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    A sealed, unlabeled box sat undisturbed for decades on a shelf in the Grateful Dead’s San Rafael tape vault on Front Street, its contents an enduring mystery, even to those few with access to the vault. All David Lemieux knew about that box when he became the Dead’s archivist was that it contained tapes belonging to Bear—Owsley Stanley, the Dead’s first soundman and architect of the Wall of Sound. Even in the Dead Heads’ Holy of Holies, the taped-up box was tantalizing. But this was Bear’s personal property, and so he didn’t touch the box out of an abiding respect for the elder luminary of sound. Bear’s archive of Sonic Journal recordings had been kept safe for him for years within the Grateful Dead’s vault—over 1,300 reels of tape stored in heavy-duty cartons like old banana boxes. At any time, David could have popped the tops and explored them to his archivist heart's content. But they were off-limits without the nod from Bear. - Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell, Owsley Stanley Foundation

     

    With a wink and a nod from Bear, we've peeled back those banana boxes to find some of the oldest and rarest of all recordings of the Dead including the double dose of shows that make up DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43. The two virtually complete performances from San Francisco 11/2/69, Live At Family Dog At The Great Highway, and from Dallas 12/26/69, McFarlin Auditorium, are complementary in their clarity and consistency thanks to Bear himself, and in their ability to foreshadow where the Dead were headed in the years to come. If the two killer 20-minute+ "Dark Stars" don't get ya, how about the Pigpen-centric sets featuring "Midnight Hour," "Next Time You See Me," "Big Boss Man," "Good Lovin'," and the once-lost-now-found complete rendition of "Dancing In The Streets," or the first full acoustic set ever performed? And we're certain you'll be fascinated to uncover the "Mystery Of Bear's Banana Boxes" as told by Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell in the liners.

     

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43 was recorded by Owlsey "Bear" Stanley and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

     

    *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • 1stshow70878
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    Dennis For The Win!

    Yes, I'd forgotten Mr. Youngman. Another master of self deprecating humor.
    And now for something completely different.
    Three weeks until MSG.
    Cheers

  • Dennis
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    If you're sad about order....

    .... think about how those poor bastards feel who bought the Lyceum digital. Now there's a bunch I feel for,,,, how can downloads not work????

  • Dennis
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    a thing or two

    Got amazon email,,,, Miles boot 7 coming on 9/16 (cd and vinyl).

    Also, slow as I am,,, didn't realize that TTB I Am the Sun,,, sorry Moon,,, was a 4 part collection. Ordered all 4 yesterday,,, they are coming today,,,, thanks Vguy?

    Still no word on the vinyl release of the "from the vault" series?!?! (wiping tear now)

  • Dennis
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    I check and indeed had Little Milton,,, nice cut.

    All that talk about fast cars,,,,, made me pull out Solomon Burke doing "Fast Train". (yes my mind make odd connections!) (if you don't know Solomon's cover of this tune,,,, find it!)

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    1st show, that mike and Rodney

    Just for the sake of busting balls,,,, take my wife is Henny Youngman (I think I'm right,,,, take my memory!)

  • Sixtus_
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    ...not to chum up the fray, but more to jimmy's point about the CDs being 'master copies' to us lay-folk, many of us do understand these are our own 'master' copies, and, therefore, a typical first procedure upon receipt for those who want to preserve these historical artifacts is to immediately plop them into our CD burners and burn them to a hard drive for forever safe keeping. A second step then, for those who love CDs (aka, me, others, most of us), is to burn a 'working copy' of said CD to then tote around. This way, it can get scraped, scratched, chain-sawed, whatever - and we can still go back to the original well and obtain an exact duplicate, pristine copy. And, if we do it right, that copy will have all songs in chronological order if that suits the listener.

    Just my two cents.

    At the end of the day - healthy discussion, seeing all sides, finding a throughway string, and meeting in the middle are talents that more and more human beings are unable to implement. This forum does go a long way to implement these tools, and for this I know we are All Grateful.

    Be Well, People.
    Sixtus

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    I used to think all CD players are the same.. I mean, they playback identical digital information, right.. so if they do their job it should sound the exact same as the next player, right?

    Writing this, I understand 90% of the people here know audio equipment better than me and most have better systems than me. I bet others chime in with more accurate information..

    But there is a big difference between both players and the digital amps/preamps, etc. The digital encoder and playback functionality makes a big difference. The fact that your phone does a better job playing back your CDs than the CD player speaks more of the CD player and amp than anything else. Unfortunately.. things are not simple and rarely are as they appear. The folks that spend a small fortune on audio equipment are usually getting better sound and for a reason.

    As to the previous point on song order, complete shows, getting the encore from one show two releases down the line as filler on a subsequent Dave's Picks, etc, I don't think anyone is disagreeing with you. Your point is singular, however, and other variables exist. What most find amusing, including me, is your tone. I think you underestimate Dave and what he has to contend with on the corporate side of things. These are first world problems to be sure and the fix isn't really that big of a deal. The model they set up is basically a three CD model that tries to release complete shows (or as complete as 'possible') four times a year allowing one bonus CD per year. They have on rare occasion tossed in an extra CD free of charge for subscribers, but they do charge extra ala carte for these. It's a minor inconvenience to tackle ripping them, adjusting the metadata so they play in the right order and burning the set using an extra disc or two. If you are constantly playing the originals, one day you will likely create a 'mistake' with one of these soon to be priceless discs and then you might be horrified to find it hopelessly out of print and have a decision to make in replacing it on the secondary market or sending your kid to college.. (sorry little Johnny!). We got an extra show for free, a twofer, and a spectacular one at that so most here are delighted with this one probably including Dave. Plus as DaveRock chimed in Lemieux isn't reading this and if he is, he certainly would not be mining our opinions to improve the series.

    If it were my choice these two shows would have gotten their own release possibly meaning two 3 CD releases in the correct order with lots of black space on the discs (or some killer 69 filler) or they would have gotten stand-alone treatment in the form of Bear's Choice Volume 2. From my perspective, we would have gotten another 1969 release bumping up this neglected year. Both shows are release worthy, they sound great and the performances are worthy. I can only imagine the complaints we would have gotten, rotten tomatoes on the empty discs, etc.

    Anyway, their primary responsibility is to restore these mostly ancient and delicate analog master reels and remaster them using the best tools and sound engineers (really these guys are master craftsman/artists) and get them out before they decay into oblivion and are forgotten to antiquity. The lonely reels aging in the vault are decaying and breaking down, but the time to restore and our ability to pay for all this is limited. If you look at it that way they are doing a very good job. Is everyone happy 100% of the time? Are decisions made in the production, packaging and marketing we find unfortunate? Yes! Well, we are fickle bunch, we cannot agree on anything.

    Back your previously scheduled favorite keyboardist discussion complete with thoughtful analysis and detail supporting your points while still being very careful not to offend anyone who thinks differently.

    I hope I did not offend. As you were.

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    Charlie - I never did know who did the original version of this song, and I was not familiar with Little Milton, but you are right, a great version, and some pretty sweet fretwork.
    It is incredible the wealth and range of music Jerry and the boys knew, considering the internet was not really a thing for most, if not all, of Jerry’s or the Dead’s life. We can check out new or recommended artists with a quick search, but these guys came by their influences quite organically. Jerry selected some real keeper tunes that he made his own during his solo career, and this tune was always welcome.
    What’s your favourite Jerry/JGB solo song? Don’t Let Go…Dear Prudence…That Lucky Old Sun…anything Dylan…???

    “Farewell and adieu to you fair Spanish ladies. Farewell and adieu to you ladies of Spain.”

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    J3FF - I I have enjoyed reading your posts, but I think your'e barking up the wrong tree if you think anyone from Deadnet ( apart from Marye) reads them - let alone acts on them. To me, this is an outlet for discussion and expressing ideas - not changing policy. I think if I wanted to do that I think I send a pm to Marye, and ask her if she knew the best way of going about it.

    Peteh - I don't even own a phone! I know....I'm living in the past.

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    If the point was to accommodate folks listening from digital downloads I would think they would sell digital downloads. It's a very common practice. I think vinyl releases should be designed for folks to listen to on vinyl, and CDs designed with folks who listen on CD in mind.

    I'm glad that it works for you folks who download your CDs and re-arrange them but I don't think that is a reason to not sequence the CDs in the correct order. If they put the songs in order you could still download them and have them in order (or shuffle them up if you wanted) and I could pop them in my CD player and have them in order.

    I posted my comment hoping that JUST MAYBE someone from Dead.Net might actually read the comments on the "product page"--not to start a debate. Of course everyone is free to respond however they see fit.

    But the point about how the customers can fix the messed-up CDs by downloading the music and not using the CDs seems silly. It's like if you gave a chair a negative review on Amazon because it arrived broken and I replied that it wasn't really a problem because I take all my chairs apart and make them into tables, so what's the problem with a broken chair-- they make great tables.

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A sealed, unlabeled box sat undisturbed for decades on a shelf in the Grateful Dead’s San Rafael tape vault on Front Street, its contents an enduring mystery, even to those few with access to the vault. All David Lemieux knew about that box when he became the Dead’s archivist was that it contained tapes belonging to Bear—Owsley Stanley, the Dead’s first soundman and architect of the Wall of Sound. Even in the Dead Heads’ Holy of Holies, the taped-up box was tantalizing. But this was Bear’s personal property, and so he didn’t touch the box out of an abiding respect for the elder luminary of sound. Bear’s archive of Sonic Journal recordings had been kept safe for him for years within the Grateful Dead’s vault—over 1,300 reels of tape stored in heavy-duty cartons like old banana boxes. At any time, David could have popped the tops and explored them to his archivist heart's content. But they were off-limits without the nod from Bear. - Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell, Owsley Stanley Foundation

 

With a wink and a nod from Bear, we've peeled back those banana boxes to find some of the oldest and rarest of all recordings of the Dead including the double dose of shows that make up DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43. The two virtually complete performances from San Francisco 11/2/69, Live At Family Dog At The Great Highway, and from Dallas 12/26/69, McFarlin Auditorium, are complementary in their clarity and consistency thanks to Bear himself, and in their ability to foreshadow where the Dead were headed in the years to come. If the two killer 20-minute+ "Dark Stars" don't get ya, how about the Pigpen-centric sets featuring "Midnight Hour," "Next Time You See Me," "Big Boss Man," "Good Lovin'," and the once-lost-now-found complete rendition of "Dancing In The Streets," or the first full acoustic set ever performed? And we're certain you'll be fascinated to uncover the "Mystery Of Bear's Banana Boxes" as told by Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell in the liners.

 

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43 was recorded by Owlsey "Bear" Stanley and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

 

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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That Mike, that Pure Jerry Theatre 1839 (July 29 and 30, 1977) Don't Let Go is another smoker. Can't get enough of that tune.

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Without looking it up I am guessing Brody.

Robert Shaw. Yup. Way too early. His lifestyle got the best of him. Heart attack while driving home in Ireland.

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I'm going with the mayor. Dumbass gets some redemption later after he is responsible for some of the continuing deaths as he won't let them close the beaches. Big money wins again. We need those tourist dollars!
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For a favorite Jerry tune how about Mississippi Moon. Don't know if it was ever done live though. I just love the feel and mood of that one with the oboe in there. Hard to do live. For that matter the whole Compliments album is likely my favorite of his solo studios.

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Jack - Good guess, but nope. It was the Mayor of the town (cannot think of the character’s name). Remember he got all panicky that these three guys - Scheider, Shaw, & Dreyfuss - would be looking for a shark during THE biggest tourist weekend of the year, ie - The Fourth of July? He almost had to be put on oxygen, he was just peaking!

Charlie - I’ll be cuing that Pure Jerry album up this coming weekend, for sure!

Edit: 1st Show! You got it! For your prize, please pick anything - anything - from Dennis’ very extensive collection! ;)

Sorry, though, if I hurt your feelings, Cousins of The...

I grew up on the mean streets where nearly every day someone in my gang would say "if you believe THAT you are being Pollyanaish." So I guess I became inured to such rough talk.

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I'm recovering from Covid, so I will admit I have a short fuse these days.
Anyway, no hurt feelings.
Peace, and....there I removed the offending line!

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No need to remove the colorful sign-off... now I look like I'm laughing at you being sick. ;)

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Dennis do you have anything stored in banana boxes?
Cheers

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Yeah Charlie, I love that JGB show, one of my favorite tapes BITD!
Billy K on drums!
Would make a nice release, could pair with Bobs set like that Long Island 89 they released!

Speaking of not letting go:
Dude, ENOUGH already!!
You said your piece, now get out.
You stated your opinion, which is fine, then you argued your opinion in the face of overwhelming opposition ad nauseam, which is ok, but PLEASE let it go, we get it already. Sorry your not happy!
98% of the folks here totally disagree with you so let it go and move the fuck on, your ruining the vibe!
Maybe next time they’ll only give us one short show on three discs, but hey it’ll be in order!
FFS, don’t you have anything better to do? Or maybe that’s the real situation here: your bored and think this is funny?

COUSINS: be well soon!

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That's all good, man. I don't want to add any ugliness to this otherwise fine forum.

I thought it was pretty clear I'd dropped it. (My last post on the issue was 14 posts before yours telling me I'm wrong and why won't I drop the issue! :D)

I only commented further beyond my original post to reply to other folks who were saying why I was wrong. I didn't realize I was supposed to shut up and not respond.

And none of my posts were as dickish as yours (FFS).

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Doesn’t anyone appreciate satire anymore?? J3ff, I hold no grudge towards you, or anyone else here. It’s that occasionally, when it occurs to me that our complaints just fly in the face of how LUCKY are are to continually receive these audio gifts, I feel the compulsion to respond. And sometimes I think human nature helps us forget how blessed we are. I have no malice toward ANYONE here. I have some favorites, just as we all do. But sometimes a contribution to this thread just gets me needing to send a vitriolic, though tongue in cheek, response. I LOVE the discussions we have here, and occasionally like to contribute. I just can’t help that my cynical Lenny Bruce or George Carlin comes sneaking out sometimes.
We are such a broad, diverse bunch. Of course we’re going to have differences of opinion. Who cares?? It would be pretty boring if we all agreed on everything.
Anyway, there was never a point at which I wanted to insult or hurt ones feelings. I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again. You can try hard as you like to hurt my feelings. It will never happen. Words are incapable of upsetting me. Well, unless it’s from an old girlfriend I still have feelings for, But I digress. I encourage good thoughtful dialogue, and the more differing the opinions, the better I like it. You know what?? Music is the Best!!

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I appreciate this follow-up post. And I recognize that my original post carried a lot of frustration at the imperviousness of Dead.net to customer feedback--even from customers who have spent thousands of dollars buying CDs of old concerts--which apparently annoyed a number of Daveheads.

But I thought at the core I was making a legitimate request.

I think satire is probably better directed at public figures or governments or drinking buddies rather than someone making a product suggestion in a product forum--especially since the satire involved comically exaggerating or misstating what I was actually saying, which seemed to inform other comments representing that I would prefer to have LESS MUSIC as long as it was in order.

I was actually asking that Dave/Dead.net/Rhino please give us an extra disc so the songs could be in order, and that I don't think it's economically out of reach to do so as represented by many other archival releases from other bands, including JGB.

I don't think anyone could sincerely oppose getting a fourth disc and both entire shows in the correct order, so a lot of people offended by my impudence instead made a straw man to argue with--saying I was asking for less music as long as it was in order.

The powers that be may not be willing to add a fourth disc under circumstances like those in Dave's Picks 43. But I don't see the harm in asking.

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I sure wish that they would release a list of the tapes that are in Owsley's boxes, that would be cool. Hopefully, they have the tapes from the tour of the Great Northwest in 1968 in there. It's really something to look forward to, what will be released from that box

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Not the first time Dave has done this and probably won't be the last. In fact the last time he did it before #43, was #42.

I also remember the 73 30 Trips show from San Diego.

Sure hope we get another two show 4 disc release to end the year. 91? Might be time.
Sixtus, I am impressed with your system. Maybe someday I will there. I bet you have quite the top drawer!

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Quick and to the point before lighting up.......After Midnight, Kean College, 2/28/1980. Plus it has Hunter singing 2 tunes. Killer version of "The Harder They Come". It doesn't get any better.

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The acoustic music from the Lunt Fontanne Theatre. I saw the Garcia Acoustic band in 1987 at the Warfield, and they were absolutely fantastic!

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Aye, Rasta...good stuff.

ST. STEPHEN, indeed. And "now now kids"...

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6 22 86
Ya might not think that a show with that date would be recommended. Ya would be wrong.

September arrives tomorrow with the new boxset coming up. Yahoo!!!

I am sick to death of this hot weather in Seattle. Please cool down!!!

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I recently have discovered Its Only RnR album

Pretty dang good

Also Black and Blue is better than first impression from 1979

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...is exactly what I thought this morning after waking with a migraine and immediately dropping and destroying my cell phone on which I run my business. FFS indeed. Spent the afternoon wasting half a day running around getting a new phone in Missoula. Tomorrow I can try to reassemble my calendar, which, of course, was entirely on my cell phone, including tracking down the phone number for the appointment that I have scheduled for some now unknown time next week so I can call and find out when the appointment is scheduled to occur. The only bright spot was listening to the Sunstroke Serenaders performing an excellent show while driving around in what passes for traffic in Missoula. Pretty sure a number of you are fans of the Sunstroke Serenaders, if not check 'em out, good stuff.

That Mike, you mentioned that the Pure Jerry had an extended Don't Let Go, and wow, forgot that it was 27 minutes, that will be getting a spin soon for sure.

Oro, cool that you are familiar with that Music Mountain JGB show, I had a tape with only Don't Let Go, the Night They Drove Old Dixie Down, and Run for the Roses along with some random unrelated tunes from totally unrelated artists.

Digging the Jaws quote-fest even though it's not my favorite movie. Here's a favorite quote of mine from a favorite movie of mine, "Hey, listen, I want somebody good - and I mean very good - to plant that gun. I don't want my brother coming out of that toilet with just his dick in his hands, alright?" Classic line, classic movie. Feel free to identify or ignore the movie and speaker.

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....Chinatown? Total guess.
The Sunstroke Serenaders are tied for first with my other three favorite bands. The Warlocks, Mythical Ethical Icicle Tricycle and The Emergency Crew.
I can't believe I forgot about those cats.
I hope they made it big!
It's mesquite salmon and bacon wrapped asparagus on the menu tonight boyz and girlz!
Back in the day, we used to linq recipes here. So many roads ago.
A week to go until Leppard/Crue/Poison/Jett. Stage show looks incredible. Final stop on the tour as it should be. Granddaughter is all in. She loves Mick Mars and Bret Michaels. The next day, there is a reptile expo here. She loves snakes. Me? Not so much. But chameleons are cool and I just want a couple of geckos.

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....yes.
The Eel Box is also special to me. Especially the 8.10.91 show. Best The Way You Do The Things You Do that I've ever heard. Plus a You Never Can Tell (C'est La Vie). And a Shining Star. And a Lazy Bones. And a Struggling Man. And a Lay Down Sally.
That show had it all.
Which reminds me. I need to frame the print that came with pre-orders.

Charlie, that is a bummer, not fun when the phone goes down.

Movie, The Godfather.
Sonny speaking to Clemenza.

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You are the winner, it was in fact Sonny speaking to Clemenza during preparations for Michael to kill The Turk and his police captain bodyguard in the Godfather. Watched 1 and 2 in the last month, and love them both, but I would have to go with 1 as my favorite. And yes, phone replacement sucks.

And VGuy, you get the prize for your lightning fast identification of some other names used by the Sunstroke Serenaders.

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Keep getting Nicolette Larson's version of Lotta Love stuck in my head on a loop...

Yes, Jaws is not the greatest movie ever.. Chinatown and The Godfather both surpass it by a longshot.. but in the summer of '75 that shark reigned supreme. Quint was the star in my eyes. He had grit. Farewell And Adieu Fair Spanish Ladies' indeed. Looking back it seems a bit tacky, they had major trouble with the special effects.. dated is perhaps the word I am looking for, but the timing was perfect. It's every bit as good a monster as Frankenstein, which reminds me.. a happy belated birthday Mary Shelley.

Now where were we? It appears everyone is getting along grandly.. Long drive today, might have lost a car on the way.. had to crawl back in a rental. Good thing it wasn't my car, but the owner is more than a bit distraught, happened far away from home. Got in some good '74 on the drive.. and a little May '69 for good measure. Decided to offer and eat the cost of the rental. The good news is, it was late and we somehow did not get stranded. First time I ever used Uber, they don't have those where I live. Aye.. there's aways good and bad in life. Gota admit, the transition in the China Rider pulled me through. Holy cow, 1974 GD cures all.

Farewell And Adieu Fair Spanish Ladies'. Still cracks me up, makes me want to smash a Styrofoam cup in my hands while talking like a pirate.

Rest up Cousins.. hoping a speedy, harm-free recovery finds you.

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Charlie - That is 27 INCREDIBLE minutes of “Don’t Let Go” on the Pure Jerry release! Enjoy, my friend! (As an extra, play the 5 song bonus disc “More After Midnight” that came with the Kean College release. Jerry plays like I wish he would have on more occasions- he really turns it up, and gave his axe a workout! A gem!)

PS - Now I’ve got that silly “Lotta Love” in my head! I do that to my wife occasionally- start purposely humming/singing some ear worm, and within minutes, I can hear her down the hall, or in the kitchen, singing it. “California Dreamin’” by the Mamas & Papas seems to be really effective, and has staying power.

...speaking of which, I scored tickets for Jaws in Imax 3D this weekend with two of our kids (age 8 & 6, and yes they frigging LOVE this movie...we've watched together many many times over the years). I'm really interested to see how good the film looks in 3D, cause it's gonna be even better than the days of Avatar - so they are saying. It will also be cool to see it up on the big screen, as I was too young when it came out to get that real experience.
Quint is awesome, but Bruce takes the show.

Please carry on with your regularly scheduled Estimated > Eyes.

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Bruce (the Shark), then Quint

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A little late here, had to attend a funeral. Hopefully we laid to rest the cd sequencing issue :-)

J3ff - I smiled at your Pollyanna comment about your gang. Our gang used to yell, "Gowan home your Mudda callin".
Really though felt bad for ya. Reminded me of a Bugs Bunny cartoon,,,, "dog pile on the rabbit, dog pile on the rabbit"
Would have thought you said something unthinkable like "let's nail jesus to a cross", fuck, forgot we did that! brought to mind the Solomon Burke doing Fast Train,

You had to go on the lam you stepped into no-man's land
Ain't nobody here on your waveband
Ain't nobody gonna give you a helping hand

1st and banana boxes, sorry just keep my drugs in there (like Johnny Cash). Bought a box of banana once,,,, they held no appeal.

Vguy - wall shuffle, big smile here. We talk about this one all the time at work. How can you play a sliver of the wall, let alone out of order?

Mr 1 - Lenny Bruce? Anyone watching Mrs Maisel,,,, Lenny is there.

Just as a way out, some funny blues lyrics.

Enjoy

Honey Where the money go, Honey where the money gone
Where the money go, I been working two jobs baby
Bring you all my dough, Now they say you got another man
And your leave me right away
What happened to all that cash Been keepin for a rainy day
Well there's one thing one thing, One thing I want to know
I don't care where the lovin went, Baby where did the money go

Can't move round this old house For catalogs and shoppin bags
Meanwhile they reposess The only car I ever had
Took away my TV set And cancelled my Credit ring
Can't find those dollar bills I been keepin in a coffee can
Well there's one thing one thing, One thing that I want to know
I don't care where the lovin went, Baby but Honey where did the money go

Baby you look so good In your brand new dress
I wondered how you paid for that Now you just let me guess
Now you say you're movin on Headin where the livin is fine
How come I get the feelin that It cost me my last dime
Well there's one thing one thing, One thing I really want to know
I don't care where the lovin went, Baby, but Honey where did the money go

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Dennis - In your youth, were you running with Tony and Bobby and Paulie and the other Sopranos??

I'm from Jersey, you might know an Eye-talian or two. Funny thing, though the big whine there is "not all Italians are in the mafia",,,, but all Italians tell you about their Uncle who is connected!

My one buddy, Johnny the Nose, his uncle specialized in weed and fireworks. Yes, fireworks. Illegal in NY/NJ, but Johnny boy would sell massive amounts for his Uncle (his Italian Uncle). When I was very young and shining shoes in bars, there was "Harry the Horse", had trunk loads of "stuff" all the time. Always had a load of 8 tracks for sale. Then there was Charlie, he acquired nice camera equipment and calculators when they first came out. Sold a shit load of cameras, film and calculators for him. Sold a load to teachers in my high school. My old man, though not Italians (but usually had choice things to say about the ones down the street), moved quite a bit of "warm" stuff.

Maybe I just grew up poor-ish. Like Mrs Simmel says in Python's Piranha Brother skit - Kipling Road was a typical sort of Eastend street, people were in and out of each other's houses with each other's property all day. They were a cheery lot.

Like the song says, just life on the poor side of town!

Didn't leave a horse head in anyone's bed,,,,, but may have supplied a horse or two. That's probably a buried secret so keep it to yourself.

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Your story and the characters you ran with would make a hell of a book, Dennis!! Embrace your New Jersey!

“Everything is legal in New Jersey”
From the play Hamilton,' Lin-Manuel Miranda

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I’ve had Lotta Love stuck in my head all morning lol.
The Neil Young version, though doesn’t Nicolette accompany?
Man, haven’t heard that in fo-ever!

My cousin Dennis, fo-git a boutit
Don’t fo-git Pussy and Silvio!
Gotta a steady job, hauling items for the mob
The pay was pathetic, it’s a shame those boys couldn’t be more copacetic!

Fucking Hunter, who else, maaaayybe Dylan, would use copacetic in a rock song!
Brilliant!

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Maybe in Hurricane?
In Jersey everything's legal.
As long as you don't get caught.
Cheers

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That Mike, I don't know what version of Lotta Love you've got stuck in your head, but that Nicolette Larson version is genuine, pure late 1970's, easy listening, gold. If you're not feeling it that way I suggest just sitting down and putting the official video on utoob on loop and settling in until that 1970's "have a nice day" smile spreads across your face of its own volition. Once you've got it, let everybody you meet today know by flashing that smile and telling them to have a nice day!

As an alternative, if you simply must get it out of your head I would suggest repeated viewing of the classic, bitter, after the love is gone, hit Fuck You by CeeLo Green off his Lady Killer album. If you can watch the first part of the video to that track, with the little kid version of CeeLo walking into the diner at the start of the video, and not crack up you're missing something that I seem to have in abundance - call it an appetite for low brow humor. After a few viewings you should be free and clear of the Lotta Love earworm. Now that you've got the CeeLo Green track in your mind, let everybody know when you meet them today and give 'em a perky ...

I love unusual/seldom used words in songs and yeah, copacetic is one of them. Any other song use it?

Motown seems to use the word "gloom", not a rare word, but odd song word. Gloom in Wish it Would Rain and 7 rooms of gloom.

Smoke Gets in your eyes uses "Chaffed",,,, except for parties I've never "chaffed".

Other odd words?

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That's how you tell reall Jersey people. We say "Jersey", not "New Jersey".

..... where ya from? Jersey

:-)

Back to typing song titles in!

check u-boob "Choir From Hell Trip McCool"

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Hey Charlie - I wasn’t being dismissive to Ms Larsen with “silly”, perhaps I should have found a better word. Regardless, not to worry, I’ve had “California Dreamin’” stuck in my head all morning.

Dennis - My apologies- Jersey. Just Jersey. Maybe I play some music from Frank, The Chairman himself, as penance? Or some Bon Jovi (or is it just Jovi…?)

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Just finished listening to that 27 minute Don't Let Go from the Pure Jerry release, and yes it is incredible, so no worries about the use of the word "silly" in reference to Nicolette. I just couldn't resist expressing my mock horror. Hopefully nobody interpreted it as sincere condemnation for a goof about an easy listening earworm.

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I grew up in Orange County, NY, so that NY-NJ-PA tri-state area, so definitely some New Jersey influences on the speech patterns. And the New Jersey transplants I knew were Scott from Jersey and Andy from Jersey, no New involved. When I moved to MT it took a little while to slow down when I talked, 'cause folks out here just talk a bit slower than in NY and NJ. Other differences as well obviously, had to make some vocabulary adjustments too. One of the things that I find relaxing about the Sopranos is just hearing familiar speech patterns.

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....that's a damn good band!
Dire Wolf
Doin' That Rag
Mr. Charlie
Jack Straw
Airline To Heaven
US Blues
NFA
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Shakedown Street
Viola Lee Blues
Pride Of Cucamonga
New Speedway Boogie
Franklin's Tower
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Via Chicago
Ripple

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