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    A sealed, unlabeled box sat undisturbed for decades on a shelf in the Grateful Dead’s San Rafael tape vault on Front Street, its contents an enduring mystery, even to those few with access to the vault. All David Lemieux knew about that box when he became the Dead’s archivist was that it contained tapes belonging to Bear—Owsley Stanley, the Dead’s first soundman and architect of the Wall of Sound. Even in the Dead Heads’ Holy of Holies, the taped-up box was tantalizing. But this was Bear’s personal property, and so he didn’t touch the box out of an abiding respect for the elder luminary of sound. Bear’s archive of Sonic Journal recordings had been kept safe for him for years within the Grateful Dead’s vault—over 1,300 reels of tape stored in heavy-duty cartons like old banana boxes. At any time, David could have popped the tops and explored them to his archivist heart's content. But they were off-limits without the nod from Bear. - Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell, Owsley Stanley Foundation

     

    With a wink and a nod from Bear, we've peeled back those banana boxes to find some of the oldest and rarest of all recordings of the Dead including the double dose of shows that make up DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43. The two virtually complete performances from San Francisco 11/2/69, Live At Family Dog At The Great Highway, and from Dallas 12/26/69, McFarlin Auditorium, are complementary in their clarity and consistency thanks to Bear himself, and in their ability to foreshadow where the Dead were headed in the years to come. If the two killer 20-minute+ "Dark Stars" don't get ya, how about the Pigpen-centric sets featuring "Midnight Hour," "Next Time You See Me," "Big Boss Man," "Good Lovin'," and the once-lost-now-found complete rendition of "Dancing In The Streets," or the first full acoustic set ever performed? And we're certain you'll be fascinated to uncover the "Mystery Of Bear's Banana Boxes" as told by Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell in the liners.

     

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43 was recorded by Owlsey "Bear" Stanley and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

     

    *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • #1131
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    Simple must do audio rules

    There are many things that can be done to get your system set up correctly that often can facilitate noticeable performance improvements equal too or greater than any electronics! Best part, they cost little or nothing!

    SPEAKER PHASING: one of the most notorious mistakes that makes a huge noticeable difference and is super easy.
    Make sure your positive amp/receiver terminal is connected to the positive of the speaker, ON BOTH speakers!!
    So positive to positive, negative to negative etc. on both speakers.
    If one is wired opposite of the other, your speakers are out of phase which means their working against each other instead of with each other. Speakers move back and forth, or in and out. If one is wired out of phase that means one speaker is pushing air out while the other speaker is pulling back in, thus effecting bass coupling dramatically! So what you say? You will likely laugh or gasp at how much better your speakers sound (bass enhancement) when you hear them in phase after getting used to them being out!

    SPEAKER HEIGHT: the tweeter should always be placed at ear height. So if using stand speakers, measure so stand places the speakers tweeter exactly at listening position ear height. In conekids case he’s a little higher, which might effect his main position, but since he’s trying to cover 2 zones IR areas it’s a trade off. This is an example of how the situation may dictate slight tweaks, but you should at least start following these rules then tweek.

    SPEAKER PLACEMENT: optimally should form an equilateral triangle: same distance from listening position to each speaker, and same distance between speakers. This can be tweaked depending on several variables.
    Spread them out too far and you lose acoustic coupling and stereo imaging etc., too close together and your sound field collapses and you lose stereo effect etc. This is something you can play with and doesn’t cost anything.
    Obviously you should try to avoid placing objects in front of speakers…
    They should be placed along a wall, but out from the wall. Too close to the wall causes boundary issues that make bass bloated and unnaturally loud etc. Too far out from the wall and they can sound too thin (not enough bass).
    Again, depending on your speakers and other factors you can play with this until you get it right.
    Same with listening position: if you sit too close to any wall, but especially the back wall you’ll again suffer from boundary issues that unnaturally bloat/muddy bass.
    Really you should never put speakers or listening position next to a wall!

    RULE OF THIRDS: look it up. Though using the third dimension is usually not practical, the rule of fifths is and works perhaps better. What’s that you say? Divide your room into fifths. Place the speakers one fifth of the way in from the side walls, leaving three fifths between them. So a 20’ room would have the center of each speaker 4’ from the side walls with 12’ between speaker center points. Then, to form the equilateral triangle, measure 12’ from the center of each speaker to your ear position at your listening sweet spot! Depending on your speakers you may want to toe them in slightly versus having them point directly forward. Again, play around and tweek. Tweeting should be done vary slightly, sometimes an inch or two can make a big difference! Be slow and methodological.

    SUB WOOFERS: I’m not a fan of subs for 2 channel stereo, but they can be a necessity for small bookshelf speakers etc.
    Subs suffer even more from boundary issues described above! Corners are usually the worst place to put a sub woofer!
    Here’s a trick. Place your sub in your listening position and put on some bass active music you know well. Now crawl around on the floor and listen. When you find the place the bass sounds best, put your sub there. This is a cheap down and dirty way to deal with room modes, one of the biggest negative factors in music enjoyment. (Look them up).
    I have a fairly large above average system in a dedicated room, but my room is too narrow for my system so I often have horrible bass bloat issues because of these room modes etc. (funny but it’s mostly only a problem with old Dead when Phil was still playing Alembic lol). Usually I can just roll off a little of my 30 hertz eq nob on my C 40 pre amp. I have a DSP room unit that uses excellent Dirac SW, but haven’t gotten around to it (slacker).
    There are many solutions and sometimes DSP can help (but that won’t do pure analog folks much good) but often the best way to deal with many of these issues is to follow these fairly simple rules and play around with things.

    Oh, lastly. You can help smooth out your room by dampening first reflection points. There’s diffusion and absorption and more. But to keep it simple. We’ll just look at some basics.
    Have someone with a mirror move along the side wall with the mirror. The place where you can see the speaker in the mirror while being seated in the listening position is the first reflection point. Put something (all kinds of things both diy and professional) in that spot along the wall (and ceiling if you want to go the extra distance) that will absorb the sound, so that your hearing the direct sound from the speaker without the phase issues and coloration of the reflected sound off the wall. This is another simple but big improvement.
    You can experiment with placing adsorption in other obvious places like directly back from the speakers on the opposite wall. If you have a big room, perhaps look at second reflection points.

    NOTE: this is not sound proofing! That is a whole other field above and behind this tutorial. Save your money! Putting egg crates, foam, or most of the items for sale on line DO NOT WORK! They will not stop bass from passing through walls and structure! Some of these products may help the sound in the room, but will do nothing for stopping it’s transmission out of the room!

    SPEAKER ISOLATORS: another thing you just have to try. Using the pointy spikes or not for speaker feet. Sometimes they help other times you may want to isolate your speakers from the floor to eliminate too much bass and our help with transference to another room or dwelling.
    Oh, use a heavy carpet on the floor at least between the speakers and listening position if not bigger. Put this is yet another situational thing that you may have to play with.

    Remember folks: the situation is the boss!
    Hope this helps!

    HDCD: if everything is set up and functioning properly you can hear a difference. How noticeable or if noticeable will depend on your equipment, set up and ears. If you have a nice system and actually play discs, you might find some improvements but for many you might not really hear a difference, certainly not a huge difference so I wouldn’t worry too much about it. Following the above mentioned rules as much as possible will!

    Oh, ps, the above assumes best case practices. As no room is perfect, and some are just plain awful, and many of us need to live with our significant others, ahem, obviously not everyone will be able to follow all of these.

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    Cnkd - It never occurred to me at the time that I could have asked for a brand new replacement. The replacement from the shop floor is better - the first one used to skip tracks out - with this one it's just the delay in registering which track is playing by about a second that's a bit odd. It plays to perfection apart from that. And really sounds good.

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    Good talk.

    More important to system?

    Listening!!!

    When I bought my system the guy told me, you will not hear what this system does, while doing the dishes, while cleaning, while doing anything else. You have to sit and listen.

    It's true.

    Sound systems and people are a funny thing. I think MOST people listen to the radio and only own a handful of cd's/albums, usually the stuff they listen to in high school or college,,,, after that they stop buying. Kids today seem to live off spot-e-fied and own nothing. I have found the largest genre in people's collection is christmas albums (go figure!)

    I think this group of people are the exception to that.

    What'd ya think?

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    Since there's a CD player discussion going on...

    For people who are listening on HDCD players, what sort of improvement can you hear in the audio? I would think there is some discernable improvement.

    I think I've listened to these shows 10x each. Moved on to others in the time period. Doing Dick's Picks 4 at the moment. I was not hardcore into the Dead when it was released. I imagine people were reacting even more positively into it than even this Dave's Picks, due to the Fillmore legend of the Feb 13 & 14 shows when it came out. Was there a discussion board up at the time to spread the enthusiasm?

    Vguy - good to see the red dice and green felt has returned - it's positively you.

    Nitecat - also digging TC's contributions on these shows. When he was "on" and audible, he really filled out their sound nicely.

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    Wow, Daverock that’s a pricey player to be malfunctioning, and then be replaced by a floor model (which apparently has the same defect). They should have given you a new one from the factory.

    I thought that my new Cambridge Audio CD player was defective but then realized that my Vizio TV remote interferes with it. I had the TV on and was going through the menu adjusting settings but every time I hit a button on the TV remote the CD player would jump tracks or stop playing. Was relieved to find that the CD player was fine.

    Nick, go with what sounds best to you.

    Last night spun the Anthem of the Sun CD that I bought in 1989 (it’s the 1971 remix) and it sounded pretty dull.
    Then put in Steppin’ Out CD3 and started at Truckin’. Sounded better, but not that great.
    DaP43 sounds far superior to those older CD’s.

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    Magic Ingredient

    To me, the best sounding recordings I ever heard were the first ones I got, between 1971 and about 1978. They were records, and what made them great was the magic ingredient. It had nothing to do with what I played them on. If your system captures that-you've got it. For me you can no more improve on that than you can The Grand Canyon

    Nick1234 - having said that, I got a Rega Saturn-R cd player about 3 years ago. And it sounds great - but the first one I bought had to go back to the shop after about 9 months, as some cds wouldn't play-and others jumped to the 3rd or 4th track when I wanted to hear the 1st one. They eventually replaced it with a display model from the shop floor. That is great - although I have noticed that half way through a cd...when the music for track 4 starts, the display unit still shows track 3 for a few seconds - it is slightly behind the music. But the sound quality is top notch. As for the magic ingredient....

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    I joke, but my wife has put up with my idiosyncrasies and such for 30 years, 36 if you count the time we were together before getting married. She deserves a medal, 'cause I am aware that I can be a difficult person to live with sometimes.

    The speakers have a clear pretty clear path to spread the sound around the space and the actual speakers are at the upper two thirds of about a 43 inch high tower, so a bit above the ground, and built to tilt ever so slightly to direct the sound slightly upward and fill the space nicely, so I exaggerate about the impediments, or more accurate to say I just get a little obsessive about the impediments to the sound.

    For tonight's classic '70s movie I went with the Godfather, the first one. I've watched it several times before but it never disappoints, I love that movie every time. A near perfect movie, weirdly gratifying.

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    While we're on the subject can I ask for a bit of advice? I'm in the market for a new system and at the moment I'm thinking of a Naim Supernait 3 amp and B&W 702 S2 speakers. I can audition these at my local hifi dealer. What CD player to accompany these? I'm not going for a turntable at the moment. I have 5 weeks to audition anything at my local shop before I move to the Shetland Islands and there's no hifi dealer there that I'm aware of so it's now or never. I'd sort of like to support Rega as their factory is about a mile from my current house but at these prices I'll go for the best fit for my ears.

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    Also point out....

    ....that at concerts, they raise the stacks on cables for maximum efficiency.

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    Point out to your wife that at concerts they don’t put the speakers on the floor, that would block the sound.

    My kitchen and living room are connected end-to-end, about 12 feet wide, so not a huge area to fill with sound. The speakers in the air project the sound into the kitchen perfectly, with the sweet spot from the front of the couch back to the island in the kitchen. Can also see the TV on the wall from the kitchen.
    It’s just me and my dog, so I can turn the volume up as loud as I want.

    I’ve had this new CD player for 2 weeks and have also been playing non-GD CD’s to see how they sound. The Cambridge Audio dealer that I got it from said that it needed about 100 hours of use to get broken in so I’ve been spinning CD’s instead of using my iBasso music player.
    Once the CD player is broken in I might then run it into the DAC via stereo RCA cables which I did at first, and it boosts the signal by about 20 dB according to having to turn down the volume, but I wanted to break it in sending the signal to the receiver.

    Spinning Rush - Exit Stage Left currently.
    This morning was Floyd - More and then Piper.
    I’m thinking next the Anthem of the Sun CD I bought in 1989, want to see if that sounds good or if it’s a victim of crappy 80’s mastering.

    The iBasso music players come with a burn-in adapter which simulates the electrical resistance of being plugged into a stereo system. You plug that in and put a show on loop and just let it run for about 50 hours, and then it’s supposed to be broken in.

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A sealed, unlabeled box sat undisturbed for decades on a shelf in the Grateful Dead’s San Rafael tape vault on Front Street, its contents an enduring mystery, even to those few with access to the vault. All David Lemieux knew about that box when he became the Dead’s archivist was that it contained tapes belonging to Bear—Owsley Stanley, the Dead’s first soundman and architect of the Wall of Sound. Even in the Dead Heads’ Holy of Holies, the taped-up box was tantalizing. But this was Bear’s personal property, and so he didn’t touch the box out of an abiding respect for the elder luminary of sound. Bear’s archive of Sonic Journal recordings had been kept safe for him for years within the Grateful Dead’s vault—over 1,300 reels of tape stored in heavy-duty cartons like old banana boxes. At any time, David could have popped the tops and explored them to his archivist heart's content. But they were off-limits without the nod from Bear. - Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell, Owsley Stanley Foundation

 

With a wink and a nod from Bear, we've peeled back those banana boxes to find some of the oldest and rarest of all recordings of the Dead including the double dose of shows that make up DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43. The two virtually complete performances from San Francisco 11/2/69, Live At Family Dog At The Great Highway, and from Dallas 12/26/69, McFarlin Auditorium, are complementary in their clarity and consistency thanks to Bear himself, and in their ability to foreshadow where the Dead were headed in the years to come. If the two killer 20-minute+ "Dark Stars" don't get ya, how about the Pigpen-centric sets featuring "Midnight Hour," "Next Time You See Me," "Big Boss Man," "Good Lovin'," and the once-lost-now-found complete rendition of "Dancing In The Streets," or the first full acoustic set ever performed? And we're certain you'll be fascinated to uncover the "Mystery Of Bear's Banana Boxes" as told by Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell in the liners.

 

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43 was recorded by Owlsey "Bear" Stanley and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

 

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Submitted by Cousins Of The… on Sat, 09/17/2022 - 11:33

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Shipped on Wednesday, hit my mailbox this morning; they also sent several tracking emails along the way - great service.
Vinyl is flat, blemish-free and sounds fantastic! Nice to have a full size booklet(love the S.S.F. banner, which was my home for many years.)
Great mail day, also got a sealed copy of DaP 43. To top it off, I have the house to myself.

Maybe if they were to reissue some, but not all of them on cd, it would make sense to focus on the ones that are partial shows, and release them, in superior sound in their entirety. All the first 4 are excerpts only. Number 26 is-that would make a great release if the whole of 4/26/69 came out. This one has been re-released on vinyl, but as a replica of the old cd. Another one that would benefit from a move to whole show status would be number 31, from summer 1974. A real hotch potch, that one. You can never be sure what the heck you are listening to there unless you have a copy of a trusty Deadbase to hand. There may be others - 18 from 1978 is another one.

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Submitted by billy the kiddd on Sat, 09/17/2022 - 15:13

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If they remastered 2/13 & 14/70, and put all the songs together as they appeared in concert, it would be an absolute knockout!

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Submitted by alvarhanso on Sat, 09/17/2022 - 17:18

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I'm usually more of a whole show person, but do gravitate to particularly strong compilations. Funny Daverock mentioned DiP 31 August 74, which is another one I like, and whole show releases on those would be outstanding.

With mention of Plangent recently, I thought I should point out an oddity I saw today in that 2/28/69 has Plangent's logo and 2/27 and 3/1 do not have it.

A great release. 12 gets all the hype, but this one is just as good, maybe better.

Much like many of the later releases, I think it sounds better too.

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Sun, 09/18/2022 - 05:42

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"Don't climb on the fence idiot!"

Robert Hall Weir,
August 6, 1974

What would be even better with 2/13 and 2/14 would be if they included the early shows as well. And even better than that - if they included the early and late shows from 2/11/70. An all time great box in the making.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sun, 09/18/2022 - 08:23

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27 says ‘Plangent Process’ right under the line that says ‘Betty Cantor’ in the credits section of the insert.
28 says it on the outside of the box and also under Betty.
1 says it on the insert under Betty.

Dave, when do we get 3/2 on vinyl?

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Sun, 09/18/2022 - 08:27

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Completely on board with releases of the entire DP shows. I grabbed the remaining songs from DP 2 the other day, 10/31/71, and the missiing tracks are fantastic. Would love to have them receive the Full Norman. But I can't imagine Rhino undergoing the effort to release on CD. I would think they would think it would make for a confusing catalog. You would want to remaster them for sure as well as include the shows as complete. You couldn't call Dick's Pick 31 Dick's Picks 31 anymore. But If they released all three shows that DP 31 is compiled from under separate titles, then they would be competing with the original series (and who knows what kind of deal they struck with real gone to release the originals). And also may seem to them, not sure but it may seem to be a risky venture in the way of sales. That's for CD releases. I think what could work is a remastered download series of all the original shows. While I would certainly prefer CDs, I think the digital download method prove to be the most economical way to get the music to fans. The only problem there is file sharing could hurt their bottom line. Not really sure what the solution could be that is realistic. Dave Lemieux what do you think?

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Submitted by billy the kiddd on Sun, 09/18/2022 - 09:39

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Daverock, what a great release that would be,, it truly would be the icing on the cake.

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Submitted by Charlie3 on Sun, 09/18/2022 - 10:08

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Keithfan2112 I suspect that you are right in your post about Rhino's motivation to reissue the DP series and identified some of the issues that might deter such an endeavor, but I think that there may be more of an appetite for expanded reissues to the Dicks's Pics series than you would expect. I base this on the constant stream of remastered editions and expanded editions being put out by various classic artists.

An example that was talked about on these threads recently would be the release of the concerts that were used for the Waiting for Columbus album by Little Feat. It appeared that even though parts of these concerts were released previously, there is enough of a market to release a multi-show box of the material. Similarly, if I understand it right, the recent El Mocambo 1977 release from the Rolling Stones also contained a show that had been released in part previously. Jimi Hendrix Songs for Groovy Children included material previously partially released on Machine Gun. And then there is the Beatles section of my shelves, with the original CD releases, the complete set of 2009 remasters, and all of the 50th Anniversary Editions. Led Zeppelin, Rush, Dire Straits, the Doors, Jimi Hendrix, Traffic, Jefferson Airplane, the Kinks, the Pretenders, Fleetwood Mac, and a number of others, all are bands that have released remastered, anniversary or expanded editions of their catalogue, and which are represented in whole or part on my shelves. There are box sets with complete recording sessions for several of the classic Miles Davis albums - the Complete Silent Way sessions, the Complete Bitches Brew sessions, and the Complete Jack Johnson sessions are on my shelf along with a single disc version of each. And the Cellar Door Sessions 1970 were used in part for the Live-Evil album, both of which are on my shelf.

So at least personally, I can say there is very little chance that I would be able to resist if they updated the Dick's Picks series to include missing material from the partial show or mixed show releases. Given the apparent appetite for an endless stream of remasters, anniversary editions and expanded editions of other band's catalogues, I suspect that I am not alone.

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Submitted by alvarhanso on Sun, 09/18/2022 - 10:20

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Okay, good to know it's just labeled differently on 2/28 on the outer packaging. I didn't look at the inserts, just the back of the box and noticed the Plangent logo in the middle of the bottom of the box on 2/28 only. I haven't opened my copy of 3/1 yet as it happens. Replaced record players recently, and having an issue with the speakers now, so haven't enjoyed any vinyl for some months. Which didn't stop me from ordering DiP 33 on vinyl...

Wonder what the next Dave's Picks vinyl will be, much less Dave's 44. I'll just throw out my annual hope and prayer for 8/4/76.

Oh, and I did recently get the Bear Sonic Journals of Johnny Cash and the Chieftains (on cd). Really good stuff. Really like the book-like packaging they're using now. That is awesome, and long, detailed liner notes is also pretty fantastic. Really really hope they get to release that 1968 show with the 45 min Alligator...

And I have always had a soft spot in my heart for Bob's commentary on 8/6/74 about the guy who hurt himself climbing the fence. Truer words were never spoken.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sun, 09/18/2022 - 12:30

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Don’t know if you’ve tried this, but my turntable has a switch in the back for phono out or line out. It sounds bad if you don’t have the switch set correctly.

I might listen to one of the FW69 vinyl shows tonight.
But which one? I like them all.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 09/18/2022 - 14:24

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....AC/DC. 1983. I was a sophomore in high school when that came out.
I went to a private Christian high school.
But metal has no boundaries.
Edit. The Miami Dolphins were down 21 points going into the 4th quarter against Baltimore and won that shit.
Ergo, I'm spinning 10.26.89 Miami. Dark Dark Star.
One of my favorite songs they ever played. Outstanding.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sun, 09/18/2022 - 21:37

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Release it all

7 18 82
8 4 76

Great great great shows

PNW box
6 24 73

Rerelease Fillmore West 69!!! I have the money for it now!!!

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Submitted by PT Barnum on Mon, 09/19/2022 - 05:52

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tried to post about those 2 dark stars. access denied

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Submitted by Oroborous on Mon, 09/19/2022 - 07:49

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Yes folks our one and only HF is celebrating the 50th anniversary of his first show!
I’m kinda surprised Dave didn’t foster a special release of this momentous “fall 72” show, but at least we’ll be spinning it on pick of the day in his honor!
To many more amigo!

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Mon, 09/19/2022 - 08:28

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To all our friends here that are part of the British Empire.
Or is it the Commonwealth?
God save the King

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Submitted by Nick1234 on Mon, 09/19/2022 - 09:25

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Commonwealth, the Empire thankfully is long gone, but thank you anyway.

I haven't watched any of it, why would you want to treat a family's grief as entertainment? No wonder they're all a bit weird, their lives must have been constant torture. Time to abolish the monarchy and let them live their lives in peace. I'm a republican on compassionate grounds 🙂

I was going to post about that show in response to the discussion about partial releases. As long as it included the Dark Star and NFA segment, I doubt anyone would complain if that show was released as an incomplete show. At least not after you hear it.

Don't get me wrong, I would prefer complete shows, but will always take something like that. The results from the recent small, informal survey suggest that I am probably not alone. DP 2, 4 and 12 fared quite well.

Years of hard living takes it's toll.

HendrixFreak looks rough for being only 50.

Get some rest HF, maybe some Noxzema on the wrinkles. Stay away from the hard liquor. I would say stop chasing young girls, but apparently, they were your age afterall...

As for 9/19/70, one of the great yet to be released shows of one of the more prolific years in their touring career. It's not if but when this gem will receive the Full Norman and grace our CD shelves.

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Submitted by daverock on Mon, 09/19/2022 - 12:05

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Istshow - thanks for the good cheer. My views on the subject are more in line with those expressed by Nick1234-but that's bye the bye.
I must say I am very impressed that some people on here seem to know the date of HF's first show. I don't even know the date of my own - and I only saw 5.

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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Mon, 09/19/2022 - 13:24

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Had an (Jimi thang) itch for something wild that I hadn't seen in a while. Have had the disk (Wild Blue Angels dvd) in the que for a couple of months, but last night got to it. So I watched it last night and wow it is so great. Just forgot how good a show that was, so many great song renditions, LOVE machine gun. I found it an odd coincide, that Jimi opens the show with a little speech about supporting your own people, and if you don't FU. Then opens with God Save The Queen. Sort of blew me away. Understand HF's name that much more. If you have bought the Wild Blue Angel dvd, your missing out. As I had not heard since I added a sub woofer, it was all new again.

Jim and HF, I think I remember both of you dealing with health issues and maybe folks issues a couple of months back. Meant to express condolences and well wishes for both of you. Getting old can really suck.

Finally, a huge Thank You to Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, Pete Bell, Dave, and Jeffrey (and all the others as well) for #43 . It has absolutely transformed me in so many ways. Have listened to the release 10 times now and it just gets better and better. I had this incredible epiphany of just how much Dead there could still to be released in the future and this Great Blanket of Joy came across me and I felt so fortunate that the band of merry pranksters found me 40 years ago. I am so very excited about the future of entertainment coming my way. Just extremely grateful. As someone wrote when this came out...these are some of Bear's Choicest releases. Can only imagine if the tape machine had been set at 7ips, how much increased clarity would be there. Makes me wonder if that clarity would be for Phil's sound.

Have a lot to post, wonder if anyone saw Trey Anastasios' booking for acoustic solo shows at the Beacon in NYC. The Beacon has just hard wired in a new immersive technology P.A. from Holoplot out of Germany. Looks like a wild P.A. but they act like they re-invented the wheel, when all they have done is copy Bear, Healy, and John Myers work. Would love to hear that system, but the immersive technology they speak about is what I and many others called Holographic Sound. I think ConeKid posted when I posted an article about Meyer's sound and seeing the FTW shows with his latest and greatest system (and that was 7 years ago). If you see this ConeKid, I wanted to post back about how great that must have been and ask, how Holographic did the sound seem for these shows? As I have posted, my first real experience with line arrays and holographic sound was 1987/09/11 at the Cap Center in Landover. I remember Jim commenting how bad the sound was unless you had choice seats. I guess I had choice seats as we were on row 2 behind Healy and it sounded incredible. So any way, more rants later.

But again, I cannot express my gratitude enough for the crew that brought us DaV#43.

G

The sound at FTW depended where I was.
First night I was upper level side (Jerry side), but 2nd row, aisle seat, with the first speaker tower pointing right at me. The sound was crystal clear.
Second night lower bowl near stage, Phil side, but just under the overhang which amplified all the voices behind me and muddied the sound a bit.
Third night I was straight back about half way up the bowl. There I got the full effect of the sound system and it was real and spectacular.

Here’s the video, the audio was recorded in mono and split to stereo when I processed the video.

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Let’s see if that works. Piece them back together. Yes, that period belongs between the u and b.

Wild Blue Angel,
I need to buy that.

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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Mon, 09/19/2022 - 16:38

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It worked...have bookmarked the show, will try to run through it the next few days. Thanks!!!

Trying to get ready for some time down on the gulf, been a while since I have been. A good week of friends and parties.

Edit: and if any body cares search for Immersive Sound at the Beacon and it will pull up. Going to be installed at MSG Sphere being built in Las Vegas that opens next year.

Cheers to all, no it is pushed back but can't wait for the new box. And my DiP top 5 the same as BTK, just little different order.

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Submitted by gratefulgerd on Mon, 09/19/2022 - 17:11

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Just returned from the DSO - Europe '72 - 50th Anniversary Tour - Frankfurt.
Awesome!
They played the original set from 04/26/72, over 4 hours in total. Great vibes!
What a scene, old memories came up, absolutely fantastic.
Their next shows are Berlin tomorrow and Munich on Thursday. Seems like Wednesday they have a day off. Would be good for visiting Oktoberfest.
Cheers G.

All are recovering on my end, thanks for asking. The alternative in both cases was grim. Everything is not perfect, but thanks to modern medicine they both have more fuel to add to the fire.

Speaking of fire.. I hit 11/30/80 a week or so ago and they played 10/31/80 on SiriusXM. Two hot early 80's Fires. Smokin' (pun intended).

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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Tue, 09/20/2022 - 11:49

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I hate watching friends and loved ones starting to struggle with this life. Life is a struggle, that is why we play Dead.

For some interesting reading on immersive sound check out interviews from Widescreen review with Wilfried Van Baelen of Galaxy studios and the founder of Auro 3D. I think the 2 in depth ones I read were from five or more years ago? I’d add lynx if I could.
Way better than Atmos but needs to be set up properly so it will produce phantom images in the vertical as well as horizontal plane.
I use it all the time in our theatre especially for concert videos as it adds a more holographic psychoacoustic effect than goofy placement of instruments in back speakers etc, very natural sounding!
Atmos is ok if your watching an Atmos encoded movie, but otherwise meh…
Being a fellow geek I bet you’ll dig it, if you can find the right interviews?

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Submitted by nappyrags on Tue, 09/20/2022 - 13:14

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Been super busy AND under the weather...Tivoli info was from an email I received...

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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Tue, 09/20/2022 - 13:36

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Jim check PM

OB: thanks I think I found them, will have to read and get back to you.

Makes me go back almost 40 years when I went to an friend's house and he and another freak had large tower Polk speakers. Will have to research some, maybe get back in touch with my friend about them. They had a cable between the two speakers to create (by software) an imagined center speaker. It worked really well as you may know. It was the same technology that Bear was working on with the microphones for the WoS. That is, if memory serves. Been a while since I went back through that stuff. My tv and my old stereo (2 stereo speaker sets with sub) create amazing sound at times. I mean hearing sounds to my side and behind my head. I know this has a lot more to do with software than hardware. I think it is awesome, except when it startles me, still getting used to it. Any way will be back in touch after I do a little reading, cant wait. Thanks!

G

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Tue, 09/20/2022 - 14:02

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Thx Gary Farseer for your comments. Glad you're enjoying our man Jimi.

Back on the upswing here... lost the 20+ year cat, then my father, both of whom lived very full lives and their demises in May and June, respectively, were merciful. Lined myself up for a cardiac ablation procedure for atrial fibrillation, which is quite challenging to endure. Procedure in November. Prognosis: good. And just got a second opinion on my ankle for which I had arthroscopic surgery last December and which was not healing. Looks better now (MRI) for gradually pushing myself to recovery; shots lined up for the knee (fractured, inoperable cartilage cracks). Carpal tunnel syndrome demands attention and thinking, after enduring it 30 years, that surgery might be a rational option. Other than a few trivial things like those, LIFE IS FUCKING GREAT! Seriously, just a positive prognosis in several areas does so much to lift the lid of depression. So, despite the seemingly downer, TMI content here, I'm actually very optimistic for my physical and mental health. Talk about over-sharing.... But that's my message: glass is half-full, I'm gonna pull it together.

Heading to the Oregon coast tomorrow for two weeks to walk the beaches, eat a little psylicibin (and seafood), work on new tunes for another album of original music with a 6-strg and a neat newish 12-strg (then an all-blues project) and get outta Dodge for the first time in years. Well we did just do 50 miles in packrafts (all upper body stuff) on the Green River. (JimInMD: we did a dozen Class IIs and one Class III the first day, then we had beer coolers stashed at our camping spots, reachable by four-wheel drive, so a highly disciplined trip...)

I have been pummeled by time and age and now that I'm on Medicare, you all are kindly helping me with expensive but badly needed medical help. Looking foward to some smokin' '81 GD, Jimi from LA/'69 and a dozen other 'new' CDs I copied for the road. I asked a 29-year-old waitress pal to go with me, but she had to work. Nonetheless, that proves that I'm "up" for the challenges before me.... Yours truly, HF

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Tue, 09/20/2022 - 14:07

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I cannot effin' wait for 90 minutes of live GD from E72. Man, we're gonna rock at a local theatre with local freaks in early November. Talk about a dream come true! No film of the band can best a night from the E72 tour.

Yet another reason to be glad to be alive amidst ... well, you know the score.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Tue, 09/20/2022 - 20:08

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Yes, can't wait for the MUATM.

Keep breathing out there Hendrixfreak.

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Submitted by Jack Baller on Tue, 09/20/2022 - 21:05

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I don't often post here, but when I do... it might be with a few brews under my belt and an anniversary to consider.

Can't say how much I appreciate the way that this crew inspires me to break out discs I haven't heard in a while... DP 36 being the most recent. Wow.

Listening right now to an acoustic Truckin' (yep, process that) from 52 years ago. 9/20/70 needs to be officially released, with Full/Partial/Whatever Normanization...soon. If for no other reason than I need to determine whether I love the 5/15 Easy Wind better than the one on 9/20.

As posted previously, DaP (46) could easily carry 9/20 with a killer bonus disc of 9/19.

DaP 43 topical question: is the engineer worried that the train will actually crash?

Or is he concerned that his job has just been outsourced to a more competent monkey?

Good luck. It's hard to know at this age, when some new pain develops if it's something that can be rectified, or if it's something that is now a part of us. Should we be, like, really worried - or just forget about it?

I'd be all for 9/19 and 9/20/70 coming out officially. Top medicine.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Wed, 09/21/2022 - 07:31

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You missed your party!
We even had cake!

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 09/21/2022 - 08:02

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With lots of acid in the icing.. Sorry you missed it.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Wed, 09/21/2022 - 10:07

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Yeah that cake was tasty, but I still feel kinda funny?

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Submitted by PT Barnum on Wed, 09/21/2022 - 12:12

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u still sick? man, get well soon m8. Most anything from fall 1970 would be sweet. My list of aliments isn't that long, feeling better now. Hope we don't start comparing ailments here, gee, sounds like the talk I hear when I go to the old folks home to visit my 95 year old mother-in-law. All kidding aside, just this year I too have been feeling my age.

You're welcome HF. I started looking back at Hendrix and you know how it goes when the rabbit hole swallows you. Starting thinking back about how good the Experience Hendrix show I saw in 2019, wow, miss 2019. It was a great show, but compared to BWA it pales in comparison. Started me looking for other Hendrix official and unofficial releases. Going to find something I am sure, any recommendations would be most appreciated.

Uber space cake, smoke in the cake, acid in the icing? wow not sure I would handle that well now, would have loved in times gone by.

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