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  • #181
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    To me there is very little that connects seeing the band live to sitting at home listening to a live recording. To recap I saw them 5 times in 1981 and 1990. Loved all 5 shows, and they didn't play any songs that I didn't like. Some songs, that I hadn't been so keen on -Row Jimmy comes to mind - made much more sense in real time than it did on live recordings, or on Wake of the Flood. Drums and Space in 1990 blew my head off. It doesn't do that now, unfortunately. More interesting than mind blowing
    On 10/30/90 I thought it was great when they broke into "Lovelight" - an actual song off "Live Dead". Sadly, I don't have this response now - in fact I have no interest whatsoever in hearing a Bob sung Lovelight now. Or a show from 1990, for that matter. But that doesn't mean for a second that it wasn't great at the time, being there.

    Like everyone on here, I guess, there are some songs I have heard way to often, simply because they are played at shows which are brilliant overall. To skip them feels a bit like skipping a dull chapter in a novel - you want to, but it makes you feel a bit guilty if you do.

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    Can one train a dog to poop on the floor (or sofa) each morning at exactly 3am?

    I thought it was just me that got borderline PTSD when a show ended with Throwing Stones>NFA encore: US Blues. Miracle and Mexicali are on my list with many of the late era new songs mentioned.

    Fortunately, there are so many great songs they either wrote or covered that really made it difficult to have a bad time at a Dead show. There was almost always something special. So time your bathroom breaks with skip tunes, stay away from the brown acid and let the good times roll.

    Before shows some of the folks I would travel with would voice out what they thought we were going to hear mixed with dream setlists and the occasional song that they best not play that night or else (in the spirit of that Sideways quote, "I am NOT drinking any f***king Merlot"). We are a spirited bunch aren't we?

  • #183
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    Sorry for your mishap vguy

    But I cant stop laughing.

    Dog poop at 3 am

    Isnt that a simon and garfunkel album title?

    One search later:
    Wednesday Morning 3 a.m. is the album title

    Your mishap happened at...wednesday morning 3 a.m.

    Too funny

  • #184
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    Skippable songs

    Lovelight. Not my favorite, but I’ll take it over the typical throwing stones>not fade to end the show if for nothing more than a change of pace. I never really got into the 30 minute versions either.

    I can tolerate LLR. I’ll admit I have a soft spot because my inaugural show ended the first set with that right into a China>Rider. It grew on me over the years and I much prefer the latter day, more amped up versions. The early iterations sound like something Engelbert Humperdinck should be singing.

    Definitely skippable are most, OK all, of Vince. Corrina, Victim, Easy Answers, Eternity. . . You see the pattern here.

    I actually liked a lot of Brent songs when I saw them live. Unfortunately, I don’t think they’ve aged well. In fairness I probably haven’t either.

    Passenger and Miracle are two older songs I never enjoyed.

    As others have said, 12/30/1986 was an awesome show. Easily in the top five of all the shows I ever saw. Yes, they did have speakers outside for those who were not fortunate enough to get tickets. I thought it was a West Coast thing, but evidently not.

  • #185
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    I stepped in dog poop this morning at 3 AM....

    ....while I was getting a glass of water.
    My bad. I forgot to let them out before I went to bed.
    Rain is welcome in Cali, but what the southwest REALLY needs is snowpack on the western slopes of the Colorado rockies. For several winters in a row.

  • #186
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    Re: I also apply a Slide Filter whenever necessary

    That and Charlie's description of responsible cat ownership cracked me up.

    Thanks for that.

    I, too, reserve the right to Slide Filter whenever necessary.

    I generally do not have problem with the cat, and living in a 120 year old rodent-free Victorian, I have a few things to be thankful for. I keep the litter fresh and clean and they keep the mice (and river rats) away.

    I'm really in the mood for 1/2/1970. What a great and often overlooked release.

  • #187
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    So weekend was Friday watching 12/30/86. Saturday was listening to MaryE's first show which I enjoyed immensely, and then later in the evening I watched 12/31/85 which was a national tv broadcast that started at midnight Oakland time and 2am here locally when it was on. I still really enjoy that video, wish they would release that whole show video, "I'd buy that for a dollar." Then Sunday the 1st, I watched "Ticket to New Years," which I also attended that 4 day run. Then Monday, I watched most of "The Closing of Winterland." So lots of Dead watching, and I enjoyed all of it. I also went thru a couple of shows from the MSG box, nice!

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  • #188
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    Happy New Year again!!!

    BTK yall be safe now ya hear. This storm is a beast. I know rain is needed but not that much that quick. All in California and the desert areas prepare. It cost so little to have a manual can opener and $20 of canned goods to make it a few days.

    Any way, have to go back and read last couple of days to catch up, but here are some quick answers.

    DeadVikes thanks for the warm return. It is appreciated greatly. Unfortunately, my own health which is pretty good, is clashing with folks health which is not so good. Won't get into details, but I refer to them as my progenitors, as the love has always been cold as ice. Yet now I have to eat up my own time watching after them (although with a lot of others help also). I will try to post more often.

    Question of why 12/30/86 and 7/16/88 are important to me. AJS had the correct answer, because of the guest drummers during drumz. But it was the whom, in who were the guests. On 12/30/86 it was Hamza El-Din (&Jose Lorenzo) and on 7/16/88 it was Baba Olatunji. Both such huge influences bringing depth to Billy and Mickey's poly-rythmic structures during drumz.

    So roughly here was weekend schedule. On 12/30/22 I watched 12/30/86 on the me-tube. Very nice video (probably band created) and soundboard synced up. I had watched once previously but this time it really hit me. That one show, along with 12/27/86 represents one of those closures and new beginnings. Both of those shows have the more heroin induced jams of the late Keith/Donna era shows. I did not get into 12/28/86 as we were shut-out. Maybe someone here, like BTK, can remember when they put the speakers outside for any stragglers and the Shakedown Street crew, which was small. The 12/31/86 sounds like more of the changing sound coming in 1987. Intense upgrades in computers and technology, less in the slow methodical heroin induced jam (I love both). But this time watching 12/30/86 was way more meaningful, to really see and focus on Hamza, and tie him back to Egypt and the tar and talking drum. I do love from "From Egypt with Love" and Ollin Arageed, that rhythm is intense and right up my alley as a former want-to-be drummer. So for me to realize 25 years later that I saw both Hamza and Baba creates a warm feeling all over. I do recommend if you have not seen the 12/30/86 on me tube it is worth a watch, although I think in is labeled 12/31/86, which it is not.

    BTK - thanks for the kind words of friendship and comradery, they do mean much.

    I have several days worth of reading to catch up. I just wanted to make sure I remember to finish previous thoughts, as that is getting harder and harder to do.

    Ok, will post and read to edit. I know I need an editor, kind of like young reporters today whose story telling/reporting is not good.

    G

  • #189
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    Top Reasons to Have a Cat

    You don’t have enough urine or fecal material in your house and you want more.

    You really dig randomly finding cat puke all over the house in a variety of unusual and unexpected places.

    You don’t like to sleep through the night and want something to wake you up every couple of hours, but you don’t want to have a baby.

    You feel like it would be cool to have a greater potential exposure to Toxoplasma gondii, because it sounds like such an interesting parasite, and Toxoplasmosis sounds so fascinating. (See e.g., the wolves of Yellowstone and toxoplasmosis, google it, you’ll find the articles and it is interesting).

    You enjoy finding the back half of mice outside your door on a regular basis. They always eat the head, never the back end, go figure.

    You enjoy watching them slowly destroy a wooden post on your stairway railing by using it as a scratching post. It’s a long-term project for them, but you can see the steady progress, just another way to measure the passage of time.

    Your wife and children left you out of the decision and you’re not quite enough of a cold-hearted bastard to get rid of them. The cats that is, not the family members, none of them have peed all over the house.

    We have two cats. They are indoors and outdoors cats, and in theory they are using the great outdoors as a latrine, but that is not always the case, especially if it is too far below freezing outside. One cat peed on the living room couch on 4th of July a couple of years ago late in the night. Everyone else was asleep so I took the opportunity to take the giant couch outside for disposal. It was a large couch, and I am not large, but I picked up that cat pee contaminated couch and got it down the stairs and through the front door, barely, and outside without waking anyone up. Wife woke up in the morning like, wtf, where’d the couch go? The couch did not come back inside. Now I try to keep the cats in a travel carrier or outside on 4th of July to avoid a repeat.

    Edit: Don't get me wrong, I like the cats, but they don't make it easy sometimes.

  • #190
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    Songs I skip: Corrina, Easy Answers, Looks Like Rain(though sometimes I do fast fwd to Jerry's solo), Easy To Love You.
    I also apply a Slide Filter whenever necessary.

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Submitted by Sixtus_ on Thu, 10/27/2022 - 08:49

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....this was a totally fucked up movie. But in a really weird, almost unsettling, but creative way. I had no idea what I was getting into when I watched it for the first time like 5 years ago. I sort of didn't no how to react to it....part awe, part fascination, big doses of squeamishness, a lot of eerie moments. Not for the faint of heart, but yes if you like shit that is totally off the wall. At this time, I'm not even sure what this movie was about in recollection, other than these images and feelings it conjures when I think about it.

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Submitted by wave-that-flag on Thu, 10/27/2022 - 09:38

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Every Saturday afternoon at 1 pm on Channel 56 out of Boston. Loved those old school, campy horror flicks. The Wasp Woman, Invisible Man, Creature from the Black Lagoon and all the other classic misfits.

Those were the days. Just remember to adjust your UHF antenna appropriately!

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Submitted by cdrtree on Thu, 10/27/2022 - 09:42

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Charles Theatre- now that brings back memories..they'd have themed events and J. Waters and Divine would make an appearance when his films would show...fog is lifting

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 10/27/2022 - 09:43

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....Rob Zombies The Devils Rejects. That's a good one.
His Munsters remake though? Don't waste your time.
Stay with what you're good at Rob. Which is gore. Not family friendly drivel.
Regarding old school, campy films, Mystery Science Theater 3000 does a good job making fun of them 👍.

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Submitted by daverock on Thu, 10/27/2022 - 10:43

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Nappy - that must have been great, to see Black Sunday at the cinema when you were young. Features the luminescent Barbara Steele as well.
It's selling Eraserhead short a bit, referring to it as a "horror film". It doesn't really fit into any genre. None that I am aware of anyway. I don't think the plot is actually that important. More of a mood - a waking nightmare that defies logic.
Suspiria is a bit like that. Some amazing set pieces, incredible over saturated colour and a great soundtrack by the Italian prog rock group Goblin. There is no need to try and follow what's going on - its just a real feast for the senses.

Dennis-they have some great B movies on British TV at the moment too. The Last one I saw was a William Castle film called "Homicidal." 15 minutes before the end they had what they called a "fright break" so if anybody found the film too much, they could leave, and be seen by a nurse in the foyer in case they were at risk of having a heart attack!

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Thu, 10/27/2022 - 10:49

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On Me-TV maybe out of Chicago as he calls Berwin home.
Every week has all the cornball 50s sci-fi and humorous ones too.
Great selection but as it's on every week lots of repeats.
He avoids the gory stuff but you have to put up with really bad jokes, skits, and rubber chickens flying. I think the 50 ft. woman one was on a couple months ago. (We caught that car switch too Dennis!) Last Sat night he did Bride of Frankenstein. She's a hotty with that hair, LOL. And "just a little nervous from the fall" to bring it back to the Dead.
Cheers
Edit: The "store" weirdness continues. Just got an email from someone named Mac at support about my order status inquiry but I never placed any inquiry. Says my order went through and gave me the same order number I already had, so I guess it's all good even if confusing.

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Thu, 10/27/2022 - 11:25

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Yes, there's one in Illinois too.
His accent is a dead giveaway as well.
Cheers

Agree, not his best work but Eraserhead came early in his career and was made with almost no budget. I think he was pretty much an unknown when it came out.

I read somewhere it was inspired by his experience having his first child and how weird/strange/whatever being a new parent can be.

This and the Wall have to be the worst moves to see on acid. Not speaking from experience but I know it's been done. I was with somebody that saw The Wall dosed. Didn't seem like a good idea to me.

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Submitted by itsburnsy on Thu, 10/27/2022 - 14:21

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Holy Crap! I just read vguy's post about the new Phish box. I had just moved to Seattle a year earlier, and everyone said "gotta see the Gorge" So I took a chance on Phish who I had never seen before but obviously knew about. These shows are legendary, I just didn't know it at the time.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 10/27/2022 - 14:57

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....those were probably my 12th or 13th shows and I knew during the setbreak of the second night that we were witnessing something special. Then that second set of the second night started. Even my wife was like, "WOW!!!", and she was just a casual phan. Plus. The camping scene was stuff legends are made of.
Top shelf Phish.
Saw them there in '97 also, sans girlfriend/now wife. The only times I've been there. Need to go back one day.
After those shows. We drove south and saw the Shoreline show and the Ventura show, which is also officially released. The band was en fuego that year.
Now, my wife could care less about Phish. I think I overdosed her on them.

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Submitted by larryguate on Thu, 10/27/2022 - 15:03

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Is it only me? I tried last night and again this morning to order the 2023 series, and when I enter all info and click on Buy Now, nothing happens, except a red do not enter circle is over Buy Now when I move the mouse over it Help?

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Submitted by bigbrownie on Thu, 10/27/2022 - 18:44

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that mine is on the way...also Revolver deluxe on the way. And the World Series starts tomorrow. What to do, what to do. Well, I just saw a Falcon 9 blast off from Vandenberg a few minutes ago, and I'm about to dig into 9/21/82 with some super silver haze. Saw Nick Mason's Saucer Full of Secrets last night. The tour ends in Oakland tomorrow and then Seattle. Go if you can! AAAAHHHOOOO

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 10/27/2022 - 19:16

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....and Big Brownie just solidified it.
Saw that Revolver release. Expensive.
$110 on Amazon for 5 discs?
I love The Beatles. First music I ever got into, but damn. Laughs in Phish.
Actually. I unintentionally lied. My first music was K-Tel records. I was 8.

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Submitted by aikon.art on Thu, 10/27/2022 - 19:32

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The 10% off code worked for my Dave's 2023 subscription just now. (I didn't have any of the problems other folks have mentioned with submitting the order, but I ordered as a "guest".)
And, I received my DaP 44 shipping notice this morning.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 10/27/2022 - 20:28

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sshhhh.. it's on the downlow. But we all love Vermont

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 10/27/2022 - 22:19

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....Brownie got to watch a Falcon 9 launch live. And then super silver haze.
We have Wedding Cake down here.
So even I say.
Regarding the WS, I don't like either team. So to hockey I will probably go.
9.21.82 is really good.

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Submitted by Nick1234 on Fri, 10/28/2022 - 03:52

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I like a 45 minute Playin' as much as the next man but sometimes less is more. My wife's playing one of her favourite albums, The Boy With The Arab Strap by Belle and Sebastian, at the moment. The track Simple Things comes in at 1 minute 44 seconds and it's absolutely perfect. It's a good record, give it a listen.

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Submitted by JoeyMC on Fri, 10/28/2022 - 05:03

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Remember when they tried to deliver them on the release date? It actually happened once.

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Submitted by Dennis on Fri, 10/28/2022 - 05:28

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If you like them short and sweet check out The Residents' "Commerical" album,,, all songs are 1 minute long. Great album.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 10/28/2022 - 06:10

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....may I suggest the classic release, Speak English Or Die by The Stormtroopers Of Death. Or SOD as the cool kids call them.

Glad to read the discount code is working, hope many might use it, it probably works for WMG to sell more product anyway. Too bad now is unlike back in the day when individual Europe 72 shows, Road Trips and more music from archives readily available here. Nick1234, good to see your post hope all goes well in Shetland. Sent a PM a while back but it might not have got through, regarding an anthology of Scottish Island poetry found, which seems excellent: "These Islands, We Sing". Great to see Gaelic language in verse, even if indecipherable as English is usually provided as well. Hearing Gaelic spoken is something else, know local dialect in Shetland is much influenced by Norwegian effects. Had first disc listen to Zappa '75 yesterday, two stop tour of communist Yugoslavia, Zagreb and Ljubljana. Its a bit rough for an official release, particularly some saturated vocals, but so historic... Frank's guitar work is outstanding and Terry Bozio, what a drummer. Since Vermont has been outed (thanks Jim!), notes for anyone heading this way, most of fall foliage color has hit the ground, ski season is just around the corner at the big mountains and the launch of retail cannabis is very typically super slow, growers were licensed a bit late and this being a small craft oriented place. Check Heady Vermont on line for details. New Hampster is now surrounded by states with retail and trying to figure out how to sell more booze, with no sales tax, their major revenue stream.

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Submitted by That Mike on Fri, 10/28/2022 - 08:05

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DMCVT - I will concur, Vermont is a beautiful state, I have always enjoyed the sights. You mention New Hampshire, too, and I recall a family vacation on the NH shore in the 60s that was remarkable. My father made a really big deal of going by “The Old Man of the Mountain”, which was quite neat to see, then, and the times I saw it since (until it’s collapse, of course). The parents were big on Cape Cod for summer vacations, and we had family in Quincy (still do), so New England was a terrific place to visit, absolutely beautiful. Real nice folks, too! Thanks for the reminder of that memory!

Oro - If you are not charming the ladies of Colorado, or working hard/hardly working, please check your PM.

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Submitted by That Mike on Fri, 10/28/2022 - 08:48

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Dennis: Blue Note Records has a big Halloween sale on now, some pretty spooktacular (sorry, couldn’t resist) savings on vinyl. Might be worth a look.

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Submitted by Nick1234 on Fri, 10/28/2022 - 08:55

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Sorry for not replying to your PM, I never check them, and sorry to Daverock too. That anthology looks well worth looking into, thanks. Life here in Shetland is idyllic at the moment but winter's coming 😁. The Shetland accent/dialect is beautiful. Our closest neighbour's family has lived in the same house since 1854 and though I love to hear him speak I probably understand about half of what he says to me. I seem to nod and smile in the right places though 😀. The old Shetland language was Norn but the last speaker died in about 1850.

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Submitted by Dennis on Fri, 10/28/2022 - 09:32

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Ok, I ordered the Zappa 75 from Amazon, then I saw a good price on whippets (600 for under 200). By the time I got to the Blue Note Collection my wife was out of money. So Blue Note another day.

God this site could break a brother.

Looks like next week a lot will be pouring in.

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Submitted by Nick1234 on Fri, 10/28/2022 - 09:46

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I've checked my messages for the first time here and I see there are messages that I haven't replied to dating back to 2009. Sorry everyone. Is there a way to be notified when a message is received?

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Submitted by adedhed68 on Fri, 10/28/2022 - 09:57

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Is in the house, and no, I didn’t order from Amazon. Musictoday got it here right on time and it sounds mighty fine. Just wrapping up the first set now.

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Submitted by Cousins Of The… on Fri, 10/28/2022 - 10:00

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Love me some SOD and Scott Ian.

"I woke up, can't wait to eat
Got my cereal; boy, was I beat
Opened the fridge, and to my dismay
There was no milk; my mother will pay"

Glad to report there's no pitch issues on any of the MSG box shows, speed is right on. Bob shows up for the '83 shows. Some really good stuff in there, notwithstanding Jerry's voice in 82/83

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Submitted by bigbrownie on Fri, 10/28/2022 - 10:21

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The deluxe CD set is 25 bucks plus shipping.

I Like Wedding Cake, too.

Jerry Lee Lewis? Honestly, he had to be the oldest living rock 'n roller.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Fri, 10/28/2022 - 10:27

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Nothing new PM box, just one from 10/25 about tracking etc?
Quincy? Isn’t Carlo from around there?
My ole man’s peeps are from Maaaablehead

The Killer, I’d say rip but I’m not sure he’d know how lol

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Submitted by Angry Jack Straw on Fri, 10/28/2022 - 10:50

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You say that your grandparents are from Marblenoggin?

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Submitted by That Mike on Fri, 10/28/2022 - 10:59

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Oro - No, that’s the one, I wasn’t sure you had seen it, all good. So your Dad hails from Mass? Nice area. Saw my first (only) shark off the Cape while on a deep sea fishing trip there. A fantastic holiday place for a kid back then, no idea now.

Dennis - Blue Note generally aligns their biggie sales around major holidays, so I would expect a big sale as Thanksgiving approaches. Sure, the prices won’t be as spooktacular….(I’ll stop. Right after Halloween…)

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Submitted by Cousins Of The… on Fri, 10/28/2022 - 11:26

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Gotta' love Billy Milano - not for the faint of heart though. Anthrax was a great live band!

Jerry Lee and the Dead shared a few covers: CC Rider, Me & Bobbie McGee, Lovelight, Seasons of my Heart, Green Green Grass of Home, Rockin' Pneumonia, You Win Again, Muddy Waters, and more...

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 10/28/2022 - 11:32

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....Anthrax is STILL a great live band. Saw them open for Slayer a few years ago. Slayer played the complete Reign In Blood album 🤘.
Sadly, they are no more.

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Submitted by Cousins Of The… on Fri, 10/28/2022 - 16:33

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Didn't know Anthrax was still around; saw them in '87 during the Among the Living tour, great show. Caught Slayer a year later for the South of Heaven tour. Tons of great Thrash shows in the Bay Area then, hard to keep up with on top of the Dead and more.

The 5 CD Revolver is $109, vinyl, 7 EPs Half Speed masters is $188 on the Amazons. Don't think it ever needed remastering, but the outtakes would be nice.

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Submitted by billy the kiddd on Fri, 10/28/2022 - 17:05

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38 years ago tonight, it was Sunday night with the Good ole Grateful Dead. 2nd night of a real fun run of shows. After the show it was time for great bbq down at Everett & Jones down on San Pablo Ave. Fun tines for sure.

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Submitted by Nick1234 on Fri, 10/28/2022 - 20:45

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Last five:

5 classic albums from the Doobie Brothers, Toulouse Street, Captain and Me etc. A bit of a guilty pleasure for me the Doobies, they were always sneered at by my peers in the 70s but without love where would you be right now?

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 10/28/2022 - 21:16

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....so much music. So little time.
Listening to Pepper currently. A nice reggae band.

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Submitted by DeeDeeMcTrivers on Sat, 10/29/2022 - 02:51

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does anyone write about the grateful dead around here? who cares about your vacations and hockey teams.

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Submitted by Colin Gould on Sat, 10/29/2022 - 03:13

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Grateful Who?

Go Phillies

Edit: I got the DaP #44 dispatch email on 22nd but after 7 days UPS still don’t have it.

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