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  • billy the kiddd
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    1968 The Great Northwest tour box set

    It's comming, some of the tapes are in the vault, the rest are in Owsleys boxes. It's gonna be a knockout!

  • Dennis
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    Hey Dave, got email from Experience vinyl's christmas sale. I saw they had a Hawkwind LP for preorder (we are looking in on you too). Thought it might interest you.

    Further note, I laughed when they show 3 from the vault being released in two day!!!! (right)

    1 and 2 pushed back till next year (again)!!!

    And the hits keep coming!

  • hendrixfreak
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    What is the format and timing for a '68 release?

    Just an exercise to see if my logic is still working... (Admittedly, there's a short distance between "logic" and "rationalization.")

    Releasable shows from '66 to '68 must be considerably rarer than the rest of the '69 to '95 period. Strategically, for the long haul, Dave wants to preserve a few "surprises" from '66 to '68 -- whether that really serves the "legacy" or just the business of the legacy. Yet when an unusual tape is uncovered (think 18 April '70) Dave has shown interest in kicking up dust with a release outside of the annual box and DaP series.

    I see three basic avenues for '68 release(s) or other oddball tapes (think MG's now-near-forgotten stash return): the annual box, DaP, and one-off RSD or just a special one-for-the-fans. (Although I was underwhelmed when they coupled a '68 release with that cartoon history book. C'mon! Why dangle a '68 to sell effin' cartoons??)

    If it's a box, do we think that Rhino is going to green light a more focused version of the porch crusher and go with a 10-CD collection of '66-'70? (That's what I wanted and they threw in '71-'95.) You know they're not going to release a 20-CD box from that span.

    A 3-disc DaP would seem friendly to, say, two or three '68 shows and I'd soil my diapers for that route.

    Or they do a one-off with the newly discovered June '68 tape from Owsley's banana boxes; even a short, limited edition release would cover its costs and reinvigorate the die-hards (that's us) belief in the almighty Vault's potential. OR (coffee!!) TPTB let the OSF release '68 GD.

    The recent MSG box demonstrates that there's plenty of great rock 'n roll in the Vault, but what percentage is really of keen historical interest, by which I mean transitional shows early in the band's development? I think it's telling that Dave commented, I think, on the PNW box (might be another box) that he proposed a 10-12 CD set and Rhino said make it a 20-CD set -- so the latter must be a sweet spot for production margins, meaning profit. (Ah, the word "profit"! I have no hang-up with that: no profit, no Vault releases.)

    So I see a potential '68 release(s) as a one-off in the DaP series or a special release. And I think it's key to create some Vault-related "excitement" because here's my personal calculus: I'm 65. Been a devoted customer of the recordings since 1971, live shows from '72 to '92 (so, 50+ years). Quit the scene in '87 after the band (Jer) ran out of steam and at age 30 I was actually evolving -- not mutating, just evolving... Over time, as with Jimi, the ABB and other favorites, the recordings replaced the defunct band as my foci. But as you may surmise from my recent news, I am switching gears and considering new ways of approaching life. In other words, if Dave is planning another, say, 15+ years of releases, shouldn't they front-load it with those great, transitional early shows? 1966 is fun, but '67 and '68 are typically ferocious. Will I still care about '68 tapes in five years? In 2027, the band will have been defunct for 32 years. I know the "kids" (20s and 30s today) love this stuff but I don't think they "get" '68. Just a guess.

    So many roads, so many words, when I could have just said: More '68, NOW!

  • dmcvt
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    Fancy boxes, 1968

    Here's another vote for simple packages, i.e. like Winterland box sets. Three-four show runs with 10-12 discs priced under $100 postpaid. Simple. Bet they would sell well, easier to produce. Shelf space is an issue here, as much as might like the fancy boxes with extras, they just sit on a shelf, its all about the music. On CD. Speaking of which and in HF reference to 1968, how about that Betty Nelson's Organic Raspberry Farm 9-2-68, Sky River Rock Festival show.

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    😊

  • Nick1234
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    HF I agree. All that packaging crap is one of the reasons that I rarely buy the boxes these days. The Winterland boxes are classy, really nice, easy to store and use, let's go back to that format. And why are they so expensive? Dylan's Rolling Thunder Revue box was 14 discs for £50.

  • daverock
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    That was never a goal

    Nevertheless, I am sure I speak for football fans the world over when I say I hope... Japan win.

    I think the England team are benefitting from the fact that no alcohol is allowed in the stadiums. They play much better sober.

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    Songbird is indeed a phenomenal song.

    It can be interpreted from multiple perspectives.

  • Nick1234
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    What's going on?

    Belgium out, Germany out, England score 6 and then 500 on the first day. What's going on?

  • hendrixfreak
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    Feelin' bett-uh

    Vibes much appreciated, trust me.

    Hey, I ordered the new Petty 4-CD box Monday, it just landed. It is a model of minimal packaging while still being a fun package. I know that Dave & Co. love to work up each year's box and I have no complaints, I have argued that the effort on the packaging lends dignity to the music release. But environmentally I wonder whether a new more minimalist approach would be welcomed on GD boxes.

    Just a thought... Hitting the couch now. Many thanks for the support.

    DMCVT: look for a gray-ish shirt with tiny white dots! Gawd, that was an experience, especially at my age back then.

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Just picked up:
Oscar Peterson
Louis Armstrong
Puss n Boots
Joss Stone sp?
Lindsey Sterlings latest

Maybe the Monkeys wouldn’t be so bad lol

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Your collection probably needs the Fleetwood Mac ‘Worlwide Live’ unofficial Box.
10 CD’s for $40.
8 Fleetwood Mac CD’s ranging from 1968 at the Carousel to 1990, along with a Stevie solo and a Lindsey solo.
Sounds pretty good. The only show that I already had was the 75 show. FM/pre-FM sources.
I figured that for $4/CD I should check it out.

Saturday Day Tripper says Vguy…..

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...is playing (the whole show) on Sirius today.

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....yup. Caught that nitecat. Sounds really good.
It's only a matter of time before the Ark happens.
Coming around.
"And when the day it ended"
Sitting in my driveway.

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Who's There

Ark

Ark Who

Ark Box

And so it is written

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Yes, not if but when will these gems get released. I hope when it happens David Duryeau writes the liner notes. As cool a cat as ever posted here once upon a time. He certainly loved his primal GD.

Speaking of 69.. Banana box? Holy Cow 43 was good, 44 is up on deck. We live in the valley of riches, but of all the releases the last few years the 69 was the big surprise. I'll take a double dose of that any day.

As you were.. one more Saturday Night.

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I never really got into punk but I quite liked PiL. RIP Keith Levene.

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New Bill Frisell will be on the doorstep shortly. I’m warming up the wireless/hi-fi already, in anticipation.

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....yup.
Went to the store again today.
Guess what?
Everyone was chill. The cashier was tall and thin like me. She acknowledged my Dolphins cap.
She had cool star 🌟 tats on her wrist.
One week at a time dear.
Current listening. 9.29.99. Phish. Pyramid.
Freeeeee

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I popped in the giants stadium 7/12, and it gets me every time. The whole first set like HIAB, loser, and TOS. the band was firing on all cylinders, especially Jerry and Brent with that tinkling keyboard is so sweet. Being there for most of the shows makes me bias. Just had to mention it. Back to dap 44. Great show.

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If I could pick only one Grateful Dead show to see out of all the shows they played, it would be one of the acoustic/ electric shows from 1970.

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guess who is testing positive for Covid 19?

MMMMEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!

after all this time and 16 boosters.

being a teacher and being around kids = heapin' helpings of germ soup.

Fehk!

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Another one. Yikes! It's everywhere now.
And not a mask in sight.
Take it easy PF.
My local friend took a week. His wife like 10 days.
And they were just ready to get their bi-valent (Omicron+Corona).
I went and found the bi-valent (still scarce here) right after that.
Full effect around third week after booster, so about now for me.
But we are still doing masks in crowded stores since we have some COPD.
Best wishes and cheers

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Last thursday we went to zoo lights
Psychedelic wonderland

Come home
"THE DOG ATE MY CHOCOLATE!"
chocolate is toxic to dogs
Went to pet emergency hospital
Induced vomiting and overnight stay
16 hundred fookin dahlurz

Sigh

Dog is fine

Thank you 1st show

And

I see on rollingstone site they are selling GD underwear.

Rufkm

Incontinence pads maybe. But underwear?

Reminds me of the Great GD Gardening Apron Rant

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Ah man, haven't been to Zoo Lightssince the kids were little, maybe this is the year. Sorry the rest of the night wasn't as good.
Congrats to the state of MD, welcome to the 21st century

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Get well soon Proudfoot

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Holy shite PF - Covid, and then the dog ate chocolate! Get better - both of you - sending positive vibes your way.
PS - The Kraken are still The Krapen hockey team, but me like those new “third” jerseys!

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Be well soon PF!

And!…was the chocolate an edible, or just regular?

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....I have a stash of mushroom laced chocolates. Not snacks for Scooby.
Get better. I've dodged covid as far as I know, and I interact with multiple people a day.

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I purchased Dave's Picks 44, and it arrived as scheduled. The outer mailing box was punctured, and when I opened it, little pieces of plastic starting falling out. The CD case was broken. When I opened that, I discovered that CD3 was chipped and cracked. Today I listened to CD1 and discovered that it was defective. Tennessee Jed > Promised Land does not play. Anyone else have this problem? I have not listened to CD2 yet. I contacted customer service, and I learned that there were no replacement CDs available. Defective merchandise can be returned for a full refund. I am hoping that someone would be willing to email me digital copies of those songs that I am missing so that I can at least have the complete show. As I said, songs 1-7 on CD1 are fine. Songs 8>9 are defective. I haven't tried playing CD2, and CD3 is no good at all. Can somebody please help me out? Thank you!

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Scarlet Fire

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Send a PM to MaryE.

In case you haven't sent a PM before: To send a PM, if you are logged in, on the upper right of the screen are your account options, cleck here, select messages and you can probably figure out how to send a PM from here. either that or fumble through customer service. They can probably pull something better than a refund off..??

Edit: Ooops.... Proudfoot beat me to this by a couple hours. I didn't see his response before I replied. Apparently, he and his dog have been eating mushroom chocolates all day and have developed super human powers as evident by their lightening fast and accurate response.

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My dog Sarge, the brindle bull Mastiff had cancer, and was put down tonight. 14 years old. He was a loyal companion. "He's gone."

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Condolences Carlo13.

I'm pretty certain that Sarge was very happy to have had you around with him for 14 special years. You took good care of him and now he has an opportunity to rest. You provided space in this world for him and that is a special love that was returned.

Stay strong and stay positive.

Carlo - Sorry to hear you had to put to sleep your beloved dog companion Sarge. Such a tough loss.

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That a new '69 Miller board remaster is making the rounds in all of the usual places...

Grateful Dead - May 11, 1969
Aztec Bowl (SDSU) - San Diego, CA

All Transfers and Mastering by Charlie Miller
November 14, 2022

Notes:
-- This show often circulates as 5/29/69 Santa Barbara
-- Mike Carabello and Chepito Areas on percussion for Alligator > Lovelight
-- Possiobly Gregg Rolie on vocals during Lovelight
-- Thanks to Matthew Zavislak for the DAT
-- Thanks to Mike Babyak for his input on the pitch correction

Setlist:
01 - Morning Dew
02 - That's It For The Other One>
03 - Good Morning Little Schoolgirl
04 - Me And My Uncle
05 - Alligator >
06 - Turn On Your Lovelight

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Sorry to hear about your loss Carlo, losing a pet is very sad.

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Putting down a faithful companion may be the hardest thing you'll ever do in this life. This from an animal person who put down his 20-yr-old cat earlier this year. The day-to-day intimate and often subconscious connection is nearly unbreakable. And yet... mercy requires courage and acceptance. This will be hard in the days ahead. I survived by focusing on the blessing and cosmic luck of the years together and the realization, which does not come easy, that "there's nothing you can hold for very long," thanks Robert Hunter.

You did good for fourteen years and your departed buddy would wish you peace. As do we.

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et al. Sorry for the loss Carlo.
Cheers to Sarge

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Dogs are amazing. Mine is a family member, fully. Condolences.

May this oft-quoted line by Will Rogers help:

“If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went.”

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RIP Sarge. Sorry for your loss Carlo.

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Condolences Carlo. So sorry Sarge's glorious 14 year run with you had to end. How lucky you both have been! As hard as it is to put down our four-legged companions when the time comes, they count on us to do the right thing to the very end. My 12 year old brindle Mastiff mix Annie is recovering from knee surgery, and I know her day will come sooner than later. I'll shed tears, but know she's counting on me. It's sad that dogs' and cats' lives are so much shorter than ours, but they sure do pack a lot into their time with us. Onward

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sorry for your loss man, it's tough to lose a bosom buddy, you had a good run, revel in the memories. Time will heal all wounds.

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....always happy to see you, whether you've been gone for ten minutes or days.
There's a pic of my two.
Cats are ok too. They have more of an attitude imo.

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I have had pets (dogs & cats) since 1965. It occurred to me years ago, that when I sign up to take a new animal (I call them my children, as I have no human children), we are implicitly signing up for an unknown time period of joy, and also, some days of grief & sadness. To me, this is still a good deal, but it makes the heartbreak no less painful or intense. I don't ever want to live without the unconditional love of a cat or dog, so I go in knowing the deal. I believe my life is always better with the love of a quadruped.

So, to Carlo, VGUY and everyone else who has lost a "child" recently, you have my total empathy and sympathy.
Carlo, as long as you remember Sarge, he's never really totally gone.
My 2 are 13 (redhead) and 7 (tuxedo) so 1 may go soon or not, but one piece of advice that was given to me was: "always allow 6 months to grieve before getting a new one".
By the way, I have not always taken this advice, but it does make sense to me.

"Life Is Hard"-M. Scott Peck
"But so, so worth it"-Mark B. Smith

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Very sorry to hear about your loss. Dogs are arguably one of the greatest gifts given to humankind. Their loyalty and love is unwavering. Hang in there.

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