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    One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

    First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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  • That Mike
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    First off, welcome back Dennis! I totally understand on the Charles Lloyd set. I did pick
    up the first “trio” CD (the one with Frisell), but haven’t had a chance to play it yet. Expectations are high. I don’t think the vinyl box set is limited issue (I don’t think), so no rush to get it yet. I didn’t realize until yesterday that Lloyd & Frisell played the Ottawa Jazz Festival this past weekend, which is only a 4 hour car hike from here, and would have been a great weekend trip for the wife and I. Like the Toronto Maple Leafs - next time(sorry for the hockey talk Dennis). PS - I have some albums by the “other” Bill Evans, the sax player (he has played with Hornsby) - he is a decent player. Tell me your impressions of the Miles album when you can.

    Sixtus/Oro - I was thinking another way to approach this “Which Artists” to listen to for piano jazz, since the lists everyone provided were really great, but perhaps overwhelming, is to approach it more organically, ie - the kneebone is connected to the shinbone etc. Start with a jazz artist you perhaps know, and see what side players he or she plays with. Who contributes to their sound? Or labels. Blue Note, a great jazz label for generations is a great one to start with. A great many recordings in the 50s & 60s on that label were produced by Rudy Van Gelder. Like all Producers, he had “go to” musicians he would call into the studio to back an artist. Tony Williams, drummer, is making a solo album, Van Gelder may call on a young Herbie Hancock, or Wayne Shorter, Joe Henderson etc. Next, Shorter is making an album, who backs him up? How about all the truly remarkable musicians Miles Davis worked with? Four of them became star keyboard players in their own right: Jarrett, Corea, Hancock, and Zawinul (who had a budding career with Cannonball Adderley).
    I always found in music in general, and jazz in particular, the kneebone is connected to the shinbone; you like “this”, you’ll definitely like “that”.

  • Dennis
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    1st show and jingles

    I have an LP of Winston cigarette ads that were played on the radio. My father got this from somewhere, I was maybe 16. Still have.

  • Dennis
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    Don't forget Jeff Chimenti,,, who I think is better than Keith.

    Some mentioned Bill Evans piano player.

    I just got in my vinyl copy of Miles Davis Live - What it Is - Montreal 7/7/83. Reading the back cover and there is Bill Evans, only he's playing saxes and flutes. So I looked it up,,, it said this.....

    This double LP release features one of Miles Davis' final great bands: John Scofield on guitar, Bill “The Other Bill Evans” Evans on saxophones, flute and electric piano, Darryl Jones on bass, Al Foster on drums, and percussionist Mino Cinelu.

    So there are two Bills. I think one must have a goatee and be from the evil universe!

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    Can't talk piano players without mentioning Keith Godchaux, at one time one of the greatest piano players 9n Earth.

  • 1stshow70878
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    We have the same blessing/curse of remembering esoteric things like jingles. Every cigarette, beer, cereal, appliance, and car ad had a jingle. Now they just steal a song we all liked and now can't stand as they've ruined it for us. Really, "Everybody Damp Rid"? Or "All Right Now" for a drug I don't need? One of the favorite games my wife and I play is to jam together songs and jingles that have nothing to do with each other. You start with Red Red Robin and end up at the Woody Woodpecker theme then Diamonds Are a Girl's Best Friend or the Dick Van Dyke show. Likely because we can't remember the whole thing anyway. I think the advertisers in the 60's had evil intentions for our little spongy brains. I'm the youngest of three and the back seat of the car was where I might subject my sisters to hours long renditions of This Old Man. "Mom, make him stop!" Unfortunately an earworm can really screw up my day even now. So the cure is to just have music on all the time. Music is the best.
    Cheers

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    Only gone for 4 days I come back to 17 pages of "stuff"! (ok, once I stripped away hockey it was only a half page :-) )

    Too much to cover or comment on,,,,, but I try a little.

    That Mike - Chuck Lloyd, thanks for the heads up. Chuckie will be on back burner for now. 600 bucks for the 24 albums and a box set yet to come?!?! My wife's wallet does have limits!

    Springsteen,,,, ok I'm from Jersey, past that, Bruce appeared in my life at the right time I guess. His songs always speak to me of hope and the struggles of the working stiff.

    Disco - I was big on the disco ball. Back in the late seventies with Frankie Crocker on WBLS,,,, stereo in black. I believe you'd find a lot of recording technics came out of the that disco vein.

    Couple of unmentioned disco headphone songs,,,, Peter Brown - Do You Want to Get Funky with Me. CJ & Co - The Devil's Gun, or Santa Esmeralda - Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood. GREAT, GREAT album of day and GREAT GREAT headphone album,,,, Dr Buzzard's Original Savannah Band!!!!

    Zappa,,, I keep buying his "stuff", I like a chunk, a chunk can be tedious. Sometimes GREAT ability does not translate to enjoyable. If you're a musician maybe you can be awed by technical, but if you're an idiot like me you can't tell he just played an augmented Major G in a diminished F. Also the twice I caught Frank he seemed to think he was doing you a favor by playing and you should be thankful he did!

    Jazz piano,,,, you read the list people posted and you like, oh yeah, him. I like when some said don't forget tatum and liberace. On the Oscar front, my buddy is a huge fan. Caught him whenever he played. He had an album called something like "for my friends". He had this one cut where he was playing song "a". Right hand carried the melody and left belting out rhythm. All of sudden left hand started playing a different song , "B". So now he's playing two songs at the same time. Notes from song "A" start walking down to the bass end, while song "B" starts walking to high end. The two hands cross each other while jamming out and poof, back to one song "A". I was wowed to say the least! :-)

    Charlie 3 - Ipanema (great tune). I used to go to this restaurant/coffee house/bar. They would have bands, small venue 20-30 people listening to this group. They started playing Ipanema and out of this crowd comes this woman steps up to the mike and starts sing the lyrics in Portuguese and she sounds exactly like the origial! Song ended and she went back and sat down. Blew the room away and I think the band!

    Mr Ones,,,, I pretty sure I have the motown hippo stuff

    Finally an incredible flash-back moment. Sorting thru the latest treasure trove of music I've recently received I stumbled across Miriam Makeba,,, name meant nothing to me. Wiki said she was the voice of Africa (or something like that). Sorted and filed all. I always listened to pieces of what I add to my collection so I have some idea of what's what. So it looked like a cut "pata pata" was her big hit. I put it on and my head exploded. I knew the song, but had not thought about it since it came out. I mean I had not THOUGHT at all about it, which is odd for me since I have almost every tune I know running thought my head at all time. Even the childhood ones I learned in 1st grade!! I don't think a month goes by when I don't find myself singing the Erie Canal! Trust me I've never navigated on it, but sing about once a month. :-) Commerical jingles always run though me,,,,, remember this one,,,, My beer is Reingold the dry beer, think of Reingold whenever you buy beer. It's refreshing, not sweet, it's the extra dry drink. Would try extra dry Reingold beer?

    Like Monk,,, it's a blessing,,,,,,,, and a curse! (mostly for the people that have to listen to me sing them :-) )

    Sorry for the ramble, but you did leave me 17 pages to comment on! (but no hockey comments thankfully)

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    Amazing piano solo on David Bowie's "Alladdin Sane". Decades ago, a mate of mine wrote to Mike Garson, asking for a transcription of the solo. Incredibly he got a reply. Not a transcription, though. If I remember rightly, Garson said he couldn't transcribe it if he tried. Hats off to him for replying though.

    Practising 4 hours a day for 15 years on any instrument is cheating. As the man said, we could all be good if we did that.

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    I'll go with the old school: Albert Ammons, Duke Ellington, Count Basie, Willie "the Lion" Smith, Fats Waller.

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One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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When mine got sent back we checked with the PO and they said it only had the physical address info, not the PO Box.
So for whatever reason the label wasn’t printed the same/correctly? It seemed like knowing that helped Rhino?
Like you, I’ve not had other issues. Fingers crossed it hasn’t happened since. Good Luck amigo!

Oh, is that avatar a Chork? Are you into Leftover Salmon? Played in a band called Wave Mountain Riders BITD. We had an original song called Chork: about being on Salmon tour and what happens when ya mate a pig and a chicken! Fun stuff lol, your avatar brought back fond memories!

....waiting for the mail carrier.
Playing disc 2 of Boxillas Cape Cod '79 offering.
You know whats on it.
My anticipation is high.
Edit. Leftover Salmon gets my nod. Great band.
Govt Mule and Los Lobos coming here soon.

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DP 42 and DP vol 1 Vinyl, the eagle has landed. I must say Dr. Rhino at customer service is the man or woman! Not easy dealing with crazy deadheads, but he or she is a whisperer!!

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I’m glad to hear your experiences have been positive, too.

My avatar is a “Buster” in reference to the song by my favorite working band, moe.

What the hell. That was a terrible first round draw for our beloved Leafs.

I know I said the Lighting won’t win three times in a row, but they’ve got a way better goalie. We may be looking at another first round exit. If they don’t win game one tonight that really puts the pressure on them. Good luck.

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....good to see.
Because, "music is indeed the best".
Especially when it's '74 GOGD.
It's baseball season here AJS. Lol.
Calgary is gonna ruin your day.

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Vguy 72 before I even ripped in 42!! at he's gone as I write this, Just beautiful! God bless the Grateful Dead and God bless Vinyl!

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Check pm

"It really was no miracle
What happened was just this..."

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I’m just waiting on the puck drop now. A big “Gulp” going against Tampa Bay, but I think this is Auston Matthews’ year.
Regardless, the playoffs are the best, and always plenty rough! Love it!
Deep breath….

(PS - I’m glad 42 is landing yonder and hither. Here is hoping those ole shipping blues are of another time.)

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Really stupid penalty, but it seems to have energized the Leafs. They had more SOG than Tampa during the PK.

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Breathing…just breathing…

(Clifford doth sucketh for such a stupid penalty!)

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But those were some pretty weak penalty calls against Tampa

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Normally I would say the game is over, but this is the Leafs.

Is anyone else having issues with the audio feed? On my broadcast, the audio is almost a full second ahead of the video. Really annoying.

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This Auston Matthews is something else. A kid that grew up in Arizona may be the best Toronto Maple Leaf I’ve ever seen in 60+ years watching.

Note to self: Must order new Garcia release. Expectations are muted, as there has been so many Keystone releases to date in both series, all his bands, so I’m expecting more of the same loose arrangements, and fun playing, with no surprises.

....aww. Phil laying it down.
Like a warm blanket.
Lemme get up in there. Thanks.
Edit.
That Big River raised both eyebrows.
That's what I'm talking about.
Slam dunk. It really doesn't get much better.
Had to shift down to Ramble-On.
Some gears were ground, but the foot found the clutch eventually.
Sounds awesome.
This is what we pay for.

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....I've caught at least 2 slipknot references....there are several runs Jerry makes in The Other One where he is clearly playing the primordial riff.

There is another brief moment another reference gets made toward the beginning of the Playin jam on the bonus disc.

Ears are astute, and will remain perk'd.

Now back to your regularly scheduled GD sammich of choice.

Sixtus

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Pretty good game there eh!
Yassss Clifford went a little over the top, but it got em fired up!

Let’s hope it’s not just one game where the Bolts were sleeping, but now they get woke after getting spanked!

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For those who still depend on the Pony Express to get our Dave's Picks...

How is the sound, and how does it compare to Dave's Picks 13 (one of my fav's)

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Wow. Evidently, the USPS has the ability to travel time!

Checked my DaP shipping progress this morning at about 7:30am. The website showed that at 5:30am, the shipment was in my city’s post office. (Yay!)

BUT it also showed that at 7:41am (ten minutes in the future!) it would materialize in San Leandro, CA, about 80 miles away. AND at 11:41am (more than four hours into the future) it would leave there. WTF?

So, I think we can conclude that either a) the postal service is capable of manipulating time and space or b) those tracking details are complete bullshit.

Ah well. Either way I'll probably get the DaP this week.

I finally found a show I am willing to attend

George Clinton and P-Funk

July 28

Maybe Daves will arrive today
Pleeeease

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DAP 13 has been one of my faves as well along with the 73 UCLA show as far as audio goes. This release is just a pleasing to my ear as #13. To me the pedal effects (especially Phil's) are extra meaty and dynamic to my ears a nice example are the Moog effects (sounds like they are Moog anyway) in HCS jams. Dare I say I like the audio dynamics more so than on 13?! Very nice release. Pleasure to listen to for sure.

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04/25 Order information received by UPS
04/26 Shipping mail received
05/03 Package received for processing in Fontana

It looks like it might be delivered this year.

...but how much will it cost? I'd forgotten about those three letters, USP, for a while, but coming on here, and seeing them typed out it all came rushing back. I went to check my bank statements, to see if they ever paid me back for the money they overcharged me for delivering the box in October. And they did - £32.59 paid back to me in March. I had to be firm with them, as I recall. Firm and persistent.. but fair, I like to think.

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Luckily Dave's Picks are sent by Mail Innovations. This means that UPS pass the parcel to USPS. It is USPS who ship it across the pond and give it to the national customs authority. The local customs then ask for payment of VAT and administrative costs and subsequently pass the goods on to the national postal service who deliver it to your door.
When it comes to box sets then the whole process is carried out by UPS with all their ineptitude and mistakes which, as we have experienced, can result in huge costs that have no basis in fact or law. It is a long and frustrating task to sort out their mess and get ones money back.
I can understand that our pals in the US of A prefer UPS to USPS but they don't have to deal with customs etc.

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The Me and Bobby Mcgee highlights how they were just learning how to use the microphones for the wall of sound. If they backed up a bit and instead of singing into the top mic they were singing into to both with the lower mic being out of phase, then the vocal signal canceled out. Fascinating to hear the learning in progress.

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DaP 42 showed up in the mail today. I immediately ripped it and loaded it into iTunes. I took Dave's advise and built a playlist with the Bonus Disc, DaP 13 and DaP 42 (in that order). Listening to (and enjoying it) right now!

Simonrob-yes, I don't remember paying excess charges for the last Daves Picks I ordered. Just the box.
With the box they told me that it had been classified as containing items of clothing-which for some reason are taxed more heavily than cds. That was just what one person said though-it seems a very random process.

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I don't know JJC. It sounds like they all fade out and fade back in at the same time as if there's something else going on.

JiminMD tough ti say. I am a few songs in and overall things sound good, but some bits sound distorted or overdriven. This could just be the sound people getting the beginning of the show straightened out. But I would say so far it goes to Dave's Picks 13. Just starting Sugaree.

Jerry sounds good. That's all I care about :-)

Count me among the minority, but I love my USPS. UPS can suck my kiss. In the end USPS bring my shit, ups takes forever to hand off to them, but once they have,,,, I usually get same day.

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Came yesterday, took to work and played. Sounded great there.

Home now and listening on headphones.

Great recording!!!

Not a Here Comes Sunshine expert, but this one sounds great. AND I have NOT heard anyone talking,,,,, AMEN :-)

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Glad you have good luck with these clowns.
Mine has followed its usual route: passing within a mile and a half of my house, and a quarter mile of the PO, twice! Once going to Denver, then all the way back across the state to GJ. So now it’ll be another day to come halfway back across the state again. Yeeesshhk, hey, as long as it gets here : )

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The Bonus Disc pic would make a GREAT sheet of blotter!!!

AM I RIGHT? CAN I GET AN AMEN?

also,,,, I surprised the glass hasn't sold out yet,,,, guess the "love of the glass" is over.

Time to bring back the axe!!! (givem the axe, the axe, the axe, the axe. right in the neck, right in the neck, right in the neck)

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Like Bill Cosby said,,,,,, "just a little snakie lick"

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Dennis, I haven't heard a reference to that Cosby album in maybe 40 years! Fantastic! .... SNAKES ... you get outta here!!! I will not comment on the whole Cosby saga, but WILL say that I enjoyed the Playboy Jazz Festival at the Hollywood Bowl for 15+ years (hosted by the Cos) ....

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no email, no tracking number, no bread in the breadbox. Sure hope this is not the one that gets "lost in the mail".

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