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  • Crow Told Me
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    '72, Come Shine or Rain

    So, following up the excellent and dud-free 2022 sub series, we're starting off 2023 with 2 shows from '77 and then 4 discs from fall '72? Yes, please.

    Announcing releases from '77 and '72 certainly seems like a good way to drive up subscription sales. You guys are a lot more knowledgeable than I am about what's good and still in the vault from those periods, but all I can say is I've never heard a "bad" show from either year.

    Box sets? I have no idea how or if what's issued on the DaP series impacts their thinking about possible boxes. But I sure like some of the suggestions I'm hearing. A summer '73 box? Or a '60s set? Just take all my money, now.

    Last five:
    King Crimson: The Great Deceiver
    Blind Willie McTell: Death Cell Blues
    Neil Young: Noise & Flowers
    Jefferson Airplane: After Bathing at Baxter's
    John McLaughlin: Extrapolation

  • hendrixfreak
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    Well, Senor Oro, I did hear Dave once say....

    that a fall '72 box was "inevitable" -- I believe that's the word he used. And, yes, I leapt to the bait like a trout to the fly! Dave said that maybe 4-5 years ago and, knowing Dave as well as I do (I don't know the guy at all), he says all kinds of things but that doesn't mean they're gonna happen. So, a mere 4-5 hours of sacred Sept '72 will just have to suffice until such time as "They" decide on a fall '72 box.

    So, what's the speculation or wish list for the coming year's box? "They" gotta do a Wake of the Flood 50th, right? Is the bonus show with that all the '73 they're gonna muster in 2023? Perhaps.

    That is all.

  • daverock
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    Fall 1972 good. Bonus disc bad.

    Great that another show from this timespan is being released. I would get anything from this era without hesitating. Pity it's coming out under the Dave's Picks banner though, with a bonus disc that you can only buy if you subscribe. Needless to say, I would love to get the bonus disc, but I wouldn't buy the two October 77 shows if I had the choice, and not knowing what is in the pipeline, I can't be sure number 47 and 48 would be to my liking, either. So I guess I have to decide if it's worth subscribing and getting shows I don't want, for the one bonus disc I do. I don't like this buy one, get one free approach at all.

    I know I could subscribe and then sell the ones I don't want online - but I have never sold anything this way, and can't really be bothered looking into how you do it.

  • Oroborous
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    Well said Keithfan!

    I don’t know this show but I’ve NEVER heard anyone discuss it.
    I mean we have some serious fall 72 nuts here (yeah, I’m looking at you Mr PC), and out of all the shows folks discuss I’ve never heard a word about it?
    So that and no Dark Star has me worried that once again he’s picked a good city and street, but gone to the wrong house! I’m sure I’ll dig it, I always do, but with no Dark Star etc Im not sure how much rotation it’ll get?
    First world whining to be sure lol

    Good stories DMCVT, keep ‘em coming por favor!

  • KeithFan2112
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    Welcome 1972

    Let me take your coat for you, welcome, welcome. We haven't seen the likes of you since the St. Louis box set, and even that wasn't enough.

    Any '72 is great '72. Still, I wondered why he chose the Palladium show from the 9th as opposed to the next night w/Dark Star. The Dark Star fanatic in me always wants the Dark Star show, and Dave certainly likes a good Dark Star. I have a solid SBD from the 10th. So I checked out archive.org and learned David Crosby was a guest on the 10th. I have a feeling that played a lrole in the release decision. First world issues.

    I'm usually not too keen when they include duplicate songs on the Bonus Disc, but I would be happy with both Bird Songs from the two incomplete shows, 9/3 & 9/19. That would give us three 1972 Bird Songs in one release. YES. I am o-freaking-kay with that. They were playing the most killer Bird Songs in this timeframe. It would certainly make up for 4 discs of 1972 and no Dark Star.

  • hendrixfreak
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    Elated and dejected

    Sept '72 is as good as it gets without the grease, so this will be a huge release.

    However, the release of portions of my first show (9-19-72) confirms that they've given up the search for the missing reel and I have to surmise that the OSF now knows the contents of the banana boxes and the missing 9-19-72 reel is not there.

    Oh well, guess I'll just have to enjoy four hours of Sept '72 and the several hundred other shows I have in pristine sound quality............... you win some, you lose some. Though a portion of my first show is hardly losing.

    P.S. Wonder what this selection means for the year's box set? Not gonna be fall '72. So, maybe a 50th Summer '73? Plenty of material, between entire barn-burning shows and uneven though iconic shows (Watkins Glen main performance).

  • Gratefulhan
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    46 is 72

    Yep, I just saw my email from Dead.net. DaP 46 looks great. I think several of you were calling for a fall 1972 show so there it is . I have not heard 9/9/72 so I am going to hold off until I get my copy in the mail. It seems like 9/19/72 only has audience sources in circulation (I could be wrong) so that will be nice to get some snippets from that show. We already got the big jam form 9/3/72 so bonus disc will round out some of that.

    At this point for me, I am open to any show that is released from any era. However, I will not lie about the fact that I am extra excited for DaP 45 & 46 as 1977 and 1972 are my favorite years of the GD. Maybe number 47 will be an 85 show (or two). That would hit the sweet spot for me. However it doesn't really matter anyway.

    Once again, thank you Dave L and crew!

  • 1stshow70878
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    That may drive subscription sales

    Bonus disc some 9-3-72 Boulder and some 9-19-72 Jersey City
    Have ye some!
    Cheers

  • perithecat
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    Daves 46

    Stop press its 09/09/72 👍🏻

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    Acid test - Soft Machine

    One of the earliest excerpts of 1966 I have heard/seen is the dvd of the Acid Test from 1/8/66. Plenty of live Dead, and a bit of hickey between Pigpen and the Pranksters - "Hey man, stop yo babbling and fix these microphones". Really good sound quality - if it's on youtube, definitely worth checking out. It would be a great addition if this film, and any others like it, could be included in a box of early Dead.

    Those Soft Machine shows with the Mark Boyle light show circa 1968 are legendary in their own right. Together with Pink Floyd, Soft Machine seem to have been one of the main live bands of early British psych. Never really given due credit.

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Your first show was my brothers first show, and it should be released.

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Love the new artwork on the cover for DaP 45.
Much better than cartoonish skeletons.
Double dose of '77 is OK by me.
Cheers

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43 years ago today, I was up in Oakland to see the Good old Grateful Dead, put on a great show. I imagine my good old buddy Cousins was there, along with alot of other fine folks on this forum. It was a benefit show for Cambodian Refugees and the Dead played one great set. The Beach Boys played with their full original band, Santana & John Cipolllina sat in with the Dead, and Jefferson Starship and Joan Baez also performed. Garcia sang " Shake the hand, that shook the hand, of P.T. Barnum, and the Shah of Iran". Fun times.

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Confession: aside from a '68 tape that inexplicably landed in my inbox fairly recently, I don't listen much outside the official releases and am content to listen to official Vault releases as they come out. So I have not heard 1 & 2 October '77 from Portland. But as we all know, that fall tour has some ferocious shows and I anticipate that two (relatively) short shows in one 4-CD release will fall into that pattern. '77 keeps on giving and I've never tried to quantify what we've got vs. what was played, or guess at what might be left in the Vault (though I suspect plenty) from that stellar year.

So, looking forward to getting this one in about a week or so. And then ...... (drum roll please) 4 CDs from fall '72, including the fragment from my first show.

Meanwhile, gotta twist a few. I've got tons of Dylan, ABB, and blues to enjoy. To quote the sages who dwell here: Music is the best. To which I'll add: life is inconceivable without music.

Yes, Happy Birthday and also, Holly Bowling. I was not familiar with her music, such a blind spot. A friend sent the linq to her seaside concert: The Wilderness Sessions, Casco Bay, ME 10.22.20 on utu be. Wonderful setting, the Dead's music as launch point, with dog. Not distracted by sea birds.... Probably many of you know her beautiful music in a beautiful place. Came to know Casco Bay fifty some years ago, fell in love there, sailing, fishing, hiking along the coast, exploring the islands.

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Yes Billy, I was there indeed standing right of the soundboard; cheap tickets, considering the lineup, and not a sold out show if I recall, a lot of space on the floor. It was fun going to a show so soon after the of the 5-day Oakland run, talk about being spoiled in the Bay Area. Wasn't it the show where Jerry substituted PT Barnum for "the Shah of Iran"? 1980 was the year I saw the most shows, thanks in no small part to the Warfield run.
More rain the next 4 days here in Sacramento, it's getting old! Wife got me rubber boots so I can navigate the backyard and work our pump. Staying away from Wake of the Flood LP("And little change, the wind and rain" No thank you, Bob!)
Happy birthday Scott! Thanks again for turning me on to so many tapes.

You are going to love it Hendrixfreak. The return of Casey Jones to open the show, one of my favorite versions and Dupree's! Quite a few highlights. Looking forward to the full Norman of this Betty and 10/1/77.

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Yeah, I have two Trouble cd's, Manic Frustration from 1992 and another one just called, Trouble. It says 2009 but I think that's a reissue? I could Google it but I'm lazy.

Mr. White and Come Touch the Sky are pretty cool hard rock tunes. I saw the singer passed just a couple of years ago. Mr. White is a funny fuckin' song about blow, which we used to call "ripper" and "gagger." I'll save coke stories for another time but I'll bet this bunch has got a few. ;-p

So many bands like Trouble - good enough to light up a bar or small club and, back in the day, get a record deal, but never actually touch the sky. Shit, Dr. Hook never did make the cover of Rolling Stone did they?

Still in full on Jeff Beck mode. Normally I am cycling through Zeppelin, the Beatles, the Stones, Aerosmith, the Dead (of course), the Doors, Pink Floyd, Van Halen, and lots of jazz and blues pretty damn regularly. Beck has a certain weight about him now that he's gone, but like when Mark Lanegan left us, I realize their spirit will always be alive, always 25 years old and healthy and strong. Like Jer.

God bless everyone. Carpe Diem.

\m/

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I'm going back listening to all my Jeff Beck recordings, too. Incredible range of music, and it occurs to me that even when he is playing a style of music I don't normally like, the way he plays it lifts it up. I normally prefer it when guitarists - any musician for that matter - serve the music and not the other way round. With Jeff Beck, he seems a bit as though he was the other way round - the music seems more like a platform for him to take off from. Possibly the only guitarist I like who did that. He didn't do that all the time - that Les Paul Tribute concert isn't like that- but he did it often enough for it to be noticeable.
A great one I played last night was "Who Else!" from 1999.

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I was driving yesterday with my wife and kids, so we ended up doing round-robin song selection (uggh - sometimes you just have to compromise :D My selection was the Jeff Beck / Rod Stewart version of People Get Ready. I was 13 when it came it out, and it was a staple on the Philadelphia airwaves. Beck's playing is perfect (great tone and creativity in his playing). My wife fiddled around with Pandora and came up with the Jeff only version (which I guess he recorded sometime later). I said no, if I get one pick it has to be the '85 version with Rod singing. I hadn't heard it in 3 or 4 years, so it was a great listening experience. Aside from a few Yardbirds tunes, I don't really know Jeff Beck's work. If anyone has song recommendations, I'd like to compile a dozen or so to see if it all grabs me. Did he sing at all?

Happy belated B-day Nitecat - I am behind in the message boards.

Yeah, life is inconceivable w/out music. It takes us to a unique place. I think of it with a perspective Robert Hunter said about his lyrics, when a fan once asked him the meaning of a song; he tried to answer, but ultimately said something to the effect of (paraphrasing here), "I hope that helps, but honestly, if I could explain it in plain words I wouldn't have to write a song." I hadn't though of it that way before. Lyrics as non-linear form of expression. I think it's the same with music - you feel an intense connection that can't be adequately explained in plain language.

Well okie dokie, that's about as philosophical as I'm going today. I hope everyone is well.

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Here are my recommendations: Beck's Bolero (just incredible), Freeway Jam, A Day in the Life, Got the Feeling, Situation, Going Down, Morning Dew, I Ain't Superstitious. There are so many more

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So hard to pick things out, however... have long loved what he did with Mingus's "Good Bye Pork Pie Hat" from Wired. Somewhere Over the Rainbow, so well known, shows his extraordinary evocative skills. As a single disc (video too) intro and supreme example of how to triumph a live show in a tiny cramped venue, Live at Ronnie Scott's is pretty special with Tal and Vinnie there too.

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Jeff Beck - Blow By Blow, by far my favorite solo album of his.
Jeff Beck - Wired, which led to more fusion...
Return To Forever - Romantic Warrior, four virtuoso players doing their thing. Lenny White is one hell of a drummer.
Billy Cobham - A Funky Thide Of Sings, clearly on a drummer thing here.
Jan Hammer Group - Melodies
All on vinyl and cassette.
Cheers for the weekend!

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Keithfan - Jeff Beck sang lead vocals on The Yardbirds "The Nazz Are Blue" on the album often referred to as "Roger The Engineer". He also sang on his hit single from 1967 "Hi Ho Silver Lining" - a song he always said he hated, although he seemed reconciled latterly, and even performed it live a few times. He also sang lead on "Tallyman" from 1967.

If you wanted to cherry pick from his career there is a great live blu ray disc out called "Live at the Hollywood Bowl" recorded in 2016. That features music from all stages of his career and features guest artists, which is fun. I'm not sure if it's available on cd - that might be a good place to start to get an overview.

Harry Chapin sums it up best

Old friends, they mean much more to me than the new friends,
Cause they can see where you are,
And they know where you've been.
Music, has been my oldest friend, my fiercest foe,
Cause it can take me so high,
(High...) Yes it can make me so low.

.... are going to perform the national anthem at tonight's Jags/Chargers game. Pretty cool.
Shakedown Street going into commercial during the Seahawks/Niners game!
I bet Fox plays some Phish too.

I'm always a little late here, but here goes...

I saw Gene Krupa when I was about eleven years old. Was with my family on one of our trips to the New York's World Fair. We were walking around at night and stumbled upon Krupa playing at the Metropole Cafe. Stood in the doorway and watched him pound it out. All I can say is wow - one of my all time favorite musical memories...

1/5/79 - The Spectrum - I remember that a good time was had by all and it snowed - only audience tapes of the show as far as I know

Last five-ish - The Dead - Closing of Winterland - What a fine performance and excellent recording!
Still listening to Dave's 43 and 44
Working my way thru In and Out of the Garden -
Non Dead - The Kinks - On the Road
Hendrix - Groovy Children
Africa 2 - A compilation that came highly recommended, but was somewhat redundant for my tastes -
good dance grooves though
Melissa Aldana - 12 Stars
Tom Petty - Live at the Fillmore

Still in a sipping, not chugging listening style...

Be well and enjoy the music!

And of course playing homage to Jeff Beck listening to a variety of his recordings - Always liked Beck-Ola

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Fantastic comments from everyone on here. Regarding Jef Beck, I always favored the trio of albums beginning with Blow By Blow thru Live with Jan Hammer Group. Of course, there are many, many more excellent releases, Who Else, mentioned by DAVEROCK, Live +, and Jeff Beck’s Guitar Shop to name just 3. As far as songs, I HAVE to put in a good word for ‘Cause We’ve Ended As Lovers, a killer cover of a great Stevie Wonder song, Led Boots, Diamond Dust and Big Block. Too many really, to choose just a handful.
This will probably come as no surprise to anyone when I talk about how much I love music and what it means to me. I guess the shortest way to put it, is that life before the Beatles was black & white. After the Beatles, my life went full technicolor, without doubt.
I can get goose bumps just from a well placed chord, a vocal harmony, or a well written lyric.
I don’t believe life for me, would be worth living without music. I feel blessed.

Excellent article on The Dead in Bob Dylan's recent book "The Philosophy of Modern Song". It's nominally about "Truckin'" but it also touches on why the Dead were a dance band rather than a rock band, and touches on the players various styles. If you want to know how different women looked from the stage when playing with The Stones and The Dead, he tells you that, too. He may not tell you anything you don't already know, but I have rarely seen it put so well.

Regarding the actual song, "The guy singing the song acts and talks like who he is, and not the way others would want him to talk and act." Way to go.

MR ONES - yes, both Live+ and Jeff Beck's Guitar Shop are top drawer. I think it was the way he played that was so magical, irrespective of the song or musical form he chose to unleash it in.

Deadfeati - that is quite something, seeing Gene Krupa live. I wouldn't think there are many around now who could lay claim to that.

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My folks had a vintage turntable and a large speaker encased in a piece of furniture my dad nicknamed "Lenin's Tomb." Shoebox shape, they had lamps on it. This is circa 1962. They had some classical albums, but it was the soundtracks to Broadway shows that I liked most, due to the catchy melodies. I remember Camelot among them. Also Herb Alpert. When the Beatles hit around 1964, I was six going on seven and the grocery store had bins at checkout with the first Beatles album. I begged my mom to buy it for me (even though we were taught to not want things - parents grew up in the Depression), $1.98 I seem to recall. At home, I put the sacred record on the turntable and put the volume low (a) to not bother anyone, but (b) also because this was powerful, radical stuff and I felt conspicuous for getting excited over it. Then I'd sit by Lenin's Tomb and quietly rock out.

A year or so later, they started coming out with handheld transistor radios and a Washington's Birthday sale had 'em for like $10. Again, I begged! I would hide it under my pillow when it was bedtime and sit up listening to AM radio stations out of NYC, dominated by Beatles and Stones but also Ray Charles, Temptations, Motown, Aretha -- the works.

By around '71 (now age 13) the Chambers Brothers were playing nearby and I got my mom to drive me to the show with two friends and pick us up afterwards. The Brothers played "Time" and other hits and I was hooked on live music. I later found out that Duane and the ABB had played there around the same time, but they were not on AM radio and I had yet to delve seriously. (Opportunity lost, like missing 6-10-73!)

Although, my entree to the blues (my real home) was looking at the credits on Beatles and Rolling Stones albums. I could understand credits like Jagger-Richards or Lennon-McCartney, but "McKinley Morganfield"? "Chester Burnett"?? Well, I figured it out and by age 14 was mixing my purchases between transient pop of the day with Chess records.

The following year, one month after turning 15, I went to my first GD show and, man, it was like some kinda crazy carnival that I marveled at but didn't quite get. Everyone seemed to be in such a strange mood... I knew drugs were involved (older brother) but was yet to be "experienced." (I think spring '73 began my "experienced" years -- hey, that's 50 years ago coming up!) As I've said before, after a couple hours of loud rock 'n roll by the Dead, I was good to go home, but the band kept playing and playing!! Good early training. Eventually, I caught on.

Like most of my posts, perhaps TMI. But it's Sunday morning and the coffee (w/Jameson) is good. Cheers!

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warms the soul! Good Sunday morning to you HF.
Similar era, Dad made Heathkit power and speaker kit.
Massive 15" woofer for the show tunes, classical, big band.
Older sisters had the Motown etc. My first 45s were pop-rock.
Like Paul Revere, The Turtles Happy Together, and the song Western Union from ?
Then big and little transistor radios and table top units Mom & Dad won golfing.
Like a Westinghouse that had a removeable little radio, like a docking station.
Later a Panasonic that had a cassette tape recorder and was portable.
Had to rock & roll myself to sleep and still do but with classical.
Mom would always stay up late and come in to turn it off.
At least the equipment has gotten much better LOL.
Thanks for the memory and cheers.

Edit: Found a picture of the Westinghouse on line. Had a high intensity lamp on it too. Blast from the past!

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Thanks Daverock & Co for the Jeff Beck recommendations. Jimmy Page / How Many More Times has that one arrangement that sounds very similar to the first half of Beck's Bolero. Obviously they were close from being in the Yardbirds - I guess the similarity has been acknowledged by them?

I also had a chance to get ìn Freeway Jam - another solid tune.

I saw a call out for the Closing of Winterland. I love this one too. It was one of my first Dead CD purchases and has a great mellow Dark Star, as well as what are in my mind, the best Miracle and Stagger Lee. Scarlet Fire is solid, From the Heart of Me, Not Fade Away, etc etc. Oh, how I wish they'd busted out Shakedown Street, but they played it the previous night (I'm so tempted to grab the one from Rocking the Cradle and drop into the Closing of Winterland folder).

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Keithfan-yes, you are spot on about Beck's Bolero and the Led Zep connection. Interesting that both Jimmy Page AND John Paul Jones played on it. The track "You Shook Me" appeared first on the Jeff Beck Group's "Truth" album, and then again, with very similar arrangement on Led Zep's First album. People used to say that Led Zep ripped of the Beck Group - and while I wouldn't go that far - they do sound as though they were influenced by them

Jimmy Page was always an admirer of Jeff Beck. Once when I saw him in concert, I spotted Jimmy Page in the audience.

.... anywho. I'm in a ska mood. Last five.
Sublime
No Doubt
The Mighty Mighty Bosstones
The Interrupters
Madness
Just single songs from a playlist Spotify made just for me.
Practicing my shuffle dance.
Shuffling looks fun. The shufflers are always smiling. I think I could pull it off.
Music all day Sunday.
Edit on the fly. Small Axe by The Wailers. That's six.
Music is what keeps me sane.

Yes, you would have thought so. Bizarrely I have bumped into him on a number of occasions, and he seems to be a very humble man. He was at a WOMAD world music festival I once went to, and at a gig in a tiny venue in London called The Borderline, to see a band called The Pirates. Just standing shoulder to with everyone else. The last time was at a record shop, just flipping through album sleeves. A rock god amongst average Joes like me, acting like he himself is an average Joe.

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Niiiice

Daves 43
Niiiice

2/15/69
Niiiice

Thelma bonus disc
Niiiice

Whenz the new Davez coming out?

Madness
Haircut 100
The Specials

and weird MTv videos

The messages on this board trigger some (maybe repressed?) memories

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The Selecter? too much pressure
English Beat? I just can't stop it

High school year book: we could have one fun image along with our formal tux picture. One dude's candid was him holding up his ska records. (this was 1982.)

OK, to the cell phone/youtube.

Ska Tuesday (in addition to Dave's 43)

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One Step Beyond was one of Prince Buster’s singles in the UK. I highly recommend the track ‘10 Commandments of Man’ by Prince Buster. It is particularly useful in enraging your female ( and right thinking male ) friends when they hear the lyrics.

On another tack, I notice in the Wolf Brothers show included with the latest version of ‘Ace’ that Bob(by) mentions some of his anecdotes will appear in his book. Does anyone have any info on this?

Edit: One more thing. Something I was reading a couple of days ago said that 17th Jan would have been Janis Joplin’s 80th birthday.

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So funny, I was driving a stretch Cadillac Limousine back in 1991. I drove 5 young ladies (dressed to the 9's) to the show, and as I pulled up to the old Baltimore Civic Center (can't remember the band, so let's say Motley Crue) all 5 gals, simultaneously pulled the biggest hair spray cans I had EVER seen out of their purses and began to spray in unison. I almost passed out!!
Anyway, it was so stereotypical that I always laugh out loud when I think of it.

Back to your newly created Dave's 45 thread.

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....back then.
Watching Green Acres on Pluto TV. I love the characters. Good stuff. Especially Mr. Haney.
Pluto is pretty cool. And it's free.
And the commercials aren't that bad.
I usually mute them anyway.
Oh God. I'm becoming my dad.

....I pulled out Boxilla and dusted her off. Chose Augusta, ME. 10.12.84. Forgot how awesome the first set was.
Feel Like A Stranger
Roses 🌹
One The Road Again
Jack-A-Roe
All Over Now
CUMBERLAND!!
Music 🎵 Never Stopped....
Jerry was on 🔥

That is a great show. And as I have said before, if it hadn't been highlighted on here in the past it may well have slipped below my radar.

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Senator..

I'm rarely critical, but I believe you omitted the second freaking set.

edit: I love the first set too.

As you were......

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