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    A sealed, unlabeled box sat undisturbed for decades on a shelf in the Grateful Dead’s San Rafael tape vault on Front Street, its contents an enduring mystery, even to those few with access to the vault. All David Lemieux knew about that box when he became the Dead’s archivist was that it contained tapes belonging to Bear—Owsley Stanley, the Dead’s first soundman and architect of the Wall of Sound. Even in the Dead Heads’ Holy of Holies, the taped-up box was tantalizing. But this was Bear’s personal property, and so he didn’t touch the box out of an abiding respect for the elder luminary of sound. Bear’s archive of Sonic Journal recordings had been kept safe for him for years within the Grateful Dead’s vault—over 1,300 reels of tape stored in heavy-duty cartons like old banana boxes. At any time, David could have popped the tops and explored them to his archivist heart's content. But they were off-limits without the nod from Bear. - Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell, Owsley Stanley Foundation

     

    With a wink and a nod from Bear, we've peeled back those banana boxes to find some of the oldest and rarest of all recordings of the Dead including the double dose of shows that make up DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43. The two virtually complete performances from San Francisco 11/2/69, Live At Family Dog At The Great Highway, and from Dallas 12/26/69, McFarlin Auditorium, are complementary in their clarity and consistency thanks to Bear himself, and in their ability to foreshadow where the Dead were headed in the years to come. If the two killer 20-minute+ "Dark Stars" don't get ya, how about the Pigpen-centric sets featuring "Midnight Hour," "Next Time You See Me," "Big Boss Man," "Good Lovin'," and the once-lost-now-found complete rendition of "Dancing In The Streets," or the first full acoustic set ever performed? And we're certain you'll be fascinated to uncover the "Mystery Of Bear's Banana Boxes" as told by Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell in the liners.

     

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43 was recorded by Owlsey "Bear" Stanley and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

     

    *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • #731
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    Reading the comments on 3 or 4 CDs with a bit of amusement, sorry. If possible you should all be listening to these shows digitally . Long story short I replaced my 2012 Ram stereo this year and to find a car radio with a CD player and android auto and Ipod usable was really hard, especially with the supply chain covid issues so I opted for one without a CD player and although a bit of a pain in the neck I downloaded the CDs to my phone then played it in the car. That stereo malfunctioned rather quickly and I was able to replace it with one that had all the functions and a CD player. After all that I did an experiment and played a CD and then played the same show on Android auto on my phone and the difference was astounding! The digital version sounded so much better and clearer and I felt a little foolish insisting I get a stereo with a CD player since I haven't listened to one since! I know it's a bit time consuming but if you download the CD and then arrange the songs in the proper order on your device, which is what I believe Dave and Rhino believe most people do, there is no issue with the order the songs are on the CDs.
    Just my humble opinion. Thanks

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    Nick1234 - yes, that's taking the biscuit. I have never actually read the Gormenghast Trilogy..just never got round to it. Maybe it would be a good companion for these darkening days - although I am 52 years older now than you were when you first read it.

    Dicks Picks 12 spinning this very minute-that's 6/26/74 and 6/28/74 highlights. Brilliant music - but case in point - I played the 1st cd last night, from 6/26/74, and opened today with the second disc from 6/28/74. Or so I thought-after a great "Eyes", Phil says "see you Friday night." Oh. I thought this WAS Friday night.

    Incidentally, I always enjoy discussions - exploring subjects I am interested in with other people who are similarly interested. Arguing is a different matter-that's just someone trying to convince you they are right all the time. You can't really talk with people like that unless you agree with them. Or pretend to.

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    Have you seen the Folio Society issue of Mervyn Peake's Gormenghast trilogy advertised? I was slightly interested until I saw the price, £745 !!!! I still have my Penguin paperbacks housed in a card slipcase that I bought when I was about 13 in 1973. Absolutely enthralled me then and i still love that world. I did my first acid about a year later and found myself somewhere that felt very familiar and of course it was how I had always imagined Gormenghast to be. But £745 for three books?

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    ....this Saturday Night. $3 on Fandango. No. Brainer.
    "You're gonna need a bigger Dave's."

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    I believe that That's What Love Will Make You Do is originally by Little Milton, and what a cool version it is.

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    ....fine. I'm tapping out.
    Twas a fun discussion regarding flow. I'll take it.

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    Bonnie came out first and played, then Garcia came out and played, then Bonnie joined Garcia for
    A few songs.

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    Laughing my ass off reading these posts.

    Everybody just relax man we have you all night long...

    Love Dave's Picks 43. An instant classic, just add jello.

    ...as for breathing walls, circa 1982 side 4 Electric Ladyland at high volume. Not only did the walls breathe, but they got very large and me small at the same time. I thought it best to leave the room and go outside until I could make sense of it all. Perhaps the best decision I made that night.

    It's good to hear all these years later that I am not alone. Walls that breathe. Haa. Whew, mystery solved.

    BTK, what I would give to have been at those Eel shows... ah, well, thankful for the ones I caught, wishful for the ones I missed.

    As you were.. let me know when you get the song order thingie fixed.

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    That US Blues is from the 90's release before that didn't fit. I look at it like old traders putting some extras on some bonus stuff for the weary...just because why not more GD. Really digging the Bobby Weir/Wolf Bros stuff, plus the Anthrax XL just noticed dug a few tracks off that always like ' keep it in the family.' Track order I didn't even notice on DaP #42 that Johnny b Goode and we bid you goodnight was on the second disc until...not sure? Didn't bother me, I just think to myself maybe they felt like coming back out for a long encore (disk 3). As for Dap #43 they could've hit random placement of songs with this (maybe not that extreme but you get it)and still wouldn't have mattered I listen to as is, and for this one I just think maybe I may have bogarted that j (digging some Little Feat today) and don't know what's going on anyhow. Hehe to me when its double 1969 gold blowing me up and suddenly disk 3 has the nerve to have everything it has but High Time, and Dark Star>New Speedway Boogie. YES! So my two cents that matters not is that we don't ask for more ways to increase pricing the current format is ok, like others mentioned with surprise 4th disks nice probably not always needed, just put whatever is left off on the next one that has time/space. My music varies favorites right now include Nick Cave, The National, Lord Huron, Been doing Beach Boys, Also listened to Zabriske Pointe SDtk today good stuff,. Plus not sure who mentioned the Garcia Bonnie Raitt show? Playing together or separate? Wow would've loved that. Also Traveling Wibury's that first album hits a couple spots hearing GH and RO to the end of the line. Everyone have a Grate Evening.

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    It must not be too big a problem to add a fourth disc to a release because they had four discs in both Dave's 36 and 40, which to be clear, I appreciated. I thought it was a sign that the folks at dead net and rhino are not just looking to maximize profits at the expense of customer satisfaction, but are willing to throw us a cool surprise now and again, on top of providing us with historic recordings that I still can't actually believe are being released in such quantities. We are, after all, kind of a niche market, and while I'm sure dead net and rhino are making a nice chunk of change off of these releases, I hardly think that we're all essential to their bottom line, pretty sure Warner and rhino will be just fine without us.

    I would fall in the group that would prefer to pay a couple of dollars more for the subscription to include a fourth disc for one or more of the quarterly releases. Whey I pay for a disc, I just want to drop it in the player and play it, not program something every time to get it in the right order or burn it to a new disc to accomplish the same thing. Sorry if that just leaves anyone distressed or offended. Personally, I hear the arguments in favor of more music despite the disruption to the original song order and I see the merit of the argument, but I just have different priorities. And really, I just don't care enough to get upset that some of you folks prioritize the quantity of music over the actual sequence from the show. I enjoyed Dave's 43 a lot, I would have preferred it all to be in the right order - these statements are not mutually exclusive.

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A sealed, unlabeled box sat undisturbed for decades on a shelf in the Grateful Dead’s San Rafael tape vault on Front Street, its contents an enduring mystery, even to those few with access to the vault. All David Lemieux knew about that box when he became the Dead’s archivist was that it contained tapes belonging to Bear—Owsley Stanley, the Dead’s first soundman and architect of the Wall of Sound. Even in the Dead Heads’ Holy of Holies, the taped-up box was tantalizing. But this was Bear’s personal property, and so he didn’t touch the box out of an abiding respect for the elder luminary of sound. Bear’s archive of Sonic Journal recordings had been kept safe for him for years within the Grateful Dead’s vault—over 1,300 reels of tape stored in heavy-duty cartons like old banana boxes. At any time, David could have popped the tops and explored them to his archivist heart's content. But they were off-limits without the nod from Bear. - Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell, Owsley Stanley Foundation

 

With a wink and a nod from Bear, we've peeled back those banana boxes to find some of the oldest and rarest of all recordings of the Dead including the double dose of shows that make up DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43. The two virtually complete performances from San Francisco 11/2/69, Live At Family Dog At The Great Highway, and from Dallas 12/26/69, McFarlin Auditorium, are complementary in their clarity and consistency thanks to Bear himself, and in their ability to foreshadow where the Dead were headed in the years to come. If the two killer 20-minute+ "Dark Stars" don't get ya, how about the Pigpen-centric sets featuring "Midnight Hour," "Next Time You See Me," "Big Boss Man," "Good Lovin'," and the once-lost-now-found complete rendition of "Dancing In The Streets," or the first full acoustic set ever performed? And we're certain you'll be fascinated to uncover the "Mystery Of Bear's Banana Boxes" as told by Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell in the liners.

 

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43 was recorded by Owlsey "Bear" Stanley and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

 

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Submitted by dmcvt on Wed, 07/13/2022 - 09:44

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the elation for this and for hints at what else remains in the vault.

Just what the doc ordered!

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Wed, 07/13/2022 - 09:44

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fans got their wish.
2 Dark Stars and plenty-o-pig.
Sounds good to me!
Cheers

Edit: Non-subscribers (Daverock?) better jump on this fast. Certainly one that will sell out in a day.
1300 Owsley reels in the vault did it say? A HUGE virtually untapped source.

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Submitted by bigbrownie on Wed, 07/13/2022 - 09:55

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I like Owsley's technique. That'll do, Pig.

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Submitted by billy the kiddd on Wed, 07/13/2022 - 10:18

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just what I wanted. 2 shows from1969,. Thanks Dave, keep them comming.

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Submitted by That Mike on Wed, 07/13/2022 - 10:20

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Dave - You had us at Pig. A real nice release, and Owsley sound, too! (Blushing)

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Wed, 07/13/2022 - 10:49

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It took 8 years, but I finally guessed the right shows. Nevermind that I included the Boston Tea Party trio.

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Wed, 07/13/2022 - 10:50

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I'll take this one, thank you very much!!

Oro, you either get primal or you get Pig. I'm very pleased with this one. Did not see that coming.

Woo-hoo!

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Submitted by bluecrow on Wed, 07/13/2022 - 10:51

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Sweet release for DaP43!

"With a wink and a nod from Bear, we've peeled back those banana boxes to find some of the oldest and rarest of all recordings of the Dead including the double dose of shows that make up DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43."

just want to highlight ". . . some of the oldest and rarest of all recordings of the Dead including . . ."

pray tell what other mysteries are there in the banana boxes?? to be continued.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 07/13/2022 - 11:09

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I think Dave was worried about a riot.. we forced his hand on this one.

I'm looking much more forward to this than the box set. No offense meant.. but this looks sweet to me.

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Submitted by Crow Told Me on Wed, 07/13/2022 - 11:11

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Beyond stoked about this DaP. There doesn't seem to be a track listing yet, but given the description (not one but TWO 20-minute-plus Dark Stars, AND plenty of Pig?) this promises to be epic. Audio quality is likely to be outstanding, given that it was recorded by Bear and evidently stored in a banana box for 50+ years.

Wonder what else is in those banana boxes? Guys, if you find any blue tablets, you should probably forward them to me for safe disposal.

The MSG box? Not sure I need 17 discs worth of '80s, so I'll probably just go for the breakout set from 3/9/81. I have to admit, this release makes me a little sad, because it makes me think that now it's going to be years, maybe longer, before they do the Berkeley Greek 1980s box some of us have been longing for. Can't see 'em doing two venue-centric '80s boxes in close succession.

And just btw: don't get Covid, if you can help it. Went on a business trip (got to go to NOLA, at least), came home and got sick. Despite being vaxed and boosted, it was sucky week. Not the end of the world, but pretty sucky. I mention this in the hope that it'll encourage others to be vaxed and be careful: that fucking virus is still out there. Be well.

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Submitted by wissinomingdeadhead on Wed, 07/13/2022 - 11:15

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Its so good to be wrong!!!!!! I thought for sure Dave would venture into the 80's the 60's are not the 80's. By the way I'm digging the gray hoodie, very understated.

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Submitted by WokeUpDead on Wed, 07/13/2022 - 11:19

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I had jumped off of the subscription bandwagon almost as soon as I got on, after the disappointing DaP31. This year I reluctantly hopped on again because I liked the Baltimore show and absolutely salivated over the Winterland ‘74 with bonus disk. I was resigned to getting a throwaway ‘80s show this time around. Nope. I am virtually in tears as I type this, and best of all I have no worries of this one selling out because it’s already been ordered. It’s a beautiful day.

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Submitted by SPACEBROTHER on Wed, 07/13/2022 - 11:31

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I haven't browsed Deadbase yet to see if these shows are listed or the setlists, which I imagine are similar to others from the era. I also wonder if having been stored in sealed boxes all these years if they are uncirculated? That's always a nice surprise.

I'm a lifetime subscriber since the beginning. Glad to see Dave mixing it up.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 07/13/2022 - 11:43

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The sound on the archive is good.. assuming Latvala took a little peeksy into the banana boxes and shared. I'd still like to take partial credit for guessing Dave's 43 would be sourced using returned reels from the late 60's. I think I posted something to that effect a week or two ago.

Very glad to see these shows come to light. They seem to be very special, at least to these ears.

Enjoy people.. This one goes out to Hendrix Freak.. if there's a more enthusiastic 60's and fall 1972 person out there.. I'd like to buy her/him a drink and shake their hand.

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Submitted by Forensicdoceleven on Wed, 07/13/2022 - 11:52

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Jim!!

That would be me. Strong coffee will do, looking forward to the handshake...........

Did anybody think my obsession was limited to 1971?!! OMFW!!!

The dice of Zeus always fall luckily.

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Submitted by wissinomingdeadhead on Wed, 07/13/2022 - 12:00

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11/2 does not circulate, no set list
12/26 Circulates, Zephyr opened-acoustic set without Bill

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Submitted by bluecrow on Wed, 07/13/2022 - 12:08

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not in Deadbase but SBD source of 11/2/69 is on relisten

not that i've heard it. includes a "classic suite" DS > SS > 11 > DDHNM

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 07/13/2022 - 12:12

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Strong Coffee I've got! Doc you are equally enthusiastic of the old stuff. Check your PM.

As for 11/2, it looks like a copy of this was seeded to the Archive back in 2004 and a more complete version appeared in 2009.. so someone had them. I'm going to head to the attic right now and see what's in all the banana boxes stashed in the corner.

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Submitted by diw on Wed, 07/13/2022 - 12:41

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Who is the 4 fingered gal on the cover? Interesting that they did not go for a female skeleton.

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Submitted by Sydney Prentice on Wed, 07/13/2022 - 13:03

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This is great news Dave,its going to be well worth the wait, none of us are getting any younger,I'm looking forward to having this in my grubby little mitts in August.

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Submitted by alvarhanso on Wed, 07/13/2022 - 14:34

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I'm a big fan of DaP 6 12/20/69 and 2/2/70 with 12/21/69 bonus disc with its two Dark Stars, DaP 30 1/2-3/70 with its great setlists capped off by that massive Dark Star> St Stephen> The Eleven> Lovelight, and DaP 10 12/12/69 and bonus from 12/11/69 scratches a similar itch, but I gravitate to the bonus disc for the whole Dark Star> St Stephen> The Eleven> Cumberland Blues, That's It For The Other One> Cosmic Charlie, because that's just fantastic. And now we add these two shows to that collection. Nonplussed on the box, but I reckon I'll likely get it sometime prior to release. The setlists are quite good, and only one Little Red Rooster.

Just listened to the Little Sadie and High Time in the Listening Party on my tablet speakers, and quite liked it. Jerry is in fine fettle.

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Submitted by Mr. Ones on Wed, 07/13/2022 - 14:35

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Sounds like an oxymoron to me, but who cares!! It’s primal 1969, JUST before 1970, which we ALL(well, almost all) have been clamoring for!! I simply CANNOT WAIT to unwrap this and push play!!

Thanks Dave, Music is the Best!!

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Submitted by cheyler196 on Wed, 07/13/2022 - 14:48

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I will take a GD sbd from the '60s ANY day of the week, and the Dallas show has long been one of my favorites. I'm VERY glad that it's being released and that 11-2 show is no slouch although I've never heard it complete and never in this kind of sound quality either. I'm very happy these shows were chosen, can't wait to get my hands (and ears) on them. Thanks once again to Dave, Dick, Bear and the whole GD family.

Jeffrey Norman works for the GD and also the OSF, which has been digitizing Bear's 1300 reels. OSF is about two-thirds done with digitizing so possibly ~400 reels to go. Probably that's what Norman was doing.

Meanwhile, only weeks to go until two unique '69 shows are in our hands.

I'll have to quiet down for a while about NINETY SIXTY-EIGHT, just because Dave gave us a nice dose of late '69.

Heh heh heh... we don't need any contests here, this whole crowd is foaming at the mouth for this release. Jim, you sure know how to get folks riled up. (What the hell are "banana boxes"?)

In fact, the good doctor and I had often discussed how early, short shows shouldn't stop Dave from putting two together to meet the DaP three-disc rule. Here we are.

A good shout out to all who made the past couple months on this forum worthwhile with good discussions of literatue and music. I only have about 7-8 books to read and tall stack of CDs to listen to, as a result.

And thanks to Dave L. for an inspired choice. (I'm getting the 3-9-81 show and leaving the box alone, but sure wish I can get my hands on 3-10-81 at some point...)

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Submitted by TJPD2 on Wed, 07/13/2022 - 15:14

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Its about time, one worth opening.

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Submitted by dmcvt on Wed, 07/13/2022 - 15:40

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ask any supermarket for them, very sturdy, heavy duty cardboard, great for storage. Not entirely closed, usually an opening at top and bottom. Check recent shipments for tarantula hitchhikers. Shucks, no release listening party for the 60s bunch at Jim's bear battered beer caches?

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Submitted by Obeah on Wed, 07/13/2022 - 16:06

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Oh myyyyy! I don't post very often here, but I've been watching the discussion/speculation on DP 43 for months. I figured DP43 would be 1980s for sure (hello, box set) and in that regards I was hoping for a 1985 release. I didn't dare hope for '68-'69. I'm glad to be wrong!

I've never heard either of these shows - super excited for this release. I keep various Fall '69 rips in my car - 10/25, Dick's Picks 16, the DaP 6 Bonus Disc - so it's going to be nice to change things up. This time I even went and bought an extra copy so that I can wow somebody who will only realize what they've missed out on when they are sitting in my passenger seat. That's ~$40 well-spent. @Dave thanks buddy, this kinda drop is what keeps me subscribing year after year.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Wed, 07/13/2022 - 17:07

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totally awesome

Daves in a (banana) box

loooooove it

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Submitted by bolo24 on Wed, 07/13/2022 - 17:56

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Didn't know about the Dallas show. Double 1969 goodness - how sweet it is!

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Submitted by bigbrownie on Wed, 07/13/2022 - 17:58

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What I have:
Cold Rain
Midnight Hour
Seasons (this song is unknown to me, a first)
Mama Tried
Next Time You See Me
Good Lovin'
Big Boss Man
Casey Jones
Dancin'
Dark Star>St. Stephen>The Eleven>Death Don't

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Submitted by bigbrownie on Wed, 07/13/2022 - 18:03

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I have this one archived in my cassette collection. Saw many shows at this venue. Great acoustics.

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Submitted by alvarhanso on Wed, 07/13/2022 - 19:56

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Just looked up the setlists for these and saw Dave for once way undersold the length of the two Dark Stars, one 30, the other 24! Nice. But how about I've Been All Around This World? Always loved it from hearing the Garcia Grisman version, so stoked to see it's on here wih Little Sadie. Such a treat to hear Jerry sing these in such a strong voice. Now to avoid listening to the whole shows for three more weeks...

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Submitted by sladeums on Wed, 07/13/2022 - 23:18

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I know it makes me not a ‘head’
But no

Pig’s “white boy blues” makes wants me want to barf every time.
Hahaha i hear him open his mouth and it’s like I want to jump off a cliff

I hear somebody brag about a “half hour Lovelight” ?
Thanks, I know exactly what show to skip. 

Seriously no

ughhhh

We can all jam and no despite I hate it I’m not selling to at cost hahahah

There are people out there.

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Submitted by direwulf on Thu, 07/14/2022 - 02:48

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...deadhead but certainly a fool of high caliber. I agree with the Lovelights...sometimes, but damn take that tone and put it in the garbage where it belongs. The provenance alone of these tapes is enough to get my brain drooling and my ears lubed up.

Looks like they've reconnected the modem at the asylum. Nurse Ratchet must be on her first vacation in a few decades. 😬

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Submitted by onthebussince77 on Thu, 07/14/2022 - 02:53

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For those of you wondering why artist Matt J. Adams included her, have a look at the cover of "Live/Dead".

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Thu, 07/14/2022 - 03:53

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…Oh Boy! 2 (two) “Primo” Primal Dead performances in one release (Pick)
“There’s Nothen left to do but Smile Smile Smile!” I’m as happy as a Pig in Mud! Lol ! 🤠
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