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  • daverock
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    Pink Floyd live

    That was my impression of Pink Floyd, that from DSOM onwards they basically played sets that were quite formalised, with no improvisation and no chances taken. They were the only band from that era that I saw, who played complete albums from beginning to end in concert. I only saw them twice, though. The first one, at Knebworth in 1975 was a bit more unpredictable. They played two sets - the first of which consisted of unrecorded songs that would later appear on "Wish You Were Here" and "Animals". In 1977 when I saw them they played the whole of "Animals" followed by the whole of "Wish You Were Here", with "Money" as the encore. I never felt like seeing them again after this one.
    In some ways they were at the opposite end of the psychedelic spectrum to The Dead. They were a bit wilder earlier on, before I clambered on board.

  • icecrmcnkd
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    Floyd uploads

    Not sure why they would want to extend copyright protection on crappy sounding AUDs.

    Floyd may have been another pioneering band in high quality concert sound, but they apparently weren’t smart enough to record everything.
    On the other hand, everything probably isn’t needed since they played basically identically night after night (which I read before was because the music had to match the visuals).
    I recall several years ago when I was trying to differentiate back to back nights of DSOTM, the difference was that in one of the recordings you could hear someone kick a glass bottle across the floor near the microphone.

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    Ramblings from the mine

    (Cue the instrumental version of Christmas time is here off of the Vince Guaraldi Peanuts Christmas album!)

    Since it’s supposed to be the season: just would like to echo the kindness/compassionate sentiment.
    As the world seems to be swirling down the proverbial shiter, kindness and compassion seem more important than ever! It’s the one thing every human can do, no matter what your situation or who you are.
    No matter how tough it might be for you, there’s always someone who has it worse, so even just the smallest gesture of caring can make giant difference in someone else’s journey. Just a little smile, to the right person, at the right time, could change someone’s life! It’s that simple!

    Think of how how vguy delt with that angry wing nut. Not so much the interaction itself, but hopefully perhaps the impression it made on those there that witnessed it. Maybe next time it’ll be one of them and in their subconscious they’ll now posses that ability to turn the other cheek, to let it go, to perhaps even have compassion for that guy who probably thinks he means well…forgive them as they know not what they done. Perhaps it’s all a test?
    All I know is as things appear to get more dire, the more I can try to feel kindness, especially in situations where it wouldn’t normally be the case, the better I feel. It’s like wining some kind of personal lottery to be kind, especially if the person “doesn’t deserve it”.
    When I was a doorman, one of the bellmen had this thing where if he checked someone in and they didn’t tip, or were cheap, instead of getting mad like the rest of us might do, and even go out of our way to not give them good service etc, this guy would spend the entire time the guest was with us trying to be even extra helpful and kind. Often, by the time the cheapskate left us, he’d actually end up tipping this bellmen better than if he’d just give the usual upon check in. It was cool to watch this guy take such a negative, and turn it into a positive, even if it didn’t pan out in tips.
    Like, the more folks are dicks, the more I’m going to be kind!

    So cue up Ryan Adams song Kindness, and think of at least one way you can make a difference in someone’s life today.
    Tamp down all the noise, especially at this time of year, open up that GD hippie sonar, and shed some positive light and kindness out there. I mean what else is there?

    Who’d a thunk Ain’t no time to hate, and are you kind? would become increasingly more pertinent over time.
    Yep that damn Hunter sure was a smart fellow to be sure. Although many great rock lyrics still resonate, one could argue that the Dead, especially Hunters lyrics could actually be more relevant now, 50 some years later!

    Quite the gift!
    So if some rouge bastard steals your sears poncho, or was that a real poncho? Maybe it’s just a test to see who the fallen angels are out there. Kindness tested, kindness sustained. That’s one of my favorite things about this dnet place. Oh sure we squabble and bitch about this and that, mostly nothing, but like family, we’re usually pretty cool to each other.
    So sorta like Mickey said, take these feelings, and put them out into the world and do some good.

    And please be careful and stay warm out there folks, especially those who aren’t used to this “winter” weather!
    Make like a Boy Scout and be prepared, cause like GOT’s winter is coming!

    Nice to see HF seemingly his ole self. Hopefully Nappy feeling better after another bout of sickness, and Jeff Smith and the Mrs too. Mr Jimmys had a tough year too, so hoping he and his, as well as all y’all have a safe and prosperous new year too! And anyone I missed? Oh yeah, I know DMCVTs had a rough year too!

    Ok, a couple more quick tunes before I head down the mine:
    Cue up 8 days of Hanukkah and Ain’t no Chimneys in the Projects, by Sharon Jones and the DaP Kings.
    I mean it is supposed to be a celebration and who knows how to celebrate better than Deadheads!
    Stay home, Be safe, be well, find somebody warm to snuggle with!
    Ho fuggin ho, and a Festivus for the rest of us!

  • icecrmcnkd
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    Happy Festivus

    My Festivus complaint is that I have to wait too long between Boxes.
    2 Boxes per year Dave/Rhino.

    -4 F (-20 C) here with a “feels like” -26 F.

    At this point a little Cold Rain and Snow sounds warm.

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    Spreadsheet for GD shows.

    Jake R, can I ask you to please check your PM?

    Have a beautiful day.

    Regards.

  • hendrixfreak
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    Good sentiments, vguy

    The reason humans are living longer (though not in the barbaric US) is that, as toolmakers, we put a barrier between us and the environment, while wildlife, for sure, may nest and den, but otherwise they're out "there" and that makes for greater mortality. But it's vguy's tenderness in caring for others that I dig. And only 54?? (Spring chicken...)

    As for stormiest shows, I cannot recall the date(s), but more than one Red Rocks GD show was played in the pouring rain. I was pretty close and no one in front of me left. Behind me, all I saw was a multicolored collection of ponchos. (Ha! Deadhead story: I have two raincoats with me at the Rocks and it begins to pour. I grant a stranger one of them, which matched with rain pants. I.e., my valuable backcountry ensemble. After the show he walks away with the jacket. Two years later, same scenario and I see the guy wearing my jacket. So I said, 'Hey, I want that back.' He says 'Let me use it during the show.' I said 'Okay.' After the show he disappears again, forever this time. Today I recall the loss of gear, but do not want to let it make me less willing to help a fellow DH. Perhaps a faint echo of vguy's compassionate stance towards other creatures. But I'm still a little pissed!)

    Okay, by now, Dave L. has made his 2023 box decision. Mr. Norman is reviewing the tapes for anomalies and the artist is offering sketches of his/her/their approach. But will it be a box I can pass on or will it be a monster '73 pkg that recalls my first big, year-long outing (at least June to October)?? And when during the year will they drop the Wake of the Flood reissue? Early on, with the box later??

    I am the worst.............

  • PT Barnum
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    woke up this morning

    rolled outta those sheets
    looked out the window
    man, it was bleak
    5 degrees on the meter
    made me weak
    pulled back the curtains
    the sun streamed in
    rainbows everywhere as the sun shone through the ice
    then the wind began to blow
    I could see more ice in the wind
    looked up at the mountains
    covered in snow
    realized right then
    I had nowhere to go
    so I made some joe
    and turned on the tv
    they all said like a plea
    frozen in five
    think I'll just sit here and play
    dead all day.

  • proudfoot
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    I have to credit my beloved for getting us here

    She planned this trip months ago.

    THANK GOODNESS.

  • Vguy72
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    Things Are Tough All Over....

    ....except in the southwest currently. Please. Be safe out there America. Frostbite in less than ten minutes on unexposed skin. Fifty degree temp drops in literally minutes. I worry about the homeless and the animals most of all.
    Climate change is the real deal.
    I'm 54 years old and have never heard of weather like this.
    Proudfoot chose wisely.

  • proudfoot
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    "It's desert music, man"

    Name that movie!

    Spending some time in the Palm Springs area

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holy crap Vguy, just read your previous post about being accosted by a lunatic in the grocery store with a concealed weapon because you had on........a dead shirt that had a really great message on it. Make Amerika Grateful Again. It's a good message, it's not really making fun, is it? I have seen this shirt and I think it is awesome. In the grocery store, concealed weapon, what the hell is happening to this country? It has all ready started, the republicans and the last person in the white house who shall not be named, are all ready talking about rigged elections. It may be too soon to say it, but is it over for this experiment that is a free republic? I voted, I made sure my 96 yr old mother in law voted (blue) and I have signed up to take people to the poles who can't get there on tuesday. That's all I can do. I won't go out and antagonize crazies who are poll watching or conceal carry to intimidate anyone, but I will do what ever I can to stop this madnesss that is trying to take over this country. You showed great restraint Vguy, when he grabbed you, how did you not remove his hand, did you grab his hand and ask him to let you go? How did you get him to let you go? was it the crowd? cowards Make America Grateful Again, political rant over and apologizes to any and all who I might have offended.
Highest # ever for me with a Dave's 24657 but it's here and will check it out in all its glory today. Peace and vote

Since you ask. Not here in UK yet. Mine is still in CA awaiting processing in Fontana. After 2 weeks I finally have an alternate tracking number, that ends FR so it is going to go to France once it starts moving. Should be here in the next couple of weeks but that’s normal.

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Barnum: well said

Vguy: you showed admirable restraint. If that had happened to me, cops may have been called.

Be well everyone, except... you know who.

\m/

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Drummer and Singer with Low. I’ve enjoyed their music for many years.

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....to answer the question, he let go of me on his own. I think he realized that people around were starting to take notice. Some phones were starting to come out. Like I said, he wasn't exactly whispering and I'm glad a video of the interaction didn't hit social media should that conversation had gone on longer. The entire event lasted maybe 30 seconds.
I'm not 100% against conceal carrying. I mean, I own a couple of firearms. Would I conceal carry though? No. But I do worry about the mental stability of those that do. Its a slippery slope of a topic. That dude had crazy eyes though and the last thing I was going to do was stoop to his level of anger and stupidity even though i did feel my blood pressure rising. Not worth my time.
It's the day and age we unfortunately live in and will not change overnight.
Time to tune into the Dolphins vs da Bears. Wearing my Marino jersey today. Muted with TTB on the big boy stereo.
And extra hour of sleep today was nice.
Here's a hot take. I think America was great before you know who ran on a campaign saying that it wasn't.
Now, it's not too great. Thanks jerk.
I will piggy back pt's comment of so many admitted election denyers running for political offices. Concerning to say the least.
Ain't no time to hate. Barely time to wait. Take care out there peeps, because you never know.
Thanks for bearing with me. Y'all are the best 💚

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Has anyone ever had to reach out to Dead.net about a botched delivery on a Dave's Picks? Mine was marked "delivered, in/at mailbox" on Thursday but was not there and has not popped up in subsequent days either.

If I reach out to Dead.net is there any chance they'll ship me a new copy?

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....happened to me once. Said it was delivered, but didn't actually show up until three days later.
Dave's 40 I believe.
Pm Marye. She has our backs.

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Their Christmas EP is a tradition in our house Xmas day. I like that one a lot.

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....to all the movie heads out there, may I highly recommend All Quiet On The Western Front on Netflix.
Intense with grate cinematography.
War is hell.

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To answer my own question, the a capaella version of Brokedown Palace is by The Persuasions from a 2000 cd called Might As Well, The Persuasions sing the Grateful Dead

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....I will check them out. Parry doing the research. Thanks Frank!
It's a far gone lullaby
Sung many years ago
Mama, mama, many worlds I've come
Since I first left home.
Chills.
GG in Chicago. Moving on from TTB to King Gizzard's Ice, Death, Planets, Lungs, Mushrooms and Lava. Solid album from front to back. Psychedelia greatness. Found out they played here in Vegas in April. Right before I discovered them. Doh!!
I'll catch them eventually.

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Yes Frank! I'll be looking for that one.
Love The Persuasions.
Cheers

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V, I am also a handgun owner, and long time NRA member. If I'm out in public, I almost never carry. I live in a primarily crime free 10 mile area, and have no need to carry such a weapon, but my apartment is a different story. I feel sorry for the sap who breaks through the door at night uninvited. He better be armed to the teeth. Especially if my daughter is over. David Crosby got into some trouble over the years for gun ownership, but he is famous, and a little crazy. I have a lot of respect for guns, and I never used them for harm.......or did I? Dap 44 sure builds up in speed as it plays. Good show.

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'Love buzz'. I used to love Mariska veres back in the late 70s. It's a pretty defining song that was the 60s.

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YEP. I love all in the family. I think Lionel said it. What movie?

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Guns?

Statistics show you're more likely to shoot a loved one or have it used on you than you actually shooting "the intruder".

(great Gabriel song)

I was shocked to learn (recently) that half the handgun deaths are suicide!

Finally, I always think of the Harry Carey's line from Angel and the Badman.

The only man who needs a gun, is a man who carries a gun.

Hope I didn't start a huge argument like I mentioned politics,,,,,, or Andy Williams. I will never understand the Andy haters!

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.... did I read right?

Does Taylor Swift have all 10 slots of the top 10 taken up?

That's a wild thing!!! I don't think I'd could tell you one TS song!

And now Dennis the evil bastardo is ratcheting up the fear machine with threats of Andy Williams!
The Horror!

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While sorting thru an enormous amount of "stuff", came across "Art Jackson's Atrocity - Gout" album.

Anyone hear of it?

Was supposed to be a joke or mystery album?

Supposed to be psychedelic album,,,, a quick jab at a few cuts showed maybe,,, maybe a fusion album. But the web pages that came up intrigued me.

Knowledge and thoughts?

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Don't let the sweaters fool ya. Andy could cut a bitch faster than you could say Englebert Humperdink!

Moon River deep enough to hide, I dump the bodies there you see.

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Anyone else remember the tv special ‘The H Andrew Williams Kaleidoscope Company’ where Andy went ‘hip’? My limited memory of it has a guest appearance by Simon and Garfunkel.

Dennis obviously has a Blank Space for TS but I’m sure he can Shake It Off otherwise ‘We are never, ever, getting back together.

All in the Family was based on the UK show ‘til death us do part. This is a show which is difficult to watch now with its casual racism and bigotry but did lead The Monkees (Mickey Dolenz) to write ‘Alternate Title’ which was originally called ‘Randy Scouse Git’ after the name used by Alf Garnett in the show for his Liverpool born son in law.

I’d advise everyone to get out and vote to Make America Sensible Again but it’s not going to happen. This, of course, is coming from someone in a country being run by a group of expletive deleted.

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A one hour musical special that aired on April 28, 1968 on NBC. Guest stars included: Ray Charles and The Raylettes, Burt Bacharach, Simon and Garfunkel and Mama Cass Elliott. Quite interesting use of the kaleidoscope meaning with appropriate for the time psychedelic backgrounds and some excellent music.

Never saw this and I was a big andy fan. Watched his tv show every week. ah, the cookie eating bear and mr echo.

This might be up to watch,,,, I'm going back to check.

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Andy is just a bit milquetoast for me. But you like what you like.

If he had covered Waiting for the Man by VU, that would have scored him some points from me.

"It's the most wonderful rush of the year
my skin it is itching
my eyes they are twitching
and now I'm strung ouuuuut"

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I replied to our old friend FourWinds comment on the Dave's 43 thread, but this is worth a repost here. Shoutout to our dear friend FourWinds

This one's for you HendrixFreak

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Regarding Fall '72 Reels, Google Dick Latvala Introduces The Philo Stomp

It will bring you to a David Gans radio broadcast with guest host Dick Latvala on the Grateful Seconds blog where he seems to introduce the term Philo Stomp. Philo Stomp is a whole other conversation totally worthy of exploration.. but back to the point, Dick suggests there is a cache of Bear Reels that seem to not be indexed or included as vault shows but do exist, many of these from Fall 1972.

To quote Latvala from the hijacked Gans radio broadcast:

"I did go into Bear's Secret Stash and I did find a lot of fall '72 shows...."

Check it out. An interesting and pertinent chunk of history.
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In other news:
Americans told not to lick psychedelic toads

Hikers in the US have been warned to “refrain from licking” psychedelic toads. Officials said the Sonoran Desert Toad secretes a potent toxin that can make people sick if they touch the frog or get the poison in their mouths. The substance is sometimes crystalised and smoked as a psychedelic substance, said the New York Times. However, writing on Facebook, the National Park service described the potential risks as “toad-ally terrifying”.

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Andy Williams and guns? Can't think how we got here but it did remind me of Andy's love Claudine and a rhyme from a curious incident. "Along came a Spider and sat down beside her, and she blew the poor !@#$er away." Determined to be an accident under suspicious circumstances as I recall. Sabitch was a hell of a skier. Now back to Eugene for a second go.
Cheers
Oh, and there's a Philo Stomp in today's 30 Days 'o Dead.

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Strange days have found us
Strange days have tracked us down
They're going to destroy
Our casual joys
We shall go on playing
Or find a new town

Profound words on The Doors title track to their second album. My company just laid off 25% of IT. My team is now down to two, same headcount when I joined the company almost 10 years ago and we've grown 500% since then from an infrastructure perspective. I thought I was done, but I architected the latest and most complex solutions we have, so might have bought some time.

Unbelievable VGuy - you have such a gregarious personality and being towering in height, not sure what was his major malfunction. Glad you didn't go Gunny Sgt Hartman on the loser: "What is your major malfunction, numbnuts? Didn't Mommy and Daddy show you enough attention when you were a child?"

Loving DaP44 - reminiscent of the great shows I got to see from '87 onward...

Still working my way thru the MSG box - Glad they have this era represented but kind of a tough slog for me. Not having Bobby's guitar in the mix was a bit of a shock for the one of the shows on the yearly major release. I'm sure I will enjoy the nuances of Jerry's guitar with more listens.

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The San Francisco Chronicle today has a couple of decent articles on the 50th Anniversary of Sweetwater in Mill Valley and its history and upcoming shows and celebrations there. (For any who may not know, Weir is a co-owner of the latest version of this venue).

Search for them on sfchronicle dot com. Sometimes they'll block you and ask you to subscribe, other times they're open to read. Don't ask me why, but I'm not a subscriber and was able to access them this morning.

The best 2 shows I saw there over the years (at the original location) were Jorma and Jack Cassady in their acoustic blues duo - front row chairs - and Dan Hicks and band with his ever witty swing tunes. Good times.

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The San Francisco Chronicle today has a couple of decent articles on the 50th Anniversary of Sweetwater in Mill Valley and its history and upcoming shows and celebrations there. (For any who may not know, Weir is a co-owner of the latest version of this venue).

Search for them on sfchronicle dot com. Sometimes they'll block you and ask you to subscribe, other times they're open to read. Don't ask me why, but I'm not a subscriber and was able to access them this morning.

The best 2 shows I saw there over the years (at the original location) were Jorma and Jack Cassady in their acoustic blues duo - front row chairs - and Dan Hicks and band with his ever witty swing tunes. Good times.

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The San Francisco Chronicle today has a couple of decent articles on the 50th Anniversary of Sweetwater in Mill Valley and its history and upcoming shows and celebrations there. (For any who may not know, Weir is a co-owner of the latest version of this venue).

Search for them on sfchronicle website. Sometimes they'll block you and ask you to subscribe, other times they're open to read. Don't ask me why, but I'm not a subscriber and was able to access them this morning.

The best 2 shows I saw there over the years (at the original location) were Jorma and Jack Cassady in their acoustic blues duo - front row chairs - and Dan Hicks and band with his ever witty swing tunes. Good times.

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I saw Elizabeth Cotton play at the Sweetwater, also saw Frank Wakefield and David Nelson play there. We would always stop at Village Music before we went to the Sweetwater. Great little place to see music.

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Sorry for the multiple posts. Problems with Captcha and website operation.

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I saw David Nelson there at the new venue also just before the pandemic IIRC. Also Eric Thompson, a good local bluegrass picker.

Village Music was definitely an institution, lots of the famous used to stop in there.

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Great guitar player, I saw him and David Nelson play over at the orIginal Freight & Salvage a couple of times, I taped both shows. We would always go to Everett & Jones Bbq after seeing shows in Berkeley

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You provide a tantalizing glimpse at what could be.... the discovery of the missing first reel to my first show, 9-19-72, which may still await us in Bear's mystery reels. I have alerted the OSF to look for that 1st reel setlist and get that entire show archived. Naturally, at the time -- a newly minted 15 year old with only GD records for reference -- I couldn't have told you that it was a hot show, only that it went on so freakin' long ("What are these people ON? Ohhh....") But we know with the benefit of hindsight that late August to early November '72 that band was on a streak.

Lettuce prey!

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Road Trips and Dick's Picks.
Once a year CD sale.
DiPs 2, 11, 14 are back again too.
Cheers

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1stshow beat me to it, but man there's some tasty stuff and I went for it like a fish for the hook.

Jesse Ed Davis solo CD
Willie Nelson earliest solo demos
Art Blakey (just becuz)
Bob Wills & Texas Playboys (just becuz)
DP 34 (inexplicably missing from the collection, which has lots of hot Nov '77)

I had to resist ordering duplicates of Feb '68, April '69 etc because ... why???

On to speculation for the 2nd Dave's for 2023, which is to be revealed prior to subscription shutdown in ???

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Anyone else had the following situation? I ordered a Dave's Picks subscription on day one of announcement and had my credit card charged but on payment screen received a message "order could not be placed". No email confirmation or order number received despite payment taken.
Dead.net support not replying to my emails. Very poor service as I have been an annual subscriber from DaP1.

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I am going with 10/24/72 with bonus from 10/23 or two shows from July '74.

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2 full shows from Owsleys boxes from 1968, 1969 or 1970. One full show will be the bonus disc.

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1st guess- 7/27&28/73
2nd- 6/10/73 with po 6/9
3rd- 5/26/73
Last 3, 4? Years, second pick has been 73 or 74. Last year was 74, so…?

WOTF bonus: 9/15 or 17/73. If you count WRS all as one song these are the only 2 shows with 6 songs off the album and their good shows!

Box: summer 73

I suggest placing another order using a different browser, and even a different credit card.

Then tell the first credit card company to cancel payment because the retailer does not have a record or your purchase.

Also, you don’t need to create an account to place an order, you can check out as guest.
Worked for me.

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