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    One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

    First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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  • daverock
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    Venus on the Half Shelf ( great title)

    Apart from that one, the only PJF I have are "To Your Scattered Bodies Go" and "The Lovers". I can't honestly remember what were like now, but I would have enjoyed them at the time.
    To me the science fiction I liked - mainly written between about 1960 and 1980, occupies the same space as psychedelic singles from the 60's - and the music of early Pink Floyd, Hawkwind and all the great German bands of that era. They seemed to reflect the way I saw the world back in my teens and 20's. We all move on of course, and I wouldn't want to exist on a diet on nothing but those genres now. But I still like dipping back in now and again.

    My copy of "And Then There Was None" was published under it's original title in 1970. And you wouldn't believe what was on the cover.

  • Colin Gould
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    Yes, many older stories are less readable when you notice the sexism and racism inherent in them. The past certainly is different country. Women tend to be either missing from earlier SF or they are there as sex objects. I have to be able to disconnect my annoyance when reading early HG Wells stories. I can no longer read H Rider Haggard and the casual racist slurs in Agatha Christie stories are very noticeable, not to mention the original title (in the UK) of ‘And then there were none’. I haven’t bought any recent editions of ‘Tom Sawyer’ or ‘Huckleberry Finn’. Have they been edited out of all recognition? Having said this I would much rather read the books as originally written than have them edited so they don’t offend my modern sensibilities. Don’t ban books it would be better to discuss and examine why they were written as they were.

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    Yes, I enjoyed the Riverworld series but that was when I was 16, I'm not so sure at 62. Might give them a go though. I like big American novels these days Richard Ford, Philip Roth and that sort of thing, any suggestions?
    Colin yes, Bluebeard by Kurt Vonnegut (the painter novel) is very funny, highly recommended.

    Last 5
    Mingus Ah Um
    Mark Hollis-S/T
    Veedon Fleece-Van Morrison (I like this so much that I try not to play it too much, to keep it fresh)
    JS Bach St Matthew Passion-John Eliot Gardiner (Ebarme Dich mein Gott is painfully beautiful)
    Dylan-Blonde on Blonde( there's a decent single album in this, I find the whole thing a bit pedestrian nowadays)

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    Yes, I’ve read a fair number of Philip Jose Farmer’s books over the years. My favourite is ‘The Unreasoning Mask’ (The Bolg kills all but one). Both the Riverworld and The World of Tiers series are good and I liked his Kurt Vonnegut homage, writing ‘Venus on the half shell’ as Kilgore Trout.
    Having mentioned Vonnegut I particularly enjoyed one of his later books where one of the protagonists was a world famous abstract expressionist painter until, having used the wrong paint, all his paintings ended up having flaked off the canvas and covered the gallery floors.

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    Everyone here has an appreciation of music....

    ....primary reason why I'm here.
    Last Five.
    Duran Duran - Notorious
    Tedeschi Trucks Band - Crescent. Twice.
    Sabaton - Heroes
    Phish - 6.3.22 Deer Creek
    I would be lost without my tunes. Especially in these trying times.
    Btw. I am so tired of thoughts and prayers. Only goes so far.
    Rock on. And take care of yourselves and your friends and family.
    Eating Chinese takeout. Sesame beef kicks ass.
    Thanks btw fam, for reminding me to bust open a Philip K Dick book.
    Any Philip Jose Farmer fans out there??
    Phil's are cool.

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    I picked up this 2003 Summer Get Away Box Set at a Rex Foundation Benefit Auction. Previous owner: Cameron Sears, his name is printed on the bag. I've listened to a few discs, I did enjoy Joan Osborne and also the jams with Stevie Winwood. Have to get back into that box.

    I'm singing the praise of the 76 box again, this time Boston 6/11/76! Cool stand-alone Scarlet Begonias, beautiful Eyes.

    Hmm, I'm going to have to get my hands on some PKD, I've heard good things before, time to check him out.

    Music soothes the soul.

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    Sheik Yer Bones - thanks very much for that offer - unfortunately I am way behind the rest of the world when it comes to utilising online facilities - so I haven't used mediatheque. Also, I do like books in themselves, as objects. Those PKD books you mention are all great - The Martian Timeslip comes to mind as another great one. Among many.
    The mid 70's was a great time to see Gong. The first time I saw them was early in 1974 - it was like stepping into an alternate reality walking into the Free Trade Hall in Manchester and hearing ( and seeing) their set unfold. Truly magical. That 2032 album is really good, too. I saw them just after that came out, and Steve Hillage and Miquette Giraudy, from the classic mid 70s band, were in the group. Plus they played a set based on their 70's recordings before Gong came on. Cosmic.

    Nick-I started reading science fiction in the mid 70s too-the so called New Wave writers mainly - everyone from Brain Aldiss to Roger Zelazny. Philip K. Dick was the one though. I have still got loads of old paperbacks from that era - tiny print by today' standards. Either that or my eyes are going. A Scanner Darkly is memorably sad -in fact it's one of the few I haven't re- read. I remember it very clearly, even after all these years. Its barely science fiction - in fact it's one of the most realistic novels I have ever read on the subject of substance assisted burn out. Chilling. The others don't strike me as being particularly sad. Having said that, I'm not exactly a life and soul of the party type to begin with!

    Mr Ones - glad you like "I Think I'm Going Weird" - it's one of the best compilations of that era that I have heard. Every song on it feels like a peak track. And there are so many more to look into getting....

    I've just been reminded - if you are only going to read one PKD novel "The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch" would be a good one.

  • bluecrow
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    Saw the first 4 of 5 shows at Red Rocks 2003. Joan was awesome, great addition to the core band. bought discs of those shows at the time and listened to a couple of the shows maybe 3 months ago. very enjoyable trip back to those summer days and nights.

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    My "Summer getaway" set is #496 of 500. At a mere 86 CDs, it should be easier to listen to it all but I also haven't heard all of it yet. I agree that Joan Osborne's singing adds a lot to the overall sound of the band.

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    No, I haven’t heard it all yet but it is only 18 years!
    I haven’t played all of the 2003 tour yet either.
    Of those I’ve heard I prefer 2003 because I like Joan Osborne singing with them.

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One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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DSO are playing the Shepherd's Bush Empire in London on September 13th. Tickets are an extraordinary £108 ($140 ish) for two standing. It's a 2000 capacity venue and at those prices they'll be lucky to get a couple of hundred attending. Completely daft. I saw them some years ago at a small venue in London for about £20 each and had a great night as i did at Phil Lesh at the Brooklyn Bowl in Greenwich. My wife who is definitely not a deadhead had a great time too. I'll give it a miss this time, it's a shame.

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I'd have thought twice if it cost that much! Shepherds Bush Empire, too - yuk. Live Dead 69 were on at the ultra chic Under The Bridge when I saw them. Part of the Stamford Bridge complex - home to Chelsea F.C.

Nick1234 - yes, Brooklyn Bowl - that was where I saw Phil Lesh and co too. Good night . They played Viola Lee Blues....I am certain of it. Fairly certain anyway.

Colin - I have never heard that 1st Ash Ra Tempel album - it's got a good reputation though. The only solo album I have by Klaus Schulze is one called Irrlicht. Pretty good - more like the mid 70's Tangerine Dream - waves of synthesizer. Sounds a bit like watching a lava lamp.

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It's a GOOD ONE though I'm still waiting for an official Reconstruction release.

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You say Alice Cooper is playing in a golf tournament with Ace Frehley?!?!
Sounds great. I'd LOVE to go!!

C'mon USPS!!

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Would say, one can listen to recordings almost anytime, there is nothing like good live music, up close, with kind friends. Among too many stories.... have been fortunate to see DSO a good number of times, including an acoustic performance years ago at an old train station venue in White River Junction, VT for about 100 people. There was a small get together at a friends house nearby before hand, it turned out that Dino (drums) and Rob B. (keyboards) were there among the twelve or so guests, I was charged with grilling the salmon outside during a massive thunderstorm as the power went out briefly. So electric and acoustic. Tickets used to be reasonable around $30-35, surprised they are so much across the pond, travel expenses? As some know, Rob Eaton, DSO rhythm guitar, is directly responsible in the retrieval process of a good deal of the music we have been enjoying on Dave's Picks and elsewhere. Fortunate me, just heard about the release of a few reserved tickets for this Friday night Hot Tuna show, scored a primo front row seat, will have a great view of their feet.

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Shucks, if anyone out there will be near central New Hampshire Friday night, there's still, as of 4:20 pm, two front row seats left for Hot Tuna about $60 each, search on Flying Monkey, Plymouth NH. This is a funky small old movie house that seats about 200 or so.

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Just snagged 4th row center for the Lobero Theater on August 11.

And my Dave's 42 plus bonus disc is on the way.

It's a good day.

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Yes. I think Colorado is the team to beat.

The President’s trophy winner rarely brings home the Cup. Say goodbye to the Panthers.

It’s extraordinarily difficult to win the Cup three times in a row. Say goodbye to the Lightning.

We all know how the teams from Canadaland have performed over the last 25 years or so. I’ll be backing the Oilers in the west and the Leafs in the east. I’m truly hoping this is the year the Cup heads across the border. It’s been way too long. Regardless, say goodbye to our brothers to the north. All of them.

That leaves Colorado. Good luck to your local boys.

Same old for the Sabres and Red Wings. Ugh.

Thank God Better Call Saul is back.

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...DaP 1 vinyl? I got a second shipping notice and thought it was the vinyl, but when I looked again, it was for the a la carte DaP 42 I got for a buddy. Of course, neither my sub, nor the extra copy's tracking numbers work, but that's par for the course, and since they took down the DaP 1 vinyl page, there's nowhere to commiserate with others about it.

Edited to add: Go Hurricanes!

4-8-72 vinyl
A European seller on EBay currently has ‘more than 10 available’ and has sold 5, $99 + $40 shipping.

12-10-71 vinyl
Currently $82 on Amazon. I paid $104 a few months ago.

5-19-74 vinyl
Currently $185 on Amazon (seller in UK). I paid $105 3 years ago.

4-26,27-69 vinyl, Real Gone Music release.
Played it this weekend and it sounded grate.
But, it didn’t sound as good as Rhino vinyl. It had a lot of snap, crackle, and pop, and I wasn’t eating Rice Krispies. I’m going to run it through my Spin Clean system and see if that helps. Of note, I’ve received dirty and damaged Rhino vinyl before too.

Let’s go Red Wings.
The rebuild seems to be further along than expected. Yes, a little rough lately, but Larkin is out.
Haven’t picked a team yet for the Cup, but it certainly won’t be the Avs. I still hold a grudge from the 90’s.

New Garcia/Saunders release.
Excellent (visualize Mr. Burns tapping fingers).

PT, GFar, and anyone else trying to get healthy, glad you’re doing better.

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Oh yeah, they sucked, as expansion teams are wont to do.

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....laughs in Vegas.
But seriously, guess I'll root for my old team Calgary. Flame On!!
Playoff hockey is the best playoffs.
NFL draft this weekend here. Staying as far away as I can from the Strip.
Shipping noticed received. Dead tracking #. Par meet course.

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yesterday listening to 9/8/73
really enjoying it
wife comes into room grumpy
turns OFF CD in the middle of Let it Grow jam
can ya believe it

SERENITY NOW!!!

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No word on DaP1 vinyl here. (It's coming, I'm sure,,,, just not when)

Burnsy wrote New Jerry Release. But because of my reading style (I only seem to read the start of words), I thought New Jersey was releasing a new "something",,,, read the damn thing 3 times before I realized it was New Jerry. (which I had already ordered!)

Hadn't thought of Tangerine Dream in LONG time, thanks for the reminder. Listening to Tangram (set 1). Nice

FYI - just checked,,,,, DaP 1 vinyl still on schedule for 4/29 release,,,,, still no notice!

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What a show! The Other One, appears on Skull & Roses, killer Dark Star/ St. Stephen with T. C. sitting in. This run of shows is on the list of alltime runs of Grateful Dead runs and needs to be released in its entirety. A box set of this run of shows, sells out in minutes.

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I still wait for a ship notice for DP 42! let alone vol 1 vinyl I expect that next year some time at this point. Fulfillment and communication are let's say LACKING!

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Great Seinfeld reference!
I woulda broke her fingers if she touched my rig (just teasing) sorta lol

Well Jack I hope your right and we don’t experience cupus interuptus like the last couple years.
Full disclosure, you can count on one hand how many hockey games I’ve seen this year.
(Poor Mike probably just spewed his Horts after such sacrilege!)
The older I get the less time I have for sports, and since the Sabres have sucked so bad, for so long that hasn’t helped.
I have gotten back into football a bit since the Bills have been watchable and it’s only part of one day a week.

But I ALWAYS check out the NHL playoffs! And the AVs have been red hot, but how many times have we seen that happen: where the hot team blows their wad too soon and crashes and burns? It always seems like it’s about timing, that and if someone’s goalie starts spinning around on their heads and turns into Satin!
How many times have we seen a decent team become invincible because of a suddenly super hot goalie!
But I like your theory and hope your right!

And yass, Canadaland is way overdue, so if not the AVs, how bout dem Leafs! Go Leafs, lol, I just like saying go Leafs, don’t even need a reason lol. But how cool would that be, whole country would go nuts!

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Extremely tasty

A long time ago I had a little sumpin' and was overlooking a valley with the Dark Star etc. playing

A whole lotta fun

Oh yes...

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DaP 42 be shipped. If the winds be fair, if there be not pirates along the straits of Bakersfield, a small package of some value will come to ye shortly.

Nary a word there be on the DaP 1 vinyl. Bodes ill, that does.

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Oro - I believe you just made my Christmas card list with this joyful Leaf talk. With you, Angry Jack, and I pulling for the Leafs, why they outta…

Good on the Bills. I used to venture down to Rich/Wilson for games, always a great time, even when the temperature was tundra-like. God love those giant Genesse beers…

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Ooppphhh, sounds like a stomach ache lol.
Those were the days, getting down at the Ralph!

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latest email says, "label created",,,, so a week?

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"packaging sealed"

another week
"postage affixed"

then another week
"package picked up"

three weeks later:
delivery!

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5/8/almost wrote 77

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my first opinion of 9/8/73 release was "meh"
I am warming up to it

I still don't think it's ONE OF THE BEST but it's OK.

Dave the Hype Man (it's his gig) talks about Dick Latvala getting all gooey over the show.

Hmm

Addendum: He's Gone > Truckin' > NFAGDTRFBNFA...there's just something not quite MINDBLOWING about it.

6/10/73 Dave...6/10/73...
2/9/73 Dave...2/9/73...
3/21/73 Dave...3/21/73...

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A label has been created. So, there be hope left. Still no working tracking on DaP 42. Would love to be surprised with delivery tomorrow. Not holding my breath for a weekend listen...

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I haven't received any email notifications yet. Is it still being released today?
Dave's Picks Vol. 42 w/ Bonus Disc
(Pre-order - released on: 4/29/2022)

Today is release day
When it arrives is anybodyz guess
Shipping notice? "Maybe so, maybe not"
You cant tell with this bunch

BLUEBOY714.. Same BS different day. I plan to scrap the subscription next year buy 1 3 4 a la carte and 2 off ebay to get the bonus disk. This is not suppose to be so frustrating nothing but Kill joys.

to manufacture their CD for DP the quality has gone down (skips in CD, shipping late, no email communication, etc.). I understand supply chain and all of that but these are CDs and they s/b able to make without a problem unlike vinyl records where their is a shortage of lacquer due to the largest supplier burning down.

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My favorite version of Minglewood Blues, a real rocker! Me & My Uncle appears on Skull & Roses. Alligator, and the jam the Dead play after it, is fantastic, something I can listen to over and over again and it's just best, the exclamation point on a legendary run.

I have FTV 1 & 3 on order and looks like the date keeps moving. How's the weight and quality?

Anyone know why the DP19 Real Gone vinyl went from $129 via Real Gone website to $199 via record stores and other merchants? Seems steep considering the cover appears to be a low res blowup of the original cd pamphlet...

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One for the money, two For the show! - that's what I think.

I thought it was a cover song and didn't realize it was Keith singing at first. I had it on while I was working and lost track of what was going on. I think Keith's voice was clear and strong and had some range. He sounded a little bit untrained vocally. I thought the backup vocals would have been better without Donna. The kid had some potential for a song a night. I read the lyrics are from Hunter, which kind of surprised me because they don't really sound like him.

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Checked tracking, and despite getting a shipping notice on Monday, UPS has no idea where my Cds are. This is borderline ridiculous. Scratch that, it’s not borderline, it is completely ridiculous. Plus I ordered a la carte, so I paid for this “shipping” , if you want to call it that…….no wonder people order off of ebay. Just sayin’

It's been this way for long while. Buy it ala carte and ebay - sure, go for it if that's what suits you. For me the subscription is without question the best deal in my whole purchasing world.

I think Keith was a little out of his comfort zone on Let Me Sing live. Several shows after 9/8 I think Jerry et al start stretching out on the jam and Keith's vocal reentry shows some stress.

As for Hunter's lyrics - for awhile its struck me as strange when folks are surprised that a lyric is Hunter's if its not a jerry tune. All the grief that Samba in the Rain got and to me its lyric is pure straight up Hunter and all good, who cares if it was Vince and not Jerry.

"all good things in all good time"

Your Daves will arrive

side note
listened to some Jerry band for the first time in a loooong time (on cassette no less)
3/18/78
Gomorrah, Simple Twist, Midnight Moonlight
rich sounding funtimes

We miss you Jerry!!!!!

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To all of our shipping woes. Works for me, might not work for everyone.
So, for most of my life, I had to have EVERYTHING now!! Especially music!! So, I can't advise specifically HOW to accomplish this, but I FINALLY realized 2 things:
1-It WILL arrive eventually
2-I have SO MUCH great stuff to listen to!! I am forever wondering when I'll have time to listen to this disc or that disc so....now is the time. And by the time I'm done listening, my Dave's 42 will be here!!

Anyway as I said, it works for me. It's difficult to be patient, but, I am an old dog trying to learn a new trick.

Music is the Best!!

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I am at this moment listening to 12/3/81 on SiriusXM and enjoying it thoroughly, so yes, I appreciate your solution. In this moment, the music is pretty darn good!!

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The original drummer for Tangerine Dream and the guy on the kit for Stomu Yamashta's awesome band from 76-77 GO with Steve Winwood, Mike Shrieve and Al Di Meola, has passed away. Always loved those GO lp's back in the day. A true pioneer of the ambient space rock. Via con Dios Think I'll break out that first GO lp now, always a fun listen.

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ConeKid - still have the Go vinyl.

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