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    What a setlist!... Made me jealous of those who saw this era live. Great sound… like ‘77 was yesterday. @derekb192 on 10/1/77, YouTube

    Wow! Just as when you think eyes is gonna go to drums out of the bliss comes dancing! One of my all time fave moments! Not just classic 77 but classic ever dead! - @emrysdavies1215 on 10/1/77, YouTube

    ...this show was off the hook from the very get go. The Casey Jones is the best I've heard... beginning a jam that goes through each member going off on an instrumental solo. The end has them jamming so hard you can no longer hear them singing through it. Now you know you're in trouble (The Good Kind) when a show starts like that... Weirtheir on 10/2/77, Dead.net

    Holy hell, the 10/2/77 Betty Board sounds incredible... I just wanted to pay homage to this unreleased gem, which features the lovely, tight playing you'd expect of a 77 show with some of the highest audio quality I've ever heard ... What a treat. u/monsteroftheweek13 on 10/2/77, Reddit

    I told my mother I was going into Portland with friends. I never told her where I went... @jamesmoore3694 on 10/1/77, YouTube

    We know where you've been and we're taking you back with the twice as nice DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 45: PARAMOUNT THEATRE, PORTLAND, OR - 10/1/77 & 10/2/77. Back-to-back complete previously unreleased shows on 4CDs? You betcha! Why? Because we couldn't pick one over the other of these two nights that have been described as "fire," "mind-frying," and "crispy" (bit of a theme here) too many times to count. Witness it for yourself when you dig into the inventive medleys and pristine sound, not to mention the first "Dupree's Diamond Blues" since '69 and the first live "Casey Jones" since '74.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson (with a boost from Bob Menke, more about that in David's video) and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

    *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • #311
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    Anniversary show 3/28/84. Marin Veterans Auditorium

    39 years ago today, I saw the Grateful Dead put on a great show, at the tiny Marin Veterans Auditorium. It was the first show of 1984.

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    Dennis: Yes, let's drive them nuts with requests! We don't know what we don't know, so tell us already. If 45 and MSG have not sold out yet, they will, eventually. WMG is not going to lose money, how they guide their program must take us into account. I did not buy the trunk, could get by with 6 or 9 of those shows, they were available for a long while by the each direct from dead.net, picked a few off. Never designated as numbered or limited, now harder to find at 3x price, thankful for the help of friends. WMG could reissue selected Europe 72 shows and they would sell well. Found a simple easy resource to quickly show whats been released officially, through #45, search on deaddisc or GDFD Dead by Date. Chronological and incremental, easy to scan periods/eras, telling us stuff we already know but might have forgotten. SIXTUS: well said, nothing I could add to that, other than my thing, followed them since age fifteen, 55 years now at 70. Did not get over to Rutland for recent DSO, did previously thank Rob Eaton in person for all his crucial work for the archives... JRAD at Jay Peak in August.

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    The more I think back on all that the GD have done, one of the real enticements and awakenings for me at the beginning of this musical journey – once I realized that the recordings were ‘out there’ to find and consume – was the very real and tangible difference in their sound as I ventured across the years of their output. Indeed, the sound of this band, and rightfully so, morphs tremendously over the three decades they all made music together. We all know the general reasons for this, from the burgeoning and relatable hold that rock and roll had on the initiating generation, to numerous personnel changes which literally forced the sound to change (i.e. Pigpen’s passing, Mickey in/Mickey Out/Mickey In, the subsequent ‘Spinal Tap-esque’ revolving keyboard slot, etc.), to of course the addition and/or retraction of various mind-altering substances, as well as the inevitable wear and tear of the ravages of time on band members themselves.

    For a band to have existed for 30 years, it would be really difficult for them not to morph and change with the times given all of the circumstances. But I guess what has really hit me recently, especially after starting to listen more intently to other, newer bands on the upswing, is how much of the Grateful Dead music I reference in my mind as attributable to a particular time, or era. We all know that 66-69 GD is its own special beast. And that 70 was it’s own nuanced moment too. As was 71, then into 72 and the fabled tour, coming back and going into 73 and 74; the sound stays the same but also subtly shifts more toward the jazzy and open-ended. Then the hiatus and return, and once again they had reinvented their sound and approach to a lot of the music. Onward through the 70’s things shifted yet again, culminating with the end of the decade, another roster change, and the music now being played much faster (and arguably less exploratory) which permeated much of the 80’s until Jerry’s brush with death. They got another reboot, and things sort of calmed down as they headed off into their last half decade or so but they morphed yet again with the advent and inclusion of MIDI, love it or leave it.

    I guess what I am saying is that when I think about Grateful Dead music, I immediately think of a year or collection of years (i.e. The Era) in the context of whatever it is that I am referencing. I always have in my mind when listening or thinking about The Good Stuff, the inseparability of the band and the year the music in question or in thought is referring to. Because when you talk about the music, it is always tied to a year or to a performance and thus bringing with it the nuance of that time period, the good, the mundane, the transcendent. Thinking about the GD at different points of time throughout their career provides me with variances in appreciation that I honestly cannot say is received from many other bands, or even Things, for that matter. The fact that the Grateful Dead, on the whole, really need to be considered in their totality when thinking about them or honing in on any one thing, is fairly unique. In retrospect, I’ve been listening to the GD since I was about 13 years old. I’m now in my 50th year. That’s literally a lifetime! I know it pales in comparison to many others’ exposure, but what it has taught me is a really neat expose on longevity and creativity and how these guys continued to keep things new and fresh as a result of who they were and the changes that were forced upon them.

    Be Well People.
    Sixtus

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    DMCVT - list of vault

    Maybe they don't produce a list because we would drive them nuts about what to do next. We do anyway,,, but a list would make us whine even more! :-)

    .... yeah, where is that last FW69 vinyl?!?!?! :-)

    sidebar - VMP is putting out a box set of Miles Davis. 350 bucks, 7 electric albums. One of the albums (on the corner) is a record store day buy. Box looks nice, may have to pass or wait. Those unemployment blues! :-)

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    One of my most favored "moon" songs... just listen how JJ creates such a deep groove that swings in a few seconds. That sweet laid back guitar. I would buy an Ark box in a heartbeat. If they have been listening at all, we are way overdue for a primal/primal transition box, a late 60s Bay Area box, et al. How about publishing an inventory of whats in the vault? And where, oh where, is the final vinyl for FW69??

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    Ledded - I liked your post titled Dark Road. To me, the country blues of the 1920's and 30's also has a supernatural quality. The fact that the recordings are often quite crackly adds to this feeling of mystique - you really do feel as though you are listening to music from another dimension. Some of the mythology adds to the vibe - Robert Johnson selling his soul to the devil, Peetie Wheatstraw A.K.A The Devils- Son -In -Law. But the power is in the grooves. Scores and scores of great and otherworldly recordings.

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    I'm not sure years are always the best way of thinking of eras with The Dead. For me, what I think of as primal Dead started when Mickey Hart joined around September 1967. They seemed to be on a continuous, thematic run of creativity from then until they started introducing Working Mans Dead songs, around May 1969. Not that the creativity dried up - it just started shifting, gradually, into another dimension. Looked at like this, that whole era, from late 1967 until mid 1969 - one of the most creative periods in their ( or anyone else's) career, has been completely overlooked in the Dave's Picks series. Even the 1969 shows released in the series so far have been outside this period.
    So, to cut to the chase - high time we had a release from late1967- mid1969!

    I don't think I would buy a 1990's box - maybe if it was Europe 1990, as I was there for three of them. That would be the selling point, I guess, for 80's-90's shows -people would be tempted to buy them just because they were there at the time.

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    Ark us!!....

    ....that would sell out in six hours.
    I know EVERYONE here would buy it.
    The women aren't always smarter 😉

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    Who Knows?? Not Me.

    We know Wake of the Flood will be released with (hopefully) some live ‘73 stuff. We know about Dave’s 46 (can’t wait!!) live ‘72.
    The optimist in me says surely’71 for the box?!?!
    Not a chance. My guess is ‘85, ‘87 or ‘91.
    Or….maybe another 1 venue cornucopia.
    Whatever it is, I want it/gotta have it.

    Last 5:
    Beyond Description-Bonus Disc (sweet!!)
    Zappa-Mudd Club ‘80
    Jeff Beck-There And Back
    Jackson Browne-Hold Out
    Dick’s 11-Disc 3 (Dark Star- 31 minutes!!)

    Music is the Best!!

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    Nice imagery Ledded.

    As for the box.. I'm not getting a 90's vibe. We have St Louis, then MSG.. so early 70's then early 80's. Neither were multi track. Something of higher sound quality or perhaps some 73 to celebrate a half century.

    I have to think there are a few boxes containing 1" thick reels of magnetic particle coated acetate sitting in the vault waiting to be heard. I'm a little bit surprised there was not more push back on the last box being pulled completely from cassette masters. I enjoyed that box primarily because the years are not very well represented, and shows were strong from the era.. but compare it to say July '78 and it was a big step down in sound quality.

    I think there will be some pressure to step things up, and if there isn't there should be. Or maybe.. (hope I'm wong), they have to scale back on the boxes or they will lose their specialness among what's being released. The last box set was something like $189 I think, during a time of economic instability.. well.. I don't think they want a dud. They really have to step it up a bit.

    All this is moot, however, they surely are well beyond the selection process. Let's hope they selected wisely.

    I do think at some point they have to give us a 68 show or a composite of partials/shorter shows. Geeze Dave.. look beyond the banana boxes, perhaps you will find an orange crate (hint, they're bigger).

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What a setlist!... Made me jealous of those who saw this era live. Great sound… like ‘77 was yesterday. @derekb192 on 10/1/77, YouTube

Wow! Just as when you think eyes is gonna go to drums out of the bliss comes dancing! One of my all time fave moments! Not just classic 77 but classic ever dead! - @emrysdavies1215 on 10/1/77, YouTube

...this show was off the hook from the very get go. The Casey Jones is the best I've heard... beginning a jam that goes through each member going off on an instrumental solo. The end has them jamming so hard you can no longer hear them singing through it. Now you know you're in trouble (The Good Kind) when a show starts like that... Weirtheir on 10/2/77, Dead.net

Holy hell, the 10/2/77 Betty Board sounds incredible... I just wanted to pay homage to this unreleased gem, which features the lovely, tight playing you'd expect of a 77 show with some of the highest audio quality I've ever heard ... What a treat. u/monsteroftheweek13 on 10/2/77, Reddit

I told my mother I was going into Portland with friends. I never told her where I went... @jamesmoore3694 on 10/1/77, YouTube

We know where you've been and we're taking you back with the twice as nice DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 45: PARAMOUNT THEATRE, PORTLAND, OR - 10/1/77 & 10/2/77. Back-to-back complete previously unreleased shows on 4CDs? You betcha! Why? Because we couldn't pick one over the other of these two nights that have been described as "fire," "mind-frying," and "crispy" (bit of a theme here) too many times to count. Witness it for yourself when you dig into the inventive medleys and pristine sound, not to mention the first "Dupree's Diamond Blues" since '69 and the first live "Casey Jones" since '74.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson (with a boost from Bob Menke, more about that in David's video) and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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In hell English do the cooking, the policemen are French, Italian organize everything, German do the entertainment and …Swiss do the shipping.
Anyway collecting dead shows is no more a merry prankster thing.

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Submitted by BedHead77 on Wed, 02/08/2023 - 09:01

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Never enough 77.
(whispers)
Never...

Though more of the under-represented years would be nice (if the PB&J are listening).

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Wed, 02/08/2023 - 10:31

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Harem Scarem. RGM reissue from 1991, never been on vinyl.
Never heard of them. Any thoughts?
Some connection with this album and a TV show.
Cheers, eh?

RV3's new series of releases "Brent's Picks"?

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Submitted by billy the kiddd on Wed, 02/08/2023 - 12:12

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March & December, still some good music left.

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Submitted by daverock on Wed, 02/08/2023 - 12:24

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Sheik- I like that line about how the English do the cooking in hell. They could also manage the railways and decide what the drug laws should be.

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Submitted by simonrob on Wed, 02/08/2023 - 13:13

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The Dutch would be responsible for administration.

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Submitted by BedHead77 on Wed, 02/08/2023 - 14:55

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Winterland 77 March/December would be a nice haul for sure.
Likewise the remaining Palladium 77 run.
A do-over 5/22 full show release would be swell as well.

Also, an October 74 Winterland box.

Also...

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Submitted by Cousins Of The… on Wed, 02/08/2023 - 15:27

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10/9 and 10/10 would make a nice two-fer. Great auds of both days available on the Archive.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Wed, 02/08/2023 - 16:08

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In the last 15-16 months, 9 Brent shows have been released.
MSG Box
DaP 40, 44

2 more shows with DaP 36.
And the Giants Stadium Box a few years ago.

There is no shortage of Brent releases.

There is a shortage of Bruce releases.

There is a shortage of video releases.

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The View From The Vault Series gave us some Bruce plus video.

Dave/Rhino,
Time for more video.
Thanks for 6-17-91 on Blu-ray, but don’t stop there.

We need all the video from:
Oct. 74, Oct. 80, European tours, Alpine 89, Tinley Park 90.

Then some selections from 91 starting with Soldier Field.

Thanks in advance.

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Submitted by Angry Jack Straw on Wed, 02/08/2023 - 18:16

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without a shipping issue, I’ve had to endure two debacles in a row.

So DaP45 finally arrived today. I have been listening to it all evening.

Remember the scene in the movie Big where all the executives and Josh (Tom Hanks) are meeting to evaluate the merits of the new company toy. At the end of the discussion Josh meekly raises his hand and says, “I don’t get it.”

That’s how I feel about this release.

....I'm not going to mention any names, but how about some 1991-1995?
Guess most of them wouldn't cut the mustard, but I saw plenty of shows then, and I recall some being pretty damn good.
A Vegas Box would be much welcome.
Throw in some dice and playing cards. Limited to seven come eleven of course.
One can hope!
The Sphere is being lit up btw. Test runs.
Edit....what don't you get AJS? Why it was released at all? 🤔
I'm open to a discourse.

Ha...

I have mine but have not had the opportunity to listen. I reserve the right to resurrect my view on 1977 GD upon my listen. 77 shows remind me of my supermodel ex-girlfriend. Practically perfect yet somehow not altogether satisfying.

I'm sure it's absolutely killer. First world problems to be sure.

As you were.

Edit: I really have nothing against '77 GD. When I am in the mood it does magic.

Saw a few really solid shows between 91-95, with 10/19/94 at MSG being one of the best.

Was psyched that they released the Feels Like>Bertha from that show as part of this year’s 30 Daze line up.

The 10/1/94 Boston gig they included in the 30 trips box is also pretty fab.

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Submitted by Angry Jack Straw on Wed, 02/08/2023 - 21:07

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Sir James probably summed it up best. It’s oddly unsatisfying.

There’s nothing bad about it, but there’s also nothing overly exciting about it. I thought that even the sound quality was just average.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 02/08/2023 - 21:50

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I'd simply like more '68, '69 and '70.

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Submitted by daverock on Thu, 02/09/2023 - 01:11

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A live concert can be enjoyed at the time of being there, but that doesn't mean it would make a satisfying recording.
Actually, that applies to releases from all eras, from all bands. But it was posts from people who enjoyed Dead shows between 91-95, and suggested some of those be released that reminded me of the fact.

It works the other way round, too. Some live shows I have been to I haven't enjoyed - but listening to recordings of them later, I realised they were better than I thought they'd been. Even Jerry commented on this phenomena- I think it's in The Dead Movie he recalls not liking their performance on 2/14/68 and throwing Phil down some stairs as a response. He listened to them later, and found them to be... "crackling with energy" I think was the phrase.

From my vast experience of going to Dead shows, I would say there was hardly any relation between being there and listening to live recordings.

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Submitted by sheik yerbones on Thu, 02/09/2023 - 01:13

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"in Hell": this story is very "cliché". I heard it on a richard Thompson Dvd, maybe 2000 years of pop music...
Yesterday I was a bit annoyed cause I spent time on the phone and car to get this package. Things have changed since the elephant administration...4 or 5 years ago? I felt like paying tax for a boxset for two shows.

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Submitted by sheik yerbones on Thu, 02/09/2023 - 01:33

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it depends of the mood you are in. But most of gd recordings are great, even the 82 cassettes. (dickP32)
If you listen Dylan 's fragments bootleg series vol 17, you can measure the greatness of gd recordings. I had to listen live cd4 more times to appreciate, but there's nothing like the other studio takes. the Dead has built the best show catalogue of all time.

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Submitted by Forensicdoceleven on Thu, 02/09/2023 - 01:39

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Hey rockers.............

My parents used to say, "If you can't say anything good about something, don't say anything at all". That's why I'm here not saying anything about anything...................

Portland? Don't get the buzz about all that, but we got our annual 77 so let's move on. But not on to 91-95. Some February 1973 would hit the spot...........

Heaven is my current wife, hell is my ex-wife, purgatory is alimony.............

Rock on,

Doc
If your parents never had children, chances are you won't either......

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Submitted by Dennis on Thu, 02/09/2023 - 06:49

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Dead releases are like Texas weather, don't like it, wait, it'll change.

There is something for everyone, but everyone won't like everything.

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Submitted by PT Barnum on Thu, 02/09/2023 - 08:18

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RIP Burt Bacharach
What the World needs now is Love as true today as the day he wrote it.
Via Con Dios so many tunes from out yesterdays

Lurking lately, now catching up again after last weekends deep deep freeze here in Vermont. Live about 50 air miles from Mount Washington and was paying close attention to the extreme weather, cause there's new plumbing in my unheated, fortunately below grade marginally insulated basement. It was 21 below zero last Saturday morning with 35 mph gusts that night, very happy to be earth sheltered. But all that pales infinitesimally to the tragic situation in Turkey. So though #45 was here, was not in the mood to begin paying attention until now, have not yet completed a first run. First impression was very good to excellent recording, Donna in a good place, agreed it seems a bit drum forward, seems to be slight emphasis on mid bass such there is slight percussive effect not noticed on most other recordings. This is a very minor observation. Glad to have these shows tidied up, good fun, obviously not peak 77. Easily distracted by other posts, totally agree with Oro that when the Dead went to Macintosh power amps, audio was cleaned up by a factor or at least 10X... love those old Fender tube amps when they are run right but there was tube abuse, those 6L6s, EL84s etc output tubes pushed so hard, ran so hot, their distortion figures must have been above the 1-2% range. Now to video, though the VftV series is here along with other commercially released vids, had never thought to look for the June 21, 1971 Chateau d'Herouville show and was pleased to find it this morning on utu be. House party on the lawn. Bit rough and raw, hand held cameras, for such a location, the audio is good and there's an excellent Hard to Handle, pig in fine form. Worth checking out.

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Submitted by billy the kiddd on Thu, 02/09/2023 - 08:59

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50 years ago today I wasn't at Maples Pavilion up in Palo Alto. ( I'm sure I was doing something that was just as fun), but my brother was there and he had a blast!. This show would make a great release.

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Thu, 02/09/2023 - 09:26

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when Doc and Dennis just handled it all.

Except, what about Jer on Disc One?? He's ripping!

Haven't spun the shows yet. Just dipped toe. More toes tonight.

Arrived this morning. Good to see it in the flesh, as it were, after having looked at it's picture so many times on the board. I have only played the 1st cd, and I did enjoy it - crisp and clear with plenty of energy. It's neither more nor less than I was expecting really. Possibly a bit more. One of the benefits of reading negative reviews is that it lowers the bar a bit, so that when I do get to hear the offending show, it sounds better than I was expecting. When everyone praises a show it sometimes gives it too much to live up to. And when I do eventually get round to listening to one of those, I can then think that it's not as good as everyone says it is.

Curiously the "Promised Land "-"They Love Each Other" openers appear to be soundboard recordings on my old bootleg. The Promised Land suddenly cuts out after a minute, though.

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Thu, 02/09/2023 - 13:46

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I have absolutely no idea how May '77 Cornell became so revered. It sounds/plays like the least interesting show in that run. Real good show. No standout.

Just two cents to augment what daverock said.

From what I've heard so far, I'm going to really enjoy the new pick and not worry how it might be assessed by others. As for ranking shows, I don't have the brain cells to spare.

Most likely because it was the first high-quality soundboard recording that was widely available to the masses. It got everybody hooked. Thank you Betty.

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Submitted by BedHead77 on Thu, 02/09/2023 - 14:17

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This part. Exactly.

First tape I ever owned.

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Submitted by deadmike on Thu, 02/09/2023 - 14:17

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Yes, this time Dave's Picks arrived in Växjö in less than two weeks!

Got it yesterday, on February 8th, and listen right now to the second CD (second set from October 1st). Good music even though shows from 1977 seems to be a little over-done by now.

I would appreciate more bits and pieces from fall 1966 to 1970 and maybe not as a Dave's Picks volume, I would appreciate a release of June 9-10, 1973.
I have a framed poster above my stereo / TV furniture with a photo of Weir, Lesh and Garcia from one of those shows. Bought it in San Francisco in August or September 1986 and have had it on different walls since I got home to Sweden again. The show from June 10 was one of my first tapes I recieved early in 1985 after having a tape traders ad in the last issue of The Golden Road fanzine in 1984.
But I would prefer something much more superior in sound quality by now. :-)

Well, anyway I'm pleased and grateful for a delivery faster than the seven or eight weeks I normally have to wait for a new DP volume! :-)

Micke Östlund,
Växjö, Sweden

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Submitted by Forensicdoceleven on Thu, 02/09/2023 - 15:55

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Just for the record, I've only ever had one....................

In regards to Cornell, it was definitely NOT one of the first high quality boards available to the masses. That's a myth, there were lots of other high quality things----including early stuff. That being said, it WAS one of the first high quality 77s to enter wide circulation. But as many more 77s came out---including the shows right before and right after----some of the luster came off Cornell.

I think Cornell is similar to Veneta---it's one of those "you had to be there" types of things. And, like Veneta, good show, but one of the great great overrated Grateful Dead shows.

Just one man's opinion.......

Rock on,

Doc
He who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead; his eyes are closed......

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Submitted by itsburnsy on Thu, 02/09/2023 - 16:15

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Does anyone else hear a muffled voice, like someone on a phone or behind glass say "He's just talking to 1A, come on back." during Black Peter, right at 6:45? Did it come from the disc, or did my computer pick up a nearby call or something.

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Submitted by Charlie3 on Thu, 02/09/2023 - 16:28

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Who cares? It either moves you or it doesn't. If it moves you listen again, if it doesn't then move on to something that does. I like some of these picks more than others, but I want them all. I don't have any list of desired releases, and although I love to see shows that I attended released, they are not necessarily the releases that I go back to most often. Really, I just want shows with good sound quality, songs presented in order, and beyond that it is all subjective. One person's good release is another's ho-hum release, which is pretty clear from this thread. I like to listen to a wide variety of music, with a good chunk of it Dead, but there is so much music to listen to, and my enjoyment depends not a bit on how folks rank it.

Burt Bacharach had a ton of great stuff, including some fantastic stuff covered by Isaac Hayes that really hits the spot - Walk on By from Hot Buttered Soul, The Look of Love from ...To Be Continued, and They Long to Be from the classic Black Moses album, some really classic stuff best played a little loud on a good system. Or maybe a lot loud.

Yes, I've just heard it on "Black Peter" too. I think this show, 10/1, is pretty good overall. Some great guitar playing throughout.
I wonder also if shows like Cornell and Veneta gained a reputation because of strongly expressed and publicised opinions affirming their superiority in earlier times. And those opinions became reinforced by others until they became perceived as fact. John Dwork wrote pages and pages about Veneta in The Taping Compendium, whereas some shows on the European tour were summed up in a few paragraphs. Granted, they may not have had the full tapes for some of the European shows, but the impression given is that Veneta is the greatest show of the year - if not of all time. Maybe articles like that, blow shows..like that...out of all proportion.

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Submitted by musicnow on Thu, 02/09/2023 - 17:25

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Oh, it's there on the disc. It freaked me out when I first heard it in my car zoned in on the commute to work!

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Submitted by LedDed on Thu, 02/09/2023 - 18:13

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This release to me felt like an old broke in pair of jeans the first time I listened to it. It feels comfortable and makes me feel good. I've listened to it all four or five times now, minus Let it Grow and Cassidy which I generally just do not care for. Bah! Humbug! How dare he.

I have a Nash T52 Telecaster which arrived, brand new, heavily relic'd. I liken this release to it. The guitar played like butter right out of the box like an old friend I just met. I had never heard this show before, but it's what, 46 years old? Older is usually better with cars, wine, whisky, guitars, Dead shows. Hell, my wife is 50 and I wouldn't even trade her for a 20 year old. ;-p

Just a matter of taste I guess. Love this release and can't wait for the next one.

Peace everyone... well, almost.

\m/

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Submitted by proudfoot on Thu, 02/09/2023 - 18:24

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Ho
Lee
Phuc

I give up on y'all

I really gotta quit coming to these posting thingies....

Cornell

Great sound and the greatest orgasmic Morning Dew of all time

"You told me goodbye
How was I to know
You didnt mean goodbye
You meant please
Dont let me go"

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 02/09/2023 - 19:55

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....I like the '83 Santa Fe shows. Like. A lot. Definitely whatever rated lol.
I'm just here hoping for a Dave's that is numbered under four digits. One day.
And LedDed. I wouldn't trade my 50+ year old wife for a 20 year old either.
She's hotter and smarter anyways.

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Submitted by Charlie3 on Thu, 02/09/2023 - 20:07

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Hey, Nineteen
No, we got nothing in common
No, we can't dance together
No, we can't talk at all
Please take me along, when you slide on down

Yngwie Malmsteen - Relentless
The Flaming Lips - At War With The Mystics
GD - 10.2.77 Portland, OR
The Cult - Love
Deep Purple - Deep Purple In Rock
List works imo....

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 02/09/2023 - 21:40

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....Yo La Tengo just dropped a record. Like, forty minutes ago.
Yessssss

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Submitted by daverock on Thu, 02/09/2023 - 23:57

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It always strikes me as ludicrous when people think they have nothing in common with others who disagree with them. The commonality lies in the fact that people understand each other, not that they agree. If I told my neighbour that I thought Veneta or Cornell were overrated, she would neither know nor care what I was talking about. If I said the same thing on here - I'm not assuming anyone would care - but at least a lot of people would understand what I was saying. Whether anyone agreed or not would be interesting to me - but not divisive.

Ledded - that Nash tele sounds alright. I wouldn't mind seeing a picture of that.

I am sure the 50 year old wives find it reassuring that they wouldn't be swopped for 20 years olds. What about when they are 60, though? With a 30 year old ?

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