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    One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

    First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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    I’d be Willin’ to buy that.

  • deadfeat1
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    Feat, feat, feat, feat, feat...! I'll be sure to keep my eyes/wallet open for the release. Thanks for the heads up!

    If you have never listened to Phish playing the entire Waiting for Columbus on 10/31/10 it is worth looking for...

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    Attention Feat fans! On 29 July Rhino will release an 8 CD super deluxe edition box set of this classic live album. As well as the original release on 2 CDs, there are 3 more previously unreleased live shows, each on 2 CDs. Google it for more information.

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    Oro - I had to look it up because I had no phucing idea what the weather people were talking about. I’ve never heard the term before, I was just sure it was a tornado (that touched down just north of us), but this was a mother phucer of a storm. Real Wizard of Oz stuff. And I really really love my wife, she is pretty low maintenance and never ever minds when I drag her to shows, even Dylan, but five days of us pretty well just stuck hanging out together with the dog, earned me about 20 Get Out Of Valentines bullshit cards! I’ve done my time. Let’s drop the puck in the game, the needle on the turntable, game on!
    PS - The only bad news about the storm is that it didn’t blow “my buddy Trudeau” off the face of the planet. Still stuck with his Holiness, unfortunately.

    PPS I received the new Bruce Hornsby album today in my batch, but based on his recent output, I’m not expecting a barn burner. I’ll give him props for stretching his limits though, but open mind, I’ll play it this weekend.

  • Oroborous
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    Every little thing…

    Wow, what a game last night!
    The big takeaway is that winners somehow get er done!
    So Colorado Maple Leafs LOL, we shall see. I’m actually nervous today.
    Which AVs team will show up tonight? There’s only two things I can’t stand about sports, well besides the incessant blabber by the announcers: when your team beats itself, or when the league and/or the refs fuck it up.

    Yeah, still can’t get over that third Mackinnon goal. Too bad it was for naught.

    I’m with you Bluecrow, all the years combined. I want it all! There’s 30 beautiful years of Dead, not five, just gotta poke around. Just because a handful of folks here with very specific tastes make the most noise, doesn’t mean there’s not plenty of silent Bobs out there who like something else, no offense intended. Like BC says, if they’d up their release output perhaps they could cover more basses and make more folks happy: the nuts like us will bye it all, and others will purchase the stuff they like from their pleasure zone. Sure you might have to adjust numbers a bit, or gulp, heaven forbid have inventory longer, but I believe overall, cumulatively they’d sell more total units.
    Of course if they’d simply use pre orders to get a feel for demand, they could dial in what they need, and not have overstock OR folks who get bummed because they miss out!
    For example, I bet there’s more folks who didn’t get FMW 69 who wish they had, than actually got a copy? The flip side is the RFK 89 “box”. If they’d have used the pre sale model they wouldn’t have so many left.
    But of course their making plenty of money just the way they are so unfortunately not expecting anything to change : (

    And yaasssss ole HF I’m with you too. As I’ve said repeatedly, don’t understand why they can’t give us a primal box, who cares if 68 shows are only one disc, so what?
    Now I don’t “know” but I’m sure there’s enough great, and usable stuff in the vault to piece together a cool primal box.
    They’ve given us show fragments already from 66, 67, 68 etc and I don’t recall anyone whining.
    Who cares if it’s not a complete show etc, get the best of 66-70 and cobble together a 20 disc box.
    The stronger, longer stuff will compensate for the early raw, fragmented stuff, and like the Dead itself the whole will be greater than the sum of the individual parts!
    Even if there’s only a disc or two of Miscellaneous early stuff, and a few 1 disc shows from 68, plus 2 or 3 killer 69s, and there has to be something good available from 70?
    Perhaps the hangup is they can’t come up with enough Chachki crap to go inside, or how to market 60s style gym socks for Deadvikes etc ; )
    Hers an idea: the first 5K purchases come with a bonus gram of shrooms! 😃Put it all in a hippie crocheted shoulder bag with smileys and flowers on it, yeah, sock it too me baby!

    THATMIKE: WTF, regular blowey going on up there eh? WTF, no power means no hockey! Sacrilege! Forget all the rest, no hockey! I thought you guys had laws against that up there ; ) Cup playoffs they should have called out the Guard or Mounties etc, yer buddy T should have called a national emergency!

    And what’s with all this new fancy terminology? Is it that we’re really experiencing so many things we’ve not in all these decades, or is it that everything has to have some new headline inducing terminology: homeland instead of country, bomb cyclone, Derecho instead of wind storm, shelter in place instead of stay home, legacy instead of old, gently owned instead of used, etc etc. Somedays I turn on the news and think I’m living on another planet these days?
    Well, at least we have the GOGD, a must for when the going gets weird!
    ONWARD!

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    i'm a big tent person and the more the merrier on releases. other than the potentially limiting cash-on-hand-to-spend issue, I'm all for as many releases as they can do. 2 boxes a year for sure. surprise one-offs like that the 2 disc Warfield acoustic or that '72 Texas disc. everything they release will be in the sweet spot for some folks and for others maybe a doorway to a new appreciation. at the time I remarked that the June '76 box was the box set i didn't know i needed and i really really needed it. that was where I finally understood the '76 sound, a year that was largely fly-over for me compared to anything else in the '70s. it has been pretty much dry last few years as to 60s releases. all in for a fresh brain-melt Viola Lee or Caution. and like I rambled on about yesterday - the second night in Seattle in '95 sounded really really good.

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    We finally have power restored in my village of 100,000+ souls after 5 days without. We had something called a Derecho (never heard of it either, may be something more familiar in the traditional Tornado regions like the MidWest) go through. Missed music, hockey, gym, good food, even hot coffee.

    Jack - Don’t worry, the Leafs deserve the shots! But wow, I was stunned the AVs folded in that game, give St Lou props. That McKinnon goal was about the nicest I’ve seen this year. I still hold tight that the AVs will prevail, but you were right about Edmonton.

    Love the chat about mid-70s Dead releases - always the sweet spot for me.

    A little late getting the news, but sorry to see Alan White passed. A girl I worked with saw Lennon’s Live Peace in Toronto show, where he finally went solo, and brought a pick up band including Clapton, and Alan White on drums. She mentioned that Yoko’s “singing” was pretty out there. Polite company calls it “an acquired taste”, but truthful people call it shite.

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    Think limited edition, Bluecrow

    Unlike a DaP, a limited edition compilation of the best of '66-'70 means no one has to buy or listen to it. The later shows you cite easily fit the DaP format. Why not both?

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    ....four goals in 1:11🍿

  • Angry Jack Straw
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    MacKinnon had a career defining game that was wasted by his buds. His third goal left me speechless.

    Yes, Edmonton should take note. Close your opponent out when given the chance. Not to bang on Mike, but blowing a 3-0 lead at home is something you expect from the Leafs, not the AVs.

    Yup, Tampa looks unbeatable right now. The President’s cup winner had no chance.

    You know I have backed the Oilers from the start, so hoping for an Oilers/Lightning final.

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One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

But first: I am truly sorry about losing your father, Bolo. :_(((

You mention bears...Cal? UCLA?

Santa Rosa Slewfoot?

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That Shakedown is fantastic. Mid first set no less. The video and sound quality now available for that first set are gorgeous.

wissinomingdeadhead, I'm with you. To borrow a phrase, "What about 12/1/79?"

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....since Bolo brought it up, why is it that I get dreams after waking up to get a glass of water at 3 AM then falling asleep again aka a nap time?
Got up twice this morning. Had vivid dreams after falling asleep again both times. Involved my sister in one and Teddy Roosevelt in another.
The brain is indeed a mystery.
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And just like that, my sister texted me about our dad. We talked about his appreciation of Simon & Garfunkel.
So I found a record. Wednesday Morning, 3 AM.
The fact that I took a little bit of shrooms today just takes that revelation to a whole nother level.
3 AM.
Edit deux.
There is a Peggy-O on this record. I totally forgot and I love surprises!!
What a record!!
The Times They Are A Changing indeed. Stay strong and stay safe peeps.
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was at Winterland, on 10/20/78, it sounded just like it did on the album Shakedown Street. It's a song that really improved with age. My favorite Shakedown Street was 9/12 /81 at the Greek.

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So glad to hear from you Bolo, but sorry for the trials and tribulations. Yes, did try to call Bolo out a month or so back for an update on the 60s box scheduled to announce soon. Great thing about all BOATs and GOATs, all top contenders on any given day, providing ample most welcome distractions while we wait for the announcement of something that will not release until September. Worked last night as perimeter security for a very large fireworks display, annual event that goes on next to a large lake in a valley between small mountains, very much enhanced by echo and reflections. Spectacular stuff stationed at a prime location. Provided non toxic bug spray, ice water on board a utility cart for viewers, there just to make sure people did not get too close to launch site and smoke plumes from big fireworks, other smoke plumes were up to them. This being Vermont, on private property, no issues, though discretion called for an early edible.

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Now THAT is good security.

And Vguy, I do not know the answer to your question, I'm just glad you didn't dream about Teddy Roosevelt being WITH your sister -- that'd be a toughie to puzzle through and possibly try to unsee...

And while everyone is OD'ing on potato salad and fireworks this weekend, I voluntarily undertook to de-fenestrate and clean my home room-by-room. Why? To get my sheet together... THEN I qualify for a summer weekend with edibles and fungus. Oh, and DYLAN next week in Denver. I'll be the guy with the KN95 on...

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FP - your rec had me realize that I am not familiar with Shakedown from the Hornsby era. Need to fix that.

And that somehow got me thinking about the upcoming box set. A new and completely different theory than I've had before. It's the anniversary of Europe '72. Its my understanding that a reliable source said its multi-year. So. Box set is going to be Europe / British Isles shows from all other years. From Chateau d'Herouville in '71 through the Fall '90 Europe Tour. Throw in some '74 Wall of Sound. Some '81 spring/fall Rainbow Theatre, more fall Europa '81. And, of course, the Rockpalast Essen show 3/28. Good video Chateau d'Herouville and Essen, so those will tie ins. Crazy I know.

And how could I forget about the Melkweg shows??!! Spin those out separate too!!

Maybe Bolo was getting chased by mythical Slew Foot. I think that's a clue from dreamworld for a Summer '69 release. And then VGuy with a Theodore Roosevelt dream. Teddy once refused to shoot a bear on a hunt. That's where the "Teddy Bear" comes from. More bears.

My dog was chilling on the couch
Playin' in the Band...we both blissin'
Seastones comes on
She looks around
Gets off couch and heads upstairs
Lol

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My cat didn't like it either.
And she likes most music.
I think it the part that sounds like a wounded whale that drove her off.
No accounting for taste I guess.
For that matter I hit skip on that too most times.
Cheers and happy Independence Day

Bluecrow-I like that idea - quite a span of years. Maybe start with their first one in Europe - the 5/24/70 show at the Newcastle-Under Lyme festival.

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Damn DaveRock - I forgot about that show! Of course that's part of the box!!

I just now gave that show my full attention

Grrrreat show!!!

Morning Dew!!!

The euphoria when Jerry sings La Bamba!!!

Knockin' on Heaven's Door is sooo sweet

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I like it!!! So with that suggestion (guess) here are my 5 favorite EUR shows that aren't from '72, in chrono order:
5/20/70
9/20/74
3/24/81
10/4/81
10/20/90

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Ja gerne

The two 81 tours...
I know 3/28
One or two others from that month
Not a whole lot else

Yes!

5 24 70
9 20 74
6 21 71
The 81 tours

6 21 71 is the newly found video I bet

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If they did go for a Europe Box, featuring shows from 1970, 1971, 1974, 1981 and 1990 - each show would feature a different line up of the band. Jolly interesting.
It might be a saturated market, but it would also be quite nice to see Bickershaw come out on vinyl

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DaveRock - I hadn't even done the "math" on the band line ups. I think the More Europe box is a pretty cool concept - a time arc of 20 years once you add in the Newcastle show that I overlooked. fantasy box sets - there's a lot of good ones out there.

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A Europe box is certainly a possibility, but I would rather that they release an all Bay Area box set. Shows from the Avalon, Fillmore, Winterland,, Carousel Ballroom, Frost, Greek, Warfield, Orpheum Theatre, S.F. Civic., Oakland Auditorium, Shoreline, that would be a killer box set!

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I say it's from one of the OOPS shows at the Melkweg in 1981. According the Deadheads Taping Addendum both of these shows were recorded for Danish TV.

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That is great news about the filming of OOPS

I did not know that

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I'm holding out hope that there might just be something out there that does not widely circulate. Thinking something from ABCD, Mountain Girl or Bear's secret stash.

If you think about it.. they sporadically bubble up from time to time. If you were Dave, and some came floating into the Vancouver sound on a makeshift raft at some point, wouldn't you time their releases just for the sheer shock and fun factor? I'd really like to think there are some surprises out there yet to be enjoyed.

I don't think I was the only one that thoroughly enjoyed my virgin listen to 7/1/78, am I?

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So Jim did you not buy the box set?
Or if you did how did you manage to save that show until now?
Killer short show! Sometimes those time constraints work to advantage.
Funny, that show is exactly what I was reaching for this AM but got waylaid.
Great minds! Hope to get to it this afternoon.
Cheers to the red, white, and blue and to Willie Nelson.

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Pt.1, 10/15/81 is on YouTube.

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I bought that box the day it was announced, I was just reminiscing about the first listen when it arrived on my front porch. I was thoroughly delighted.. I don't believe any of us had listened to it in that pristine state. The sound quality was soooo goood. The same goes for the bonus Morning Dew at the end of the Swing '77 Dave's Picks from Santa Barbara. That one caught my attention, what a powerful opening to a great song.

I'm just thinking out loud that we might be due for a surprise, assuming there's still some mystery in the vault. Of course I could be wildly mistaken, there hasn't really been anything new in some time.

And we are really due for some 1960's GD, which I know they have in the vault. Makes me think of that Pigpen line.. get your hands out of your pockets, Dave.., quit playing pocket pool and give us some Good Ole 1960's Grateful Dead.

BTK: EXACTLY what I have been hoping for the 60s box, multiple shows from some of those Bay area venues, with whatever they can put together for photos, backstories. Clearly, there's enough to work with, warts and all. Understood, many events had multiple bands, just one or two CDs from the Dead's sets times ten for a 15-20 box. Shall we call it the BAB. Oh great rhinoceros, when does the BAB drop? HF: nothing like Altamont, not a public event, not quite invitation only, can't say anything more. For those in NNE this week, Tedeschi Trucks with Los Lobos this Saturday, July 9 outdoors at Champlain Valley Expo.

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I tell ya, that Bay Area Box. would be a killer!, 1966 - 1995, I m really happy ya got to see Otis Spann, I've seen a lot of great blues players, but not Otis Spann. Back to the bbq, I'll play Best of Muddy Waters, with Spann, Little Walter, the greatest blues band ever.

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Crikey-there's a thought. I seem to have lost a decade somewhere along the line.
That 7/1/78 show still sounds great-especially the first set and the post drums section.

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This is off the rails a bit, but I was watching the Criterion Collection DVD of "Gimme Shelter", and I never knew that the New Riders had played this event. Since this was 12/1969, it was prior to their first studio album. Brief footage of Spencer Dryden on drums while Marmaduke performing "6 Days on the Road". They played before Jefferson Airplane started getting pummeled by the Angels. I highly recommend the OSF NRPS 5-disc set if anyone is interested in the genesis of the Riders. Plus a few great tunes with Bobby singing lead, and Jerry explaining how to play the pedal steel. Priceless stuff.

Use the newly discovered June '68 tapes from the Owsley stash as the centerpiece of a small box of '68 tapes, including the loose ends. While tapes do surface occasionally, I don't see more '68 tapes being discovered, unless there's more in Owsley's unmarked boxes. When Mtn Girl turned over a batch of tapes, Dave L immediately (well, within a year) put out an especially rare single disc that included a Pigpen solo set. So there's precedent for Dave rocking the boat.

And if you like Gram Parsons and the Flying Burritos, there's an out-of-print two-disc release of them live in -- I think -- '68. Recorded by ... Owsley.

Really?......good to know. Thanks for the info. I just assumed it was NRPS due to the song and drummer. Movie never showed who was singing. I must have been smelling too many turbine fumes on the Ohio River during the 2022 Madison Regatta. If anyone wants to see a hydroplane doing a 540 degree flip at 200 mph, check out utoob for the final heat at this years race.

Is the one you speak of with the Pig solo set the one which the show was advertised as "Bobby Ace and the Cards From the Bottom of the Deck & Mickey and the Heartbeats"? I have a 2-LP copy of that with the 4th side solo Pig on guitar.

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HF, funny Gram Parsons should come up. I'm reading an excellent and thorough biography of Gram called "20,000 Roads". As the bio describes his different studio work, I've been listening to each one. After the Burritos, he made two albums for Warner called " GP" and "Desolate Angel" Both are great and feature Emmy Lou Harris singing duets with Gram. Gram hired Elvis's band including James Burton for his back up band for both Warner LP's. Highly recommended.

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Zoinks!

I know the name gram parsons and that he died young
But thats about it

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It's on the way ,The Avalon, Fillmore, Carousel Ballroom , Fillmore West, Winterland,, Greek , Frost, Shoreline,,Warfield Theatre, Orpheum Theatre, Oakland Auditorium, this box set is gonna be a killer. The Bay Area, where it all started!

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....and youtooob this land is your land los lobos with Jerry Garcia & Bob Weir. Copy and paste what I just typed.
Go! Now!

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Not only great in his own right, but also a major influence on The Stones ( among others) during their creative peak-1968-1972. He features as a member of The Stones touring party in Stanley Booth's excellent "True Adventures of The Rolling Stones"-possibly the best book I have ever read on The Stones, and he was photographed at Nellcote during the recording of Exile. I don't think he appears physically on any of The Stones albums from this period, but his spiritual presence is palpable.

The first few Emmylou Harris albums blend nicely with those solo Gram parsons albums, too.

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Rest in Peace and via con dios Sonny. We shared a birthday. I don't know any Hell's Angels anymore, but back in the 70's and early 80's I did, and they were one of the most colorful and courteous people we knew. Scarry, Big and looked a bit like Pig. When he wore his colors, we could not be touched. The Angels got a bad rep and it stayed with them. I think the movie "Gimme Shelter" had a lot to do with that. Jerry once said that Grateful Dead music was for everyone, perceived good or evil. yin and yang. 83 and lost his battle with cancer. Anybody out there got any Hell's Angels stories they would like to share?

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I'd bump into the English variety ( stop laughing at the back) during the 70's from time to time. They didn't seem very threatening to me, I have to say. Not really what you might call match fit. If any of them had picked on me, I always felt that I would have been able to run away from them easily, and they would never have been able to catch me.

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Colo. initiative 58 this fall if the signatures pass the test. Decriminalize possession only I think. Might include spiritual clinics where one (21 and over) could improve their mental wellbeing? Still no sales though at this time. I think Denver decriminalized in 2019.
Never thought I'd live to see the day.
Cheers
Edit: Thx for the tip on the This Land is Your Land!
Had to follow up with Vince Jerry and Bob doing the national anthem. Priceless!

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I don't have a personal story to tell, but for anyone who is interested, Google "Hell's Angels visit Apple Records".
It's quite comical, and they did not behave so well. I'm pretty sure this is Christmas of '69 or thereabouts.
I also have it on good advice from a friend in retail that she had regular "Biker Clubs" visit her store, and she states that they were some of the MOST polite customers she ever had. If one stepped out of line, the leader would inevitably make that person apologize. How about that??

I have no thoughts on the upcoming box announcement, but I would certainly love anything prior to 1971.
If it's later than that, it's just not worth the inevitable "discussion" with my wife about why I have no self control when it comes to music.

I've been listening to 2-3 albums per artist lately, so my last 5 would be:

Gomez
REM
Terry Riley
Pharoah Sanders
Joe Jackson

Music is the Best!!

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Emmy said she learned a lot from harmonizing with Gram, and how to sing without over emotionalizing, so that could influence her first albums after he passed. Also, she hired the same band that Gram used for both his two solo albums, so there could be some similarity and familiarity there.

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a long time ago I met a guy via a dude. The guy (a biker) said his name was "Animal". He showed me the "1% handshake". He said, "It could save your life someday".

I have never forgotten that little tip. I still haven't had to use it, but I keep it in a remote part of my brain, just in case.

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