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    One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

    First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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    Jon Evison, that’s the one, cool guy and perhaps my favorite “modern” author.
    I’ve thoroughly enjoyed all his work, but West of Here is amazing, I love historic fiction!
    Really funny, and knowledgeable, and super nice. We had the pleasure to meet and tip a few with him on a couple occasions. He even sent us schwag!

    The Knack, lol, Wow, there’s a blast from the past!
    No offense intended, (just going for a laugh) but first thing pops into my demented mind was the spoof “my scrotum” by I believe Cheech Marin?

  • Mr. Ones
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    I don’t mind any topics, I’m just not too talkative during topics I don’t relate to as well as others.
    Like most, music is my favorite topic here, especially when I get turned on to something new!! More on that later.
    I have loved reading since I was 5 years old. I had a sister 4 years older who taught me to read before I started school. What a gift that was. Oddly, I love sci-fi TV & Movies, but never enjoyed reading it. I strongly favor non-fiction, biographies, history and the like. I read a lot of bios of musicians. Currently about 150 pages in to the new Bill Frisell bio. Doesn’t get much better than that for me. I occasionally read fiction, usually when it’s written by Nick Hornby, my favorite current writer by a mile.
    My sports fanatic dad pretty much insured that I would become one too. One of my fave stories to tell, to describe how when an evening has a conflict between a sporting event and a concert…let’s just say one September evening in 1979, I gave up World Series tickets to see The Knack in DC.
    (The game was postponed and I got to see it the next night).
    DAVEROCK, I finally got a copy of the afore mentioned 5-disc set. It is even better than you described. Only 3 discs in, but excited to continue on-Thanks for the great tip!!

    Last 5:

    Think I’m Going Weird-Disc 3
    “”””””""””””””””””””””””””””””-Disc 2
    “””””””"””””””””””””””””””””””-Disc 1
    Pieces of Jade-Scott LaFaro
    At Your Birthday Party-Steppenwolf

    Music is the Best!!!!!!

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    Billy - I forgot about hiking. About ten years ago, I took my daughters on a trip down the Pacific Coast highway starting in San Francisco and ending in San Diego. Riding in a Ford Mustang convertible of course. To this day, the highlight of the entire trip for them was hiking Hawk Hill. No lie. They still talk about it.

    Dave - great authors are a rarity. You are correct. Best to enjoy them slowly. I just finished a Steinbeck kick. That dude can write. Looking forward to Dickens.

    Oro - it did get chippy out there. Especially Draisaitl. With all that talent there is no need for it. You'll become the next Marchand. Not cool at all.

    Also, are you referring to Jon Evison who wrote "West of Here"? If so, I am half way through his new book, Small World. That is pretty ironic. I never heard of him until a few weeks ago.

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    Boblopes - that is the very copy of PKD's short stories that I am reading. I got the single volume "Selected Stories" which is a beautiful book and a great selection. My eyes nearly popped out of my head when I saw that Complete Short Stories edition advertised last year. I made the big mistake of discussing it with a friend first, and showing it to her online. She was very disapproving - I stalled - and the next thing I knew, it had sold out. Now it is advertised on ebay for twice it's original price. Still - it was really expensive.
    The next two on my list are "Something Wicked This Way Comes" by Ray Bradbury and the two in one "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" and "A Scanner Darkly" by PKD.
    I discovered the Folio Society about 15 years ago - beautiful books, and because people who buy them tend to look after them, you can sometimes find second hand copies which are in mint condition.
    But never the ones by science fiction authors, unfortunately. Second hand copies of those are usually advertised at two or three time their original price.
    Never though I'd see reference to The Folio Society on here!

  • Oroborous
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    Just read a great debut novel: Raft of Stars by Andrew Graff.
    Nice little sorta old fashion (in a good way) one day read.
    The biggest thing I find that influences my read opinions nowadays is the ending. I’ve read many books the last few years that are great, until the end. Some of these authors are really good, but as my buddy Jon Evison would say they just can’t get outta the way of their own coffee breath.
    Now admittedly I do like a nice clean ending with loose ends tied up etc, but it’s not necessary if the book is really good otherwise. But I hate when your left gaping, wondering what the hell just happened. Like your watching a really intense movie, and right at the big crescendo, the cable or internet goes out! Dooaahh!
    This one has a good ending, but perhaps goes a little over the top? I guess that’s for the reader to decide?
    Probably my only slight criticism.
    Great characters, some who get a interesting treatment of self analyzation, plot moves along nicely as the tension builds, all without going on too long.

    HOCKEY: sorry to the folks who get riled, it’ll all be over soon and it’s not like this place has been a hot bed of GD lately.

    PROUDFOOT: as AJ states, like the Dead, hockey can be an acquired taste. The regular season can sometimes get tedious and you can tell the players sometimes dial it in, but not as bad as baseball.
    But the Stanley Cup playoffs are often the best sports there is (imho), at least in North America.
    Most of the games this year have been incredibly exciting. Think Super bowl energy sustained over the course of several weeks. Perhaps like the final four or NBA finals? So watch the playoffs to get an idea of what hockey can be like at its best. If you don’t like it, ce la vie, hey, there’s always the GOGD if nothing else!

    VGUY: curious if you’ve been enjoying this years action even though your beloved K-nits are not playing?

    AJ: that’s why they call them the Avalanche: one minute it’s all calm and sunny, next a fast wall of terror rains down and moneys missing from yer dresser, your daughters knocked up, and your GD HD won’t work!
    Yep, zero zero, then Whooosshh seconds later 3 zip!
    And hey, who has a hotter Ice Crew!
    The Oilers we’re doing a fine job of controlling the AVs in the first, though perhaps getting a little goonish? Thought there were some questionable non calls? Unfortunately, late in the game Kane and company definitely were going too far. I get the whole need to maintain respect etc, but it’s the conference finals FFS. Hope things don’t start going too far and someone gets hurt.
    And what about Frankie? Thought he did a good job in the first series, but I was a little unsettled by his last outing. Last night he did a great job and it’s fun to see how the fans love him. Really curious what’s up with Kuemper? He didn’t seem distressed and actually kept playing for a bit before he left so wondering what’s up?
    Tonight should be really interesting to see if the Rangers are for real, or if game one was a fluke?

    BOBLOPES: good to see ya back in the rotation here. Never been a huge sci-fi fan, but did read (at least?) the first Dune book like 40 years ago. Not sure about the others. Same with Hitch Hikers Guide. Theodore Sturgeon’s More Than Human that influenced how the GD became what they are has always been my favorite. Always been a big believer in Gestalt theory. The Stand was another good one I read back then, should reread since Covid.
    Rut roh, the B’s, LOL as THATMIKE says “your off the Xmass card list”

    Speaking of, what happened to Mike? Curious about his current hockey thoughts, and always his musical thoughts too. Hopefully he’s not having severe depression, like after the funeral is over and everyone goes home and now yer all alone to cope

    FYI, JIMS currently outta the office, er a, the loop here as he needs to maximize every once of big water he can while the gettin’s good. He’ll be back before ya know it and with a new relaxed perspective that comes from the satiated fulfilled contentment that comes from exhausting yourself doing things you love! Kinda like after dancing yer ares off after THAT dead show! Better than therapy and at a fraction of the cost!

    It’s Friday good people, summers here (sorta) and the time is right for dancing in the streets! Hopefully Oroboros and others have been having a gas at Jrad!
    GAME ON!

    Dear captcha, thanks for wasting yet another half hour of my life with yer ridiculous (because of your flaws) nonsense that only seems to stymie DHs just trying to connect and communicate in spite of the lousy format that is the internet.

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    This is the hottest band in the land and has been for 10 years. By all means, go with an open mind. They'll rock your socks off.

    That is all.

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    Discovered Folio Society last fall and been rediscovering my favorite Science Fiction books I have not read in 30 years, along with reading the Ian Fleming books for the first time. Sort of like the yearly releases here, very nice editions but pricey. I get to experience your shipping woes in reverse (minus the VAT).

    Folio Society just came out with a nice edition of PKD's short stories. I think they had a Limited Edition set of all of PKD's short stories, but that sold out long before I discovered them and was too pricey for my budget...

    Halfway through The Handmaids Tale (1st read). Next up will be Moonraker, then deciding between Dune or Foundation Trilogy (both re-reads).

    Still have some of the 4 disc E72 Germany shows to go thru, but finished strong with all four Lyceum shows on their anniversary date. Did a little blast thru the three cd's of Kate Bush due to Stranger Things the last couple of days.

    Rooting for the Celtics in The Finals and hoping The Oilers bounce back. Sad to see the B's get bounced. Suspect it's Bergeron's last season wearing the Spoked B. Would like to see a Canadian Team win some year (as long as it's not the HABs or the Canucks). My preference would be The Leafs if the B's are out.

    Played Disc Golf for the first time in 30 years. Bought 2 beginner sets for my daughter and I and we went for the toss and walk last Sunday. Last time I played was in 1990 when my college concert crew and I road-tripped to see another buddy who lived in DC. It was a whirlwind trip. Did the monument tour, visited the Whitehouse, a session of both the House of Rep and Senate. We walked around Georgetown and saw BobW walking around there and headed off to play Disc Golf. The next day got to see my first Dark Star hitting the monsoon that was RFK on 7/12/90. Pretty sure Jimbo was at that show.

  • Dennis
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    Side Note,,, what else?

    Just got mail about the Jerry Garcia Before the Dead. They've release in limited vinyl. They're 150,,,, amazon had some seem as high as 450?? Not sure why.

    They seem like they are limited, but the amazon ads seem old,,,, the jerry site says back in stock?!?

    I ordered,,,, I have the cd set and have always like it, so what the hell.

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    It's the best way. I'm wading through PK Dick's short stories, and I'm in no hurry to finish. Both Dick and Dickens are worlds to get lost in.

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    Beer, bbq, blues music, sports, and hiking in the hills around the Bay Area .

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One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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Once in a while a person's gotta vent

Stay alert, y'all. Stay alert.

And...you know... ;)))

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....I'm breaking out some Good Ole Grateful Dead. Dave's 34. Jai-Alai Fronton. Feeling better. Yesterday was it's anniversary.

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I browse through from time to time, and when I saw the Motown posts I couldn't resist taking a minute to encourage the acquisition and consumption of soul music in mass quantities. Here's a couple more - check out Gloria Jones' Tainted Love. Long before Soft Cell blew it up in with their cover of the tune with that total '80's sound, Gloria was throwing it down and spitting that song out with heat. Before there was a Yeezus, there was Isaac Hayes fantastic album Black Moses with the big, lush, sounds of his cover of Burt Bacharach's Close to You, sounds that envelope you like a warm pool of water. And then down the road, the Geto Boys sampled Isaac Hayes' Hung Up On My Baby for their track My Mind Is Playing Tricks On Me, and nothing against the Geto Boys, but the riff from Hung Up On My Baby makes that tune. Before NWA was telling people to Express Yourself, Charles Wright was saying it the first time, along with playing that funky groove that really makes both songs pop. There is always a risk you will find yourself drifting off into disco territory, but if hearing Donna Summer moan Love to Love You Baby for 17 minutes doesn't do something for you, I'm sorry, 'cause you're missing out. Mmm... soul, good for what ails you, just as potent a mood lifter as the Grateful Dead.

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....I recognize that name! Good stuff.
Music heals wounds. Auditory bliss.
My dogs sense my apprehension.

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(Applying white-out to lettering previously chiselled on Cup) C - O - L - O - R - A - D - O (dab dab dab) A -V - A - L (continues to cover letters)

Oro - H-e-double hockey sticks of a game! I still say your guys have this. The energy level was incredible. Kadri, though, is a loose cannon, and I keep thinking he is going to go Tuco at the wrong time, and cost the Avs big.

Trivia - Gloria Jones - American soul singer - of Tainted Love fame was mentioned earlier in the Motown discussion. She was an “unofficial” member of Brit glam band T-Rex at their height of fame, and was a committed partner to the late Marc Bolan (they had a son together), and Ms Jones was driving the night of Bolan’s fatal car accident.

Another guy, along with Zappa, who I never “got”, was Springsteen. The high school friend that turned me on to the Dead way back early 70s went and saw Springsteen at a local college field house roughly 1975, before all the fame, and Creem and Rolling Stone were starting to notice this guy, and he said “Watch out - this guy is really something.” I never saw it myself.

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Charlie3 - great posts, cheers! I came across Southern Soul before Motown, as it goes. The first time was through buying an L.P. of Jimi Hendrix Live at Monterey. Only one side was Hendrix, and the other was Otis Redding at the same festival. I much, much preferred this to the Motown that was appearing in the charts at the time-about 1975, I think. It seemed almost rock n' roll to me at the time, and the two slow songs stopped me in my tracks.

But I didn't follow up the interest until about 7 years ago. I like blues and rock n'roll from Memphis, and reading books about them tipped me into the next chapters, which were focussed on Stax. A few years ago I saw, on separate occasions, Booker T. Jones and Steve Cropper in London and I got those three box set cd compilations of Stax/Volt singles around that time. Another great compilation is a 3 cd set called "Take Me To The River." The names you mention - Curtis Mayfield, Isaac Hayes...I am just getting into them really. But I seem to like the 60's music more than the 70's. "I Feel Love", by Donna Summer is a great record. God knows why I liked punk more than this at the time.
I know nothing whatsoever about Sugar Pie DeSanto...but there is a great track by her on a compilation I have called " Chess Soul - A Decade of Chicago's Finest" called "Soulful Dress".

Mr Ones - I have mostly been buying these Complete Motown Singles boxes from Discogs UK, second hand. The prices vary greatly - the 1966 one was the most expensive - about £90.00. The 1963 one was only £30.00, though-and I got that one new from Amazon UK. Usually they are about £50.00.

The only Zappa I really like is "We're Only In It For The Money". Then "Freak Out" a long way behind that one.

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a great Zappa collection and without the funky lyrics, he was truly a great guitar player. Thanks everyone for the well wishes, cost wasn't anything but a knife in the back....and more of the same. The ass hole who laid me off didn't even have the balls to tell me why he was replacing me, with two people who have no experience, for the same money. That's ok, the final insult was when he said he "might" call me back if things don't work out with the new hires or if one of them goes on vacation or if ..... Monkeys fly out my butt. That was the final straw, I told him that I ain't no flunky for his suckass friends and hung up on him. I'm 68 soon to be 69, Fuck work. I think I'll try welfare for a while, hell, why not, the country is going to hell and if the ones who did this yesterday have their way, we will all be slaves, made to breed, for their slave farms. They need the poor to do their dirty work, so, more poor ignorant folks, the better for them, so keep them barefoot and pregnant and stupid, the rights way of thinking will sink us all.

"Age-ism"

It's a real thing

Fuck the schmuck, PT.

Send him/her on a permanent trip to Phukem on the island of Phuket in Thailand.

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....going to see Primus tonight. Rescheduled from 2020 due to covid. I've never seen them and my expectations are high.

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Favorite posters outside the supreme court yesterday.
Not that I would support such violins on television (Miss Emily Latella, aka Gilda Radner)
"Off With Their Dicks" and
"Dismember The Court"
Ouch!
And back to regular scheduling: Do we usually get an announcement of some kind before DaP43? I'm jonesin'.

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Lets hear about it, Dave!!!

Oops...

"No interstate delivery of recorded music"
"No travelling to California to talk with Dave (wait...he's in BC, methinks). NO TRAVELLING TO BC!"

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You are correct, DaveRock, Donna Summer's I Feel Love is great, if I'm in the mood for some Donna it's either that track or Love to Love You Baby more often than not.

Sugar Pie DeSanto is awesome, one of my favorites. Soulful Dress is a great tune and she has a lot more just as good, or in a couple cases even better. I picked up a couple of CD's by her and Go Go Power, the complete Chess Singles is a smoker from start to finish, the better of the two that I picked up. Soulful Dress, Do I Make Myself Clear, In The Basement (with Etta James) and Mama Didn't Raise No Fools stand out in my memory at the moment as highlights of that collection. Do I Make Myself Clear is absolutely on fire.

And, yeah, the Stax boxes, the first three were an early acquisition for me in my soul collection, but there is also a fourth Stax Box - Rarities and the Best of the Rest - that covers some soul rarities, some gospel, and some of the other stuff released on Stax and related labels that ranges outside the soul category. That fourth one is not quite as consistently good as the first three, but it does have a few things that got in my head and my completist nature left me no choice but to pick it up.

For something from this century that sounds like it could have been released in the 1970's, check out Charles Bradley, particularly the track Ain't It a Sin. If you can watch him do Ain't It a Sin online on the you post it video site and not want to pick up some of his stuff I would be surprised. Started checking Charles out when I saw an article about his soulful cover of Black Sabbath's Changes, good stuff, cool version of the song.

And Curtis Mayfield, started checking him out when a friend suggested the Superfly soundtrack, and all it took was the song Pusherman to get me seeking out more Curtis, not to mention my dawning realization that the HBO show the Wire had a bunch of Curtis playing at various points and I dug it. Give Pusherman a listen and see if you can sit still. There's a good box set - Curtis, Keep On Keeping On, Curtis Mayfield Studio Albums 1970-974, a good way to get all his albums at once for a great price. The HBO show the Sopranos also had a bunch of soul tunes scattered throughout, I'm still looking to track down a copy of the song Sally Go 'Round the Roses by the Jaynettes. Or rather, I just picked up a copy this morning, further support for the hypothesis that I have an online shopping problem and a near pathological need to expand my CD collection.

I'll try and shut up now, but once I start down the soul rabbit-hole I can't stop.

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Hahaha. See what I did there. 🤭

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To quote the great Chris Berman!
What a game! Now that was sports worth watching.
The outcome does not surprise me. The Bolts are like a bad case of the clap that just won’t go away, and I mean that as a complement!

AJS: well said as usual. I agree. Pretty much sums it all up.
MIKE: LOL. and yeah, Kadri’s “enthusiasm” can sometimes be a little nerve racking.
PF: love the cup jokes etc, and the energizer bunny, hell last night I felt like I was doing speed!
Dark-Star: good to see ya xxoo. Sounds like your the drunk yelling from the arm chair. I’m just showing solidarity for my fellow Americans, and VGUY, STOLZTY, PANCHO, PT BARNUM etc.
VGUY/PRIMUS: will they be doing Farewell to Kings? Either way should be cool! Have Fun!

CHARLIE: cool stuff, thanks for the good read! Brought up so many awesome aural memories. You guys ever check out Soul or Acid Jazz (prefer Soul as Acid is not really appropriate). Charles Earland, Donald Byrd, Idris Muhammad, Melvin Sparks, Deodato, Jimmy Smith, Dr Lonnie Smith, Grover Washington Jr. (before he went all Kenny G) and so many more. Fits right next to Curtis the Superfly Pusherman etc, GOOD SHEET MON!
Lots of crossover between Soul, Motown Jazz etc. I always felt much of what Merl and Jerry were up to fit in this category. And Disco is perhaps cousins to all this? I like to make my own sorta best of CDs, and I made a killer 2 disc version for a friends young daughter who loved disco. But we like it too, it can be fun stuff, hell folks used to dis The Bee Gees but if you really check out their music it’s pretty solid (and those boys burned like chimneys. My cousin worked on their studio and said no burned like the BeeGees) and I Feel Love, that was my opening track! And what a great stoner song. Put that on a big stereo set up with good stereo imaging, get prepped ; ) , and sit in the sweet spot and check it out. It sounds amazing and that cool auto pan stuff is right outta Healy and Mickeys bag of tricks.

Ah yes, Music, sweet, sweet music, the antidote to what ails ya and the ills of the world.
As Mr Ones would say, Music is the best! Crazy how much great music there is…

CONEKID: almost forgot ya. I can understand your ongoing feud. Took us awhile to get over the Wings lol.
And as a life long Buffalo fan for good or for Ill, it’s still hard to like the Dolphins (sorry vguy) Dallas, and I’m not sure I’ll ever be able to root for the Patsies, even without Brady and Gronk!
I’m just curious, is because of the overall war that was that great rivalry or perhaps just the Lemieux issues?
I’m trying to remember, I’ll have to look for that show you mentioned.

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Saw Sugar Pie DeSanto and Etta James both play at the S.F. Blues Festival, also saw Etta James play with the Dead in 1982. Next box is gonna be something from 90,91, 92, possibly Winterland March 1977. I hope its something from 1969/1970 with acoustic material included.

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My exposure to soul jazz or acid jazz is limited and mainly consists of listening to Fusion FM hosted by Roy Ayers in Grand Theft Auto IV in Liberty City, not sure if that's exactly on point. Nice stuff, a mellow, jazzy, psychedelic vibe to some of it as I recall. Mister Magic by Grover Washington Jr is on my list of future acquisitions, maybe some Roy Ayers as well, who knows once I get started in that direction, just haven't picked it up yet. Hopefully Mister Magic is before the transition to Kenny G. that you describe, Oro. Grand Theft Auto in its various iterations actually turned me on to a bunch of great stuff on the various radio stations. Cool to just drive around listening to the radio, sparking the occasional police chase or just looking for hidden stuff. Don't knock it if you haven't tried it. Not a bad option as far as an option for a time vacuum. You know you're hitting the GTA a little hard when you start to notice all the unique stunt jumps when you're driving around in the real world. (GTA fiends may get it, the rest of you will just have to play the game excessively, then take a drive in the real world.)

VGUY, that should be awesome. I read about it in Bass Player magazine. Interviews with both Les Claypool and Geddy Lee. They asked Geddy what he thought of Les trying to do this and Geddy teasingly said he was nuts!
Hopefully they’ll be a big brown beaver sighting?

CHARLIE: interesting how you heard of SJ. Even more so how many of us come to certain music, fascinating really.
I heard if it after reading an article by Michael Chabon in Rolling Stone about his at the time new book Telegraph Ave (which I liked), but in this article he gets into this Soul Jazz that I’d never heard of, and I’ve been into lots of Jazz fir quite some time. It’s hard to pinpoint and like many styles or genres it casts a wide range: from syrupy string laden Mizel brothers productions all the way to more standard Jazz played by more recognizable names. The sweet spot to me is very much like what Merl and Jerry do on say 9/1/74, or the recent GarciaLive Vol 18, or on Fire Up and Heavy Turbulence etc. I like the oft used description of “Jazz with a backbeat”.
I have maybe 2-3 dozen albums but would say these are good ones to start with:
Donald Byrd: Black Bird
Charles Earland: Black Talk and Leaving this Planet with Freddie Hubbard and Joe Henderson
Idris Muhammad: Power of Soul (title track is awesome Hendrix cover), and a (2 for 1) of Black Rhythm Revolution, and Peace & Rhythm.
Deodato: Prelude
Grover Washington Jr.: I like Inner City Blues and Mister Magic the best. Earth Tones off Magic is nice groovy mellow almost new age like? One of my favorites of his. I think Magic is a good first choice. Soul Box is pretty good too. I’d say ya might not like all the tracks on all the albums depending how your pleasure tends, but if you made an 80 minute best of from the three you’d have a super cd. If that helps? But I’d advise anyone interested to check out stuff online first.
There’s a good series of compilations out called the Legends of Acid Jazz that has some good treatments of many of the main cats, like genre guitar go to’ Melvin Sparks, and Leon Spencer, George Benson dabbles around the Soul Jazz edges. Jimmy Smith Back at the Chicken Shack is old school, and Dr Lonnie Smith is another of many keyboard/organists. One of the cool things is how like jazz, so many of the main dudes play on each other’s albums.
Many more but those are good starts.
The cool thing is it’s easy to Segway into things like MMW: End of the World Party and Uninvisble, and even on to the Beastie Boys, yes those Beasties Boys: The In Sound From Way Out and The Mix Up. I think of Curtis/Superfly as another cousin to all this. Herbie Hancock Head Hunters fits too.
To me SJ is like another kind of jazz fusion. Not the scorching Miles or Return To Forever etc, which is more rock like to my ears, but like a funky soul stew of jazz, soul and rock. Perhaps like some Motown cats played jazz?
As I say, sometimes hard to pin point, and certainly not for everyone, but to me it’s like the Garcia/licorice story.
Not everyone will like it, but those who do will love it!

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Still going with Boston Garden '91.

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Herbie Hancock is about the only one of the artists on your list that I have already, Oro. I have Maiden Voyage, Empyrean Isles, Head Hunters, Sextant, Thrust, and Man Child. I find all to be enjoyable.

1973-1974 Jerry and Merle is a sweet spot, lots of soul and jazz influences showing up in their stuff from that time, those Keystone Encores box set shows in particular are phenomenal. And an absolute highlight of the Merle and Jerry Collaborations would be Merle Saunders and Friends CD Fire Up +, that disc is on fire from start to finish, incorporating tunes that are straight soul like Lonely Avenue and Expressway to Your Heart, other stuff that is more jazzy like Save Mother Earth and Man Child, and some funky stuff like My Problems Got Problems and the phenomenal Welcome to the Basement. Merle Saunders, Jerry Garcia, Tom Fogerty, John Kahn and Bill Vitt tear it up. An album well worth tracking down if you don't have it already, just peak Jerry and Merle. CD was Released in 1992 and is includes most of the songs from the 1970s albums Fire Up and Heavy Turbulence, I think.

Another gem is Hooteroll?, a jazz fusion masterpiece from Jerry Garcia and Howard Wales. That is a great album, great to listen to from start to finish, cohesive and gorgeous music.

I think it was something in the air, 'cause there were just a lot of musical styles and genres being mixed together or teased apart into something new during that period from the late '60s to the mid-'70s. Funk flowing out of soul, jazz fusion explorations by a bunch of artists, the emergence of electronica with stuff like I Feel Love, lots of cool stuff all happening in a relatively short fertile time. Musical forms are constantly shifting, blending, and distilling new stuff through time, but that late '60s to mid '70s period seems like a particularly fertile time, especially for the mixing of jazz, soul, funk, blues, and rock and roll into new forms combining elements of each and taking them in new directions.

Brother!
Those were heady times to be sure. The golden age.
How fortunate we are to have so much great music to enjoy all these years later!

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...and now I'll soon have Mister Magic, Black Byrd, a Roy Ayers greatest hits, and Gil Scott Heron's Pieces of a Man, which came up as soul jazz, and which I have thought of grabbing a few times before. Oh, yeah, and Bill Wither's album Still Bill, 'cause I have wanted to pick up the song Use Me for a while, and at $4.99 I couldn't pass it up this time. Checked out the Donald Byrd tune Black Byrd online and liked it enough to take a chance on the rest of the album. I had looked at the other albums before, but just needed a catalyst to get me to follow through and pick them up, you were it Oro.

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"Why Johnny Can't Post"

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I thiiiink someone put something in the frosting...

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For jazz fans looking for something new to check out (Hello, Dennis), Blue Note Records is releasing a new Charles Lloyd box set, called “Trio of Trios”, which features Lloyd in 3 separate trio configurations, including players like the great Bill Frisell and Mickey Hart’s good friend Zakir Hussein. There is a short video with company prez and musical mind Don Was talking up the release with Lloyd, who has an impressive body of work.

Oro- I have really been digging the Dr. Lonnie Smith albums recently. I recently found his albums Boogaloo to Beck and Boogaloo to Beastie Boys, so cool to hear him do sets of covers of these artists. Just that opening track of Beck’s Paper Tiger is worth the price of admission.

I have just noticed that he is performing at Glastonbury Festival later today. He us sharing an hours coverage on the telly with Kacey Musgraves.

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GarciaLive 18
Peter Rowan - Calling you from my mountain
Run C&W - Row vs Wade
Hacienda Brothers - Western soul
Doug Sahm - The return of Wayne Douglas

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Welcome back! Glad that got sorted.

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I always hear Bowie

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tried posting something new a few ago, nada, captcha wasn't showing any pictures to ID, apparently a problem there, here goes again, testing

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Led Zeppelin
How The West Was Won 3CD

The songs on the CD release were taken from 6-25-72 LA Forum and 6-27-72 Long Beach.

Anyone there? Nappy?

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....so are Rush fans. Les called out the Rush peeps and told them that they would do their best to honor it. Apparently it was the final Primus show to feature it. Too bad Primus sucks.
They did a Master Of Puppets thing in the Tommy The Cat thing.
Apologies. Still riding the high.
Crowd was a pretty even mix of older and younger. Male/Female was pretty much 50/50. People grooving. Very nice.
I love concerts. I wore my "Make America Grateful Again" tee. Oh, the looks I get. 😍
Just fired up D'Yer Mak'er in honor of a Zepp reminder.
Rock on.

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I went to the Long Beach Arena show...I was home because I had broken my arm working for the Cal Forestry...what a great break (pun intended) for me...a couple of weeks before the Zep show I saw the Stones at the same arena...I enjoyed the Zep show...the following year for the '73 tour they had worsened considerably with Page's boring bow solos and Bonham's drunken plodding playing...I've never understood the adoration for Bonham's playing...

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Merry-Go Merry-Go Merry-Go Round!!!

Mom....Larry's singing in the shower again!!!

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I thought I remembered that you had gone.
But missed Bowie 72 Santa Monica?

I stopped Led Zep and will finish tomorrow. Hockey on now, uh oh Oro…..

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....I can't believe he's that old. Seems like a spring chicken! Good on you friend.

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....watching the nhl finals muted. Sandanista in the forefront. Then a little TSOL.
Pairs up well.

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The Avs WIN the Stanley Cup!!!!

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I liked about 30% of what Led Zep did. The short sharp rockers, like "Communication Breakdown", " Whole Lotta Love" "Heartbreaker" "Immigrant Song" etc. Where they fell down for me was in the extended soloing, the prog rock leanings, the lumpen drum sound, the baby baby baby vocals....But when they cut it short they were great. Of the longer tracks "When The Levee Breaks" is my favourite.

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