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  • daverock
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    Then Play On

    I've just ordered this one from Amazon for under a fiver. It looks like the same 2013 remaster as then one in the box recommended. One called Bare Trees is also available for the same price, and also looks as though it could be the same as the one in the box. Seems to have more mixed reviews than the other one, though.

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    Fleetwood Mac Box

    I second Charlie3's recommendation for the 69-74 Fleetwood Box. Not a fancy box, similar in concept to the Winterland boxes-won't take much space on the shelf. Supposedly re-mastered, too.

    Edit: And we're not talkin' about the "classic album series" red box re-issue of five of those early albums. That box, like most of the 'classic album series' re-issues, is a great deal, but the 69-74 box is a real box and is light blue.

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    Tough on the knees though

    That description from Vguy sounds like when me and my brother used to play soccer with whoever was around on the pub car park when we were about 10.

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    Early Fleetwood Mac

    Anyone looking for early Fleetwood Mac albums should check out the Fleetwood Mac 1969-1974 box set, includes Then Play On (fantastic album, some pretty psychedelic stuff), Kiln House, Future Games, Bare Trees, Penguin, Mystery to Me (everybody needs a copy just for Hypnotized), Heroes Are Hard to Find, and Live from the Record Plant: December 15, 1974. All of the albums are remastered and include bonus tracks, packaged in a nice compact box with album cover replicas for the individual albums and all for about $45 or less. And anyone curious about Peter Green should check out his album In the Skies.

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    Here's how you make soccer better....

    ....first of all, the playing area is too big. Make it smaller. Make the goal smaller too. Also, there are too many players. Should be a goalie, a center, two defenseman and two forwards. Also, let the players rotate on and off without a stoppage in play. Finally, cover the field with ice. Now we're talking.

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    Magic Soccer Water

    Don’t forget about the magic soccer water. They don’t seem to use it as much as they did in the past, but this elixir has the ability to cure any ailment.

    Squirt this stuff on a mortally injured player writhing around on the ground and he’s instantly cured, ready to resume play.

    I’ll concede that these players are extremely talented athletes, but those antics make the sport unwatchable.

    Oro - diving is a thing of the past in hockey. Now you get a penalty. Soccer needs to do the same.

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    An the Oscar goes to…

    Yeah I noticed the acting skills in the Mexico game lol. Like one chap basically tripped, but gets up all indignant yelling at the Ref and hobbling around holding his shin like he got kicked when it was clear he basically tripped.
    I though hockey players were good at the “dive”, but their rank amateurs comparatively!

    EDIT, Twisted Wisdom, ment in the best possible way, like a shameful ripoff of some HST esgue complement.
    Now settle down and rest up! Don’t make me bring you chicken soup!

    DBL EDIT: yep folks, check out our own MR PC and his Sagebrush Bohemians, definitely worth a listen!

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    Penalty!

    Yes, I like the drama around foul play too. Often some guy will throw himself face down on the grass, and then be all indignant, pretending to have been tripped up. There can't be many matches that go beyond 10 minutes before someone breaks the rules. I can think of only one other game where dishonesty and foul play are so interwoven into the fabric of the whole. And that's politics.

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    It's getting better all the time...

    better, Better, BAY-TUH...

    My continuing gratitude for well-wishers and I redirect those vibes to others here with life-body complications. I got 90 days to go to measure whether the operation worked, but I'm up and around, etc. In for the long haul, gods willing.

    PT -- shop around for that Petty box or send me a PM! Prices do vary widely; I think my final was under $60. Here's the truth: except for exceptional bargains like the 35-disc Mayall box for ~$85, the GD have -- at least in my mind -- established a standard of $10 or less per disc that I assess all other offers by. (Above = bad, below = good, possible purchase.)

    On the '68 releases idea, I can't pretend to know whether it would sell beyond this rabid little community. I loved the story that someone told of playing Anthem for non-GD heads and getting a positive from them. I just think they've got limited supplies and want to part them out carefully over time. So here comes JiminMD with the data: 2001, 2009, 2015, which to me says intervals of 8, 6 and now 7 years -- could it be time? I'd guess Dave & Co. could allow the OSF to release the recently discovered tape and not dent the Vault's remaining inventory.

    I only know that an occasional surprise of vintage TNT would be most welcome. Throw in some late '67 when the cauldron began to boil, spring '68, and Oct '68, and I'll be your slave! (Okay, swore I wasn't going to get kinky here...)

    "Twisted wisdom," is that it, Orrrro?! He of the "white ribbon of death"? Ya know, perhaps for PR purposes (and our friends outside the region) they still label that as "Interstate 70." For those of you who've done the traverse in the past few years, the "Gigantic Hole of Death" is actually just a bit west of Oro's town in central Colorado. It's where a historic mudslide brought a few thousand (millions?) tons of rock and gunk down onto I-70 and obliterated the westbound lane. When you pass and look up into the track, you are looking death in the face. I did that once; now I just accelerate, especially if it's raining. There's some truly stunning drone video of the upper slide area on Youtube -- humbling.

    If you're bored out of your mind, but high, check out The Sagebrush Bohemians on Spotify.........

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    Christine and Danny

    I dug into my early Fleetwood Mac last night to appreciate Christine. I listened to "Bare Trees" and "Future Games". Two things struck me, you could hear her keyboards on lots of the songs, and you could hear her doing wonderful singing duets with Danny Kirwan. Of course, Danny's songs were really good, showcasing his excellent guitar work. Then there's Christine's songs, her lament about touring -"homeward bound", "Spare me a little of your love", "morning rain" and the lovely "show me a smile". IMHO these were peak FM albums, when there was a lot of room for Danny to stretch out musically, with a great band to support him.

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39 years ago tonight, we really cut lose with the Good old Grateful Dead, what an absolute knockout of a good time. Tickets were very hard to get for these two shows, but somehow we got lucky. Cousins or Nite Cat, I bet you guys were there. Crazy fun times.

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No place else to put this, but I hope there is a 30 Days of Dead starting tomorrow. Now back to my regularly scheduled pipe.

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It was Gracias return to the stage after his coma. He had played 2 shows at the Stone in S.F. 2 weeks before. The show was Garcia's band and King fish with Weir. Garcia opened the show Kingfish closed. I was used to seeing Garcia at the tiny Keystone in Palo Alto, I thought his band was kinda swallowed up in the larger Oakland Auditorium. I hadn't seen Kingfish since they had David Torbert and Robby Haddinot in the band, I wasn't that knocked out by this version of the band. It was great to see Garcia back onstage, but this show would pale to when he played his first gig with the Dead on 12/15/86, you just had to be there, and lucky for me I was.

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I was there indeed; I was the one with the huge "10 Days since the Last Day Job" banner. Lo and behold, they played it; one of those magical GD moments.
I did run into Nitecat, if my memory serves me well. Marin Civic was a small place, very nice to catch them there. I saw a great Jerry band show there in early '78, part of it made it to the Pure Jerry 78 release a few years ago(I think Hunter's Comfort opened...)

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BCT in this week's Tapers.
And keep your hands off that candy. It's for the kids.
Remember that house that always gave out the full sized candy bars?
They busted us when we came back for seconds.
Cheers and happy Halloween

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Hey Vguy, actually, it's North Carolina, Asheville. He played last nite and the nite before too, the fellowship of the ring was night one, the two towers was last night and tonight will be the return of the king. He plays Asheville Halloween, last year it was the Wizard of Oz. Quite a trip, check out the write up on facebook, Billy as Frodo, Base player as Gandalf...tickets went faster than last year, there are a few for resale but they are 400. scadouchers or so. Went down to check it out and there was a very long line with everyone dressed up as Shire folk, it was quite the sight. Tonight should be really cool. Happy Halloween everyone.

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Cousins, I had an absolute blast at 10/30/83. All my friends were there and we really were out there. We ran into a guy dressed like Ben Franklin and that guy just had us busting our guts laughing. The next night I was the only one to get a ticket, so it wasn't nearly as fun. I was at that Garcia Acoustic show at the Marin Vets that they put out on the Pure Jerry series, it was very cool. I also saw a great Blues Festival in July of 1984 that was held outside the center, Lowel Fulson and Joe Liggins and the Honey Drippers were 2 of the performers.

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39 years ago tonight I was up at the Marin Veterans Auditorium, to hear the Good Old Grateful Dead pull St. Stephen out the hat one last time. I only saw the Dead do St Stephen one other time 7/13/76 at the Orpheum Theatre. It was cool to see them do the song but I had a lot more fun the night before when all my friends were at the show.

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UPS usually provide a few updates as the item leave Fontana, even if full tracking isn’t available. This time 10 days after the first suggestion that it was on its way UPS still say they are aware of the order but don’t say they have it.
Just to show that it isn’t just Rhino, my order through Amazon for the new Garcialive set has been cancelled by them saying it is unavailable! I could order directly but as I’m in the UK it nearly doubles the price just including postage and could also attract further charges in taxes. Since 1 - 18 are still available from Amazon I’ll wait and hope it eventually appears. It’s odd that they cancelled it only a few days after release since I’ve had some items pre-ordered for months before they get cancelled. Enough moaning, I’ll listen to some of the music I already have.

Colin - I had a similar problem with Garcia 19 and Amazon. I preordered it as soon as it was announced, but come release date, Amazon said they may not carry the item (they have since backtracked, but I won’t see it until the 2nd week in November). They have been doing this more and more lately, such as the latest Wolf Brothers release. I’d prefer to order directly from the Garcia family site, but like now ordering from Dead.net, the international shipping and sundry fees to where I am are a killer (not to mention slow, no-tracking delivery), so I don’t order from them directly anymore. It is why I did not renew my 2023 DaP subscription, which is a real piss off, but it is what it is.

I know we shouldn’t talk hockey here, as some members tend to clutch their pearls, but the Second Best Player from Arizona - Tage Thompson - put up six points last night for Buffalo! (For perspective, think Wilt Chamberlain’s 100 point game in the NBA in 1962). I told people to watch this Buffalo team - after years of mediocrity, they have built a very young, skilled team.

Now, back to your regularly scheduled DaP watch.

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Saw Phil last night for the Holloween show at the Capitol in Port Chester and it was very good!! Dwane Betts is a very good guitar player. Another Son of the original Allman Bros playing a GREAT GUITAR While playing "In Memory of Elizabeth Reed" I felt like I was back at the Filmore east in early 1971 Saw the Allman Brothers at the Filmore East 3 times and the Last Weenend too. Also did Blue Sky

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I meant the last weekend when the Filmore East closed

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Jorma - Quah, almost autobiographical for him.
Jorma - Magic, live winter of 1984 and much like I saw him 1yr. later in Crested Butte.
Larry Coryell and the 11th House - Level One
Jan Hammer - The First Seven Days
Dap 33 - DeKalb! By recommendation here. Dang that's a good one. Sound is perfect Betty!
Cheers
DaP 44 due here Wed. Lovely!

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Day of the Dead, celebrate, celebrate, dance to the music.

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Quah is the bomb! Such a great album, one I think every serious collector should have in their collection. Jorma never got the props I think he deserved as a guitarist, acoustic or electric.

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Told this story before but saw him in a conference room solo, in '85 I think, in Crested Butte, CO. Very small crowd and we had to wait hours for his hands to quit vibrating from haven ridden from Denver on a Harley. Or so we were told.
Great show, he was pretty high I'd guess but fully functional. So quick you can't figure how he does it even when watching up close. Finger picker extraordinaire!
Cheers

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Very early in the morning of October 22nd I received a shipping confirmation mail meaning it must have been sent from America on the 21st. Later that day I clicked on the UPS tracking thingy. There it stated that the shipment was ready for UPS and that the order information had been received at 12:02 AM on October 22nd. Now, at 1:32 PM on November 1st nothing has changed. The shipment is still ready for UPS and the order information has been received. I know this is the year that everything has turned to shit, but really...
As for GarciaLive 19, I ordered it from a local shop here in the Netherlands for 26 Euros. I ordered it on release day and received it the following day. Amazon in Germany are selling it for 71 Euros. They cannot be serious.

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First Show - That’s an incredible Jorma story, likely the most unique reason I’ve ever heard for a reason for a delay in starting a show! Somehow, too, given his life long love of motorcycling, very believable. I guess Jorma used to teach/still teaches guitar from a ranch property he owns in Ohio. Just weeks ago, an archival release of “kitchen tapes” he and Janis Joplin used to make when she was Janis Nobody, from 1964, were released. You hear about the amazing longevity of players like Jorma, who are still bringing it, or Bob Dylan, or Dead & Co, and so forth. Contrast this to flakes like Justin Bieber, mid 20s, who needs to stop touring because he doesn’t feel fresh anymore, or whatever reason. Good grief. Meow.

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Yay! Made it to the theatre on time, was worried when I had to dodge some deer on the road, close!!! Anyway, '72 Dead here we go!!!!

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Um, no.
What's circulating is superior to this release.

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My 44 shipped last week, and if I’m lucky, I might receive it tomorrow. I have read on another board of a couple of people receiving their copy without receiving a shipping email. So, at this point, I’d be willing to bet you will just receive it without a shipping email.

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Boulder, circa 1981-82, Jorm arrives having driven a rental from the East Coast in more or less one go. Three nights with early and late shows. We caught most all of them, racing up and down I-36 in borrowed vehicles and in a state best addressed without the intoxicants we ingested. Jorma walks into the bathroom, pulls up at the urinal next to me, I'm splashing away and say, "Jorma, I named my cat after you." Barely an acknowledgement. He zips and goes. I'm still peeing when Jorma heads for the door, which slams open and in marches my friend. He grabs Jorma by the shoulder and says quite loudly: "Remember Bay Ridge!" (An excellent tape of an excellent Jorma show, but not exactly "Remember the Alamo!") and Jorma expertly twists out of his grip and escapes. I'm still peeing. My friend pulls up. "You missed it. I was just hanging with Jorma!" I looked at him the way Jorma looked at me. F***ing Boulder!

Yes, about to sip a Pilsner Urquell, dabble in a little bud and head down to the theater. Go PIGPEN!!!!

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3589 has arrived! Yay! Now I may stop listening to MSG 82 and check this out. I can't believe I have to choose between two great releases. Which shall I listen to? Oh the decisions I am faced with. : >

Landed at the remote rural PO box yesterday, too lazy to go get it until today at noon... Just finished the first disc, audio/recording quality is excellent so far. Became an instant Jorma fan the first time I heard Embryonic Journey spring of 1967, age 14, vinyl Surrealistic Pillow. Seen him play a bunch, with JA twice, HT quite a few and his memorably intense version of Sugaree at Dear Jerry Merriweather. My impression, listening to him talk about his music, does not look back, it's out, done, whats next, constant evolution, listening to what he is playing always, never dials it in. He's announced a solo tour, will be near this area in March, fingers crossed no blizzard that night. The nearest MUATM is a three hour round trip, must pass waaaaahhh. Vicarious please.

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Took a brief hiatus, I got too angry and PT Barnum, wanna apologize for the way I spoke to you. Had to take a step back, reflect, and listen to some good ol grateful dead. Found the lyrics of UJB ringing out pretty loud, and realized truly that there ain't no time to hate. With all the division being sewn throughout the world, fellowship over this fine band is a mighty important thing.

That being said, should finally get Dave's 44 in the mail tomorrow and enjoyed searching for the Passenger in 30 days of dead today. Always a challenge, sometimes it's easier than others. Although I haven't even heard 44, I can't wait for 45. Also, gave GarciaLive 19 a listen and the Broadway 87 shows a few listens this weekend, always good music for the soul. Hope everyone is enjoying the start of November.

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Love your story about Bob letting Ramblin' Jack down easy and dignified. Over 90 is a rather suspect time to be punk in drublic, not that I am anyone to judge.

There was no world series game last night, Shirley you must be joking? Phils are going to win it all.

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It's all good. We got this.
I have some pretty good weed over here. And enough Grateful Dead for my zip code.
Make America Grateful Again.
I don't do the 30 Days. But fun to read others posts.
I have the Hot Tuna In A Can can. #0121 out of 5k. Any of you have it?
It's a box. In can form. Cue the can-can dancers.
I know where 83% of my physical music is. Found the can and America's Choice is up.
Part of my last five.

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Just received DaP44 in the mail today, been hearing about and listening to the Eugene '90 shows since my friend got back from the shows on June 25th of that year. Heard some great aud tapes and the UltraMatrix but this one is by far the best. Those two Eugene shows are, to me, the best shows of the year. I find it a shame that the show from the 24th has been separated from its sibling; the coolest way to handle it would be to have the 24th be DaP45! But...since that's not going to happen, how about a separate release or a download release? These two shows need to be heard together. You can tell what type of weekend it was going to be just six minutes into 'Feel Like A Stranger'. From that point, they were ON.

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It's amazing how fast these things travel when they need to, mine arrived on 10/31 here in New York. I like it, but I like most releases.

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Caught the "movie" last night. The local movie house struggled to get it going for half-hour, then the boys appeared. The first live shot is of the band from maybe mid-hall and it was grainy, so I feared that would be it for the evening. Wrong. The Danish camera operators really got some amazing footage of all the band members at their tasks and zeroed in on soloists pretty well, including Jer's hands, Bobby's insane rhythm playing and Phil's singing and playing. The clarity of the close-ups was amazing. Pigpen does Hurts Me Too, Next Time You See Me, plays great organ on Truckin' and harp on his own tunes. Someone painstakingly calibrated the audio to the video, it seemed flawless. Add in the fact that the music was executed nearly flawlessly (naturally, Bobby flubs a line in Truckin' by omitting it, but seamlessly returns to the fray). The harmonizing is really good, no overdubs needed. Highlights includes China > Rider and the first-ever He's Gone, in an uptempo version. Jer looks like the cat who ate the canary on this debut. The only downside is that the theater did not serve alcoholic beverages, so it was a good thing I brought a shooter of Jame-o and a pen. I'd buy this film on DVD in a heartbeat. Well worth seeing for anyone sitting on the fence. If you live within reasonable distance, go this Saturday.

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For the review. A+ but I grade on a curve, LOL.
I hope it is released as a DVD. I'll bite.
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Hoping around, got Wheel on now.

I think it's a very nice recording.

While I'm here,,, I mention, again.

It's a shame they never took The Wheel to the heights it was capable of. I always wanted that 15, 20 minutes huge jam into huge vocals,,,, small wheel turn by the fire and rod....

One can dream.

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Go see the Tivoli show on Saturday. Interesting on so many levels (especially for those of us who never saw Pigpen), and there is just plain no substitute for Jerry, and as noted the camera crew did an astounding job. We saw it in Berkeley, but see it wherever you are!
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Got #1598 here in New Jersey, lowest number I've ever received since ordering from 30 on. Subscribed since 33. Not really a surprise but the sound quality is absolutely superior to the listening party mp3. Cheers to all who saw it, don't think I'll be able to make the drive to see 4/17/72 on Saturday, bit of a drive from where I'm at, but totally agree that if they release it, I'll snap it up in a second.

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There were several posts here recently with love for Jorma Kaukonen. So wanted to let folks know he'll be on a week long music cruise in the Caribbean Feb 10 - 17th. Since we can't post lynx, just search "Cayamo". Since it's a made up word, you should readily get to it.

I was last on a Cayamo cruise about 14 years ago (where 2023 will be the 15th edition). What I really like about it is all the spontaneous jamming with artists jumping in with others to do a few songs or a full set. Last cruise I was on folks were calling it "The Buddy Boat" because it seemed like Buddy Miller played with just about everyone. Given there are 30+ acts, I suspect we'll see more of this in the next installment.

When I signed up a couple weeks back, there were still a number of rooms left. Just wanted to make sure folks here were aware of the opportunity!

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Just had an email. from Dead.net telling me my copy of Dave's Picks Vol. 48 has been placed on backorder.
Anybody else got the same email ?

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I too received the same weird email, MaryE, got any idea what is going on? should I cancel and reorder? was about to pay the credit card bill but now I will wait, but I would like to know if I have a subscription or if it is on backorder? how could it be on backorder? why are rhino/warner music/deadnet trying to freak me out? I was good during Halloween, I didn't trick anybody, and I gave out chocolate, no po po candy here. Please advise powers that be.

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either, what's up with that? I log in, go to that page and it say's I'm not logged in, glitches instead of witches, I thought Halloween was over. Spooky

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The Dave's 44 CD came today. I admit I don't listen to the 90s. I do listen to 60s and 70s so I know this band's song list extensively. It sounds strange. Cumberland Blues and Me And My Uncle sound tired. Up to They Love Each Other now. It all seems lackluster and energyless. There is some cool Hammond on TLEO. I don't think I'll ever get used to Vince's voice. Some cool mellow jamming at the end of Cassidy but the song part feels uneven. I'm gonna go the whole way on this one. Is it considered a "great show"? I thought everything from 89/90 was considered the great resurgence and shows were all 5 star. Tennessee Jed sloooow. Someone please pick up the tempo!

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My DaP 44 just arrived. Memories! I had started touring this year - Dominguez Hills, a weird spot to get on the bus - but I missed these Eugene shows because I didn't even know they were happening. I just wasn't connected enough yet. Friends got back from Eugene in late June with stories of how great the shows were. This was after I'd also skipped Cal Expo (but not Shoreline) because I was in college at the time and I was already on academic probation, and I didn't want to fail finals and fail all the way out of college. So instead, listening to all the stories and good vibes from Eugene, I thought "Ok, Fall Tour it is!" I didn't fail out of college, but Fall Tour wasn't to be...

I can remember walking on campus about a month later and learning that Brent was dead, and nothing was ever quite the same again. My friends and I got shut out of the early December shows at Oakland. Managed to score a ticket to the night before NYE later that month, but that would be my one and only NYE run. The following December I was down in SoCal, and I remember listening to (and taping) the FM broadcast and thinking it was underwhelming compared to the Halloween '91 show I'd been lucky enough to attend two months earlier. Little did I know that would be it for NYE runs.

Just goes to show that timing is everything. For now, I plan to spend this time transporting myself back 32 years to Summer 1990, when the band was still humming along and Brent was still with us. For those looking forward to this Eugene show, I hope it lands promptly in your mailboxes if it's not there already.

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Three quarters the way through and HOLY MOLY Jer plays and sings such a great setlist and with truly stunning and touching guitar work and that band and that female chorus are from Heaven via Harlem. Oh man. Every single song is outstanding. But check out Ain't No Bread in the Breadbox, cuz Jer gets funky with his riffs and tone in a long jam section where everyone is playing off each other. Trust me on this one. And for October 1992, just wow.

I'll say something potentially unpopular. I checked out of the scene in 1987 after a few years of Jer's decline. My bad, cuz I missed the resurgence of 1989-90. (Did catch the Hornsby GD in Chicago in June 91 and two more in June 92, as well as Jer bands, 1975 to 1991.) But I have to conclude, based on the recorded evidence, that perhaps Jer would have been happier and less morose if he had put the GD to rest and just gone off into the sunset with his own band. You all know I'm a dyed in the wool Deadhead, but Jer's playing in '90s with both bands draws a contrast for me that favors the JGB. At least that's how I feel today after getting my ass kicked by GL 19!

Another contrast: I'm a huge fan of Garcia-Saunders and that early bar band jam thing-y. BUT the latter day JGB with Melvin Seals and the gospel singers just plain rings my bell.

Don't miss the Tivoli film if you can make it.

Over and out, peoples!

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Agree with HF and Marye, this is a film to see. Excellent mix, you can hear all instruments clearly. It's insightful to see Jerry or Bob's fingers play the notes as you hear them. China Rider, the very first He's Gone performance (without the bridge), Truckin', and Saturday Night. There were occasional shots of the audience, many in front were dancing. Also bittersweet to see Pigpen in one of his final performances. He looked very thin. He didn't feel well for most of the tour, but stepped up to every last performance. I also enjoyed seeing Bob and Jerry singing duets on some songs, like Me & Bobby McGee. Hair on the back kinda stuff.

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