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    What a setlist!... Made me jealous of those who saw this era live. Great sound… like ‘77 was yesterday. @derekb192 on 10/1/77, YouTube

    Wow! Just as when you think eyes is gonna go to drums out of the bliss comes dancing! One of my all time fave moments! Not just classic 77 but classic ever dead! - @emrysdavies1215 on 10/1/77, YouTube

    ...this show was off the hook from the very get go. The Casey Jones is the best I've heard... beginning a jam that goes through each member going off on an instrumental solo. The end has them jamming so hard you can no longer hear them singing through it. Now you know you're in trouble (The Good Kind) when a show starts like that... Weirtheir on 10/2/77, Dead.net

    Holy hell, the 10/2/77 Betty Board sounds incredible... I just wanted to pay homage to this unreleased gem, which features the lovely, tight playing you'd expect of a 77 show with some of the highest audio quality I've ever heard ... What a treat. u/monsteroftheweek13 on 10/2/77, Reddit

    I told my mother I was going into Portland with friends. I never told her where I went... @jamesmoore3694 on 10/1/77, YouTube

    We know where you've been and we're taking you back with the twice as nice DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 45: PARAMOUNT THEATRE, PORTLAND, OR - 10/1/77 & 10/2/77. Back-to-back complete previously unreleased shows on 4CDs? You betcha! Why? Because we couldn't pick one over the other of these two nights that have been described as "fire," "mind-frying," and "crispy" (bit of a theme here) too many times to count. Witness it for yourself when you dig into the inventive medleys and pristine sound, not to mention the first "Dupree's Diamond Blues" since '69 and the first live "Casey Jones" since '74.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson (with a boost from Bob Menke, more about that in David's video) and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

    *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • #1151
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    I like to think I am open minded...but I draw the line at opera.

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    DaveRock - I agree, you have to give everything a chance. I even gave opera a chance - twice! - and it was ok. Just not my thing, but either is death metal or Broadway music, but I don’t put it down. Punk had its place, and some truly great artists emerged from it (Iggy, Ramones, Patti Smith), but I was deeply into the Dead et al long before the Pistols etc played a note. In fact, the guy that really introduced me to the Dead and the Byrds was a huge New York Dolls fan. Funny how that works.

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    ....going with Jimi Hendrix The BBC Sessions for the Eagles/Niners game.

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    ....hallowed ground. I wish I could've visited.

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    ThatMike - yes, I have always liked music across supposedly conflicting genre's. The year of punk - 1976 - was also the year I started getting into The Dead. "Steal Your Face" - a but perplexing, but hey. Johnny Rotten had a Pink Floyd tee shirt, on which he scrawled "I Hate" in front of the bands name. It was designed to annoy people - Pink Floyd were like rock royalty at that time, so expressing an opinion like that was like heresy. It was drawing a line - that was then - this is now. It wouldn't surprise me to hear that he actually liked them, and had been to see them a few times. It seemed very important to distance yourself from the older generation when I was a teenager. it was quite unusual to have it pointed out that The Stones, Led Zep, Yes, Pink Floyd etc and their fans now WERE the older generation.
    Nick Mason included a reproduction of the offending tee shirt in the big Pink Floyd exhibition a few years ago. He saw it as a compliment!

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    Fast Fact: ON THIS DAY, JANUARY 29, 1961, BOB DYLAN, 19 YEARS OLD, TOOK A BUS TO MORRIS PLAINS, NEW JERSEY, WHERE HE MET FOR THE FIRST TIME HIS IDOL AND INSPIRATION WOODY GUTHRIE..

    As for Punk, or New Wave, by the time the first wave ramped up, I was pretty entrenched in Dylan, the Dead, the Byrds etc, all the bands and performers that seemed to piss the hardcore punks off, which I never understood. I always felt there is room for all music; I don’t care for Pink Floyd, for example, which seemed to be a target for the punks, but I just figured if I didn’t like them, I didn’t have to, I didn’t need to put down them or their audience. Just play, man.

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    R.I.P. Tom Verlaine

    A truly original and exceptional guitarist. As Crow said, he used different scales to the ones practised by other guitarists at that time. Incredible tone too. It was pointed out at the time that he sounded more in the realm of Barry Melton and John Cippollina than the prog and heavy rock players of the time. "Marquee Moon " is the classic, but the follow up, "Adventure" is almost as good.

    The American bands from the mid 70's grouped together as punk seemed to be ones that played regularly at CBGB's in New York. They were a refreshing antidote to stadium rock. As Joey Ramone once said, not country rock, blues, rock, jazz rock, prog rock or heavy rock....but rock rock. They seemed to take their lead from the so called garage bands of the mid 60's, commemorated on Lenny Kaye's brilliant "Nuggets" collection. The 13th Floor Elevators, The Standells, The Chocolate Watchband etc. Plus The Stooges and the MC5.
    In England in 1976, punk was great at first. The first Ramones album, released that summer, I think, was the blue touch paper. I used to go to a dump called The Electric Circus in the backstreets of Manchester - very different from The Free Trade Hall-home of The Halle Orchestra, where I saw the likes of Genesis. I felt at home there for about 6 months. Not many people attended and it seemed to attract a motley collection of misfits like me. By mid 1977 it was jammed to the rafters with identikit "punks" who had jumped on to the band wagon. Short of hair and short of temper. Gangs of spitting, punching hooligans. The musical style was reduced to three chord blasts ripped off from The Ramones, but without their style or humour. Time for me to move on.

    English punk hasn't aged well with me at all. Most bands I liked in the 70's, I still like - but not that. Apart from the first 4 Sex Pistols singles. Television, on the other hand, still sound great.

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    ‘The Grateful Dead of Punk’

    That’s what some people used to call Television. Because they knew more than three chords, played songs that lasted longer than two minutes, and didn’t wear safety pins through their cheeks, I guess. But they got called ‘punk’ in the mid-70s, along with Patti Smith, Pere Ubu, Talking Heads, and a lot of other great bands who didn’t fit the stereotype. Because the stereotype hadn’t been invented yet.

    It wasn’t till the late ‘70s/early '80s that “punk” came to mean three chords and a mohawk. When it first started, it basically meant you could do whatever you wanted. And it meant you wanted to reject the tired old bullshit that most arena rock bands were peddling and do something new. But when it started to become a “movement,” and people wanted to jump on the bandwagon, they found that it was fucking hard to come up with anything as original as Patti Smith or Television. That took talent. But it was really easy to get a buzz cut, buy a leather jacket, learn three chords, and imitate the Ramones. And eventually everybody sounded like the Ramones (who I love, btw) and the punk scene became even more rigidly conformist than mainstream rock.

    Anyway … sad news about Tom Verlaine. He was a HUGE influence on so many, including me personally: back when I was learning guitar, two guys I copied the most were Garcia and Verlaine, precisely because they were different from everybody else, played scales most rock guys didn’t play, had a sense of time that was different than 99.9% of rock guitarists. Go listen to Verlaine’s solo on “Marquee Moon” and tell me Jerry wouldn’t have approved.

    Don’t fret the relatively slow sell out of DaP 45. If the series was sustainable financially back when they were doing 12,000 copies, you can be sure that it’s still sustainable when they’re doing 25,000, even if it takes a few weeks, or even a few months to sell them all. Having a run of 25,000 that doesn’t sell out in a day just means more copies are going to people who actually love the music, at list price, as opposed to paying double or triple or quadruple or quintuple or sextuple that to the scalpers who’ve been leaching off everybody for years.

    My prediction? The GD archival release program will go into warp speed overdrive for the next 5-10 years, trying to sell as much of the vault as they can before all of us dinosaurs who still buy physical media hit the boneyard. It’s going to be glorious. The releases, that is. The boneyard, not as much.

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    The one good reason I can think of to be concerned about a Dave's Picks not selling out is our long term release prognosis. There was a time when we waited a relatively long time between releases. I don't want to go back to those days. Regardless of why they're not sold out in a day, it's always better for us if the Grateful Dead release program is doing well. Who wants to see fewer releases per year? Not me.

    I think the Dave's Picks sales have been impacted because they manufacture the 25K as already mentioned. This is a double whammy against them. I know that a large number of subscriptions were purchased by eBay resellers. Resellers are not doing as well for 2 reasons.
    - The 25K saturates the eBay market, so the resellers don't make as much per unit, and they can't flip the product as quickly. This is usually a second business for people. Now resellers buy fewer subscriptions.
    - The government passed laws that require eBay sellers to charge sales tax to buyers, as well as pay income tax on their sales. It was always a requirement to report eBay sales, but small pedlars were not doing this. Now eBay is required to report Seller income to the the IRS, so pedlars have no choice but to pay close to 50% of their profit to the IRS, eBay, and PayPal. And the cost of shipping has gone up.

    This means pedlars are screwed. They need to charge 3x as much as they did a couple of years ago, and inflation is through the roof. The average Deadhead isn't go to pay $100+ for the new Dave's Picks.

    Eventually the pain will trickle down to us. It won't be this year or next, but we've all been in this over the long haul, so when you add in the fact that there are lots of officially released shows from many years already, demand is on the down.

    Dead and Co is also going away. Their touring helped drive sales. I'm not saying the Vault release program is going away, but maybe I am. I don't know anything about their contract with the Dead or their budget for new releases. What we all need to do is buy 2 subscriptions each year and will a set to our children. One day they will be true collectors items.

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What a setlist!... Made me jealous of those who saw this era live. Great sound… like ‘77 was yesterday. @derekb192 on 10/1/77, YouTube

Wow! Just as when you think eyes is gonna go to drums out of the bliss comes dancing! One of my all time fave moments! Not just classic 77 but classic ever dead! - @emrysdavies1215 on 10/1/77, YouTube

...this show was off the hook from the very get go. The Casey Jones is the best I've heard... beginning a jam that goes through each member going off on an instrumental solo. The end has them jamming so hard you can no longer hear them singing through it. Now you know you're in trouble (The Good Kind) when a show starts like that... Weirtheir on 10/2/77, Dead.net

Holy hell, the 10/2/77 Betty Board sounds incredible... I just wanted to pay homage to this unreleased gem, which features the lovely, tight playing you'd expect of a 77 show with some of the highest audio quality I've ever heard ... What a treat. u/monsteroftheweek13 on 10/2/77, Reddit

I told my mother I was going into Portland with friends. I never told her where I went... @jamesmoore3694 on 10/1/77, YouTube

We know where you've been and we're taking you back with the twice as nice DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 45: PARAMOUNT THEATRE, PORTLAND, OR - 10/1/77 & 10/2/77. Back-to-back complete previously unreleased shows on 4CDs? You betcha! Why? Because we couldn't pick one over the other of these two nights that have been described as "fire," "mind-frying," and "crispy" (bit of a theme here) too many times to count. Witness it for yourself when you dig into the inventive medleys and pristine sound, not to mention the first "Dupree's Diamond Blues" since '69 and the first live "Casey Jones" since '74.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson (with a boost from Bob Menke, more about that in David's video) and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Just received my package with the Portland Shows.
I eventually paid (in France) like 15 bucks, and it ’s my own fault because I would have paid half on line. Wallet is the best place to learn.
Some of you heard this story: In heaven French do the cooking, the policemen are English, German organize everything and Italian do the entertainment.
In hell English do the cooking, the policemen are French, Italian organize everything, German do the entertainment and …Swiss do the shipping.
Anyway collecting dead shows is no more a merry prankster thing.

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Submitted by BedHead77 on Wed, 02/08/2023 - 09:01

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Never enough 77.
(whispers)
Never...

Though more of the under-represented years would be nice (if the PB&J are listening).

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Wed, 02/08/2023 - 10:31

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Harem Scarem. RGM reissue from 1991, never been on vinyl.
Never heard of them. Any thoughts?
Some connection with this album and a TV show.
Cheers, eh?

RV3's new series of releases "Brent's Picks"?

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Submitted by billy the kiddd on Wed, 02/08/2023 - 12:12

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March & December, still some good music left.

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Submitted by daverock on Wed, 02/08/2023 - 12:24

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Sheik- I like that line about how the English do the cooking in hell. They could also manage the railways and decide what the drug laws should be.

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Submitted by simonrob on Wed, 02/08/2023 - 13:13

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The Dutch would be responsible for administration.

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Submitted by BedHead77 on Wed, 02/08/2023 - 14:55

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Winterland 77 March/December would be a nice haul for sure.
Likewise the remaining Palladium 77 run.
A do-over 5/22 full show release would be swell as well.

Also, an October 74 Winterland box.

Also...

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Submitted by Cousins Of The… on Wed, 02/08/2023 - 15:27

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10/9 and 10/10 would make a nice two-fer. Great auds of both days available on the Archive.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Wed, 02/08/2023 - 16:08

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In the last 15-16 months, 9 Brent shows have been released.
MSG Box
DaP 40, 44

2 more shows with DaP 36.
And the Giants Stadium Box a few years ago.

There is no shortage of Brent releases.

There is a shortage of Bruce releases.

There is a shortage of video releases.

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The View From The Vault Series gave us some Bruce plus video.

Dave/Rhino,
Time for more video.
Thanks for 6-17-91 on Blu-ray, but don’t stop there.

We need all the video from:
Oct. 74, Oct. 80, European tours, Alpine 89, Tinley Park 90.

Then some selections from 91 starting with Soldier Field.

Thanks in advance.

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Submitted by Angry Jack Straw on Wed, 02/08/2023 - 18:16

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without a shipping issue, I’ve had to endure two debacles in a row.

So DaP45 finally arrived today. I have been listening to it all evening.

Remember the scene in the movie Big where all the executives and Josh (Tom Hanks) are meeting to evaluate the merits of the new company toy. At the end of the discussion Josh meekly raises his hand and says, “I don’t get it.”

That’s how I feel about this release.

....I'm not going to mention any names, but how about some 1991-1995?
Guess most of them wouldn't cut the mustard, but I saw plenty of shows then, and I recall some being pretty damn good.
A Vegas Box would be much welcome.
Throw in some dice and playing cards. Limited to seven come eleven of course.
One can hope!
The Sphere is being lit up btw. Test runs.
Edit....what don't you get AJS? Why it was released at all? 🤔
I'm open to a discourse.

Ha...

I have mine but have not had the opportunity to listen. I reserve the right to resurrect my view on 1977 GD upon my listen. 77 shows remind me of my supermodel ex-girlfriend. Practically perfect yet somehow not altogether satisfying.

I'm sure it's absolutely killer. First world problems to be sure.

As you were.

Edit: I really have nothing against '77 GD. When I am in the mood it does magic.

Saw a few really solid shows between 91-95, with 10/19/94 at MSG being one of the best.

Was psyched that they released the Feels Like>Bertha from that show as part of this year’s 30 Daze line up.

The 10/1/94 Boston gig they included in the 30 trips box is also pretty fab.

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Submitted by Angry Jack Straw on Wed, 02/08/2023 - 21:07

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Sir James probably summed it up best. It’s oddly unsatisfying.

There’s nothing bad about it, but there’s also nothing overly exciting about it. I thought that even the sound quality was just average.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 02/08/2023 - 21:50

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I'd simply like more '68, '69 and '70.

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Submitted by daverock on Thu, 02/09/2023 - 01:11

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A live concert can be enjoyed at the time of being there, but that doesn't mean it would make a satisfying recording.
Actually, that applies to releases from all eras, from all bands. But it was posts from people who enjoyed Dead shows between 91-95, and suggested some of those be released that reminded me of the fact.

It works the other way round, too. Some live shows I have been to I haven't enjoyed - but listening to recordings of them later, I realised they were better than I thought they'd been. Even Jerry commented on this phenomena- I think it's in The Dead Movie he recalls not liking their performance on 2/14/68 and throwing Phil down some stairs as a response. He listened to them later, and found them to be... "crackling with energy" I think was the phrase.

From my vast experience of going to Dead shows, I would say there was hardly any relation between being there and listening to live recordings.

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Submitted by sheik yerbones on Thu, 02/09/2023 - 01:13

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"in Hell": this story is very "cliché". I heard it on a richard Thompson Dvd, maybe 2000 years of pop music...
Yesterday I was a bit annoyed cause I spent time on the phone and car to get this package. Things have changed since the elephant administration...4 or 5 years ago? I felt like paying tax for a boxset for two shows.

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Submitted by sheik yerbones on Thu, 02/09/2023 - 01:33

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it depends of the mood you are in. But most of gd recordings are great, even the 82 cassettes. (dickP32)
If you listen Dylan 's fragments bootleg series vol 17, you can measure the greatness of gd recordings. I had to listen live cd4 more times to appreciate, but there's nothing like the other studio takes. the Dead has built the best show catalogue of all time.

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Submitted by Forensicdoceleven on Thu, 02/09/2023 - 01:39

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Hey rockers.............

My parents used to say, "If you can't say anything good about something, don't say anything at all". That's why I'm here not saying anything about anything...................

Portland? Don't get the buzz about all that, but we got our annual 77 so let's move on. But not on to 91-95. Some February 1973 would hit the spot...........

Heaven is my current wife, hell is my ex-wife, purgatory is alimony.............

Rock on,

Doc
If your parents never had children, chances are you won't either......

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Submitted by Dennis on Thu, 02/09/2023 - 06:49

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Dead releases are like Texas weather, don't like it, wait, it'll change.

There is something for everyone, but everyone won't like everything.

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RIP Burt Bacharach
What the World needs now is Love as true today as the day he wrote it.
Via Con Dios so many tunes from out yesterdays

Lurking lately, now catching up again after last weekends deep deep freeze here in Vermont. Live about 50 air miles from Mount Washington and was paying close attention to the extreme weather, cause there's new plumbing in my unheated, fortunately below grade marginally insulated basement. It was 21 below zero last Saturday morning with 35 mph gusts that night, very happy to be earth sheltered. But all that pales infinitesimally to the tragic situation in Turkey. So though #45 was here, was not in the mood to begin paying attention until now, have not yet completed a first run. First impression was very good to excellent recording, Donna in a good place, agreed it seems a bit drum forward, seems to be slight emphasis on mid bass such there is slight percussive effect not noticed on most other recordings. This is a very minor observation. Glad to have these shows tidied up, good fun, obviously not peak 77. Easily distracted by other posts, totally agree with Oro that when the Dead went to Macintosh power amps, audio was cleaned up by a factor or at least 10X... love those old Fender tube amps when they are run right but there was tube abuse, those 6L6s, EL84s etc output tubes pushed so hard, ran so hot, their distortion figures must have been above the 1-2% range. Now to video, though the VftV series is here along with other commercially released vids, had never thought to look for the June 21, 1971 Chateau d'Herouville show and was pleased to find it this morning on utu be. House party on the lawn. Bit rough and raw, hand held cameras, for such a location, the audio is good and there's an excellent Hard to Handle, pig in fine form. Worth checking out.

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Submitted by billy the kiddd on Thu, 02/09/2023 - 08:59

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50 years ago today I wasn't at Maples Pavilion up in Palo Alto. ( I'm sure I was doing something that was just as fun), but my brother was there and he had a blast!. This show would make a great release.

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Thu, 02/09/2023 - 09:26

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when Doc and Dennis just handled it all.

Except, what about Jer on Disc One?? He's ripping!

Haven't spun the shows yet. Just dipped toe. More toes tonight.

Arrived this morning. Good to see it in the flesh, as it were, after having looked at it's picture so many times on the board. I have only played the 1st cd, and I did enjoy it - crisp and clear with plenty of energy. It's neither more nor less than I was expecting really. Possibly a bit more. One of the benefits of reading negative reviews is that it lowers the bar a bit, so that when I do get to hear the offending show, it sounds better than I was expecting. When everyone praises a show it sometimes gives it too much to live up to. And when I do eventually get round to listening to one of those, I can then think that it's not as good as everyone says it is.

Curiously the "Promised Land "-"They Love Each Other" openers appear to be soundboard recordings on my old bootleg. The Promised Land suddenly cuts out after a minute, though.

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Thu, 02/09/2023 - 13:46

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I have absolutely no idea how May '77 Cornell became so revered. It sounds/plays like the least interesting show in that run. Real good show. No standout.

Just two cents to augment what daverock said.

From what I've heard so far, I'm going to really enjoy the new pick and not worry how it might be assessed by others. As for ranking shows, I don't have the brain cells to spare.

Most likely because it was the first high-quality soundboard recording that was widely available to the masses. It got everybody hooked. Thank you Betty.

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Submitted by BedHead77 on Thu, 02/09/2023 - 14:17

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This part. Exactly.

First tape I ever owned.

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Submitted by deadmike on Thu, 02/09/2023 - 14:17

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Yes, this time Dave's Picks arrived in Växjö in less than two weeks!

Got it yesterday, on February 8th, and listen right now to the second CD (second set from October 1st). Good music even though shows from 1977 seems to be a little over-done by now.

I would appreciate more bits and pieces from fall 1966 to 1970 and maybe not as a Dave's Picks volume, I would appreciate a release of June 9-10, 1973.
I have a framed poster above my stereo / TV furniture with a photo of Weir, Lesh and Garcia from one of those shows. Bought it in San Francisco in August or September 1986 and have had it on different walls since I got home to Sweden again. The show from June 10 was one of my first tapes I recieved early in 1985 after having a tape traders ad in the last issue of The Golden Road fanzine in 1984.
But I would prefer something much more superior in sound quality by now. :-)

Well, anyway I'm pleased and grateful for a delivery faster than the seven or eight weeks I normally have to wait for a new DP volume! :-)

Micke Östlund,
Växjö, Sweden

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Submitted by Forensicdoceleven on Thu, 02/09/2023 - 15:55

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Just for the record, I've only ever had one....................

In regards to Cornell, it was definitely NOT one of the first high quality boards available to the masses. That's a myth, there were lots of other high quality things----including early stuff. That being said, it WAS one of the first high quality 77s to enter wide circulation. But as many more 77s came out---including the shows right before and right after----some of the luster came off Cornell.

I think Cornell is similar to Veneta---it's one of those "you had to be there" types of things. And, like Veneta, good show, but one of the great great overrated Grateful Dead shows.

Just one man's opinion.......

Rock on,

Doc
He who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead; his eyes are closed......

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Submitted by itsburnsy on Thu, 02/09/2023 - 16:15

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Does anyone else hear a muffled voice, like someone on a phone or behind glass say "He's just talking to 1A, come on back." during Black Peter, right at 6:45? Did it come from the disc, or did my computer pick up a nearby call or something.

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Submitted by Charlie3 on Thu, 02/09/2023 - 16:28

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Who cares? It either moves you or it doesn't. If it moves you listen again, if it doesn't then move on to something that does. I like some of these picks more than others, but I want them all. I don't have any list of desired releases, and although I love to see shows that I attended released, they are not necessarily the releases that I go back to most often. Really, I just want shows with good sound quality, songs presented in order, and beyond that it is all subjective. One person's good release is another's ho-hum release, which is pretty clear from this thread. I like to listen to a wide variety of music, with a good chunk of it Dead, but there is so much music to listen to, and my enjoyment depends not a bit on how folks rank it.

Burt Bacharach had a ton of great stuff, including some fantastic stuff covered by Isaac Hayes that really hits the spot - Walk on By from Hot Buttered Soul, The Look of Love from ...To Be Continued, and They Long to Be from the classic Black Moses album, some really classic stuff best played a little loud on a good system. Or maybe a lot loud.

Yes, I've just heard it on "Black Peter" too. I think this show, 10/1, is pretty good overall. Some great guitar playing throughout.
I wonder also if shows like Cornell and Veneta gained a reputation because of strongly expressed and publicised opinions affirming their superiority in earlier times. And those opinions became reinforced by others until they became perceived as fact. John Dwork wrote pages and pages about Veneta in The Taping Compendium, whereas some shows on the European tour were summed up in a few paragraphs. Granted, they may not have had the full tapes for some of the European shows, but the impression given is that Veneta is the greatest show of the year - if not of all time. Maybe articles like that, blow shows..like that...out of all proportion.

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Submitted by musicnow on Thu, 02/09/2023 - 17:25

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Oh, it's there on the disc. It freaked me out when I first heard it in my car zoned in on the commute to work!

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Submitted by LedDed on Thu, 02/09/2023 - 18:13

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This release to me felt like an old broke in pair of jeans the first time I listened to it. It feels comfortable and makes me feel good. I've listened to it all four or five times now, minus Let it Grow and Cassidy which I generally just do not care for. Bah! Humbug! How dare he.

I have a Nash T52 Telecaster which arrived, brand new, heavily relic'd. I liken this release to it. The guitar played like butter right out of the box like an old friend I just met. I had never heard this show before, but it's what, 46 years old? Older is usually better with cars, wine, whisky, guitars, Dead shows. Hell, my wife is 50 and I wouldn't even trade her for a 20 year old. ;-p

Just a matter of taste I guess. Love this release and can't wait for the next one.

Peace everyone... well, almost.

\m/

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Submitted by proudfoot on Thu, 02/09/2023 - 18:24

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Ho
Lee
Phuc

I give up on y'all

I really gotta quit coming to these posting thingies....

Cornell

Great sound and the greatest orgasmic Morning Dew of all time

"You told me goodbye
How was I to know
You didnt mean goodbye
You meant please
Dont let me go"

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 02/09/2023 - 19:55

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....I like the '83 Santa Fe shows. Like. A lot. Definitely whatever rated lol.
I'm just here hoping for a Dave's that is numbered under four digits. One day.
And LedDed. I wouldn't trade my 50+ year old wife for a 20 year old either.
She's hotter and smarter anyways.

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Submitted by Charlie3 on Thu, 02/09/2023 - 20:07

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Hey, Nineteen
No, we got nothing in common
No, we can't dance together
No, we can't talk at all
Please take me along, when you slide on down

Yngwie Malmsteen - Relentless
The Flaming Lips - At War With The Mystics
GD - 10.2.77 Portland, OR
The Cult - Love
Deep Purple - Deep Purple In Rock
List works imo....

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 02/09/2023 - 21:40

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....Yo La Tengo just dropped a record. Like, forty minutes ago.
Yessssss

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Submitted by daverock on Thu, 02/09/2023 - 23:57

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It always strikes me as ludicrous when people think they have nothing in common with others who disagree with them. The commonality lies in the fact that people understand each other, not that they agree. If I told my neighbour that I thought Veneta or Cornell were overrated, she would neither know nor care what I was talking about. If I said the same thing on here - I'm not assuming anyone would care - but at least a lot of people would understand what I was saying. Whether anyone agreed or not would be interesting to me - but not divisive.

Ledded - that Nash tele sounds alright. I wouldn't mind seeing a picture of that.

I am sure the 50 year old wives find it reassuring that they wouldn't be swopped for 20 years olds. What about when they are 60, though? With a 30 year old ?

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