used to go to this restaurant/coffee house/bar. They would have bands, small venue 20-30 people listening to this group. They started playing Ipanema and out of this crowd comes this woman steps up to the mike and starts sing the lyrics in Portuguese and she sounds exactly like the origial! Song ended and she went back and sat down. Blew the room away and I think the band!

    Mr Ones,,,, I pretty sure I have the motown hippo stuff

    Finally an incredible flash-back moment. Sorting thru the latest treasure trove of music I've recently received I stumbled across Miriam Makeba,,, name meant nothing to me. Wiki said she was the voice of Africa (or something like that). Sorted and filed all. I always listened to pieces of what I add to my collection so I have some idea of what's what. So it looked like a cut "pata pata" was her big hit. I put it on and my head exploded. I knew the song, but had not thought about it since it came out. I mean I had not THOUGHT at all about it, which is odd for me since I have almost every tune I know running thought my head at all time. Even the childhood ones I learned in 1st grade!! I don't think a month goes by when I don't find myself singing the Erie Canal! Trust me I've never navigated on it, but sing about once a month. :-) Commerical jingles always run though me,,,,, remember this one,,,, My beer is Reingold the dry beer, think of Reingold whenever you buy beer. It's refreshing, not sweet, it's the extra dry drink. Would try extra dry Reingold beer?

    Like Monk,,, it's a blessing,,,,,,,, and a curse! (mostly for the people that have to listen to me sing them :-) )

    Sorry for the ramble, but you did leave me 17 pages to comment on! (but no hockey comments thankfully)

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    Amazing piano solo on David Bowie's "Alladdin Sane". Decades ago, a mate of mine wrote to Mike Garson, asking for a transcription of the solo. Incredibly he got a reply. Not a transcription, though. If I remember rightly, Garson said he couldn't transcribe it if he tried. Hats off to him for replying though.

    Practising 4 hours a day for 15 years on any instrument is cheating. As the man said, we could all be good if we did that.

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    I'll go with the old school: Albert Ammons, Duke Ellington, Count Basie, Willie "the Lion" Smith, Fats Waller.

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One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

Sorry lads but I believe the complete tapes are not there.
Supposedly much was chopped up for Skull Fuck?
I think that’s why they did Ladies and Gentlemen: used best of what they had?
But!
A) I could be confused and thus completely wrong, and
B) we don’t know what other sources may exist?
Or do we? Someone out there surly knows more about this?

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Submitted by nitecat on Mon, 04/25/2022 - 13:06

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...and still not sold out! I just finished listening to each show, so this is my first pass. Took a while. I gotta say, disc 20 is a stand out. That's the third disc of the second 1973 show in the box. Course you guys already know that. Dark Star>Stella Blue>Eyes>Weather Report Suite! Sweet is right! I listened to this disc three times over three morning's breakfast, and it will bear re-listening for years to come! Multiple breath-taking jams, one after another.

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Submitted by adedhed68 on Mon, 04/25/2022 - 13:13

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Some got a shipping notice late last week. A lot of others are still waiting for one…..

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Mon, 04/25/2022 - 13:52

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he has said in interviews that they have put out all they intend to on the April '71 FE shows.

That leaves a ton of great shows in March-April '71 for a '71 box.

I am just one show shy of hearing the whole St Louis box. Then I'm going back to the second of two '71 shows in that box and CRANKING IT.

Hey, gents, ain't Nitecat The Man?? Thanks to the tapers...

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Submitted by wissinomingdeadhead on Mon, 04/25/2022 - 17:12

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But I just gotta say 4/22/77 is INCREDIBLE it's been awhile (years) since I listened to this let me add that I've never heard a SB recording until today man oh man does this show SMOKE!!!!!!

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Submitted by nitecat on Mon, 04/25/2022 - 18:02

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Received. Time to listen to other Dead eras so my ears are relatively fresh for 1974 when the Dave's arrives.

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Submitted by wissinomingdeadhead on Mon, 04/25/2022 - 18:26

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For going to '77 when '74 is in the limelight. I just discovered a SB recording of 4/22/77& man it sounds gorgeous.

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Submitted by nappyrags on Mon, 04/25/2022 - 19:48

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I don't put much stock in shipping notices...In the past I have received product before receiving a shipping notice and at times I waited two weeks after getting one

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Mon, 04/25/2022 - 20:21

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Gotta love the dove.
Wissinoming going in head first. Love it.
Posting my tie-dyed Easter eggs avatar. Because I can.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Mon, 04/25/2022 - 21:01

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Ship of Fools. 15’ from the stage that night. Flying high. Felt like an Alice D, million dollars.

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Submitted by billy the kiddd on Tue, 04/26/2022 - 10:54

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Another great show, from a historic run of shows. Big Boss Man, Warf Rat , and Mama Tried, all appear on Skull & Roses from this show. Duane Allman sits in with the Dead. My favorite version of Good Lovin.

Good Lovin'

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And a first set Dark Star into Wharf Rat

Wharf Rat is on Skull n Roses

Way back in 2001
Phil n Friends played east of Seattle
In the parking lot before the show I had some electric juice
As I sat there, suddenly China Rider from 4 26 71 came on

Yowzah yowzah yowzah

No electric juice since then

Great show by PnF

I wonder if the fact that Duane Allman and the Beach Boys guested means that the full run is less likely to be released. Although I think maybe one of the tracks featuring Duane came out on an Allman Brothers compilation a while back.

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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Tue, 04/26/2022 - 13:50

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Drive by Truckers in a few days, same venue either day before or after is Jason Isbell and the 400 unit. Jason Isbell is with EmmyLou Harris and others. DBT with Mavis Staples and others.

Saw DBT so many times in a small clubs around here, that was when Jason was with them.

For me, also Widespread X3 and Dave Matthews 1 show coming up. Plus Primus this weekend.

May even get my country music bangor and clangor on with many artists heading this way. Trying to make up my mind on seeing Vince Gill. Probably not Brooks and Dunn or the Judds. Live music budget has to be worked out.

Waiting impatiently Dave. J/K no complaints here. Operations have made substantial upgrades in the last 2 years.

G

Also in cue possiblities are :

America
Joe Satriani
Black Crowes
Kenny Chesney
Skynyrd
are possibilities

In less consideration
Dierks Bentley
Styx and REO
My Morning Jacket

Music seen booming here.

Revised and edited.

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Submitted by That Mike on Tue, 04/26/2022 - 14:49

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That’s great you saw the Truckers when Isbell was in the band, quite a line up then with his wife on bass. I think they are a kick ass band, and I’m looking forward to their new record in June. As for Emmylou, I think she still has the greatest voice in her field, and I’d never pass on a chance to see her play.
I was scouring the upcoming shows today, and you’re right, a lot to choose from being summer touring season, but budgeting for it is another matter.
Ordered the “new” Fabulous Furry Freak Bros hardcover today, one of a series of four in the series. Those comix never get old!

Thinking of Beach Boys, every so often I go back over to the tube to watch an old clip of the Beach Boys backing Chicago on their song "Wishing You Were Here." It is such a great performance especially vocally. Think it is NYE 1974. Trying to remember when Dick Clark started his NYE specials.

FYI, the remastered Chicago first couple of releases are mu-nay.

Nappy! Thanks for wheelchair taper post/lync. Lots of interesting stuff there.

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Submitted by adedhed68 on Tue, 04/26/2022 - 16:58

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Notice received. Now the wait!

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Submitted by wissinomingdeadhead on Wed, 04/27/2022 - 00:37

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A year of 2 sounds, pre 8/4/79-post 8/4/79 the difference being the sound of the Tiger & YES Fall '79 is my favorite era AFTER Fall '72 speaking of Fall 72 check out 10/28/72 the only thing I can say is WOW!!!!!!

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Submitted by Born Cross Eye… on Wed, 04/27/2022 - 03:31

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On April 26 2022.
My own idea of the estimated arrival date - is just before Billy's Birthday. Any time after that, excluding Sunday, May 8th, *talk cute* to the USPS Inspectors.

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Submitted by That Mike on Wed, 04/27/2022 - 03:35

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Auston Matthews is the first US born player to reach 60 goals in an NHL season! I’ve said this before, I grew up with this game, and he is one of the best I’ve ever seen.
Now, how about bringing that Stanley Cup back to Toronto, AM….

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Submitted by PT Barnum on Wed, 04/27/2022 - 06:31

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Orchestra to play shows in Europe to celebrate the E72 tour this September. The band will have Alligator being played by Jeff Matheson. Anybody over across the pond planning on going to any of these shows? I'm sure they will be epic.
Jeff channels Jerry very well, can only imagine the sounds he will get out of Gator.

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Submitted by Angry Jack Straw on Wed, 04/27/2022 - 06:35

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Vguy - sorry about your boys. I told you last year that trading Alex Tuch was a horrible decision. At least now he can go golfing with some of his former teammates.

Mike - good luck to the Leafs. We all know the outcome, but I’ll back them. Other than Toronto I find almost all the playoff teams in the East unlikable.

Colorado is the team to beat. Nevertheless, I still want Canadaland to win a Cup. I’ll take the Oilers in the west and the Leafs in the east.

Good luck to some.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 04/27/2022 - 06:41

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Definitely worth seeing.. Jeff can shred. He can't quite sing like Jerry, but he can play. If/when I venture across the pond again, I would really like to see some of those venues.

As for hockey and sports in general.. yea, the ups and downs of winning and losing. It's only a matter of time until you are on the losing end of playoffs and championships...

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Submitted by Douglas Otto on Wed, 04/27/2022 - 07:46

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Love getting the shipping notice email but hate that it doesn’t move for a week. Wish when you buy the “early bird” subscription that you can upgrade the shipping. I’m okay with paying more knowing the USPS isn’t involved. Play dead!

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Submitted by adedhed68 on Wed, 04/27/2022 - 08:43

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I’m not even going to bother checking tracking, it’ll just make me nuts, but has anybody’s Cds started moving? It would be nice to hear some good news……

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Submitted by Colin Gould on Wed, 04/27/2022 - 09:30

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RIP Klaus Schulze.
Saw TD in 1978, at least I saw the laser show and the banks of synths. I expect there were people behind them.

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Submitted by rasta5ziggy on Wed, 04/27/2022 - 09:42

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sorry to burst anybody's nitrous bubble, but I would rather play any DaP then listen to DSO, D & C, Wolfpack or any other GD cover band. Local band around here called Hyrider and they are all the same: marginal, terrible garage bands. Unimaginative, boring, and lame.
Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.

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Submitted by That Mike on Wed, 04/27/2022 - 10:07

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Jack - You’re right, the Leafs have as much chance of winning it all as Herb Tarlek did getting Lonnie Anderson’s Jennifer character to go out with him, but dim hope is better than none. I think Tampa Bay is still the team to beat, with Florida and Colorado in the running.
I’ve received my shipping notice for DaP 42 a few days ago, but based on the “low octane”postal service in these parts, I’m thinking the first round of playoffs will be over by the time it arrives.

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Submitted by daverock on Wed, 04/27/2022 - 10:50

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I'd have gone to see DSO in pre covid times. See what they are like. I saw Live Dead 69 with Tom Constanten about 3 years ago, and Terrapin Truckin with Phil Lesh about 2014, I think. Obviously neither band could hold a candle to The Dead, but it was a night out with people who were into the Gratefuls, serenaded by a Grateful Dead type sound. I saw Jerry on stage at the LiveDead69 gig - his ghost, anyway. As soon as my brain registered it, he disappeared. All good harmless fun.

Sorry to read about Klaus Schulze. I may be wrong, but I think he only played on one Tangerine Dream album - the synth free first one "Electronic Meditation". Music of the Gods - it reminds me of Ummagumma a bit. Highly recommended if you haven't heard it and like pre Dark Side Pink Floyd. Klaus Schulze plays drums on it.

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Submitted by stillwaters on Wed, 04/27/2022 - 11:14

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I would also like to announce I am in the middle of a deep dive in May '77. Listening to every show during the month and am having a great time! Currently on 5/19 (Dick's Picks 29.)

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Submitted by itsburnsy on Wed, 04/27/2022 - 11:25

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New Jerry release just announced, 1974, oh yeah.

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