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  • #511
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    Phish fans not sitting in their assigned seats?....

    ....I took that personally Mr. Ones.
    I prefer having a seat these days, but I'm flexible. Just bought Widespread Panic tix for here in March. Options for floor with no seats or loft with seats. I picked seats this go around.

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    The new kids in town at our house. Only shot of them together at the moment. They move too fast. Need to work on a beauty shot like Mr. Ones has. The ginger boy is Tigger (shelter name) and we're thinking of going with Hobbs or Otto. The tuxedo boy is Pepe (Le Pew? shelter name) and Checkers or Big Boy Pete are in the running. Feel free to vote on those choices. Both strays from the shelter in Ridgway and Tigger was one of those two days from death cases that made it. Tough row to hoe but it's all good now. So far they like the Dead more than classical.
    Cheers

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    The Older They Get...

    ...The Harder It Is To Stand Up!!

    I almost hate to admit this, but these days, if I can sit and listen, I quite prefer that now. I realize that I cannot dance sitting down, but at my tender, advanced age, sitting and listening is good!!
    Occasionally, I'll get front row seats of this section or that, and really look forward to being able to SIT!! and don't you know usually, there will be rude, entitled fans up dancing, and blocking my view. Phish fans are notorious for going to areas that they have not purchased tickets for and feeling like they own the place.
    I know, I know, "Hey kids, get off my lawn". I guess I AM that guy now. Sad.

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    Jeff Buckley-Mystery White Boy
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    Monkees-Disc 4 of new Headquarters 4-cd box

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    Greetings from the Jam Band Ghetto

    Kind of surprising, but not really, to see that the TTB's outstanding "I am the Moon" has been completely ignored by the Grammys and critics' year-end best of lists. It seems clear that once you get pegged as a "jam band" the recording industry and critics decide that there's no point in taking your music seriously, no matter how many people flock to your shows or how good your recorded output actually is. It happened to the GOGD, it happened to Phish, and to pretty much everybody who's gotten pegged as part of the jam band scene. Now it's happening to TTB, and it'll happen to Goose or whoever else comes along.

    Have to say: I've never understood this. Bands that can actually play their instruments in a live setting, and who can even improvise on them, and develop devoted audiences on that basis, they don't count somehow. Probably because their music doesn't lend itself to radio or tik tok, and doesn't have much to do with the trends that wannabe hipsters pride themselves in being up on. Meanwhile, you get "bands" that are basically one guy and his girlfriend with a laptop in mommy's basement, who would get eaten alive if they tried to play in front of more than a couple dozen people, and that's considered a cutting edge rock band these days.

    I guess it doesn't matter anyway. The jam band world is its own ecosystem, sustained by us die hards who like to stand up at concerts (maybe even dance) and who want to hear bands that can actually play for a couple hours without endlessly repeating the same three licks and the only groove they know.

    OK, end of rant. Last five!

    Charles Mingus: East Coasting
    The Meters: Look a Py Py
    ABB: The Cream of the Crop 2003
    GOGD: The Warfield October 1980
    Sturgill Simpson: Cuttin Grass

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    How about lying down?

    If I remember rightly, a lot people used to lie on the floor waiting for Hawkwind to come on. And then struggle to their feet when the band came on. Maybe it was just me.
    I saw Pink Floyd in a huge air hangar on the Animals tour in 1977. After hours of sitting on the floor, the band came on, and one bloke in front of me stood up. The guy next to me shouted at him to sit down, and then turned to me and said, "The Floyd deserve to be listened to." It was partly this attitude that led to punk.
    Mind you, that was the opposite end of the spectrum . Short haired herberts jumping about, barging into you. You've heard of the blues - that was the black and blues.

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    Sitting down = NG

    Sixtus, a good 5-6 years back, Bonnie Raitt's show at Red Rocks -- for the first time -- featured reserve seats down front. With most acts in the past, including hers, the first 20 rows was Gen Admission -- and the rabid fans (why are you looking at me?) would line up at 8-9am on the east stairs for the dash into the front rows as doors opened at ~6pm. Long haul but that's the cost of the first few rows at the Rocks. This always guaranteed that the core audience really wanted that artist, that show and we (yes, '78 til, say, 3-4 years ago) made sure every artist we saw (GD, ABB, Dylan, Raitt, etc) knew we were in support.

    Fast forward to the first year that Bonnie made reserved seats out of the first 20 rows. We assumed it was a sop to an aging fan base. (I manned the stairs from my earliest 20s to my latest 50s before slacking off.) But with reserved seats, a lot of newcomers were really enamored of their oh-so-tiny territory and everyone remained seated. Bonnie delivered but was clearly mystified by the lack of froth coming from the audience. Oh well, everyone finally decided that it was okay to get up and boogey during the encore and Bonnie stayed for a few more tunes. But I was appalled at the lack of audience excitement and involvement in giving the performer something to work with or off of. Same thing once with a Lyle Lovett show -- apparently, it was date night. Lyle's Large (swing) Band hits the stage hot and I jump up and start dancing (in my peculiar way). Some woman behind me yells "Sit Down!" and I look around and I swear I am the only person out of 10,000 on my feet. Oh boy. Later, when it rained, it was "okay" to stand up...

    If it's a theater show, I've sometimes sat down. But outdoor arena ala Red Rocks?! Only for the occasional break from the boogeyinig. Thankfully, that was a one-off and Bonnie killed it this past summer. But that sitting down jive can sure kill the vibe.

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    Dennis, VGuy: I too have on many an occasion pondered how the world might exist if we were thrown backward technologically speaking; this discussion and Dennis' reference invokes the ever-awesome Twilight Zone post-apocalyptic episode with the guy who loves to read and gets locked in the vault when the world ends and finds he has all of the books in the world to read but then breaks his glasses.

    Same reason I still send my bills through the snail mail, people. That one has just stuck with me though more as a habit than really thinking the world will end; but these are heady times

    Recovering from COVID, tested positive on Monday but feel myself coming out of the swamp. The well of gravity was inescapable for the first 24 hours, then my antibodies kicked into overdrive - it was noticeable. Second time in a year (Jan'22, first timer) despite vax & boost, but hey, now I am super-vaxxed, amirite?

    Daverock - that's really cool you're falling into a Fleetwood Mac-hole. they are a solid pillar in the halls of music. Saw them about 8 or 9 years ago, Iggy got us tickets and while I loved the music at the show, I was astounded how everyone just sat in their seats. I haven't been to a rock show in a looooong time (if ever?) that no one was up and moving. It felt weird. But then again the demographic did sway upward, so I get it on that level. It was still weird. But the music was phenomenal as was the production.

    Be Well People.
    Sixtus

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    Cheers, folks

    Thanks to all those who recommended "Then Play On" by Fleetwood Mac. ( and apologies to those who are sick of hearing about it). An incredible album - I can't believe I had never heard of it, or seen it recommended anywhere else in all these years. The cover reminds me of those on the early 70's Quicksilver Messenger Service albums a bit. And the first track reminds me of QSM of that period, too - slightly Latin in feel. That track is okay, but the album really picks up after that . Great guitar sound, songs, rhythm. Maybe I should have got one of the boxes featuring it...although I am guessing there is nothing else in their catalogue quite like this one.

    Last Dead, to keep it sweet, the second show in Dicks Picks 33. 10/10/76. Also great -I'm tempted to get the vinyl now.

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    Attention Proudfoot....

    ....I know you're a Motorhead fan. But if you are also a Vans footwear fan, check out the Vans/Motorhead collaboration. Pretty cool Christmas idea from Mrs Proudfoot?

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    What the hey?
    (Insert sound of crickets)
    Must be shoveling?

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Submitted by Sixtus_ on Thu, 10/27/2022 - 08:49

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....this was a totally fucked up movie. But in a really weird, almost unsettling, but creative way. I had no idea what I was getting into when I watched it for the first time like 5 years ago. I sort of didn't no how to react to it....part awe, part fascination, big doses of squeamishness, a lot of eerie moments. Not for the faint of heart, but yes if you like shit that is totally off the wall. At this time, I'm not even sure what this movie was about in recollection, other than these images and feelings it conjures when I think about it.

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Submitted by wave-that-flag on Thu, 10/27/2022 - 09:38

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Every Saturday afternoon at 1 pm on Channel 56 out of Boston. Loved those old school, campy horror flicks. The Wasp Woman, Invisible Man, Creature from the Black Lagoon and all the other classic misfits.

Those were the days. Just remember to adjust your UHF antenna appropriately!

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Submitted by cdrtree on Thu, 10/27/2022 - 09:42

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Charles Theatre- now that brings back memories..they'd have themed events and J. Waters and Divine would make an appearance when his films would show...fog is lifting

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 10/27/2022 - 09:43

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....Rob Zombies The Devils Rejects. That's a good one.
His Munsters remake though? Don't waste your time.
Stay with what you're good at Rob. Which is gore. Not family friendly drivel.
Regarding old school, campy films, Mystery Science Theater 3000 does a good job making fun of them 👍.

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Submitted by daverock on Thu, 10/27/2022 - 10:43

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Nappy - that must have been great, to see Black Sunday at the cinema when you were young. Features the luminescent Barbara Steele as well.
It's selling Eraserhead short a bit, referring to it as a "horror film". It doesn't really fit into any genre. None that I am aware of anyway. I don't think the plot is actually that important. More of a mood - a waking nightmare that defies logic.
Suspiria is a bit like that. Some amazing set pieces, incredible over saturated colour and a great soundtrack by the Italian prog rock group Goblin. There is no need to try and follow what's going on - its just a real feast for the senses.

Dennis-they have some great B movies on British TV at the moment too. The Last one I saw was a William Castle film called "Homicidal." 15 minutes before the end they had what they called a "fright break" so if anybody found the film too much, they could leave, and be seen by a nurse in the foyer in case they were at risk of having a heart attack!

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Thu, 10/27/2022 - 10:49

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On Me-TV maybe out of Chicago as he calls Berwin home.
Every week has all the cornball 50s sci-fi and humorous ones too.
Great selection but as it's on every week lots of repeats.
He avoids the gory stuff but you have to put up with really bad jokes, skits, and rubber chickens flying. I think the 50 ft. woman one was on a couple months ago. (We caught that car switch too Dennis!) Last Sat night he did Bride of Frankenstein. She's a hotty with that hair, LOL. And "just a little nervous from the fall" to bring it back to the Dead.
Cheers
Edit: The "store" weirdness continues. Just got an email from someone named Mac at support about my order status inquiry but I never placed any inquiry. Says my order went through and gave me the same order number I already had, so I guess it's all good even if confusing.

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Thu, 10/27/2022 - 11:25

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Yes, there's one in Illinois too.
His accent is a dead giveaway as well.
Cheers

Agree, not his best work but Eraserhead came early in his career and was made with almost no budget. I think he was pretty much an unknown when it came out.

I read somewhere it was inspired by his experience having his first child and how weird/strange/whatever being a new parent can be.

This and the Wall have to be the worst moves to see on acid. Not speaking from experience but I know it's been done. I was with somebody that saw The Wall dosed. Didn't seem like a good idea to me.

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Submitted by itsburnsy on Thu, 10/27/2022 - 14:21

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Holy Crap! I just read vguy's post about the new Phish box. I had just moved to Seattle a year earlier, and everyone said "gotta see the Gorge" So I took a chance on Phish who I had never seen before but obviously knew about. These shows are legendary, I just didn't know it at the time.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 10/27/2022 - 14:57

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....those were probably my 12th or 13th shows and I knew during the setbreak of the second night that we were witnessing something special. Then that second set of the second night started. Even my wife was like, "WOW!!!", and she was just a casual phan. Plus. The camping scene was stuff legends are made of.
Top shelf Phish.
Saw them there in '97 also, sans girlfriend/now wife. The only times I've been there. Need to go back one day.
After those shows. We drove south and saw the Shoreline show and the Ventura show, which is also officially released. The band was en fuego that year.
Now, my wife could care less about Phish. I think I overdosed her on them.

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Submitted by larryguate on Thu, 10/27/2022 - 15:03

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Is it only me? I tried last night and again this morning to order the 2023 series, and when I enter all info and click on Buy Now, nothing happens, except a red do not enter circle is over Buy Now when I move the mouse over it Help?

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Submitted by bigbrownie on Thu, 10/27/2022 - 18:44

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that mine is on the way...also Revolver deluxe on the way. And the World Series starts tomorrow. What to do, what to do. Well, I just saw a Falcon 9 blast off from Vandenberg a few minutes ago, and I'm about to dig into 9/21/82 with some super silver haze. Saw Nick Mason's Saucer Full of Secrets last night. The tour ends in Oakland tomorrow and then Seattle. Go if you can! AAAAHHHOOOO

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 10/27/2022 - 19:16

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....and Big Brownie just solidified it.
Saw that Revolver release. Expensive.
$110 on Amazon for 5 discs?
I love The Beatles. First music I ever got into, but damn. Laughs in Phish.
Actually. I unintentionally lied. My first music was K-Tel records. I was 8.

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Submitted by aikon.art on Thu, 10/27/2022 - 19:32

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The 10% off code worked for my Dave's 2023 subscription just now. (I didn't have any of the problems other folks have mentioned with submitting the order, but I ordered as a "guest".)
And, I received my DaP 44 shipping notice this morning.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 10/27/2022 - 20:28

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sshhhh.. it's on the downlow. But we all love Vermont

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 10/27/2022 - 22:19

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....Brownie got to watch a Falcon 9 launch live. And then super silver haze.
We have Wedding Cake down here.
So even I say.
Regarding the WS, I don't like either team. So to hockey I will probably go.
9.21.82 is really good.

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Submitted by Nick1234 on Fri, 10/28/2022 - 03:52

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I like a 45 minute Playin' as much as the next man but sometimes less is more. My wife's playing one of her favourite albums, The Boy With The Arab Strap by Belle and Sebastian, at the moment. The track Simple Things comes in at 1 minute 44 seconds and it's absolutely perfect. It's a good record, give it a listen.

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Submitted by JoeyMC on Fri, 10/28/2022 - 05:03

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Remember when they tried to deliver them on the release date? It actually happened once.

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Submitted by Dennis on Fri, 10/28/2022 - 05:28

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If you like them short and sweet check out The Residents' "Commerical" album,,, all songs are 1 minute long. Great album.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 10/28/2022 - 06:10

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....may I suggest the classic release, Speak English Or Die by The Stormtroopers Of Death. Or SOD as the cool kids call them.

Glad to read the discount code is working, hope many might use it, it probably works for WMG to sell more product anyway. Too bad now is unlike back in the day when individual Europe 72 shows, Road Trips and more music from archives readily available here. Nick1234, good to see your post hope all goes well in Shetland. Sent a PM a while back but it might not have got through, regarding an anthology of Scottish Island poetry found, which seems excellent: "These Islands, We Sing". Great to see Gaelic language in verse, even if indecipherable as English is usually provided as well. Hearing Gaelic spoken is something else, know local dialect in Shetland is much influenced by Norwegian effects. Had first disc listen to Zappa '75 yesterday, two stop tour of communist Yugoslavia, Zagreb and Ljubljana. Its a bit rough for an official release, particularly some saturated vocals, but so historic... Frank's guitar work is outstanding and Terry Bozio, what a drummer. Since Vermont has been outed (thanks Jim!), notes for anyone heading this way, most of fall foliage color has hit the ground, ski season is just around the corner at the big mountains and the launch of retail cannabis is very typically super slow, growers were licensed a bit late and this being a small craft oriented place. Check Heady Vermont on line for details. New Hampster is now surrounded by states with retail and trying to figure out how to sell more booze, with no sales tax, their major revenue stream.

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Submitted by That Mike on Fri, 10/28/2022 - 08:05

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DMCVT - I will concur, Vermont is a beautiful state, I have always enjoyed the sights. You mention New Hampshire, too, and I recall a family vacation on the NH shore in the 60s that was remarkable. My father made a really big deal of going by “The Old Man of the Mountain”, which was quite neat to see, then, and the times I saw it since (until it’s collapse, of course). The parents were big on Cape Cod for summer vacations, and we had family in Quincy (still do), so New England was a terrific place to visit, absolutely beautiful. Real nice folks, too! Thanks for the reminder of that memory!

Oro - If you are not charming the ladies of Colorado, or working hard/hardly working, please check your PM.

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Submitted by That Mike on Fri, 10/28/2022 - 08:48

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Dennis: Blue Note Records has a big Halloween sale on now, some pretty spooktacular (sorry, couldn’t resist) savings on vinyl. Might be worth a look.

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Submitted by Nick1234 on Fri, 10/28/2022 - 08:55

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Sorry for not replying to your PM, I never check them, and sorry to Daverock too. That anthology looks well worth looking into, thanks. Life here in Shetland is idyllic at the moment but winter's coming 😁. The Shetland accent/dialect is beautiful. Our closest neighbour's family has lived in the same house since 1854 and though I love to hear him speak I probably understand about half of what he says to me. I seem to nod and smile in the right places though 😀. The old Shetland language was Norn but the last speaker died in about 1850.

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Submitted by Dennis on Fri, 10/28/2022 - 09:32

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Ok, I ordered the Zappa 75 from Amazon, then I saw a good price on whippets (600 for under 200). By the time I got to the Blue Note Collection my wife was out of money. So Blue Note another day.

God this site could break a brother.

Looks like next week a lot will be pouring in.

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Submitted by Nick1234 on Fri, 10/28/2022 - 09:46

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I've checked my messages for the first time here and I see there are messages that I haven't replied to dating back to 2009. Sorry everyone. Is there a way to be notified when a message is received?

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Submitted by adedhed68 on Fri, 10/28/2022 - 09:57

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Is in the house, and no, I didn’t order from Amazon. Musictoday got it here right on time and it sounds mighty fine. Just wrapping up the first set now.

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Submitted by Cousins Of The… on Fri, 10/28/2022 - 10:00

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Love me some SOD and Scott Ian.

"I woke up, can't wait to eat
Got my cereal; boy, was I beat
Opened the fridge, and to my dismay
There was no milk; my mother will pay"

Glad to report there's no pitch issues on any of the MSG box shows, speed is right on. Bob shows up for the '83 shows. Some really good stuff in there, notwithstanding Jerry's voice in 82/83

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Submitted by bigbrownie on Fri, 10/28/2022 - 10:21

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The deluxe CD set is 25 bucks plus shipping.

I Like Wedding Cake, too.

Jerry Lee Lewis? Honestly, he had to be the oldest living rock 'n roller.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Fri, 10/28/2022 - 10:27

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Nothing new PM box, just one from 10/25 about tracking etc?
Quincy? Isn’t Carlo from around there?
My ole man’s peeps are from Maaaablehead

The Killer, I’d say rip but I’m not sure he’d know how lol

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Submitted by Angry Jack Straw on Fri, 10/28/2022 - 10:50

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You say that your grandparents are from Marblenoggin?

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Submitted by That Mike on Fri, 10/28/2022 - 10:59

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Oro - No, that’s the one, I wasn’t sure you had seen it, all good. So your Dad hails from Mass? Nice area. Saw my first (only) shark off the Cape while on a deep sea fishing trip there. A fantastic holiday place for a kid back then, no idea now.

Dennis - Blue Note generally aligns their biggie sales around major holidays, so I would expect a big sale as Thanksgiving approaches. Sure, the prices won’t be as spooktacular….(I’ll stop. Right after Halloween…)

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Submitted by Cousins Of The… on Fri, 10/28/2022 - 11:26

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Gotta' love Billy Milano - not for the faint of heart though. Anthrax was a great live band!

Jerry Lee and the Dead shared a few covers: CC Rider, Me & Bobbie McGee, Lovelight, Seasons of my Heart, Green Green Grass of Home, Rockin' Pneumonia, You Win Again, Muddy Waters, and more...

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 10/28/2022 - 11:32

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....Anthrax is STILL a great live band. Saw them open for Slayer a few years ago. Slayer played the complete Reign In Blood album 🤘.
Sadly, they are no more.

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Submitted by Cousins Of The… on Fri, 10/28/2022 - 16:33

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Didn't know Anthrax was still around; saw them in '87 during the Among the Living tour, great show. Caught Slayer a year later for the South of Heaven tour. Tons of great Thrash shows in the Bay Area then, hard to keep up with on top of the Dead and more.

The 5 CD Revolver is $109, vinyl, 7 EPs Half Speed masters is $188 on the Amazons. Don't think it ever needed remastering, but the outtakes would be nice.

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GD 10-11-83
GD 10-12-83
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Submitted by billy the kiddd on Fri, 10/28/2022 - 17:05

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38 years ago tonight, it was Sunday night with the Good ole Grateful Dead. 2nd night of a real fun run of shows. After the show it was time for great bbq down at Everett & Jones down on San Pablo Ave. Fun tines for sure.

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Submitted by Nick1234 on Fri, 10/28/2022 - 20:45

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Last five:

5 classic albums from the Doobie Brothers, Toulouse Street, Captain and Me etc. A bit of a guilty pleasure for me the Doobies, they were always sneered at by my peers in the 70s but without love where would you be right now?

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 10/28/2022 - 21:16

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....so much music. So little time.
Listening to Pepper currently. A nice reggae band.

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Submitted by DeeDeeMcTrivers on Sat, 10/29/2022 - 02:51

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does anyone write about the grateful dead around here? who cares about your vacations and hockey teams.

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Submitted by Colin Gould on Sat, 10/29/2022 - 03:13

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Grateful Who?

Go Phillies

Edit: I got the DaP #44 dispatch email on 22nd but after 7 days UPS still don’t have it.

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