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    A sealed, unlabeled box sat undisturbed for decades on a shelf in the Grateful Dead’s San Rafael tape vault on Front Street, its contents an enduring mystery, even to those few with access to the vault. All David Lemieux knew about that box when he became the Dead’s archivist was that it contained tapes belonging to Bear—Owsley Stanley, the Dead’s first soundman and architect of the Wall of Sound. Even in the Dead Heads’ Holy of Holies, the taped-up box was tantalizing. But this was Bear’s personal property, and so he didn’t touch the box out of an abiding respect for the elder luminary of sound. Bear’s archive of Sonic Journal recordings had been kept safe for him for years within the Grateful Dead’s vault—over 1,300 reels of tape stored in heavy-duty cartons like old banana boxes. At any time, David could have popped the tops and explored them to his archivist heart's content. But they were off-limits without the nod from Bear. - Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell, Owsley Stanley Foundation

     

    With a wink and a nod from Bear, we've peeled back those banana boxes to find some of the oldest and rarest of all recordings of the Dead including the double dose of shows that make up DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43. The two virtually complete performances from San Francisco 11/2/69, Live At Family Dog At The Great Highway, and from Dallas 12/26/69, McFarlin Auditorium, are complementary in their clarity and consistency thanks to Bear himself, and in their ability to foreshadow where the Dead were headed in the years to come. If the two killer 20-minute+ "Dark Stars" don't get ya, how about the Pigpen-centric sets featuring "Midnight Hour," "Next Time You See Me," "Big Boss Man," "Good Lovin'," and the once-lost-now-found complete rendition of "Dancing In The Streets," or the first full acoustic set ever performed? And we're certain you'll be fascinated to uncover the "Mystery Of Bear's Banana Boxes" as told by Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell in the liners.

     

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43 was recorded by Owlsey "Bear" Stanley and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

     

    *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • #301
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    To my understanding, it's not the storms that are being caused by global warming. It's the frequency and intensity of the storms that global warming is affecting.

    Now, saw Nick Mason's Saucerful of Secrets show(I also saw the previous tour), and I'm surprised no one is talking about that. Great show, great band, fantastic song selection.

    Finally, time for a little Steppenwolf, since we're on the subject of bands that don't get much mention on here.

    Waiting for the Dave's 44 announcement. Should be about 3 1/2 weeks away.

  • #302
    PT Barnum
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    wind and rain

    during my time in Florida, it was always just a little wind and rain, never experienced a full-on hurricane until Charley in 04, but for 30 plus years before that, they were just a slight annoyance. Based on personal experience, not going back to the beginning of recorded hurricane history, just my personal experience. I loved hurricane season until 04, always good to check the fields right after a storm. Back in 96 I think it was, there was a storm named "Jerry" that formed off the coast, floated into central florida, moved back out to sea, returned a few days later, that was a great week. enough of that ok, hunker down everyone in the path of this monster storm.
    Gary, Oro, you guys are true audiophiles, and I'm sure there are others here that I don't mean to fail to mention, I used to pour over audio books and visit audiophile shops back in the day, nothing better than good clean clear loud sound, especially Grateful Dead.

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    I just want to clarify, then…

    I just want to clarify, then I’ll drop it, as I wasn’t trying to set off alarms, I am just weary of “fear” being used to wage social change now. I wasn’t denying climate change. Way too much irrefutable evidence supporting it, and as a great believer in science, I support it. However, I find every dramatic event - climate, economic, Covid - is gaining oxygen from fear. Every outcome is predicated on fear.

    Sometimes it’s hot out just because it is. I went for probably my 20th MRI last evening, and the nurse was debating if I should wear a mask, for fear of….infecting myself in a chamber the size of a coffin!?!? Fear has gotten out of hand, was my only point. Not going politics at all, I should have articulated my thoughts better.
    I do sincerely wish Floridians to stay safe.

  • #304
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    ... the hurricane that hit Galveston in 1900 was a Category 4 and was, and may still be, the deadliest weather disaster in US history, with 8000 dead. So, a little more than just a little wind, a little rain even back in 1900. There are a number of other historic hurricanes over the last hundred years that were devastating as well, the National Hurricane Center of NOAA has a list of some of the most notable.

    If you look at the records of frequency of hurricanes and tropical storms it is not entirely clear that the frequency or intensity has actually increased since the 1800s, and the effort to determine the historic frequency of these storms is complicated by the fact that our monitoring has improved so that many hurricanes that don't make landfall were likely not observed or recorded prior to our more modern monitoring abilities. Thus, our improved monitoring abilities means that we detect, observe, and record hurricanes that don't make landfall and would have likely been missed in the historic record, thereby causing an increase in the number of observed hurricanes, while leaving open the possibility that the increase is not a reflection of an actual increase in the total number of storms.

    National Hurricane Center data indicates that the decade 1941-1950 has the highest number of hurricanes that made landfall in the US at 24 total and 10 major hurricanes (Saffir-Simpson category 3 or higher) that made landfall that decade. The tie for runner up decade goes to the decades 2001-2010 and 2011-2020 which both had 19 total hurricanes that made landfall, with 2001-2010 having 7 storms listed as category 3 or higher, and 2011-2020 having 6 storms listed as category 3 or higher. The hurricane landfall data also indicates that "Before the Gulf of Mexico and Atlantic coasts became settled, hurricanes may have been underestimated in their intensity or missed completely for small-sized systems (i.e., 2004's Hurricane Charley)." The reported storm intensity does not appear to be significantly different in these decades, but of course, I haven't run a statistical analysis, just a quick comparison of reported storm intensities from NOAA resources. Of course, even within the resources provided by NOAA you can find some variation in reported storm strength, for example, the categorization of storm strength in the "US Hurricane Strikes by Decade" table on the National Hurricane Center page appears slightly different compared to the "US Hurricane Impact / Landfalls" table provided by the Hurricane Research Division, so this is just a quick review of some of the readily available data from NOAA.

    I suppose you could call this "climate change denial", but I prefer to think of it as a simple review of the hurricane data readily available from NOAA. You can draw your own conclusions from the data, or head on over to NOAA and do a deeper dive in the data. But hurricanes were always more than a little wind and a little rain.

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    It's been about a year since the discussions of stereos and such. There was also a discussion at that time about HDCD.

    On HDCD, I remember SimonRob posting that all he knows is that a light comes on. Last year at this time an old trusted cd/dvd crapped out. As y'all were talking about HDCD, I started looking for a HDCD player. I stumbled on to an old Denon cd/dvd player with HDCD compatibility. I bought the unit on ebay and with tax and shipping, it was only $90 (no remote). Well, I have a blackweb universal remote and the remote is programmable with the Denon unit. This unit arrived around October 5th or so last year. So as it was anniversary time for the Warlocks, that was the first concerts I played thru the Denon. Immediately, I found the sound enhancement was very noticeable. With HDCD, most of the expansion is in the mid to upper frequencies, which expanded the soundstage and headroom of the disks. I fell instantly in love and thank Dead.net for continuing to master in HDCD.

    I also discussed before I bought the Denon, my own stereo which I am extremely happy with. Again, 6 JBL speakers running through a large Yamaha Natural Sound Amp, with the sub frequency cross-over set at 82 Hz. The 82 Hertz cross-over is almost identical to what George Lucas had for his THX movie theater certifications. I assume most know that a cross-over is not a fixed point as there are frequencies above 82Hz the sub powers, and below 82 Hz that the Yamaha powers. However, when you cut off or cross-over the sub unit, you remove a lot or most of the work done by the Yamaha amp, which frees up the Yamaha to produce even more crystal clear frequencies as the Yamaha has been freed from trying to push the JBL's for the low end. This means much cleaner reproduction.

    I post this because I just finished re foaming the woofer surrounds on the JBL 10" woofers. They sound great now, no slight buzz or anything. It was well worth the effort. I used My Audio Addiction to acquire the re foam 10" surrounds. They may be the biggest retail provider of speaker parts kits. It is there name, all one string, at .kom. They also have tutorials on youtube, and also will fix them for you (much more than just foam surrounds), if you ship them to Audio Addiction.

    As an aside, I have pondered replacing the JBL 10" woofers with a set of old Pyle Driver woofers that I have had for 35+ years, but haven't used in about a decade. The Pyle Driver's magnets are enormous. I mentioned this to a bass player friend of mine, he only said, "You have to be careful as JBL tuned those speakers with their woofers, and a larger magnet might throw some things out of balance." Not sure about that, may still do it at some point, but adding the 12" powered subwoofer by svsound changed everything. The amp inside the svs sub is a class D power amp. From what I can tell, most large P.A. systems are now moving to powered speaker systems with class D power built in. I think it makes configuring a system (like Meyer and Featherstone (?)) did with the FTW shows.

    Any way, way too much, will post and edit.

    Hope all are ready for In and Out of the Garden (Burger). I know I am, but will still listen to 43 one more time this weekend before I break out that box.

    G

    So first edit done, still needs work.

  • #306
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    I might be in the minority here, but I hate those old black and red jerseys. The logo too. It reminds me of Trump's hairdoo. And that was not a political statement.

    It also conjures up memories of Brett Hull's goal. I don't like that either.

    I love floor standing speakers and more importantly the sound they throw off. Maybe I am old school as well, but I do get a certain satisfaction when I walk into the basement and see how their presence almost dominates the room. I own Klipsch and have for years. I have often considered "upgrading", but I am not sure how much more benefit I would derive or what would be the best brand. The other concern is that if I did upgrade, should I go the full route and purchase separate components and upgrade my receiver as well? Thoughts are welcomed.

    Two things I have learned listening to the GD channel over the past few weeks:

    - The meaning of syncopation and why it is important. I have no musical aptitude.

    - That I prefer my Grateful Dead with a single drummer and a grand piano. And I am proud to admit that.

    Yes. Pets are the best.

    Be safe Floridians.

  • #307
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    I wish we could stay off politics in this space.

  • #308
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    this thread just jumps all over the place...and I love it

    from the Good Old Grateful Dead to killer speakers and audio set ups to hockey to football to pets to...climate change denial?
    I also own a pair of B&W's and they are just the cat's meow. They pair excellently with my Altec Lansing 890 bookshelf speakers. I have seen jbl's blow, no fire, but definitely a meltdown, they sound good but are very delicate, a close friend had a pair suspended from his ceiling, not the best but ok.
    Sorry for your loss, pets are the hardest things to lose, sometimes harder than a human. People can let you down, your pet, never.
    To all you folks who live in Florida, take my word for it, you don't want to mess around with hurricanes. I survived hurricane Charley in 04, it hit with 145 mph winds, took out the power as it hit Orlando, you could see power transformers blowing up all over the place, blue flashes in the black night. The eye wall approached and hit, the 40 ft pine trees in my backyard snapped off at about 12 ft above the ground, all of them, crashing down all around us, just missing my house but taking out my neighbors right next door. The wind blew so hard, it sounded just like a train, very loud. As it passed, the eye went over, it was clear, calm and you could see stars, then the other side hit, the wind going in the complete opposite direction, finishing off the rest of the trees. Charley was moving at 25 mph and it was over in 40 mins, but the damage was done, no power for 9 days, 103 degrees in my house with no breeze. Had to go to work anyway, had to take cold showers in the dark, had to drive all over the city to find ice to keep some things cool. We left Florida 4 years later. This storm is moving at 5 mph, this will last days and the damage will be bad.
    Living in Florida for over 30 years I saw it change from a beautiful, clean paradise to a used up tourist trap. They have been doing studies in Tampa for years about salt water encroachment of the aquifer that provides the drinking water to most of the state, it has increased dramatically in recent years. Now they are having trouble with the saltwater encroaching upon the underground utilities, drain systems, etc as some days, during high tide, the water will come out of the storm drains, and spill out into the street, this is all from rising sea levels that are increasing yearly. Global warming has caused this, and it has also had an effect on the intensity of hurricanes. For 30 years, hurricanes meant "a little wind, a little rain" those days are over. Hurricanes are now more frequent and more powerful due to warming of the atmosphere. Look it up.

  • #309
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    Hunker down Florida, as this monster Ian approaches. Be safe. As for those that hit the climate change panic button with every catastrophe, know that these hurricanes have been around at least as long as Europeans have travelled the Seven Seas. There are no reliable written records of Indigenous peoples prior to these times to confirm (although oral history is quite prevalent among First Nations peoples the world over), but the belief is many of the natural weather phenomenon have always existed time immemorial. In fact, the first recorded history of the word “hurricane” was 1555, long before the Industrial Revolution. Sometimes truth matters.

    Roger Waters - hard pass. Major dick.

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    We did that Vguy. Early eighties Wild Bill or some such character said there were shows in Harshford. With no internet etc we didn’t know, someone said there was a show so we just decided to go. Needless to say when we got there it was aaaaa, surprise! But hey, it wasn’t all bad, we got a big box of donuts and enjoyed the ride lol

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A sealed, unlabeled box sat undisturbed for decades on a shelf in the Grateful Dead’s San Rafael tape vault on Front Street, its contents an enduring mystery, even to those few with access to the vault. All David Lemieux knew about that box when he became the Dead’s archivist was that it contained tapes belonging to Bear—Owsley Stanley, the Dead’s first soundman and architect of the Wall of Sound. Even in the Dead Heads’ Holy of Holies, the taped-up box was tantalizing. But this was Bear’s personal property, and so he didn’t touch the box out of an abiding respect for the elder luminary of sound. Bear’s archive of Sonic Journal recordings had been kept safe for him for years within the Grateful Dead’s vault—over 1,300 reels of tape stored in heavy-duty cartons like old banana boxes. At any time, David could have popped the tops and explored them to his archivist heart's content. But they were off-limits without the nod from Bear. - Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell, Owsley Stanley Foundation

 

With a wink and a nod from Bear, we've peeled back those banana boxes to find some of the oldest and rarest of all recordings of the Dead including the double dose of shows that make up DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43. The two virtually complete performances from San Francisco 11/2/69, Live At Family Dog At The Great Highway, and from Dallas 12/26/69, McFarlin Auditorium, are complementary in their clarity and consistency thanks to Bear himself, and in their ability to foreshadow where the Dead were headed in the years to come. If the two killer 20-minute+ "Dark Stars" don't get ya, how about the Pigpen-centric sets featuring "Midnight Hour," "Next Time You See Me," "Big Boss Man," "Good Lovin'," and the once-lost-now-found complete rendition of "Dancing In The Streets," or the first full acoustic set ever performed? And we're certain you'll be fascinated to uncover the "Mystery Of Bear's Banana Boxes" as told by Starfinder Stanley, Hawk, and Pete Bell in the liners.

 

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 43 was recorded by Owlsey "Bear" Stanley and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

 

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Wed, 09/21/2022 - 14:42

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Been saving my whole life for the perfect time for the morphine drip. I mean don't want to start too early...

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Submitted by daverock on Wed, 09/21/2022 - 16:18

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No offence intended. What I said doesn't apply in every case by any means.

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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Wed, 09/21/2022 - 16:28

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No offense taken. I post constantly about how hard it is to communicate without speaking and seeing another person. The fact that we communicate very well when you think about how hard it is to write words with context. I was just meaning we are all reaching that point in our lives where pains and issues develop and that have I always told friends and family that only real thing I want out of the medical community is to manage my pain as I get older. I have done plenty of opioids in my life, thai stick, pills, hospital drips, but fortunately I have never become addicted. But the day is coming, which I have prolonged almost as much as I can, that it becomes gimme gimme.

So no worries at all. I was kind of thinking the Eleven, this is the season of what, now...

I thought I wrote something innocent and honest...gimme

Had to edit 3 times, ooopps

the only thing worse then having no job is having one...this coming Saturday I had planned on going to The Vermillion Cliffs in No AZ to watch the Peregrine Fund do their annual release of captive bred California Condors but I have to work, the fact that I'll be driving close by the release area (Three miles) doesn't help...when this program started in the late 70's there were only 17 birds left, now there are a 117 birds flying free over No AZ & So Utah with many breeding couples and hatchlings in the wild...a little press handout

"The Peregrine Fund and Bureau of Land Management at Vermilion Cliffs National Monument are hosting a celebration on National Public Lands Day, Saturday, September 24, 2022 by releasing captive-bred California Condors at 1:00 p.m. MDT (noon MST, northern-Arizona Condor Time) to take their first flights in the wild. The event will be held in-person at Vermilion Cliffs National Monument for anyone interested in traveling to the area, and it will also be live streamed via The Peregrine Fund’s YouTube Channel."

I love this kinda stuff....

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Submitted by bluecrow on Thu, 09/22/2022 - 06:49

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I love that kind of stuff too and may try to check that out - drive is not quite as far as I thought. In the last few years condors occasionally wander over to our part of red rock country, and couple of folks I know had solid sightings maybe 7 or 8 years ago. Just now came across an article that references a prehistoric pictograph in Canyonlands that appears to be of a condor, which was news to me. Feel your pain as to work getting in the way of all the other stuff.

And yes, getting old can sort of be an ongoing "what now?" challenge. As my Dad's mentor told him when he turned 60 - "Welcome to the foothills." True that.

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Submitted by daverock on Thu, 09/22/2022 - 08:04

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Thanks, Gary. Sounds as though you handle things better than I would in your position.
Regarding online communication, one of my friends told me recently that the meaning of what we post is defined by the ones who read it - not the one who wrote it. Probably blindingly obvious - but I had never thought of it quite like that before.
re Hendrix - HF is the man - but if memory of my old bootleg is anything to go by, this 4/26/69 L.A. Forum show that's due for official release soon should set our speakers on fire.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Thu, 09/22/2022 - 08:56

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4/26/69 “due for official release soon” whhaaaa?
Do tell?
Isn’t that part of DP 26?
I know Dave has 4/23 on his “list” but haven’t heard of any new releases?

EDIT: oh, you guys are talking Jimi aren’t ya?

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Thu, 09/22/2022 - 09:14

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Read an article about how Denver's KUVO jazz radio station has been taken over by new management that doesn't want songs longer than 6-8 minutes on certain show time slots. Might as well just say none of the giants of jazz allowed. They say they're being more inclusive but their loyal listeners have watched at least 4 of their favorite DJs fired or forced out. Complete BS! Welcome to Kenny G elevator music world. And so it goes.
Cheers

And RGM still has some DP33 vinyl in the early "discounted" batch.
They say the $175 price represents a $100 discount over regular.
That would take the per LP price from around $25 each to almost $40 with shipping + tax! Didn't check if shipping is free at that level but wow, even $37.50/LP is way up there. Get it while it's hot I guess.

Welcome to Fall. Happy Equinox!

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Submitted by Oroborous on Thu, 09/22/2022 - 09:41

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That’s tragic and a major bummer as KUVO was perhaps one of the short list of great dedicated jazz stations left.
Unfortunately I haven’t listened in a couple years since they stopped broadcasting up here.
Used to be my default driving tunes : (
Progress…you can keep it!

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Submitted by That Mike on Thu, 09/22/2022 - 10:01

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1St Show - I read your piece on the Denver Jazz station regarding the 6-8 minute time limits, and that policy blows. I think you can expect that station to transition to easy listening or contemporary pop very soon. The station here in Toronto - JazzFM 91.1 - started as a college station, and has morphed into a non-profit powerhouse for great jazz, by really top notch knowledge people at the helm and the microphone. (Check them out on the Net). I support them, and aside from the very occasional PBS-like pledge drive, which are quite low key, they are a first rate station, and my go to for radio (very few commercials per federal law one of the bonuses). That sucketh about your station, and I hope there is audience blowback in Denver. A lot of arguments can be perhaps made about the true origins of rock, for example, but Jazz is quintessentially a true American art form, born and bred.

Last 5
Miles Davis - That’s What Happened (sublime)
Govt Mule/John Scofield - Sco-Mule (Allmans Meets Miles Davis)
Wilco - Whole Love (worth it for “One Sunday Morning” alone)
Jayhawks - Rainy Day Music (harmony)
Redman/Mehldau/McBride/Blade - Longgone (much better than their first release)

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Thu, 09/22/2022 - 10:27

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That article was in Colo. Public Radio news feed and I skimmed it fast but if I read it right KUVO is now in CPRs family of stations. (Edit: Colorado Public Media, a part of Rocky Mountain PBS) There was already a public meeting with a mediator with lots of folks attending but it did not sound like anything was going back in the right direction. Maybe they'll listen but one of the forced out DJs had her hours dropped so low that she lost benefits and was given a time slot she could not fulfill as it conflicted with her time to care for her dying child's medical appointments. Unbelievable. Seems impossible that a public radio entity would allow such management but again, maybe I read it wrong. I mean listener supported radio seems to work around here and KUVO was always such. I'm doing my morning listening right now to their (CPR) classical station which has always been there for me and I do donate to it annually. Maybe you'll get a transmitter now (or computer server) for KUVO Oro, but we'll see if it's worth listening to. Thanks for "listening" guys.
Cheers

Edit: Got my shipping notice for 3CD MSG but no tracking yet.

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Submitted by That Mike on Thu, 09/22/2022 - 10:32

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See PM.
Thanks for the heads up on the Allman show. Sounds great, it’s in my “to do”!
Cheers!

1St Show - That is sad what appears to be happening with the station. If listeners (or likely advertisers) want watered down pop or whatever, ok, but how does great music like Jazz get heard if it doesn’t have a broadcasting outlet? I go to the gym, and they always have that Beyoncé-ish “music” rambling on, and that’s fine if it’s your thing, but no Jazz? It’s like no Dead. Yikes!

Good luck with it 1St Show.

Oro - WTF is with your hometown Bills??? Super Bowl favourites???

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Submitted by daverock on Thu, 09/22/2022 - 10:38

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It seems to me that in striving to make something more inclusive, the people doing so often water down the thing in question, so that it loses all the qualities that made it attractive in the first place. My local library is doing all sorts of things to get more people inside - and the more it adapts, the less like a library it becomes.

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Submitted by Deadheadbrewer on Thu, 09/22/2022 - 10:39

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I've mentioned this station here before, but we're lucky here in the Twin Cities to have a member-supported Jazz station--you can stream them . . . They have had a show called Bluegrass Saturday Morning for umpteen million years, still run by the same host. Some nights you might hear the local high school jazz band, then the next night--Phish.

Jim and Hendrix, be well!

Baller, laughing about your outsourcing question. :)

Be kind, rewind.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Thu, 09/22/2022 - 12:40

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KUVO can be streamed, (or it used to be?) but I don’t have a way to do so in the car so mostly stopped listening.
I’ll have to try again on the job instead of so much Dead lol. CPR is decent, and as you say part of public radio so hopefully they won’t muck it up too much, but considering how their treating their awesome long tenured DJs, it doesn't sound like it…”nothing lasts”

DAVEROCK, funny you mention libraries. The Other One is a 20 year librarian and she is really having a hard time with what it’s becoming. Part of it is the current management regime (clueless) and part is the trends. Seems it’s just about numbers now: how many visits can we conjure etc. Programs that have nothing to do with literacy are a big trend.
Hardly anyone reads anymore, they mostly come for free daycare, internet and DVDs, which is fine, but they used to really promote literacy, especially for kids and underprivileged etc. There are staff people who actually wonder “why do we need all these books”, and their currently overpaying some “consultant” to see how they can reconfigure branch space/layouts to be used for more programs etc and remove books and reference materials for things like square dancing! I kid you not! Let’s get rid of books and have a social club 🤮
One of my favorite changes: they took out all the beautiful Stickley furniture and replaced with plastic crap! Now they want to remove beautiful stone fireplaces etc, idiots!

MIKE: sshhhhhh, don’t go jinxing things. T town ain’t the only place that’s cursed! Lol.
Oh, I listen to that Toronto station whenever I’m back in the tundra, good sheet Mon!
They used to have a great one in Bu faf BITD (Jazz 88) but not sure it’s there anymore?

DHB, nice to see ya!

Libraries are struggling. I used to spend so much time in the Library. Started when I was pre-teen but getting older. Let's say 7th grade, so age 13 or so. Used to go at that age and find all the old Rolling Stone Magazines, so read about Woodstock or the Beatles, or Jimi. Had not found the Dead yet. Loved it! Also would research stuff on micro-phish, ooops, and would go thru old local papers and stuff like the NY Times or San Fran. stuff.

Not sure if y'all saw that Archive.org is in a law suit for giving digital copies of scanned books. This back and forth has gone on for years. Now, a real law suit by copywriters/publishers. You can search something like internet archive may go out of business. So I am waiting for my cc account to close this month, then plan to donate to them. That would suck tremendously if something happened. May have to survive on donations and stop allowing free check out to people of stuff where authors et. al. don't get their fees. But that is (Bob) weird, because you can go to a library and check out books for free. Have to see where it goes.

Wonder, is their a hard drive large enough to grab the tons of data off of archive? Maybe get Amazon AWS to back up stuff.

Any input would be appreciated...

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Submitted by Oroborous on Thu, 09/22/2022 - 13:04

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Thems fightin words!
Bastardos!
Whose got the pitch forks, I’ll grad the gasoline!
This is too much!
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Oro - Not trying to jinx it, I’m all on board, would love to see the Queen City get some love, but you know what that “Great Lakes Triangle” does to sports teams here…
(Seriously though - now that the NHL is due back, keep your eye on the Sabres. Not Cup contenders this year, but they have quietly built a magnificent young team that will be a Force in 3 years or less. I’m Mike, and I personally endorse this message)
Interesting talk on the libraries, agree how they used to be great in their promotion of literacy programs for everyone, but geared to many of the disadvantaged, but like the school boards here, they have been co-opted by what I can only call a Woke & Kooky agenda now, which is a shame.
Also, I kind of remember that Buffalo jazz station - not sure if they are still around, but I know the jazz station I mentioned has a huge listener base in Western New York.
I hope things are good for you!

I still say it’s the water ; )

Hey, what do the Sabres and the Titanic have in common?
They both look good until they hit the ice!

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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Thu, 09/22/2022 - 14:12

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Dang funny joke!

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 09/22/2022 - 21:24

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....VGK paid a lot for Jack Eichel from the Sabres. Alex Tuch, Peyton Krebs, a first-round pick in 2022, and a conditional second-round draft pick for 2023. Better pay off this upcoming season or I'm going to revolt and throw stuff. October is the BEST sports month. Baseball playoffs. Football is in full swing. Hockey and squeaky shoes is starting. Cool.
Steal Your Faceoff.

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Submitted by drpryan on Fri, 09/23/2022 - 03:03

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The CD came out yesterday. Mixed by Jeff Norman at Bob Weirs TRI studio from the original 16 track analog master reel to reel recording. store Portmerch NRPS (email) this AM also announced the the LP will be out in the spring

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Submitted by That Mike on Fri, 09/23/2022 - 06:01

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A rule of thumb in contact sports like football and hockey is to avoid trading for players who have suffered significant injuries to the spinal column, ie - Jack Eichel. Unfortunately, Vegas may learn this the hard way. He is an extremely skilled player, the will is there, and he underwent an evidently novel surgical procedure, but as rule of thumb, the player is never the same. Vegas WAY overpaid for Eichel IMHO, and he is a big chunk of the payroll.
I hope he proves me wrong, I always liked him as a player, but when does someone ever get “better” from any injury to the spine or neck?

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Submitted by PT Barnum on Fri, 09/23/2022 - 06:50

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new release from 1997 live at the Fillmore. 2 CD, 4 CD, 3 LP, 6LP. So many choices. Released 11-25. Went to Petty's web site, culled from 20 shows. Looks killer

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Submitted by Crow Told Me on Fri, 09/23/2022 - 08:12

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Ordered my copy of the 10.9.81 show from Bezos and not only was it six bucks cheaper, with free shipping, but it appears that it will appear on my doorstep today, on the release date, and not, you know, next month or whenever everybody who ordered via Rhino will get theirs. Meanwhile, the t-shirt I ordered from deadnet three weeks ago for my wife's birthday (last week) is also set to arrive today. This is why I believe there are no coincidences.

I love libraries. Don't know what I would've done without 'em. The local library played a BIG role in my musical education, because the periodicals sections carried mags like Rolling Stone and NME, not to mention listening stations where I could hear Monk and Miles for the first time.

I think the difference with these digital archives is that they have a theoretically infinite copies of things. It's one thing, from the copyright holder's point of view, for a library to have one copy of a book, which they purchased, and to loan it out to one person, in one town, at a time. It's another thing to make hundreds or thousands or even millions of copies available to everyone everywhere all at once. I'm not surprised that's a Thing. People who write and publish books (or write and record music) do deserve to get paid, is my opinion, and we're going to have to work how that's going to happen in the digital world if we want to have books and music and whatnot. That lawsuit is growing pains.

Sucks to hear that another jazz station is circling the drain. We've still got KCSM , "the Bay Area's jazz station," and I would highly recommend putting their app on your phone. I listen to 'em all the time, driving around, and there's some great programming to be heard.

OK, last five:

ABB: Fillmore
Tom Petty: You're Gonna Get It
TTB: The Fall
Sturgill Simpson: Metamodern Sounds
GOGD: 1.30.73 from the StL box

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Submitted by That Mike on Fri, 09/23/2022 - 08:46

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Sports talk and the Dead are not mutually exclusive. Love talking football/hockey/baseball (Go Jays!), love talking the Dead. In fact, quite the contrary. They are a perfect pairing. Going a step further, I find the Dead - like vintage wine - quite complimentary with most things. Camping & the Dead. Get togethers & the Dead. Long drives & the Dead. On and on.
It’s all a matter of finding that “right” vintage. Many on this site enjoy selections from the early Dead growing season, such as 1969; others prefer the 1971 selections (a Gold Standard for vintage). The “less aged” 90s are not as sought after, but with the right pairing, perfect.

Finally, like all wines, the Dead skew to the “Acid”-ic side. Tart, but never overpowering.

Eichel trade - one of the worst NHL trades in recent memory.

I said that last year when it was announced. Read what Mike said about players with injuries. And then go look up Eric Lindros. Yeah, I know most were concussions, but he was injury prone.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Fri, 09/23/2022 - 09:51

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Nice analogy Mike!
That’s how I feel, a Dead season for every occasion lol.
Dead for labor, Dead for chilling out, Dead for FAC, hell there’s some kind Dead for everything, but like a connoisseur, you have to know your vintage!
Go Jays!

Eichel: yep, nice kid, great skills, unfortunately toast at an early age. But hey, it’s a Buffalo thing: Star player always hurt and/or under producing, goes somewhere else and becomes superstar. So who knows?

EDIT: Mike, check your PM

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Fri, 09/23/2022 - 10:09

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Frantic search for 10-9-81 for some stealth Euro show.
Guess you meant 3-9-81 MSG.
I don't shop much so I was amazed how many "vendors" are selling this on the Bezos site. And at varying good prices.
Some even listed as used. Wait, what? It's not even at anyone's door yet.
Like a pre-order for used? Mine isn't even tracking yet. Ship notice was on 9-21.
So how does the S.A. River get delivery before us? Just sayin'.
Also wonder how many get to buy at wholesale to resell as these are below retail.
Cheers

I got your message, and know there is a knighthood waiting for you. A sincere thank you!

As for Eichel, I have to agree with Jack - one of the worst trades in recent history. Look up “Nathan Horton” to see a guy whose career got derailed by a bad back, right after Columbus signed him for $37million - he played 36 games only. It’s bad enough your Grandpa blows his back out - but an athlete??? Yikes!

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Fri, 09/23/2022 - 13:00

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Announce a year ahead?
A slow departure so you can wean off.
Slow, like their time signatures.
Cheers

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Submitted by daverock on Sat, 09/24/2022 - 05:45

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A wonderful writer, who sadly died last Thursday.

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Submitted by nappyrags on Sat, 09/24/2022 - 07:01

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I read "Wolf Hall" when it first came out and was blown away by it...the second book in the trilogy "Bring Up The Bodies" wasn't as enjoyable to me...I've yet to read the third one "The Mirror & The Light", I have it but it's in that 35 or so pile of books I have that I have yet to read...my last book I read was one on Hank Aaron's pursuit of the home run record. right now I'm reading a bio on Hank Williams so I gots my Hillbilly on...

Real Gone Music emailed me to tell me that my DP33 vinyl, which was scheduled to arrive Wednesday, is out for delivery today.
Now that’s customer service. They actually tracked my package for me.

I enjoyed "Wolf Hall" more than the other books in that trilogy, although they are all good. Another great book by Hilary Mantel is the collection of short stories that goes under the name of "The Assassination of Margaret Thatcher". I believe it was written before the trilogy had been completed, to give her some relief from the intensity of writing the three novels.

Concerning books on musicians, I am half way through the Blind Willie McTell biography written by Michael Gray, called "Hand Me My Travelin' Shoes". It serves as a voyage of discovery, as Gray goes on the trail of McTell, to discover more about who he was, and what kind of life he led. It seems very good on historical detail, going back to the mid 19th century and the circumstances and consequences of the Civil War.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sat, 09/24/2022 - 10:05

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DP33 vinyl has arrived, 4 days earlier than expected.
I’ll be spinning it tonight.

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Sat, 09/24/2022 - 11:14

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(see avatar) has passed.
Think I'll do a Birdsong in her honor.
And a toast: Cheers all!

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sat, 09/24/2022 - 12:49

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I am pouring the first half of my evening beverage to the curb in her honor.

So sorry to hear this.

Will play To Lay Me Down later tonight to seal the deal. Sending good wishes your way. It's never fun nor easy to lose a furry family member.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sat, 09/24/2022 - 13:14

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Saying goodbye to a pet is really hard

(getting verklempt just thinking about it...)

Roxie the cat and Sunny the dog say "paws up for Ms. Phoebe!"

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Submitted by That Mike on Sat, 09/24/2022 - 15:36

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Condolences on losing Ms Phoebe, 1stShow. Our pets keep us grounded, and are an integral part of our family.
Better days, ahead.

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Sat, 09/24/2022 - 15:49

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Can always count on the Dead clan!
Now on with the party.
Phoebe was a party girl.
Cheers

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Submitted by FiveBranch on Sat, 09/24/2022 - 15:56

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I said goodbye to my calico last November. When I put her in the carrier for the last time, my tabby immediately ran up to her and after staring at each other for a bit through the grate, they bumped noses to say goodbye. Cats are smart that way. Now its just me and the tabby. When I settle in for a serious GD listening, he often sits in the middle of the floor and I can watch his ears flutter back and forth towards the speakers. I've trained him well!

Sorry to hear about Ms. Phoebe. I'm glad you got that little bit of extra time with her since we last spoke.

Didn't make it to the condor release in person but did live stream it and it was very cool. Need to see some of those big ol' carrion eatin' birds in person.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sat, 09/24/2022 - 18:30

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The cats bumping noses...

Wow. Great description.

Again, verklempt

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