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December 10, 2022 - 9:42am

#481

hendrixfreak

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We have a winner!!

And the trophy goes to Oroborous for "fungal foxtrot" -- my gawd man, you should be a writer. Oh wait...

Another story: Roy Buchanan. We first caught Roy at Carnegie Hall in spring '74 and probably caught him a dozen times across that year into fall, most often in small theaters and clubs. (See: Roy Buchanan at Town Hall 1974...) At many shows, we had purchased "seats" and we sat in them -- for about the first 15 minutes. Then a half-dozen of us would emerge from our sometimes scattered seat assignments and basically make our way to the lip of the stage. It's not a Dead show and most folks remained seated while we formed a small cluster in front of Roy. He would smile to himself. His drummer later told me that the band referred to us as "Buchanan's rabbits," because we were always "popping up" at the lip of the stage. To this day, I've got more hearing damage from Roy's Tele and Twin Reverb (maybe 75 shows, 1974-1986) than from a roughly equal number of key GD shows (1972-1992). (Key shows: RFK '72, Watkins Glen '73, Capitol Theater/Passaic '76, Englishtown '77, Red Rocks '78 and every single subsequent GD Rocks show.) Not braggin', just happy lookin' back.

One such event featured a double bill of Roy and Boz Scaggs w/Les Dudek on slide. We were in the first 10 rows and it was so loud, no need to get closer! After both bands played, Boz, Les and Roy jammed at supersonic volumes...

Not to mention the many times we spent the day on the east stairs at the Rocks, then dashed in to actually cop front row (one behind the actual front row, reserved for handicapped) and at one ABB show realized that we had WAY better seats than the fairly large contingent onstage in the wings.

Basically, my life has been one dash for the front or a judicious stance near the soundboard when I wasn't working, going to school, chasing tail or poking around the backcountry. I'm semi-retired from the big shows and, looking back, pretty effin' happy with the way I misspent my youth.
December 10, 2022 - 8:20am

#482

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

Up Front when it was cool

The first six or seven years we’d go up front any chance we could if it was GA and we got there early enough.
Half the fun was hanging out with the heads all afternoon waiting for the chance for the mad dash to the front.
We’re talking small Auds we’re up front you were often less than 10’ away from them and the stages were often only 4 or 5’ high, very intimate! And the stage sound was amazing.

Speaking of the dash: At the 7/1/92 show that we worked production, we were on the stage when they opened the gates and it was wild watching the throng come swarming over the hill and down toward the stage at Buckeye as Healy blasted the Horse race Trumpet Fanfare lol. Like some kind of psychedelic scene from Braveheart!

It could be physically brutal and grueling though, especially if you weren’t in the very front row on the rail, where you could sorta lean and push back against the throng. Better ventilation too. Basically, it was on the wall or nothing, with the wall being only about 4’ high.
If you knew what you were doing, and the circumstances were right though, there was nothing like it, but nothing comes for free so it was often a long grueling day, but we were young, prepared and it didn’t really phase us, especially once we got electric!
So early on it was all about up front. Yes the vocals weren’t as prominent but you got the golden pure unfiltered sound of their amps/speakers, and in 83 when they started using the Meyers stuff full time they’d put small monitors on the stage in a half circle pointing out to help fill in the vocals better.

But besides the sound it was like going to school to be able to see how they played things and to check out all that marvelous gear out up close! “Oh, Finger Ease, that’s the stuff Bobs always spraying on his axe”, like going to school!

Perhaps the best part was the eye contact. If you were really paying attention you could see them communicating non verbally and they’d pick up on if you weren’t just some stoned civilian, but could tell if you were really catching all the little things they were doing. It was like you were in the band and if they picked up on you, they’d watch you and see if you caught little things they’d toss about. They seemed to really dig folks who could properly pay attention to all this, especially if they made a mistake!
I can still picture any of them throwing some musical little tid bit out there, and watch your reaction, and then smiling because they knew you caught it, PRICELESS!
It was big fun to joke around between songs with them too. We used to pick on Bob about songs and Phil especially always had a good time with that!
Sigh, those were the daze!
BUT!!! learning the fungal foxtrot in front of the SB was pretty damn sweet too lol.
And aw those awesome summer nights outside with a big ole moon during a hot Terrapin…
Sigh, yep, those were the daze my friends, we thought they’d never end…
December 10, 2022 - 7:22am

#483

hendrixfreak

Joined:
February 26, 2014

Getting close...

So apart from Watkins Glen we had partaken of the GD/ABB gathering at RFK earlier that summer, the first day. The GD went on first, I think because Jer had an Old & In the Way show in Boston that night -- that's what we heard. (He 'coptered from DC to Boston with Peter Rowan, according to hearsay.

So a good friend who had not eaten the blotter said, "Let's go up front." Plenty of room to manuever that day. We got real close -- definitely whites of their eyes -- and several things unfolded, no longer sure the sequence. First, some Deadheads being assholes, a few miscreants were tossing fireworks around. Some genius lobs an M-80 onto the stage and it lands at Jer's feet. He used to do a little shuffle when he was jamming and, without skipping a beat, he kicks the M-80 (prior to explosion) back into the crowd with one smooth movement. When they started He's Gone, the crowd moans and boos -- the feral animals on acid syndrome. But Garcia carries it off and I think they closed the set with China-Rider. (Just looked at the Setlist Program, and that's backwards -- set closer with China-Rider, 2nd set opener He's Gone.) During China Cat I get acid-confusion. Bobby is playing a Gibson SG (I believe) and Phil is playing a big brown hollow body, but in my youth and ignorance I always associated the solid body with bass and the hollow body with a Gibson guitar -- so I'm like, wait, which one's Bobby and which one's Phil?? (I knew from photos who was who, but go figure in that "special moment"...) I said nothing, but I think my buddy realized he was leading a potential casualty around and we retreated. Also, when you're 15, although tall, you are rail thin and still getting initiated, so we did not make a habit of pressing forward. It was a foray only.

In 1976, during their theater tour, I had something like 7th row center, 3,000 people, I could the band quite well right in front of me and discovered for the first time the buzz of the amps in the back line. I was much closer in May '73 for Old & In the Way: 3rd row, audience left, right by Jer and his banjo.

If that's not a great way to grow up, I don't know what is.
December 10, 2022 - 7:19am

#484

1stshow70878

Joined:
September 11, 2014

About 20 rows up at red rocks

Is just exactly perfect. My first show 7th row middle was too close for the best sound. Got there early as HF suggested and had our pick. But it was so loud I had to sit some just to give my ears some relief. Next two times there we figured out, as Vguy notes, the balance and full bass effect was better about 20th row middle. A few rows in front the tapers section and soundboard (duh, that's why they put it there). For Brent's RR debut in '79 we got back closer to 12th row as we wanted to see the new guy and the sound was pretty darn good and it seemed the crew had figured out the Red Rocks by that third visit and how to bounce Phil off them. All my other shows were pitifully far back or to the side with McNichols '79 the worst sound of all, upper deck right side and an echo chamber. The Denver Coliseum, where I saw a few other bands, had terrible acoustics. College halls that were designed for good acoustics like C.U. Boulder's were ideal. Pin drop perfect for the Chick Corea/Gary Burton show. You could visually see the notes, no wait, maybe that was the shrooms.
Cheers
December 10, 2022 - 7:17am

#485

dmcvt

Joined:
April 4, 2013

close up Newcastle May 1970

Probably late to the party on this, just discovered on utube , lengthy (almost two hours) coverage of the Dead's May 1970 trip to England, rough cuts, casual interviews, a few tedious moments, loaded with inside looks and about 35 minutes of concert footage from 5/24: "Grateful Dead England 1970 (The Lost Film)"
December 10, 2022 - 4:22am

#486

daverock

Joined:
September 1, 2014

Seeing the whites of their eyes

As I remember it, it was quite easy to walk up quite close to the front of the stage when the Dead played at the Rainbow, London, in October 1981. It was standing room only down there.
I was even closer the first night on the October 1990 run at Wembley. Brilliant! Seeing people you have read about and listened to so much, for so long, at such close quarters. Prior to this night it was hard to believe that they actually existed. Nobody I knew had ever seen them, or even heard of them. Like living in a world of your own. Which, given the alternative, might not be a bad thing.
The last night I was up the balcony to the right, and that wasn't as good. I'll never know what was me - I was high as a kite - and what was really happening. The people around me appeared to be dancing and cheering before the band came on. It was like they could hear something I couldn't. When the band did come on, the only instrument I could clearly hear was Bruce's piano. I went bombing downstairs to try and get in to the stalls, but was easily ejected and went back to my seat. The balance improved during the show - but it was an odd sound. And as I have said before, drums and space was incredible.
December 9, 2022 - 8:59pm

#487

Vguy72

Joined:
June 29, 2007

Being really close at the Dead....

....only twice. Vegas '91 and Portland '95. Sound sucks up there anyways.
December 9, 2022 - 7:19pm

#488

Angry Jack Straw

Joined:
October 2, 2012

Getting up front

Was fairly easy early on. Then it became a headache.

Back in 93 or 94 we decided to go to the Spring shows on Long Island. You were still able to call in for tickets back then and somehow I got right through. To the customer service rep - I need tickets for Thursday and Friday, but purchase Friday first because that will sell out quickly. Of course when she reads the first order back it is for Thursday. Annoyed, but I got 6th row. By the time she put in the Friday order, we got the farthest section back in the upper deck. That was the last time we got up real close. Of course as any seasoned head would do, we brought our Thursday stubs to the Friday show. The usher gladly showed us to our seats right up front soon after the lights went down.
December 9, 2022 - 2:14pm

#489

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

Up Front

Pretty much gave that up around 85-86. Combo of no more GA, getting a little older, and most of all…discovered the Lysergic shuffle which requires proper floor space lol
December 9, 2022 - 2:06pm

#490

Vguy72

Joined:
June 29, 2007

Phish fans....

....yup. They have changed a lot since I first saw them in 1994. People up front on the floor tend to get very territorial. Throw down huge tarps and will say they are "holding spots for their friends" and will get hostile sometimes. A lot of times I never see their so-called friends ever show up. Sad really. I don't go up front anymore.

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Another trusty companion off to great doggie park beyond.
So sorry for your loss Carlo.
Whenever I start missing my last dog, I put on David Bromebergs version of Mr Bojangles “after 20 years he still grieves”
Hang in there and be grateful for all the good times y’all had and all the memories you’ll always have!

Thank you! I have spoken…

Thank you! I have spoken with a couple of different people at customer service. ... no luck there. CD replacements are not available. I've decided to return it and am waiting for instructions on how to do so. ... disappointed though, b/c it's a show that I like and was looking for a good copy. Current options are (1) return it for a full refund, or (2) keep the damaged item at 25% off the price. Adding a third option might be an acceptable solution ... (3) keep the damaged item at a reduced price and receive digital downloads for the missing tracks. The reduced price could even be determined by the amount of damage. I have a damaged digipak and two damaged CDs (so far). As I said, I haven't listened to CD2 yet. Oh, well!

Patrick

Please send me a PM with the details. I can't promise a thing but I'll see what I can find out and get the Doc on the case.

God bless Ye, Marye

Y'all be cool.

Nice anniversary show

I happened upon a single disc on my collection of 11 15 72

A few tunes then a swell PITB that cuts partway through. ouch.

So listening to full show on archive. Nice.

And it's got a Cumberland.

Fall 72

Yummy

Someone here mentioned buying Taylor Swift tickets....

....so I heard this snippet of a song the other day on Instagram or something. I thought, "that's pretty catchy".
Turns out it was Swift's Anti-Hero song.
Pretty damn good and I love the video.
One can indeed be ones worst enemy.
I've never really listened to her before to be honest. Will be checking some more of her out.

I cite a Fall 72 show

with a Cumberland

and Vguy talks up Taylor Swift

oh Vguy, why.........

Carlo

Really sorry to learn about Sarge, Carlo.
May he enjoy the forever leashless runs through the lush meadow in the sky.

Be Well,
Sixtus

Good news...

Dave's Picks 44 safely arrived at my house in the Netherlands today, fortunately without attracting the attention of the customs on the way. 👍🏻

Carlo

Sorry for your loss! RIP Sarge.

Taylor Swift? Weyes Blood!

Go to the utoobs, search for Weyes Blood Andromeda; amazing songwriter/performer, with very catchy and moody tunes. Check it out!

Taylor Swift tickets broke Ticketmaster....

....good. Eff them anyways.

I fully understand, Vguy.........

You're intrigued by Taylor Swift and looking forward to "checking some more of her out."

Me too, bro. ALL of her.... as long as there's no music involved!

And yeah, to quote Dylan: "If I had wings, and I could fly, I know where I would go..." I'd go right straight to wherever my collie-huskie, Genaro, went, and hope to hang with my 20-year-old tuxedo cat, Zoe, too.

Man oh man, if only............

Genaro, HF?

Like Don Genaro (Genaro Flores) in Castaneda's works?
Maybe we can visit Ixtlan closer to our true state of being.
But a man of knowledge is a changed being and might not be able to go back home again.
I have a Zooey dog I can only visit in dreams as well. And my wife had a tuxedo cat. Fun coincidences.
Cheers
Dead on tap today: Dick's 25, May 10-11, 1978

Dr. Rhino help?

Hey, Folks, I never received Dave's 44, and I'm wondering if I've exhausted all options for relief! Apparently USPS forwarded it -- don't know where or why, though I've filed a missing mail report. But I suspect it was because the address on the shipping notice was incomplete (it was correct on the order). So I've emailed the customer service address on my order, and I've also emailed drrhino AT rhino.com. Have not heard from either. I know that people here have had good luck with Dr. Rhino. Am I using the right contact? Other suggestions for getting this show delivered? Thank you! Not fading away!

campaignshoutin, Carlo

campaign, scroll down a few entries, find Marye and send her a PM. She has near magical powers to facilitate attention to most of these matters, sort of our latter day fairy godmother to use an antiquated term. Carlo, my sympathies on your loss. Loved the animals around me from a very early age, took care of other peoples pets long term if asked. No longer are domesticated types in my life and miss that, though being close to wilderness, frequent direct experience with wildlife. There is a particularly close bond with dogs, since we have been breeding them for thousands of years to work with us. Freaking chipmunks munch all the pea sprout, have to chase deer and bear off the lawn, please don't eat the flowers. OK, love some more than others, there is nothing like a beloved unconditional companion like that

Thanks!

Thanks, DMCVT. I sent Marye a PM. Fingers crossed. Ears a-awaitin' for this show! (And Marye, if you're reading this, too, thanks for any advice!)

VGuy Identified As Taylor’s “New Guy”

VGuy - Like you, I knew none of Taylor Swift’s music, just knew she was pretty easy on the eyes, figured she is just another of the singers the ladies love. The wife and I were watching SNL and she was the musical guest, and she did this really long song, with some video accompaniment. My wife asked after what did I think (she loved it), and I told her truthfully, not too bad. I still have never heard another song by her, but I did hear she busted TicketBastard with demand, so props to her. That alone made me a “Swifty”!!

Congress

Is now looking at Ticketmaster for anti-trust monopoly issues.
Ms. Swift brought that home to them when their kids were were crying their eyes out when the site crashed.
Cheers

Thanks everyone

Thanks everyone for the kind words for Sarge, and I. Lots of dogs, and cats over the past year or so have left us deadheads. I believe Sarge, and all the other pets on this site are treated with sadness for the whole day like Garcia was mourned, but the next day would be a happy celebration for all the Jerrys', sarges' and all the other dogs and cats. They all would have wanted it that way, for us humans. Thanks again, guys.

Yes, 1stShow, Castaneda's Genaro...

That dog (1978-1990) was freakin' smart. Large vocabulary and a provocateur for good times. He was vocal and brave and funny. And he was born in my backyard weeks before the GD's first shows at Red Rocks in July '78. He was still tiny when we spent those post-heavy-trip days getting ourselves put back together. One of the keys to his "hero dog" status is that I was 20 when he was born and 32 when he passed prematurely -- the best years of our lives, other than right freakin' NOW.

I'd get another dog, but it's only been 32 years since he passed, so still way too soon.

Now that my beloved cat is gone, and Dad too, I'm taking the opportunity to not be a caretaker/giant Mommy/Daddy for a while. I think that'll last a few years. Then I might take on one more round of cat & dog, if I feel I can weather the loss -- or that they could, if I cacked off.

And yet I still think I hear small footsteps and damn if it ain't quiet and a bit lonely here these days. But with a little help from my friends -- a few guitars and uncountable CD collection -- I believe I'll make it. Glass half full!

Grateful for the devoted company of animals, but sometimes it just plain hurts.

Ticketbastard, etc

Didn’t Congress look into that years ago and do nothing?
The whole reseller thing is a scam.

Taylor needs to learn to play multiple nights in each city. The stage is already set up to be used a second and even third night. She needs to make sure that the Swifty’s get their fix.
Recall that Taylor and Mayer dated prior to Mayer being in D&C. Maybe after D&C they can get back together and make a band.

Condolences to all the pet owners. Seems that a lot have passed this year.
Dogs are great, I don’t really like cats. Chipmunks, squirrels, rabbits, groundhogs, etc suck. Always tearing up my garden.

Daves Pics 44 not working in any way ...

none of the tracking or "order status" functions do anything for me.. i have no idea whether this order exist in any way ..
hard to know what to say ... contacted the store they said they resubmitted my order... by making and entirely new order looks like... and they said i would get an email when it ships .. its been another week and no info .. and still nothing seems to work .. including logging in to this site.. had to create yet another password sequence.. I also ordered the subscription for next year... cant be sure any of it will work then either.. not really sure if i should bother trying anything else.. i dont really understand how this can happen .. computers as supposed to make all of this easier.. but doesnt seem to .. everything seems to get lost.. also seems like i cant even reply to anybody else comments.. only post new ones..

Ohmygawsh the TS beast! She is a banshee! Begone!

Don't you know, IceCream, that she and JM are "never ever ever ever ever ever ever getting back together!"?

Look that up in your Funk N Wagnalls nyuk nyuk

PS Cats are awesome. Give em a chance

"That cat's something I can't explain"

Shipping blues

I woke up dis mohnin'

WHERES MY FREAKIN DAVES?

I am glad I have never had an issue (knock hemp)

Why do these things happen???

"Problem? Call...

86753098675309
86753098675309
86753098675309"

We Just Saw Artemus (Orion)

Stargazing bare eyed after sunset.
Low orbit satellite winked out on us.
Catching setting sun.
Slingshot to the moon. Far out man
Cheers

10 30 72

First set
Lots of barking from the audience
At one point Bobby says "Eat it"
Lol

Proudfoot / Lucifer sam

"Lucifer sam, Siam cat. Always sitting bye your side, always by your side.......That cat's something I can't explain."

Be a hip cat

Be a ship's cat

Gotta hear that tune right now

I’ve got mine

#1892 has just been pushed through my door by the Royal Mail.

@Carlo13

So sorry to hear of Sarge's passing...we are allowed what seems like a short sliver of time (with all the time in the world) to have these glorious creatures be with us and leave their imprint on our soul....

Happy Anniversary...

To us and Mr. Jinks & Violet...this week marks the 13th Anniversary of them agreeing to look after us....

Still no Dave's 44

Anyone else in the US in the same boat?

New Dylan Bootleg

A new chapter in Dylan’s bootleg series coming in January:
Fragments – Time Out of Mind Sessions (1996-1997): The Bootleg Series Vol.17

Happy Anniversary to Dave's 5 & 11...

....Pauley Pavilion and Wichita. Pauley is still in my top 3 Dave's.
Already tired of Xmas music at work.

OK Dave

just release all the 1966 GD in the vault. just throw it all into a box and release it.

30 Days' inclusion of Mindbender has me jonesin' big time for that stuff.

MAWR MAWR MAWR!!!

11/17 78

Just read an interesting snippet about a short acoustic set in the afternoon of 11/17/78 (44 years ago folks!) at Loyola College before a full electric set at the Uptown Theater in Chicago. Sounds interesting. It featured just Bobby, Jerry, Phil and Mickey. A precursor of the acoustic sets two years later I guess.

Lebow

I am in the same boat. Still no DaP44 for me. Seems to be more of an issue with this release than in the past.

Vguy - I have posted multiple times that DaP5 is the best release of the entire run. Just outstanding stuff. DaP43 is right up there though.

Happy Thanksgiving to everyone. Xmas decorations should not be displayed or music played until the Friday after turkey day. Just my own personal opinion.

11/17 Pauley Pavilion

Also one of my favorite Dave's Picks.. this and 43, top shelf GD.

and now

Pete Rose: raw deal.

ban from baseball for life upheld. sqreuw that. One of the greatest players ever.

Dylan Bootleg #17

For those of you who like vinyl I notice that there is a 10LP version of the deluxe set which appears to be only available from bobdylandotcom
The Rolling Stones are cashing in again releasing a limited edition vinyl box of 16 mono albums.

DaP 3 Pt Deux

I think we might have a DaP 3 issue. Does anyone else remember that? Hundreds (thousands) of copies just disappeared off the face of the earth. An unsolved mystery to this day, postman really liked disc golf maybe. I eventually did get a copy, but it wasn't numbered, just says "Promo copy" which is fine, but weak should you ever be fool enough to sell your copy I suppose.

PT Barnum. acoustic set 1978

PT Barnum , that acoustic set from 1978 has been released, I believe it is on the extended Version of .
Reckoning. The Dead do a killer version of Tom Dooley on there. I believe this to be the case, hopefully someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

Last 5

#1. Jimmy Reed the Vee Jay Years box set #2. Charlie Musslewhite, Takin My Time Arhoolie Records #3 Muddy Waters, Best of Muddy Waters Chess Records, #4Little Walter, Hate To See You Go, Chess Records, #5 Best of Little Walter, Chess Records

Nov 73

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say I like the Road Trips from 11/21 even more than Dave's 5. And that Road Trips came with choice filler from 11/20 and a bonus disc from 12/6. Yessiree Bob.

People diss the series, but it had some killers. (Although they were terribly packaged.)

Reckoning

The list below is taken from Wikipedia, apologies for the poor formatting. This is the bonus material on the Rhino reissue. Two tracks from the 78 show

No. Title Writer(s) Recording date and venue Length
1. "To Lay Me Down" (Studio Rehearsal)
Garcia Hunter
09/14/80 Club Front 9:12
2. "Iko Iko" James "Sugar Boy" Crawford, Barbara Anne Hawkins, Rosa Lee Hawkins, Joan Johnson 10/07/80 Warfield Theatre 4:23
3. "Heaven Help the Fool" (instrumental version)
Weir Barlow
10/25/80 Radio City Music Hall 6:18
4. "El Paso" Marty Robbins 10/13/80 Warfield Theatre 4:41
5. "Sage & Spirit" Weir 10/31/80 Radio City Music Hall 3:14
6. "Little Sadie" Trad. arr. Grateful Dead 10/31/80 Radio City Music Hall 2:45
7. "It Must Have Been the Roses" (Alternate Live Version) Hunter 10/23/80 Radio City Music Hall 7:01
8. "Dark Hollow" (Alternate Live Version) Trad. arr. Grateful Dead 10/23/80 Radio City Music Hall 4:30
9. "Jack-A-Roe" (Alternate Live Version) Trad. arr. Grateful Dead 10/23/80 Radio City Music Hall 5:08
10. "Cassidy" (Alternate Live Version)
Weir Barlow
10/23/80 Radio City Music Hall 5:06
11. "China Doll" (Alternate Live Version)
Garcia Hunter
10/23/80 Radio City Music Hall 5:52
12. "Monkey and the Engineer" (Alternate Live Version) Fuller 10/23/80 Radio City Music Hall 2:37
13. "Oh Babe It Ain't No Lie" (Alternate Live Version) Cotten 10/23/80 Radio City Music Hall 7:13
14. "Ripple" (Alternate Live Version)
Garcia Hunter
10/23/80 Radio City Music Hall 4:37
15. "Tom Dooley" Trad. arr. Grateful Dead 11/17/78 Rambler Room 3:33
16. "Deep Elem Blues" (Alternate Live Version) Trad. arr. Grateful Dead 11/17/78 Rambler Room 3:42

Tickets to see Taylor Swift sold so swiftly....

....that the general public never had a chance to buy them. Remaining sales are cancelled.
Ticketmaster had already sold more than 2 million of them in their stupid "pre-sale" scam and even they were snubbed. Resellers are already asking 20K or more. What a racket. One of the worst companies on the planet.

Dave's Picks 11/17/73 * Road Trips '73 * Pete Rose

Jimbo, your comment on DaP 5 got me to thinking - this is one of my favorite releases that I rarely listen to. I don't know why.

Lebowski99 - Road Trips '73 gets me sometimes with the buzzing in places - my problem for listening on headphones, but it is strong with the Force. I like how PITB Part 2 is practically a Dark Star segment (even part 3 could be the Space section). Set list is fantastic, although I think it was one Beer Barrel Polka from sheer perfection.

Agree on Pete Rose. Ban him from the commentator's booth so he can't put people off with stories about "cock-high fast balls", but put him the Hall. The dude never bet against the Reds, which I think is a hinging factor on how I feel about his exclusion. I'm 20 minutes outside of Philly, so I grew up watching him, Lefty, and Schmitty lead them to World Series victory, so yeah, I've seen him play a lot more than most. I was also at a game in '81 or '82 on the first base line, leaning over the fence trying to get a foul ball rolling in our direction. Some big a*** hole ran up behind me as we were next to the steps. I was only 9 or 10 and precariously teetering over the fence trying to get this ball, and he knocked me right onto the field on my face. Really rung my bell and scraped up my face on the rough surface (Vet stadium had astroturf on the field, but the warning track and surrounding area was this abrasive non-slip rubber composite). My mom had taken me to the game and couldn't reach me. Pete was already running over and helped me back over the fence. Asked if I was alright, said he saw the whole thing and had the catcher (who I think was still Bob Boone) throw him a ball to give me. Quite a week after that. But the way I see it he's paid his penance, especially when players like Bonds are stealing records from Hank Aaron and getting away with it.

Keithfan

Classy move from ol' PR

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20K for a ticket to anyone....
No.
Fookin'.
Way.

Tie Ticketmaster down with heavy stones and throw it into the river. Robber Barons R' Us.

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