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    One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

    First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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    Let's bring back......

    MUATM

  • hendrixfreak
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    Dooooood, MY mind is scary??

    Oro, you wrote "they’d hunt Dave down like a dog, tie him up, spread peanut butter all over him, and put him out to sea as live bait!"

    I don't even know what kind of counselor you need. Animal cruelty? Food fetishes? Latent fishing needs? Detox? Retox? Or a new TV show: "Shark Week: The Peanut Butter Incident."

    Or ... a box announcement. Gawd, I'm obviously stuck on Dave's casual remark that "a fall '72 box has to happen." Made years ago... But I'll take the "primal box" and go away quietly to my corner. Anyday.

    I'll second your emotion on '77 and extend that to '78. Which might get us to '79, a relatively untouched year. And that leads me to bang the gong again on 8-12-79 at the Rocks. (Still working out the aftermath of that Purple Dragon...)

    If TPTB look to these threads to see what "we" want, they need counseling, too.

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    Double dippin’

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    Whoa, scary place in there lol. ; )
    Well HF, you certainly are tenacious if nothing else lol.
    You would think fall 72 would be the last thing they’d go with, which is exactly why it wouldn’t surprise me!
    But yes, someday you’d think they’d do something from then?

    I don’t think we’re getting an 80s dat box yet as they still have plenty of ABCD Beatty’s etc that need return on the investment. I think/hope we might get something for DaP, but not a box, unless there’s other quality tapes we don’t know about ala Giants? Plus you old “sweet spot” bastards would either suffer widespread strokes, causing a massive class action suit, or they’d hunt Dave down like a dog, tie him up, spread peanut butter all over him, and put him out to sea as live bait! As much as I personally would love an 80s box: Summer 85, 81, 82 for example, I don’t see that happening soon?

    Spring 78 has a big batch of good shows complete in the vault that would make a good medium size box. Think a big one would be too repetitive?

    Still have a whole bunch of 73, including some real high profile summer shows. You’d think they’d unleash that next year, but they seem to purposely avoid anniversaries. This year seems due, but perhaps since it took so long for PNW to sell out (which still puzzles me?) who knows? Maybe next year they’ll give us a Dave’s, and a stand alone ala Dozin, Nightfall, or Rockin’ the Rhine? They used to do more of those, wonder why not anymore?

    Still a bunch of 89 multitracks including some stellar fall shows!!

    If they were going to new territory, fall 91 is perhaps the one consistently good tour left. But I don’t think we’re there yet?

    Still some summer 76 territory but for various reasons you wouldn’t think he’d go back there just yet?

    Could still cobble some 77, and I could list specifics, but don’t want to influence anyone as personally, I’ve had enough 77 at least until we get stuff that we haven’t yet. Sorry, no offense ment to you 77 lovers. It’s just getting to where we have so much from like 4 or 5 years, and little to nothing from others!

    Of course the big psychedelic elephant in the room is a Primal 66-70 box. I think this might have a shot, at least if they listen to us at all? Though there may not be a lot of usable tapes, you’d have to think that with how much they played and how much tape rolled, there has to be enough usable stuff for a taste of 66 and 67, more 68 single disc shows, say a show or 2 from early 69, something from later 69 to show their progression, and something ? from 70?
    I think this is the way to do primal, as quantity, quality, and mucho repetition could make going with just one year for example, difficult?

    I think these are the biggest, most obvious holes, but certainly there are other possibilities depending on format etc.
    in fact I’m sure someone will suggest something else immediately after I post this lol. One thing DHs do not lack is opinions!

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    Naturally, I also cannot recall what else they put out last year, besides Listen and the DaP series. At least we know that they've been busy this year with the E72 anniversary releases. Thus, a box announcement later this summer makes sense.

    The most logical/illogical release possible this year would be fall '72. With last year's box and this year's E72 celebration, they'd be nuts to go with fall '72. And yet, if they're focused on a hot seller, that'd be a sure winner. However, after the Listen box and that double '87 DaP, I predicted this year's box would be '80s DATs. Maybe instead of a location-based focus like St. Louis, they go with another run of shows across a tour, with locations varied.

    Please continue with your regular programming while I squirm and contort (in my mind, peoples, in my mind!) over the mystery box. I used to be the guy counseling patience and here's how that turned out...

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    head over to the Ride Board thread in the forums. Use that search box (probably at the top right) to find the thread.
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    Nick - cheers. It's only a few quid more on Amazon. A remarkable film, too. With the kabuki makeup and totemic presence of Mick Ronson, it put me in mid of David Bowie's performances circa 1972-73 a bit. I don't know what they would have made of it at the Newport Folk Festival. Dylan's performance seems quite shamanic - as reflected in Anne Waldman's poem in the excellent book included with the disc.
    I think it will be a toss up between this cd box and The Complete Motown Singles 1968 for my next purchase.

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    ATTENTION NITECAT

    Attention NITECAT, please check your pm.

    In response to BTK, ANY 1970 release would be welcome, but I'm not sure the June FW run would make a great box set. Yes of course it has it's peaks, but it has some deep valleys as well. That beings said, I would buy it!!

    Just one doc's opinion...........

    Rock on,

    Doc
    The function of memory is not only to preserve, but also to throw away........

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    Boy, this would sure make a nice box set.

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    Last year LTTR was announced on 7/21 and released on 10/1/2021.

    We probably have a while.

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One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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Ordered already !!!

Awesome, I’ve been asking for 3-9-81 for years. Hope all the shows get Plangentized.

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Ordered mine before breakfast! I know everyone isn't into the 80's. Personally I like all the years. Like the St. Louis box, it will be interesting to note changes from year to year, although they may not be as pronounced as the Louis box.

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One of the FIRST shows on cassette I ever got.

Well done, PTB. Well done.

:)))

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I havn't bought it yet, but it looks like a good one. The Dead played great in those years. I'll buy it eventually, I don't believe it will sell out that fast.

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Sounds like an oxymoron to me, but who cares!! It’s primal 1969, JUST before 1970, which we ALL(well, almost all) have been clamoring for!! I simply CANNOT WAIT to unwrap this and push play!!

Thanks Dave, Music is the Best!!

Why bother considering yourself a Deadhead in the first place? Labels are for jerks. As has been said-music is the best - not all the crap that goes with it.

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Hey rockers,

I am a major deadhead. Saw shows in the 1981-1983 era. That was then, this is now. The new box does NOTHING for me. So what does that make me? LOL! If others like it, great!

Me, I'm saving my $$$ for next years Banana Box Box Set: Fillmore West February 1970 complete.

Do I have 1968-1972 blinders on? You bet. No apologies, no explanations........

And for all you Pigpen/Lovelight haters out there, remember this: No Pigpen, no Grateful Dead.

Rock on,

Doc
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38 years ago today I was at the Greek Theatre to see the Dead. I don't remember much about the show because 7/13/84 was what 1984 was all about. Doc, that Fillmore West box sounds fantastic, I believe your right, next year is the year it happens.

I certainly don't hate Pigpen, but I don't think everything he did was wonderful. Lovelight would have been great to me without the raps. Longer than 15 minutes and it over stayed it's welcome for me . Hard To Handle, on the other hand, was invariably great - all groove and no nonsense.

it’s not hate vs love, it’s pure and simple burnout!
I’ve been listening to too much Dead for over 45 years!
Some things I used to love I now have to be in the mood for. It’s that simple.
I won’t list the main culprits Randy cause I’m sure it will incite a shit wind we don’t want or need to blow!
But, for instance, I’d probably be good if I never heard another me & my uncle again lol, but that doesn’t mean that on the right occasion it won’t get me grooving. So it’s not so much the song as it is I’ve just heard it too much (besides the Dead I used to play it in a band EVERY NIGHT, sometimes twice!, for many years).
I’m with Daverock about Dark Star vs LL. Since DS is often more modal and or free form, thus not so repetitive etc, versus LL is basically a blues pattern that they improvise over, it’s just naturally more repetitive. And I love Pig, but his shtick too can be very repetitive and thus get old. Plus I’m not 16 anymore so it doesn’t resonate quite as much. Like it was mind blowing the first times on my teenage peanut brain, but now…
Thus, to me, after all these years, it can sometimes get very tedious listening to something that long and repetitive.
To be clear, this does not mean I don’t like it, I’m just burned out on it, big difference.
And like any song, “Sometimes you get shown the light…”
I only bring this up because I feel like there’s a good contingent out there that feels the same, or not?
And I think sometimes here, like the rest of the world, things just get to damn binary.
I mean we’re all supposed to be DHs on the same team loving the same band. Of course everyone is entitled to their opinions etc, it’s just sometimes the tone used is a bummer.
I liked how Doc gave his strong opinion, but without insulting anyone. It can be done.
But, as stated, that’s just what moi thinks, so probably meaningless lol.
Be Kind! Ain’t no time to hate.

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It's ok to love things others don't, and it's ok to not like things others love. That's the benefit of being free to be you, you can dig what you want and disregard the rest.

As far as dead burnout, if you listen long enough to anything it can get old and stale. Not to mention, there is a ton of great stuff out there that you will miss if you listen to nothing but dead. When I feel like listening to the dead, I dive in and groove, and when I don't, there are hundreds of other choices on the shelf. I do know from past experience, that just because a release doesn't really strike me as fantastic when it is announced, it doesn't mean I won't jones hard for it later if I pass on picking it up, so it's easier to just get nearly everything they release as I rarely have a case of buyers' remorse, but I have had to pay a premium to pick up stuff I passed on when it was first released.

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…Between Love And Hate, so sayeth the song of that title. I get burned out on bands repeatedly. That’s why I love having a super varied music collection. Burned out on A?? I think I’ll play B, G, or X. I’m seriously impressed at how much Dead some of you folks listen to, I just thrive on variety. So to each their own, that’s why they make chocolate AND vanilla!!

I won’t disparage anyone’s tastes or bands they like/love. I don’t have time for that. And like DAVEROCK says, why do I have to put a label on it?? I play it, love it, and then play something else. The Dead happen to be one of my favorite bands, who I happen to own hundreds of releases by, But damn, I need so much more. Having said that, I am SUPER stoked for #43!!

Music just happens to be the Best!!

The latter is overrated, the former is precious. Life may be sweeter for this, I don't know...

I do know one thing, we need less hate and more love. Be yourselves but don't get sucked towards the hate magnet. That's about as GD and I can write.

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So I know this is off topic ;D but regarding Dave's Picks... Dave- I'm ever-grateful to get to hear this music but can you PLEASE give us the shows as they were performed instead of mixing them together (#43 is an especially jumbled mess).

Thank you.

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I also would prefer releases have the show in original sequence, with any bonus content at one end or the other of the main show of the release rather than interspersed throughout. I'd rather pay for an extra disc to keep the sequence intact, rather than to chop it up to fit on three discs. I suspect that this may be the minority view based on past discussions about bonus content and out of sequence songs.

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Realizing just now that the illustrious VGuy waltzed right past me last night in row 22 at Red Rocks!

I appreciated his "Make America Grateful Again" t-shirt at the time, he must not have seen my House of Guitars tee or I know he would have stopped for a fist bump!

Next I get to stroll down to the mailbox to pick up DP 43 (no shipping notice, but I got the heads up from my account with USPS- pro tip).

Let the good times roll! And now back to your regularly scheduled Gathering Flowers For The Master's Bouquet...

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So I've got Your Picks Vol. 43 in my hands and CD player. Cool music.... BUT...

I ask you, sir--is this how YOU listen to these shows? The first 9 songs of 11/2/69, then the 5 songs from 12/26/69, then 4 songs from 11/2, then 11 songs from 12/26??

If yes, then I don't feel you really appreciate the experience of live Dead--how each show is a unique event and piece of musical art, how each show has a rhythm and a story all its own. (This is WHY so many of us spend thousands of dollars buying these very shows on CD when we are content with just getting the best studio releases from other artists we love.)

If this is NOT how you would listen to these shows, and you do enjoy and appreciate listening to a show as it was performed, then you are not really respecting the rest of us who want to listen to the shows in that way but don't have the privilege of access to GD's vaults.

You make great choices of shows-- just let us listen to them as Jerry intended please. It's doable. Every single box set release does it.

Thanks!

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I’m really enjoying this release, some new songs for me…Seasons of my Heart and Gathering Flowers…Plus two more Dark Stars, Yum.
Nice archival newspaper clips about Live Dead.
The sound is great too, big thanks to Owsley for our now-future enjoyment.

Also if coupled with Dave’s Picks 6 we have11/2, 12/20, 12/21, 12/26 1969 and 2/2 1970.
For the song/show playing sequence I’ll quote Jerry from the 11/2 show:-) “this evening is fraught with difficulties, absolutely fraught with difficulties”

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What do these have in common?

Led Zeppelin
Pink Floyd
Moody Blues
Rolling Stones
King Crimson
Motorhead
Sex Pistols
Sweet
ELP
ELO
The Who

Identify the commonality in these artists and you win!

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The builders of my townhouse made a slanted roof with planters.

The bar holding them in place at the angle should be held by 10 bolts.

How many bolts did they actually install?

Six.

That leads to pains in the tookess, people.

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I can't believe people are griping about the song order. There is no reason to waste space on another CD, just to have the songs in order. Add another disc and then a contingency will complain there is only a half hour of music on one CD, and they want bonus tracks. Or that Dark Star / St Stephen / The Eleven was divided over two discs. While cost may be no problem for you, it is for others. Go buy a CD changer and program the tracks in the correct order.

To say Lemieux is disrectful to the fans for this is a gross stretch of reality. It is because he respects rhe fans that he did this. It is easy to see he loves the fans and is eager to get great music to us. And you insult him. That us the problem with your post. Yes you are entitled to your opinion. No you are not entitled to throw accusations and make people feel bad. You owe an apology.

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Who hears repeated dropouts on vocals in this #42 set especially disc 2? (see reports of such on-line elsewhere)?

Seem to be a characteristic of 1974 shows. But the funny thing is...it's never Donna who seems to be dropped out. You would think they might wipe some of her triumphant screams off the end of the Playing jams. Blame it on the reels.

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