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    A sealed, unlabeled box sat undisturbed for decades on a shelf in the Grateful Dead’s San Rafael tape vault on Front Street, its contents an enduring mystery, even to those few with access to the vault. All David Lemieux knew about that box when he became the Dead’s archivist was that it contained tapes belonging to Bear—Owsley Stanley, the Dead’s first soundman and architect of the Wall of Sound. Even in the Dead Heads’ Holy of Holies, the taped-up box was tantalizing. But this was Bear’s personal property, and so he didn’t touch the box out of an abiding respect for the elder luminary of sound. Bear’s archive of Sonic Journal recordings had been kept safe for him for years within the Grateful Dead’s vault—over 1,300 reels of tape stored in heavy-duty cartons like old banana boxes. At any time, David could have popped the tops and explored them to his archivist heart's content. But they were off-limits without the nod from Bear. - Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell, Owsley Stanley Foundation

     

    With a wink and a nod from Bear, we've peeled back those banana boxes to find some of the oldest and rarest of all recordings of the Dead including the double dose of shows that make up DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43. The two virtually complete performances from San Francisco 11/2/69, Live At Family Dog At The Great Highway, and from Dallas 12/26/69, McFarlin Auditorium, are complementary in their clarity and consistency thanks to Bear himself, and in their ability to foreshadow where the Dead were headed in the years to come. If the two killer 20-minute+ "Dark Stars" don't get ya, how about the Pigpen-centric sets featuring "Midnight Hour," "Next Time You See Me," "Big Boss Man," "Good Lovin'," and the once-lost-now-found complete rendition of "Dancing In The Streets," or the first full acoustic set ever performed? And we're certain you'll be fascinated to uncover the "Mystery Of Bear's Banana Boxes" as told by Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell in the liners.

     

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43 was recorded by Owlsey "Bear" Stanley and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

     

    *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • #1121
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    Mister Mickey Hart brings it....

    ....always has. It's on Spotify and I'm digging it. Tiding me over, which brings me to my next point....
    I haven't gotten it yet either Mr. Ones. All good things in all good times. We're both are looking forward and it seems we're in the same boat. Our friends here seem to approve of it. Good enough for us!

  • #1122
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    Hey, has anyone got this one yet?? I’m super excited to hear it!!
    You know, I’m usually one of the last to get these, even later than some of our Euro friends, but damn, I’m really starting to wonder how much longer. I know, I preach patience, and I’ve been patient, but Damn!!

    Music is the Best, even when you have to wait for it!!

  • #1123
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    MacOro - First off, a great tutorial on speaker placement and room alignment. Excellent, and I kept a copy of it. I’ve said it before: You know you’re stuff!
    Next, the jazz - great news you loved it! Welcome aboard. It gets under your skin, and before you know it, you are chasing those hard to get Blue Note classics from the 50s, or checking out European jazz on the ECM label. This all circles back to the Dead - their open minded ethos is a big reason I got into jazz.

    Unrelated, but for those who cannot get enough Dead literature or Europe 72, I see author Howard Weiner, who writes frequently on the Dead, and has published a couple of lightweight (IMHO) but ok books on them, has a new one out - Europe 72 Revisited.

    About seven sleeps until I see Emmylou.

    I received the new live Neil Young CD and the new Mickey Hart on Friday, still untouched, that kind of weekend. But on deck, for sure!

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    Oh, speaking of ridiculously sounding new recordings: Mickeys latest with Planet Drum In The Groove is a hi fi wet dream! As per youssh, our illustrious Mr Hart has provided superior aural magic and kinda in your face grooves. In a good way, as compared to say the more new age stuff (some of my fav!) I was hitting over 100db without breaking a sweat. Started freaking myself out, I could have gone louder but I was afraid I’d piss my neighbor off lol.
    This phenomena has never been experienced before. Usually my room modes make things too much for clean, intelligible volume at more than 95 DB or so. You can say what you like about Micks role in the Dead etc, but that mofo knows how to produce audio nirvana! Kudos to you good Sir!

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    Yeah Charlie I don’t get it either, maybe that’s why I’m a geek!
    I think it’s just generational/cultural. The lure of convenience and suddenly being able to take huge collections anywhere (relative to the time) at a time when radio could be argued had completely been ravaged by greed/commerce. So I think at first people noticed the aural differences but for the majority it was a trade off worth taking, for the previously unimagined convenience, and then add to that what a “trend” this was and well…
    But the problem to me was when it got even more convenient I.e., phones, and another generation came along that only ever knew this new, but horrible aural spectrum and it’s like any of the other fine things in life. If your not given proper exposure, you might not get it? I probably wouldn’t know a expensive wine from a just good one because that’s not my thing: I haven’t been exposed. As you mention Charlie, when given the opportunity to experience the music they already know well, but on even a modest step up in quality, they could appreciate it.
    I guess it’s that too: quantity versus quality. Like BITD I bet most folks had decent, but modest collections by todays standards (I’m looking at you Dennis ; ) but we KNEW, we KNEW the music we did have! How many of us now have so many shows we have only heard many once, and gulp, some never (I’m still working my way through Boxilla)
    I with you, from an early age I wanted a stereo. I worked so hard landscaping in the summer and snow blowing in the winter for all the older folks in the hood when I was young just so I could feed that Jones!
    Even as I got older, I didn’t even have a car, but I always had a good stereo and musical equipment!
    No mater how poor, best gear I could wrangle, cus good gear will get ya through times of no money better than lots of things!

    JIM/DaP 43: only once through, so not ready to “review”, but I can’t help but add to your insight with, holy pha king sheet what a amazing recording!! (Gets the Eddie Van Halen unusual dbl exclamation) When you consider he was first and foremost probably tripping hard much of the time (yas yas tolerance build up, but still) and mixing the band live when equipment sucked and often the venues etc, it’s damn near spiritual how fucking good these Bear recordings are, “please sir, may I have some more”?
    Yasss, amigo, what is in those boxes!!

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    Great vibes on this thread lately folks.. many thanks to all.

    I'm just starting my second listen to 43 as I write this. Man.. this one is special. Great performances, great sound and although these shows did widely circulate, this one has a rarity aspect to it.. It might not be as out there as 11/8/69 but I really rank it right up, in fact I think it's better.

    Also, I think there is something to the sealed Banana boxes.. how many were there? Like I wrote after my first listen.. This has a Bears Choice feeling. Also, Bears Choice was called "History of the Grateful Dead, Volume One (Bear's Choice)."

    Volume 1 of 1???

    To those that rename these (thinking of you KeithFan), Bear's Choice Volume 2 rolls right off the tongue. So my question is... how many freaking Banana Boxes are there Lemieux? We need to start a new Bear's Choice series. Brought to you by the person who coined the phrase Boxzilla.. it's better marketing for these highly special, ancient Bear recordings left to age like fine wine in Banana Boxes.

    That's all I've got.. back the previously scheduled technical workshop on Wall of Sound, home version.

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    Oro, nice write up, my equilateral triangle is set up just about perfect according to your guidelines, which were also the same as the guidelines provided by the speaker company. Even have the first reflection point situation covered pretty good, and I can verify that the sound changed in my living room after we got a large area rug a few months ago in front of the speakers where the area was previously just bare laminate floor.

    Dennis, I was thinking similar thoughts about my kids and nephews, ranging in age from late teens to young adult, and their lack of any music collection outside of whatever they stream. Seems like it is more and more common that people don't have any actual collection beyond access to a streaming service or satellite radio. And honestly, streaming seems more limited to me than the radio. When you listen to the radio, the radio plays whatever is on the playlist and it may have nothing to do with your likes and dislikes, so you get exposed to new stuff you might not seek out on your own. With streaming, it seems like it is set up to select songs that are similar to songs the algorithm knows that you like, so it seems like you would get a narrower slice of available music, and would decrease the chance of some serendipitous discovery of something new and different. Also, none of my kids or nephews seem to give much thought to what they are listening on, which often seems to be a phone or earbuds hooked to a phone. I finally got my kids each a small bluetooth speaker to connect to the phone and they agreed that it sounds better than the phone alone, but I doubt they would have picked it up on their own. Just seems odd to me as I started jonesing hard for a stereo system in like 6th grade when I first started buying records and collecting music.

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    In a Word: AWESOME! Obviously some things resonate more than others. I’ve been meaning to, but just don’t have much time lately. But I’ll try and give ya tge quick and dirty…

    Keith Jarrett - Koln Concert: Nice surprise, perfect mellow piano vibe. Other one approved!

    Hank Mobley - Soul Station: Awesome! OO approved!

    Night Train - Oscar Peterson Trio: Awesome. OO approved.

    Christian McBride (& Inside Straight) - Live at Village Vanguard: holy crap Batman, this one’s been the one, the biggest surprise and perhaps fav (so far lol). Warrren Wolf is da man! Good vibes, both literally and figuratively lol.

    Wyton Kelly Trio w/Wes Montgomery- Smokin at the Halfnote- indeed, the name says it all. Complements what I already had by WM nicely.

    Tito Puente - King of Kings: always felt I should have some Tito and this one shows up on a lot of those “lists”. Good stuff, great fir FAC vib. Niche stuff might not get played a ton, but when the situation calls for it, iiieeeeeeEEE!

    Pharaoh Sanders - Karma: haven’t got to this one yet. Think it might be too out for the OO, so need to find right alone time?

    SUN RA - Easy Listening for Intergalactic Travel: same as above ?

    MONKS DREAM: seen on many lists like the above so figured it would round out what I have. Need more time with this one but think I was surprised that it wasn’t too boppy? I used to listen to mostly bop and fusion but over the years I have to be in the mood. Mostly because that music is so demanding and takes real listening which unfortunately is getting harder for me to do.

    I didn’t listen to much mellow stuff, but now it’s my preferred, what I call “heroin Jazz” my best example of this is probably soundtrack to the cool film Round Midnight starring the great Dexter Gordon! Bill Evans too, pull a few tubes, and this music just eliminates all my stress!

    MINGUS AT CARNEGIE HALL: great album but I probably won’t spin it as much (see above about bop) but magnificent playing none the less. The Seattle Live Train that I got last winter same thing: awesome, but perhaps not for everyday normal spins?

    GRANT GREEN - IDLE MOMENTS: another cool surprise. I don’t think I was aware of Mr Green, and thought he was a pianist lol, but what a smooth player and a great album. Think this one will get lots of spins especially since it’s OO approved lol. In fact, she dug all except a couple of the hardest things.

    Oh, and last but not certainly least, GETZ/GILBERTO: another holy crap situation! Only heard once so far but wow wow as Jim would say. Pairs nicely with Melody Gardot - The Absence, and My One and Only. Funny, my music servers maker loaded some hi res albums on my machine when he built it, or he’ll add some stuff when it’s getting fixed etc, and so it’s been on there for years but I never checked it out until this winter, yet another cool surprise, cool mood music!
    I got there because I discovered Nora Jones, (more I had but did not know) this past year and man, I need more! Any suggestions? (We have Day Breaks, Feels Like Home, and FAC fav so far: Come Away With Me) Need More!
    She also in turn got me at least listening to Diana Krall. The Other One has had several for years but I blocked it until recently. I’m still trying to figure her out? Not bad, but I’m not sure I see “it”? Well we have like seven of her albums so I guess eventually I’ll figure it out lol.

    Oh, and whomever suggested GEORGE WINSTON - Linus & Lucy, thanks for the reminder! Got that as a gift years ago, another nice mellow good vibe album, of course then there’s David Benoit - It’s a DB Christmas, and tge real deal and one that you might think is “just” a Xmass album, but man what playing and vibe (heroin Jazz) from Vince Guaraldi Trio on the original peanuts influenced material! Speaking of holiday Jazz, check out Jazz to the World from 1995 with various artists!

    So many of the choices provided by all you knowledgeable nice folks had me salivating, but alas many currently not available or too pricey used, so I’ll keep my eyes open. And hey, with what we did get we’ll be busy for awhile. Throw in the once through and supremely excellent DaP 43, and next up Mickeys new Planet Drum outing: In The Groove and I’d say Im good to go lol. Well…; )

    Thanks again too all y’all for the great suggestions and for just being you!

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    Went to a reggae fest last night....

    ....Tribal Seeds, SOJA and Dirty Heads. Forty bucks for five hours of solid entertainment. Great crowd.👌
    Check out Rage and Vacation by Dirty Heads. Catchy af. They also do a solid cover of Life's Been Good.

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    Both Dicks 4 and Dicks 8, Binghampton 5/2/70 were indeed cause for celebration. I used to visit a friend at that time, and he had 100s of tapes - so we had copies of these 3 shows already. But to have them on an officially released cd was amazing. They are still my favourite Dicks Picks.

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A sealed, unlabeled box sat undisturbed for decades on a shelf in the Grateful Dead’s San Rafael tape vault on Front Street, its contents an enduring mystery, even to those few with access to the vault. All David Lemieux knew about that box when he became the Dead’s archivist was that it contained tapes belonging to Bear—Owsley Stanley, the Dead’s first soundman and architect of the Wall of Sound. Even in the Dead Heads’ Holy of Holies, the taped-up box was tantalizing. But this was Bear’s personal property, and so he didn’t touch the box out of an abiding respect for the elder luminary of sound. Bear’s archive of Sonic Journal recordings had been kept safe for him for years within the Grateful Dead’s vault—over 1,300 reels of tape stored in heavy-duty cartons like old banana boxes. At any time, David could have popped the tops and explored them to his archivist heart's content. But they were off-limits without the nod from Bear. - Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell, Owsley Stanley Foundation

 

With a wink and a nod from Bear, we've peeled back those banana boxes to find some of the oldest and rarest of all recordings of the Dead including the double dose of shows that make up DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43. The two virtually complete performances from San Francisco 11/2/69, Live At Family Dog At The Great Highway, and from Dallas 12/26/69, McFarlin Auditorium, are complementary in their clarity and consistency thanks to Bear himself, and in their ability to foreshadow where the Dead were headed in the years to come. If the two killer 20-minute+ "Dark Stars" don't get ya, how about the Pigpen-centric sets featuring "Midnight Hour," "Next Time You See Me," "Big Boss Man," "Good Lovin'," and the once-lost-now-found complete rendition of "Dancing In The Streets," or the first full acoustic set ever performed? And we're certain you'll be fascinated to uncover the "Mystery Of Bear's Banana Boxes" as told by Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell in the liners.

 

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43 was recorded by Owlsey "Bear" Stanley and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

 

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 08/27/2022 - 12:14

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....'65 - '75 IS the best decade for music in my opinion.
Let's do a decade #1!
Another edit. Check out The Warning. A three piece sister power rock band from Mexico with impressive riffs. Whoa! Paulina, the drummer/harmony singer is on point!! Her enthusiasm is evident. Awesome.
Guess I'm on a girl band kick lately.

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Submitted by Crow Told Me on Sat, 08/27/2022 - 14:34

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It's the 50th anniversary of the greatest GD show ever. (Yeah, I said it.) Please celebrate irresponsibly.

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Submitted by Dark-Star on Sat, 08/27/2022 - 15:11

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I upgraded to Blu-ray and what a difference. The audio is great. I am watching this thinking how freedom looked back then. It seems like there was more freedom but I believe the music was just better. We had our problems back then too. I agree Crow, this show is terrific. I guess it helps that the source tapes are so good. Sometimes that's half the battle.

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Submitted by Gratefulhan on Sat, 08/27/2022 - 20:22

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I think TTB is excellent. Derek Trucks is legendary as far as I am concerned and Susan is wonderful. Talk about a power couple. Plus they really lined themselves up with some great musicians and vocalists. I hear a lot of influences in their songs. I really like the fact that they are not a jam band, or even a band that jams as Greg Allman would say. I think it is cool direction to take, especially for Derek who we all know can go after the improvisation from his Allman Brothers days.
A great footnote to this is that there is a YouTube video of TTB playing Anyday from about 11 years ago. Now this in itself isn't anything new, as the Allman Brother played that song and TTB continued to as well. However this video I am referencing has shots of many celebrities in attendance at this particular show. Just off of the stage there is shot of none other then Eric Clapton, who is singing along and rocking out to TTB playing Anyday. Talk about a great honor. I wish I could remeber the exact title of that video but I tihnk it is from a show or festival from 2011. If anyone gets adventurous I say it is worth the search to find it.

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Submitted by daverock on Sat, 08/27/2022 - 23:58

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The records I first heard when I was 15 never really grow old. A magical time - for me 1972-73 was illuminated by...
Electric Warrior - T. Rex
Ziggy Stardust - David Bowie
Paranoid -Black Sabbath
Fireball - Deep Purple
Space Ritual - Hawkwind
and the one that really amused my parents..... the incomparable Slade Alive!
Singles were great then too - All The Young Dudes, Starman, Silver Machine, Schools Out, Virginia Plain come to mind.
I was oblivious to The Dead playing various dates in England at the time.

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Submitted by That Mike on Sun, 08/28/2022 - 04:12

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Glad to hear you like the J’s, VGuy. The Jayhawks are terrific, and I’m finding out this offshoot group called Golden Smog (thank you Sixtus) is the bee’s knees.

Warning about this “Americana” music - it’s pretty infectious.

Once you tick that box marked “Americana”, the amazing music that unfolds is incredible, from all the performers mentioned, but including some other favourites of mine such as Neko Case, Gillian Welch/Dave Rawlings, Lucinda Williams, to old standbys such as Buddy Miller (I saw him play with Plant & Krauss - wow!), Ry Cooder, all the way back to the Band.

Do the Dead constitute “Americana”? Certainly, they were masterful interpreters of so many veins of music, from Motown to Reggae to Disco (yikes) to Jazz to Folk to….etc. Americana? Originators? Certainly American Beauty and Workingman’s Dead could be worthy of serious consideration, and notable for being ahead of their time, before this vein of music became defined as such. Hmmmmm…

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Sun, 08/28/2022 - 09:18

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That video is the 2011(?) Clapton Crossroads Festival. That's where I first saw TTB and fell for them immediately. They also interview a bit in there and describe how they found all the early influences like Delaney and Bonnie and wanted to revive that influence. It worked! The other melted happy face besides Clapton's was the host Bill Murray. You can lipread him saying, "WOW". To honor Clapton at his festival by doing a Derek and the Dominoes tune was a brilliant choice. The recent release of their whole live recreation of the Layla album really tops it off. And Trey guests on it too.
Cheers

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Submitted by billy the kiddd on Sun, 08/28/2022 - 12:08

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40 years ago today, I was up in Oregon for a good time with the Good Ole Grateful Dead. The show was a blast and the whole scene was just a lot of fun.. I had 3 tickets for the 3 shows in 1992, unfortunately it never happened.. 1982, what a great year to be seeing the Grateful Dead , with the Frost ,Greek , Ventura, and December Oakland shows, it was fun times. Hopefully, some of these Bay Area shows will be released some day.

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Submitted by Dark-Star on Sun, 08/28/2022 - 18:23

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I think you described the Dead's story very nicely in just a few words. To me they didn't just embody the American spirit, they imbibed it and reflected it back to us in the form of music. And they lived a free lifestyle exactly how they wanted to live it.

I have seen the breathing walls!

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 08/28/2022 - 18:53

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....Last Five
McCartney & Wings - Band On The Run.
The Jayhawks - Tomorrow The Green Grass.
GOGD - Dave's 30 Bonus. Fillmore East 1.3.70.
The Warning - ERROR.
Tedeschi Trucks Band - I Am The Moon Vol IV : Farewell.

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Submitted by That Mike on Mon, 08/29/2022 - 07:17

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“Best of” and “Greatest” designations when assessing art and music are pretty ludicrous yardsticks to use, such as in the Grammy awards and other such nonsense, but I have to admit, it would be hard, if not impossible, to claim TTB’s four-part opus “I Am The Moon” not THE best music to be released in 2022. It is absolutely transcendent, beginning to end. If it was Sun Tzu that taught that a warrior’s greatness is measured by the strength and cunning of his enemies, then by that thinking, this suite is all the more remarkable when measured against all the incredible music also released this year.

Although I have their library, and definitely enjoy their music, I was ambivalent about their standing as a premier musical act, but I gotta tip my hat to them for this one. It is an absolute gem. A live reading of this four-parter would be a show for the ages.

My only kicker: This all would have made a killer double album. But once the marketing people get a foot in the door…

“A Charlie Brown Christmas” 5 CD set! 5 CDs!!!!!
The marketing people….

Godspeed to the stuffed Snoopy dog aboard Artemis 1, as it attempts it’s launch to the moon today.

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Submitted by Gratefulhan on Mon, 08/29/2022 - 14:13

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I did also see Bill Murray off to the side in that video footage too. I was just stuck on Clapton's reaction. Still it was defintiely cool to see Bill Murry enjoying things. I need to check out that TTB Layla Revisted album. I have been working on few projects that involve listening to a bunch of live shows so I have been occupied with that. When I get chance, I am going to give it a listen.

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Submitted by marye on Mon, 08/29/2022 - 15:20

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yes, you do need to check that out. It's pretty incredible. (So were TTB with Los Lobos at the Greek the other week, with Jerry's Alligator guitar.)
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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Mon, 08/29/2022 - 16:00

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C'mon, after 50 years, I was just getting over the breathing walls and ya had to mention them... Dang it!

As for Snoopy, a classic Rosie Magee pic of Pigpen shows his Snoopy pin on his greasy corduroy hat, plain as day. So maybe a piece of Pigpen's soul is heading to the moon on Artemis. (Though none of the reasons given for our return to the Moon make any sense to me. Except to stake our claim in the face of China's interest, which unfortunately smacks of militarism and control...)

And as for TTB, I keep tellin' ya, that's the hottest band on the planet right now. If they've got Los Lobos in tow, that's THE package. At least according to me, and, as you well know, I've never been wrong before...

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Submitted by J3FF on Mon, 08/29/2022 - 17:06

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So I've got Your Picks Vol. 43 in my hands and CD player. Cool music.... BUT...

I ask you, sir--is this how YOU listen to these shows? The first 9 songs of 11/2/69, then the 5 songs from 12/26/69, then 4 songs from 11/2, then 11 songs from 12/26??

If yes, then I don't feel you really appreciate the experience of live Dead--how each show is a unique event and piece of musical art, how each show has a rhythm and a story all its own. (This is WHY so many of us spend thousands of dollars buying these very shows on CD when we are content with just getting the best studio releases from other artists we love.)

If this is NOT how you would listen to these shows, and you do enjoy and appreciate listening to a show as it was performed, then you are not really respecting the rest of us who want to listen to the shows in that way but don't have the privilege of access to GD's vaults.

You make great choices of shows-- just let us listen to them as Jerry intended please. It's doable. Every single box set release does it.

Thanks!

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Mon, 08/29/2022 - 18:41

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....twenty-four songs, and not a bad one to be found. Very impressive. I raise my glass to you.
And J3ff. It's due to the 80 minute time limits on the CD format.
Deadworld problems.

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Submitted by billy the kiddd on Mon, 08/29/2022 - 21:49

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35 years ago, I was up on the Eel River to see Jerry Garcia put on a fantastic show, one set acoustic, two sets electric. What a fantastic spot, up in the Redwoods in the mountains right on the Eel River. It was definitely electric, what a swinging party.

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Submitted by Sydney Prentice on Tue, 08/30/2022 - 00:15

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Yes it's a gripe of mine too,I did mention this several Dave's Picks ago, when I was reminded of the Road Trips series of fragmented shows.
I am grateful to have the 2 shows on 3 discs,but it does annoy me at having to break off listening to a show to change discs.I do not have the means to re arrange the songs on a computer,& besides I enjoy the HDCD resolution.
As much as I enjoy my vinyl in my opinion the Grateful Dead live recordings are more enjoyable to listen to via CD, as you are not changing record sides between certain flows of the music.

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Submitted by daverock on Tue, 08/30/2022 - 04:31

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Conversely, I do enjoy listening to live Dead on vinyl. It seems to make me focus a bit more. I don't listen to whole shows in one go- in about an hour I will have some lunch, and maybe listen to 2 sides of an L.P. That will be it for me for music for a few hours - I'll go off an do something else, and tune back in a few hours time, but again just for 40 minutes or so.
I don't listen to music during the core of the evening - but about 11.00pm...that's when cds come in handy. Sit back and let it all wash over me for a few hours.
With fragmented shows, I don't mind so much as long as it is clearly labelled on the sleeve what music comes from what show. Some of the earlier ones didn't do this - so you have to get Deadbase down to work out where different songs come from. If you can be bothered. The Dicks Picks from late July early August 1974 comes to mind-but there are quite a few.
And although Dave's Picks 43 works really well for me as a whole - I don't think it's necessary to fill every second of every cd with music. I have never liked fillers. Many of the greatest albums from the past clocked in at little more than half an hour. Quality-not quantity is the key, for me.

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Submitted by Mr. Ones on Tue, 08/30/2022 - 06:57

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I have received your Pick numbered 43. Cool music BUT, you really have a lot of nerve squeezing the absolute MAXIMUM of Dead music possible onto 3 cds(just under 4 hours worth).
As you may know, if us Dead Heads can’t listen EXACTLY the way we wish, and you know what way that is, then I’d rather have NOTHING!!
I love the Dead sooooo much, that if I can’t listen to a whole show, complete and in order, and not have to get up off my a$$ to perhaps change a disc, then you can forget it, the deal is off!! How DARE you give me 2 shows for the price of 1, of this band I love sooooo much. I’d rather just have 1 90 minute show, spread over 3 discs, IN ORDER, so that my entitled, lazy a$$ does NOT have to move while I am listening.
A rational person might think “oh my God”!! I’m getting 2 COMPLETE shows(minus 1 song) instead of 1, for the same price!! But no, we Dead Heads don’t want more music. We want LESS music, and only if it’s presented PERFECTLY. Perfect sound, NO PATCHES, no dropouts, in proper order, so that all I have to do is push 1, ONE button, and then I can laze back, stoned to the gills, and forget about life and how hard it is to be alive.
We want LESS music, PERFECTLY prepared, the less music the better, so long as it’s PERFECT, at least to me. Because after all, you ARE doing this just for me, right?? Seeing as how I’m the MOST important person in the universe.
To those who are Grateful to have the MAXIMUM amount of Dead music, no matter how poorly it’s presented, well, you happen to be so so wrong. And of course I am right!!
It must be so sad to not be me.

I have SPOKEN!! This is the truth, so sayeth the Lord.

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Submitted by Angry Jack Straw on Tue, 08/30/2022 - 07:40

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is easily one of the best releases of the entire series. And it is still not good enough because of the song sequencing?

What a joke.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Tue, 08/30/2022 - 08:08

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For packing 2 grate shows onto 3 80-minute CD’s.
And for putting that missing Cold Rain and Snow on a future release.

Fortunately for me, I learned how to use a computer in the 1990’s, and now in 2022 can rearrange the order of digital music files.

As an alternative, some CD players let you program the order that tracks are played.

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Submitted by Sydney Prentice on Tue, 08/30/2022 - 08:18

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No offence but it's only my opinion, if I prefer to sit on my backside and listen to a whole show in order that's my choice.

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Submitted by Colin Gould on Tue, 08/30/2022 - 08:25

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I see the next Sonic Journals is by the Chieftains.
It is already available to order from Amazon UK and I’ve ordered it.

Glad to see these guys getting love over the last couple weeks. I had the good fortune to see TTB at the Greek in LA, then MMJ at Red Rocks for the Saturday show. Both killer shows. Every time I want to whine/complain about something my life or something in the world at large, I immediately flash back to these 2 shows within 8 days and tell myself to STFU.

As Vguy is wont to say, "Music is the Best."

As Patterson Hood of the DBT sings, "It's fuckin great to be alive!"

Yes, Patterson, it sure as fuck is.

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Submitted by Charlie3 on Tue, 08/30/2022 - 09:25

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...to see the expression of different opinions about song sequencing and filler met with scorn and ad hominem attacks. It's one of the things I like least about this site.

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Tue, 08/30/2022 - 10:00

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Was Pig's Snoopy pin the one with sunglasses? Joe Cool was my favorite Snoopy alter-ego, followed closely by the WW1 flying ace. I had the Snoopy Cowabunga on a surfboard poster in my room when young. Hallmark has made thousands off of my family and I as Shultz cards are still our favorite greetings. As I got a little older the Lange ski "Tips Up" girl poster moved in next to Snoopy. Mom was OK with it likely because Lange girl's nipples were airbrushed out.
Gotta go with Charlie3 on today's comments although I got a good laugh out of Mr.Ones, who by the way is I believe the originator of Music Is The Best. I did have to listen in corrected order but like Daverock I usually have to break it up anyway so no biggie.
Cheers all!
Edit: Last 5
Airto - Seeds on the Ground; The Natural Sounds of Airto (an RGM reissue), cool smooth jazz w/ Ron Carter on bass.
DaP 43 - Excellent recording. Very enjoyable with the acoustic. IMHO no way the best Dave's, sorry just not my era.
Renaissance - Ashes Are Burning
Moody Blues - In Search of the Lost Chord
Little Feat - Time Loves a Hero
All on LP except DaP 43

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Submitted by That Mike on Tue, 08/30/2022 - 10:30

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I have to figure the Snoopy stuffed toy and 3 manikins (now known as “Moonikins”) aboard Artemus 1 are relieved to get a reprieve from launch, at least until Friday. I guess these aren’t just random manikins pulled out of a Macy storefront window (“Your country needs you!”), but fairly elaborate robots that will gauge all the pressures and hazards of space travel expected for when the Artemus project goes to manned space flight (including putting the first woman on the moon. NASA declined my offers of “Take my wife, please”). These “dummies” were going to be enduring 26,000 MPH thrust just to escape the Earth’s gravity. I thought my brother’s old dressed-up Mercury Cougar hauled ass! This Artemus project is pretty “Holy Shit!” stuff.

As for DaP 43, I’ll just agree with others that it may be one of the best of the series, and I respect others may not agree. But TWO prime Dark Stars!!! This DaP 43 is pretty “Holy Shit!” stuff!

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Submitted by daverock on Tue, 08/30/2022 - 10:45

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Funny how some people seem to get a bit humpy if they see a point of view expressed that isn't in accordance with their own.

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Tue, 08/30/2022 - 10:48

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I think I heard that Artemus does 17,000 mph in 8.5 seconds.
ThatMike, I loved the Rodney Dangerfield reference.
I had a buddy that had a (67?) Mercury Cougar XR-7 with the 428 Cobra-Jet. This was around 1975-6 so it was well used by then. But it WAS fast.
He wrapped it around a tree in like a month after buying it.
I've always said if I'd have had a fast car I'd be dead already.
Fastest thing I've ever had is my inherited '95 Mercury Grand Marquis.
My first V-8, likely does 0-60 in maybe 11 seconds? It's a boat but no anchor in the trunk. But it rides nice and gets 30mpg on the highway.
Cheers

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Submitted by J3FF on Tue, 08/30/2022 - 11:03

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Sorry for disturbing you under your bridge there... but good job disproving the stereotype that Dead fans are kind.

I'm not sure why someone would take such personal offense to my request that the shows be presented in the original sequence. I'm not trying to deprive anyone of anything--if it really were not possible to fit both shows in the correct sequence on 3 discs there's no reason they can't do it on 4 discs... (there's a 153-disc collection of the complete works of Bach that sells for $125 so I don't think it can be that expensive to toss in an extra disc.)

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Submitted by That Mike on Tue, 08/30/2022 - 11:29

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My older brother once drove his Cougar from my parent’s home to a friend’s cabin in a rural area in under 45 minutes, a drive that normally would take 2 hours and fifteen minutes if you followed the limit. As he had this car in the 70s, and had recently moved out of the family home, I forget all the specs on it, but he loved the speed of this thing, and while he crashed a few things, including a beautiful BMW Motorcycle on a speed track (amazingly just breaking his collarbone), he never wrecked the Cougar. Scary car, scarier driver.
I read Artemus 1 will be re-entering the Earth’s atmosphere at 17,500 miles an hour! Check those Moonikins for diapers!

Captcha: And a big yellow taxi come and took away my old man

J3ff’s comments to Dave of:
(Read the whole post for context of these quotes)

“ is this how YOU listen to these shows?”

“ If yes, then I don't feel you really appreciate the experience of live Dead”

“ then you are not really respecting the rest of us”

“ just let us listen to them as Jerry intended please”
(How do you know what Jerry intended? Jerry wasn’t the sole decision maker of the band)

Can come off as more than just an opinion, but also as another attack on Dave.

In my alternate opinion this was the correct decision as a means to get these 2 shows released at the same time, even if the Cold Rain does have to be included in a later release.

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Tue, 08/30/2022 - 12:14

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Mike, My sister's boyfriend in 1968 drove his E-type Jag from St. Louis to Denver, a trip of 850 miles, in under 9 hours. Mostly at night with only gas stops, he said he did 100+ mph as much as he could. Cannonball Run! That's what love will make you do! (One of my favorite JGB tunes. Who does the original? David Bromberg does one too.)
Cheers

Some of you guys act like you're Dave's girlfriend or something.

Let me know where Dave is available to field gently-worded input please, because I haven't found it yet... if you send an email to Dead.net you get no reply; if you send a Facebook message they send an automatic reply trying to sell you stuff...

I will admit that my post expresses frustration with the folks selling this stuff. In addition to the non-responsiveness, there have been some truly baffling and annoying decisions in the assembly of these shows. On disc 2 of Dave's Picks 41 (only 32 minutes long BTW--so much for jam-packing the discs) we go from the 5/26/77 show to 7/19/90 (?) for two minutes of post-Not Fade Away audience chanting before starting U.S. Blues before returning to 5/26/77 on the next disc. What possible reason is there to include the chanting as part of "U.S. Blues"? Or a 1990 song on a 1977 show? (or is that a typo on the disc?)

It's weird that some of you want to mock me for valuing the song order that the band originally chose... but act like the order Dave randomly chose is sacred.

I'm happy for you guys that download these and re-assemble them in order but I don't think that's a valid justification for not putting them in order in the actual product being sold.

If Dave is offended by the tone of my post please let me know-- you should have access to my email. I'll buy you a beer.

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Submitted by billy the kiddd on Tue, 08/30/2022 - 12:51

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35 years ago today, I was at the Greek Theatre to see Garcia and Bonnie Raitt put on a nice show. Proudfoot, the Eel River show was really something special in a very special place. People were diving from high clifts into the Eel River, you would see the trails of the divers as they went off the clifts. Electric was the appropriate word , if you were not, you were in the minority. Garcia really played great. I can't say that I've ever been in a cooler place to see music, up in the Redwoods in the mountains. I've missed some cool shows in the past, but I didn't miss this one.

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