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One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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May 17, 2022 - 7:58pm

#1051

Vguy72

Joined:
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Traveling Wilburys....

....the OG "power band".
"His reason was spent" - damn Oroboros. I never thought of that lyric that way.
And 1stShow with the Men Without Hats nod. Love it.
I tried a heart emoji there. Are those not permitted either?
May 17, 2022 - 5:01pm

#1052

1stshow70878

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Roy O

Didn't I see a version of that on PBS? Broken up by the usual begging?
The band was all legends.

Do it Dave. It's just not Our House without two cats in the yard.
Cheers
May 17, 2022 - 2:55pm

#1053

daverock

Joined:
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Black and White Show

Dennis - it seems to be available in all sorts of configurations. The one I have is called The Black and White show and has "30" embossed on the cover. It's got a cd and a dvd, with a "secret" bonus post show selection of songs on the dvd and available for download - just 5 alternative versions of songs from the main show. The main show has 19 songs, with Pretty Woman played twice.
I've just played it again to see if it's as good as I remember it. It's not...it's better!

I'm beginning to wonder if I should get a pet, reading some of the posts on here. The last one died about 45 years ago.
May 17, 2022 - 12:36pm

#1054

1stshow70878

Joined:
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Dave L. Has Been On Laguna Seca

A lot on the last few Tapers. Not one I would think of for a box though. Sometimes you just gotta poke around.
Oro, thanks for sharing. Brought back hilarious scenes of my Japanese Bobtail who ruled the dogs. She was likely dumped in our trailer park and knew the whole place. Saw her a couple times by the dumpster and the wife tried to feed her. Eventually she figured out we had cats and did fence top traverses to get on our roof and look in the yard. The rotted overhanging rafter 2x4 broke under her weight and we found her lounging on the homemade cat condo. Decided we were OK I guess. This gorgeous beast had rear legs the size of a large rabbit and would harass the yippy little dogs a few houses away. You could tell she enjoyed it. She'd hear them yipping and jump over the 6 ft. wooden fence and then go and just sit in the middle on the drive right next to their house and stare at them until they went away. Total badass!
Cheers
May 17, 2022 - 11:48am

#1055

proudfoot

Joined:
August 2, 2020

Box

Hopefully something I dont reeeeeally want or need

Anything after 85 meets my definition of that
May 17, 2022 - 11:43am

#1056

Dennis

Joined:
November 1, 2012

Roy O and Dave R

Ok Dave, you made me buy.

I appear to have the original cd. I just bought the re-release of the original cd, which is supposed to be re-editted, re-mastered and redone in general. Has all the songs from the tv show, put back in the order in which the audience heard them.

Hell, it was 14 bucks for a 2 cd set,,,, what the hell.

It was Dave recommended!
May 17, 2022 - 11:00am

#1057

Oroborous

Joined:
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Pets passing

Didn’t want to go here, but so many have shared such personal stories, and got me all choked up, which then makes me think of my dog Iko, which gets me more choked up! He was crazy as a youngin, but eventually turned into a really good, well trained dog.

Got him in fall 82 when he was 6 weeks and just barely old enough to be taken from his mother. I picked him out of the big liter because even at like 3 weeks old, while the others wouldn’t leave momma, he was already wandering off and getting into trouble, hence the name.
Beautiful black lab/husky with white collar, white tips on tail and feet, with cute white nose.
Used to take him everywhere when he was little. Had a nap sack I wore backwards inside my jacket so I could shove him inside when I needed to go into stores etc since I didn’t have a car. On top of all his other wonderful qualities, he was a total chick magnet!
Mom wouldn’t let him in the house, or even look at him because she didn’t want to go through getting attached and then having to endure losing him etc. Eventually she couldn’t help herself, he was allowed in, and they became inseparable!
Anyway, I was constantly moving in and out and increasingly just plain gone a lot. When I moved out west years later he was so used to being there with the folks to give him regular care etc, that we decided it was best for him to stay there. It was hard for me, but best for him.
The sad part was as he approached the end. He had been going downhill fast when I came home for Xmass in 97.
My father said it was like he knew and was waiting for me. The vet had said he wouldn’t make it that long. After I got home, we took him to the vet again and they said that due to various reasons his temperature was so high he was burning up inside, his brain was boiling and his reason was spent.
Said the humane thing to do was put him down, so we made an appointment and did the difficult but right thing.
If only we could show such mercy on our peeps, but I digress.
It was one of the hardest things I’ve ever had to do, but so glad he waited for me to come home and to be with him.
The thing that made me realize it was time, was that he barely touched his dog biscuit/bone. He lived for those milk bone treats, but the last one I gave him he barely touched so I took that as a sign. I still have that milk bone 25+ years later. Sits in my special cabinet with my box sets and other most personal items, including a picture of him and the beer I saluted him with after his passing.
Before, as we waited in the car, I held him and told him what a good boy he was and how much we all loved him, and how sorry I was that I had to leave him when I moved. When it was time, I held him and looked in his eyes while they gave the injection etc. Agonizingly hard, but so glad I was able to be there with/for him, especially since I didn’t get the chance to say goodbye to my childhood dog. Pops took that guy while I was away because he thought it’d be easier. I was so pissed and wasn’t going to let that happen again.
Ok, I’m crying now at a construction site getting funny looks, so what. Perhaps the deepest connection with anyone I’ve ever had!
Like the David Bromberg version of Mr Bojangles, after all these years I still grieve. I try not to think about it too much because for whatever reason it still just crushes me, more than all the other peeps and pets I’ve lost?
There was just something about him. But since you all brought me back to all that, figured I’d share.
Sorry for the Debbie downer.
So on a funnier note: lived with a cat at a friends house, actually several over the year’s. He had one black cat named Sable that was generally not a very nice cat. She used to go around the neighborhood and routinely kick the crap outta all the small dogs, forget about cats!
She and I got along ok because I left her alone, we had an understanding lol. She used to like to hang in my room so she could be left alone. If I went in there, she’d usually just get all hissy and leave, but she never attached me like some folks. People would come over to watch football or whatever, and of course try the usual “hey kitty kitty” and try and pet her etc. She’d have none of that, especially from interlopers, her housemates she tolerated because she had to lol. So after she’d spit and hiss, and tell ‘em to fuck off and leave her be, many folks would shit talk her and call her names etc. well she didn’t appreciate that and was so smart, and vengeful, she’d sit and wait and stew until the offender was probably half in the bag and long since forgotten the cat. So just at the right time, as the clueless offenders hand was dangling beside the chair, she’d strike and boy she could do some damage if you had really pissed her off! We used to warn people, “don’t try to pet, and don’t shit talk the cat” but they usually didn’t listen. After the retribution, we’d have to say, sorry, but we tried to warn ya!
Her favorite thing in life was racing cars. She’d wait on the side of the sorta busy street we were on, and try to run in front of cars at the last second. Pretty crazy but she loved it and was very good until Halloween night one year when she just wasn’t quick enough. Poor guy brought her to the house half dead and all upset. We told him not to worry as hardly anyone would miss her, but it was still sad, even a mean cat is still part of the family, and I never thought she was mean, just wanted to be left alone so we got along fine. In fact I liked her because she was so different!
Ok, sorry, back to your Drumz/space!
May 17, 2022 - 10:46am

#1058

Atron

Joined:
February 19, 2021

DaP42 17772

Lands in the maritimes in record time, on a day off to boot. Bonus disc lead to an enjoyable time (as possible) cleaning the fridge. Digging so far.
May 17, 2022 - 10:36am

#1059

daverock

Joined:
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Only one Big O

Yes, Roy Orbison. There's a great live cd/dvd of him in concert in 1987, called The Black&WhiteNight. 19 incredible songs sung to perfection - and with a stellar band. Not least of which is James Burton on guitar. Highly recommended to music lovers everywhere.
May 17, 2022 - 10:27am

#1060

wissinomingdeadhead

Joined:
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BOX '22

Boston 1991

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One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

Found It!!!

Ordered already !!!

Dave's #43. Great release

My order is in, what a great realease.

MSG Box

Awesome, I’ve been asking for 3-9-81 for years. Hope all the shows get Plangentized.

Cool 80's box

Ordered mine before breakfast! I know everyone isn't into the 80's. Personally I like all the years. Like the St. Louis box, it will be interesting to note changes from year to year, although they may not be as pronounced as the Louis box.

3 10 81

One of the FIRST shows on cassette I ever got.

Well done, PTB. Well done.

:)))

Box Set

I havn't bought it yet, but it looks like a good one. The Dead played great in those years. I'll buy it eventually, I don't believe it will sell out that fast.

Virtually Complete

Sounds like an oxymoron to me, but who cares!! It’s primal 1969, JUST before 1970, which we ALL(well, almost all) have been clamoring for!! I simply CANNOT WAIT to unwrap this and push play!!

Thanks Dave, Music is the Best!!

If this new box doesn't do it for you,

then why bother considering yourself a Deadhead

Why bother?

Why bother considering yourself a Deadhead in the first place? Labels are for jerks. As has been said-music is the best - not all the crap that goes with it.

A mighty flame followeth a tiny spark......

Hey rockers,

I am a major deadhead. Saw shows in the 1981-1983 era. That was then, this is now. The new box does NOTHING for me. So what does that make me? LOL! If others like it, great!

Me, I'm saving my $$$ for next years Banana Box Box Set: Fillmore West February 1970 complete.

Do I have 1968-1972 blinders on? You bet. No apologies, no explanations........

And for all you Pigpen/Lovelight haters out there, remember this: No Pigpen, no Grateful Dead.

Rock on,

Doc
Bee to the blossom, moth to the flame; Each to his passion; what's in a name?

Anniversary show 7/14/84 / Doc. Fillmore West box

38 years ago today I was at the Greek Theatre to see the Dead. I don't remember much about the show because 7/13/84 was what 1984 was all about. Doc, that Fillmore West box sounds fantastic, I believe your right, next year is the year it happens.

Hate's too strong a word

I certainly don't hate Pigpen, but I don't think everything he did was wonderful. Lovelight would have been great to me without the raps. Longer than 15 minutes and it over stayed it's welcome for me . Hard To Handle, on the other hand, was invariably great - all groove and no nonsense.

For Moi

it’s not hate vs love, it’s pure and simple burnout!
I’ve been listening to too much Dead for over 45 years!
Some things I used to love I now have to be in the mood for. It’s that simple.
I won’t list the main culprits Randy cause I’m sure it will incite a shit wind we don’t want or need to blow!
But, for instance, I’d probably be good if I never heard another me & my uncle again lol, but that doesn’t mean that on the right occasion it won’t get me grooving. So it’s not so much the song as it is I’ve just heard it too much (besides the Dead I used to play it in a band EVERY NIGHT, sometimes twice!, for many years).
I’m with Daverock about Dark Star vs LL. Since DS is often more modal and or free form, thus not so repetitive etc, versus LL is basically a blues pattern that they improvise over, it’s just naturally more repetitive. And I love Pig, but his shtick too can be very repetitive and thus get old. Plus I’m not 16 anymore so it doesn’t resonate quite as much. Like it was mind blowing the first times on my teenage peanut brain, but now…
Thus, to me, after all these years, it can sometimes get very tedious listening to something that long and repetitive.
To be clear, this does not mean I don’t like it, I’m just burned out on it, big difference.
And like any song, “Sometimes you get shown the light…”
I only bring this up because I feel like there’s a good contingent out there that feels the same, or not?
And I think sometimes here, like the rest of the world, things just get to damn binary.
I mean we’re all supposed to be DHs on the same team loving the same band. Of course everyone is entitled to their opinions etc, it’s just sometimes the tone used is a bummer.
I liked how Doc gave his strong opinion, but without insulting anyone. It can be done.
But, as stated, that’s just what moi thinks, so probably meaningless lol.
Be Kind! Ain’t no time to hate.

Love and Hate

It's ok to love things others don't, and it's ok to not like things others love. That's the benefit of being free to be you, you can dig what you want and disregard the rest.

As far as dead burnout, if you listen long enough to anything it can get old and stale. Not to mention, there is a ton of great stuff out there that you will miss if you listen to nothing but dead. When I feel like listening to the dead, I dive in and groove, and when I don't, there are hundreds of other choices on the shelf. I do know from past experience, that just because a release doesn't really strike me as fantastic when it is announced, it doesn't mean I won't jones hard for it later if I pass on picking it up, so it's easier to just get nearly everything they release as I rarely have a case of buyers' remorse, but I have had to pay a premium to pick up stuff I passed on when it was first released.

It’s A Thin Line…

…Between Love And Hate, so sayeth the song of that title. I get burned out on bands repeatedly. That’s why I love having a super varied music collection. Burned out on A?? I think I’ll play B, G, or X. I’m seriously impressed at how much Dead some of you folks listen to, I just thrive on variety. So to each their own, that’s why they make chocolate AND vanilla!!

I won’t disparage anyone’s tastes or bands they like/love. I don’t have time for that. And like DAVEROCK says, why do I have to put a label on it?? I play it, love it, and then play something else. The Dead happen to be one of my favorite bands, who I happen to own hundreds of releases by, But damn, I need so much more. Having said that, I am SUPER stoked for #43!!

Music just happens to be the Best!!

Love and Hate

The latter is overrated, the former is precious. Life may be sweeter for this, I don't know...

I do know one thing, we need less hate and more love. Be yourselves but don't get sucked towards the hate magnet. That's about as GD and I can write.

So I know this is off topic …

So I know this is off topic ;D but regarding Dave's Picks... Dave- I'm ever-grateful to get to hear this music but can you PLEASE give us the shows as they were performed instead of mixing them together (#43 is an especially jumbled mess).

Thank you.

What He Said

I also would prefer releases have the show in original sequence, with any bonus content at one end or the other of the main show of the release rather than interspersed throughout. I'd rather pay for an extra disc to keep the sequence intact, rather than to chop it up to fit on three discs. I suspect that this may be the minority view based on past discussions about bonus content and out of sequence songs.

Row 22, Jimmy?

Realizing just now that the illustrious VGuy waltzed right past me last night in row 22 at Red Rocks!

I appreciated his "Make America Grateful Again" t-shirt at the time, he must not have seen my House of Guitars tee or I know he would have stopped for a fist bump!

Next I get to stroll down to the mailbox to pick up DP 43 (no shipping notice, but I got the heads up from my account with USPS- pro tip).

Let the good times roll! And now back to your regularly scheduled Gathering Flowers For The Master's Bouquet...

Dear Dave-

So I've got Your Picks Vol. 43 in my hands and CD player. Cool music.... BUT...

I ask you, sir--is this how YOU listen to these shows? The first 9 songs of 11/2/69, then the 5 songs from 12/26/69, then 4 songs from 11/2, then 11 songs from 12/26??

If yes, then I don't feel you really appreciate the experience of live Dead--how each show is a unique event and piece of musical art, how each show has a rhythm and a story all its own. (This is WHY so many of us spend thousands of dollars buying these very shows on CD when we are content with just getting the best studio releases from other artists we love.)

If this is NOT how you would listen to these shows, and you do enjoy and appreciate listening to a show as it was performed, then you are not really respecting the rest of us who want to listen to the shows in that way but don't have the privilege of access to GD's vaults.

You make great choices of shows-- just let us listen to them as Jerry intended please. It's doable. Every single box set release does it.

Thanks!

‘69 Dead Again

I’m really enjoying this release, some new songs for me…Seasons of my Heart and Gathering Flowers…Plus two more Dark Stars, Yum.
Nice archival newspaper clips about Live Dead.
The sound is great too, big thanks to Owsley for our now-future enjoyment.

Also if coupled with Dave’s Picks 6 we have11/2, 12/20, 12/21, 12/26 1969 and 2/2 1970.
For the song/show playing sequence I’ll quote Jerry from the 11/2 show:-) “this evening is fraught with difficulties, absolutely fraught with difficulties”

Non-GD music

What do these have in common?

Led Zeppelin
Pink Floyd
Moody Blues
Rolling Stones
King Crimson
Motorhead
Sex Pistols
Sweet
ELP
ELO
The Who

Identify the commonality in these artists and you win!

Random gripe

The builders of my townhouse made a slanted roof with planters.

The bar holding them in place at the angle should be held by 10 bolts.

How many bolts did they actually install?

Six.

That leads to pains in the tookess, people.

Dear J3FF

I can't believe people are griping about the song order. There is no reason to waste space on another CD, just to have the songs in order. Add another disc and then a contingency will complain there is only a half hour of music on one CD, and they want bonus tracks. Or that Dark Star / St Stephen / The Eleven was divided over two discs. While cost may be no problem for you, it is for others. Go buy a CD changer and program the tracks in the correct order.

To say Lemieux is disrectful to the fans for this is a gross stretch of reality. It is because he respects rhe fans that he did this. It is easy to see he loves the fans and is eager to get great music to us. And you insult him. That us the problem with your post. Yes you are entitled to your opinion. No you are not entitled to throw accusations and make people feel bad. You owe an apology.

Who hears repeated dropouts…

Who hears repeated dropouts on vocals in this #42 set especially disc 2? (see reports of such on-line elsewhere)?

vocal dropouts

Seem to be a characteristic of 1974 shows. But the funny thing is...it's never Donna who seems to be dropped out. You would think they might wipe some of her triumphant screams off the end of the Playing jams. Blame it on the reels.

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