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I thought the same thing about peak, and downsizing offerings, maybe not yet but some time in the future. Dead&Company still working as an awesome marketing machine, and it gets the sunshine makers a new audience.

BTW, I went back in January and watched the 12/31/1977 show on the tube. A great show, as discussed here, starts off and then explodes.

Also, 12/31/1981, someone posted about the crazy guitar tones Jerry was putting out on Shakedown. They are awesome tones for sure and another great show to watch on the tube.

Glad to see folks are coming out of that massive water fest of the last few weeks,

Take Care!

G

Gary - you might be setting the bar a bit high, expecting to remember the exact comments made on stage by David Crosby 37 years ago. I think I'd be happy just remembering the fact that I'd been there. If I had, obviously.

I am from Nantucket. Why?

Gary - I’m the one who posted about 12/31/81. I had never seen that video before either and found it to be awesome. Glad you enjoyed it

Cornell - last weekend was too warm to ski and too wet to rollerblade. So, after all the posts regarding Cornell I decided to jump in the car and take a ride to Ithaca. I listened to the second set on the drive. It’s been years since I’ve listened to that show and equally as long since I’ve been to Ithaca. First stop - Barton Hall. It’s a dump. The outside is far nicer than the inside. There was a fencing tournament being held. Not wanting to pay admission I asked the two ushers if they knew why the building was famous. The woman responded that it was an airplane hanger during the first World War. That may be, but it doesn’t make it famous. I said the Grateful Dead played hear back in 1977. The male usher got all excited while the female walked away. He told me that there was a guy here last week saying the same thing. He said that he used to go to concerts here back in the day. Joe Jackson, the Allman Brothers, etc. I asked how he liked the Allmans. “I can’t remember. I was high as fuck. Go on in and look around.”

Anyway, back to the concert. I’ve been on record many times saying that I prefer 5/7 and 5/9 to the Cornell show. However, after listening to the Cornell show again, I’ll have to rethink that. My preference for the other shows is probably due more to the fact that I played Cornell so much, I got sick of it. The Scarlet>Fire is nothing short of glorious. As is the Morning Dew and all the songs between the two of them. So while I am not willing to concede that it is the best show ever, my verdict?

Overhyped? Yup.
Overplayed? Yup.
Overrated? Nope.

Many years ago I received what was probably my favorite birthday gift of all time. A T-shirt that read, “I am the man from Nantucket.”

Going to go play Infidels now. Well done with that post.

....that wasn't me. Proudfoot perhaps?

Larry Graham.

Can I please get some damn help here please I have not yet received my dates ticks 45 it’s February 17, 2023 I had a notification from the post office in Carlsbad ca on February 3rd saying that it was there and then they said disregard …where in the hell is my dave’s picks 45? I don’t see any phone number I don’t see any email address to accommodate me on this floor at the beginning of the year and the first of the four 2023 daves picks somebody help me out! I was really anticipating this for some strange reason at the start of the new year like this is not good.! So please somebody jump in And give this poor boy hand! This has never happened before!

No, that's not good. But Marye has helped me out with every issue of this sort that I have had over the years with deadnet - so I wouldn't give up hope. If she doesn't respond to your message on here, maybe drop her a pm.

I see a Miles Davis album is coming out also.

Vguy - I wondered about 140 grams also ?!:-)

(like coffee, the cans still the same size, but doesn't hold a pound of coffee anymore)

140 micrograms?

Whenever I see a great item is getting released exclusively for RSD, like this rare unreleased Miles Davis offering, it’s always a huge “sigh” from me, because I don’t collect vinyl.
Unfortunately, if I do, it becomes Pandora’s Box, and we all know where that leads.
I hope you can get your hands on a copy Dennis. On The Corner was an important piece of Miles’ electric phase.

PS - I played Disc One of DaP 45 again this morning, and it always amazes me the sound Jeffrey Norman can coax out of tapes almost 50 years old. Kudos.

....I hear that. Using utmost restraint not to continuously bust out my credit card for vinyl.
Don't do crack kids.

Keith and Donna's last show at the Oakland Coliseum.
A real fine show, with a great set list. I was there, and most likely so was Billy The Kid(I think he's the one I asked for a bite of his Little Lucca meatball sammie, mid set - delicious)

VGuy - You totally get it with vinyl. Better sound, perhaps MUCH better sound, is pretty enticing, but vinyl prices are “Adult Dosage”, and at first I might start carefully, only buying “Desert Island” albums, real keepers, but then pretty soon, I’d be taking a flyer on some new band that doesn’t sound so great after two listens, or deciding I need every album Ray Charles put out on vinyl, etc etc.
I’ll continue to live viscerally through
Dennis’ awesome collection!!

Please send me a PM with your order details and I'll ask the Doc to see what's what and make it work right. So sorry for the trouble.

....checking out the Umphreys McGee show from The Capitol 10.20.17. WOW. Great show. Awesome cover of Toto's Africa in there. Getting stoked for next weekend 🍻.

44 years ago today Cousins and I were up in Oakland to see Keith & Donnas Last show with the Dead, and what a knockout of a show it was!. This show needs to be an official release, put it out with 4/22/79, Brents first show.

There's a rule I try to follow when it comes to vinyl purchases: no double dipping. If I already have the music on CD, and the seedies sound good, I try to resist the temptation to buy the vinyl reissue. Hence I have no plans to get the vinyl versions of DaP 23 or Boston '77.

Just to state the obvious: the audio isn't going to sound better on your home system just because it's vinyl. It might, or it might not, depending on the quality of your turntable vs the quality of your CD player, the quality of your phono preamp, quality of the vinyl, blah blah blahbitty blah. All things being equal, if it's the same mix from the same source, and your turntable and CD player are roughly equivalent quality, it's going to sound the same, trust me.

Or at least that's what I tell myself, as I try to keep Pandora in her box.

Random GD -related thingy: I was playing a bunch of Brad Mehldau videos on Youtube last night, checking out his new album, which is all Beatles tunes. (Do yourself a favor and consume the video of him playing I am the Walrus: it's fucking genius.) After a while I switched to a live performance where Mehldau is playing at a festival in France. After the first two songs (a nice version of Bittersweet Symphony that segued into (I shit you not) Smells Like Teen Spirit) he removes his sport coat, and underneath is ... a Grateful Dead t-shirt! Aw, Brad, I knew you was one of us.

I screwed up, thinking about Umphreys McGee got me thinking about the Humpty Dance. You got that right. But the song, I didnt. I was speaking of Bootsy Collins, of Parliament Funkadelic and before that James Brown. An incredible bass talent. The song I got confused was "Groove Is in the Heart" by Dee Light. Got those confused as they were both on MTV around the same time...I got a little lost. Sorry. Although, it is interesting, as I also saw Larry Graham when he played bass for Prince in 1998. What an incredible show indeed, and I am not a huge Prince fan. But those two together were quite funky. One reason I love a great funky Shakedown, although most of the funk come from Jerry instead of the bottom.

Oh well, oooopss.

Nice fun fact about that song, the bass line, played by Bootsy is a whole step down (making it sound slower) from the original Bring Down the Birds, played by bassist extraordinaire, Ron Carter. It was a song by Herbie Hancock on the Blow Up soundtrack in 1966. Very influential British film and soundtrack, which also featured the Yardbirds in the Jeff Beck and Jimmy Page era with them appearing in a scene playing Stroll On. It wasn't released in the US until 1968 and its scandalous sex scenes led to the introduction of the rating system.

The 5/7/77 RSD release was inevitable, hope the 3/2/69 is not too far behind. But it will be nice having those 3 shows on vinyl. Cornell sounded great on vinyl. Now I'll have Wharf Rat and Terrapin, and that great Peggy-O. Speaking of '77, finally finished DaP 45, and it's a good one, definitely drum heavy as noted, and more disappointingly, other things would seem to drop, mainly Bob's guitar and vocals. Oh, and may have missed it, but didn't see anybody noting the Lazy Lightning Jam in Let It Grow. It pops up twice. Supplication Jams seem more common, never heard that I recall a Lazy Lightning Jam, it took me a bit to register whatbit was, because it made me think it was related to the "Listen to the Thunder shout 'I am!'" part. Really liked the classical sounding figure Jerry did at the end of the Scarlet Begonias, he plays a theme, then a variation on it, then another sort of progressing ahead before they drop into Fire On the Mountain. Wharf Rat was excellent, sounded like significant tape degradation/warble at the end though. Oh, and Phil's intro for Samson & Delilah is great. I think it was DaP 25 11/6/77 where Weir introduces is with, "This being a Sunday, we're gonna do a song of spiritual derivation." This intro is even better, almost as wacky as the Jones Gang on Dap 12 11/4/77, though the king has to be DaP 27 9/2/83 with the citizens of Boise being asked to submit to being a conquered people by our beloved bespectacled bassman. But to DaP 45, a good selection. One I'll note has no thanks to ABCD Enterprises, so a couple of Betty Boards that have been there all along. Think that's the first such Betty since July '78 started the deal in 2016. And instead of being done with '77 for a while, I queued up 4/25/77 next. With the drop in Dead vinyl, I may be able to get that one for a reasonable price. I once almost had one on ebay for $150, but lost it to an auto bid. So, that will have been a few weeks in 1972 and 1977, think I'll throw caution to the wind and go for 1974 for my next excursion. After all, a whole bunch of 1973 is headed our way this year, methinks.

Edited to add: to Crow Told Me, I get your point on the double dipping, but it does genuinely seem to have a different feel to me, if it does come with the frustration of flipping it every 20 min. But it's worth it for some recordings. 5/3/72 sounded so good, I played the whole damn thing in one sitting after planning to sample a couple of songs that day it came out. I hope that doesn't put in any crack's in Pandora's Box for you, but I don't discount the vinyl warmth as a myth as easily, because I can hear it. If you can't that may excellent news for your wallet. :)

....is not helping my decision making decisions.

DARK STAR

....we aren't very good. But we're working on it. It's fun though.
Need more girls.

I am more tempted by doubling up with Dicks Picks on vinyl than Daves. I always think that because the Dicks were released on cd so long ago, the chances are that newer vinyl editions will have an improved sound quality that might not be as noticeable on Dave's vinyl.
Having said that, I never check it out. And I only have a few Dicks on vinyl because they aren't on general release in England and are often prohibitively expensive. I have Dicks 8 -5/2/70 on vinyl and that is amazing. Dicks 26, excerpts from 2 shows in April 1969 is a good, too, although much less played. I have been looking at Dicks 19 just this morning - and the two October 1976 shows from Days On The Green. But we are talking hundreds of pounds for a show I already have. RSD shows are more affordable.

I generally like vinyl more. Maybe it's my age. I don't mind the side changing - if anything it helps me to focus on what I'm listening to more -I'll maybe just play 2 sides at a time. Later in the day - in the early hours of the morning - when I am drifting in and out of sleep - I play cds - but that is much less focussed listening. More like spacy background music.

Vguy so glad you liked the 10/20/17 show!! Enjoy next weekend's show

I currently have no plans for the DaP 23 1/22/78 vinyl. It's a good show, raging Jack Straw and somehow Row Jimmy rocks more than usual, and that's one side itself. 16 seconds of Close Encounters Theme is a bit more than the Stayin' Alive tease a few months later that led to DaP 7 4/24/78, but much ado about very little, to me. There are probably 20 DaPs I would've picked for vinyl release over this one. It is kind of funny, the two with space-themed movie cover art kick off the series, but I thought the DaP 1 choice was perfect, mainly because that was a much cheaper way for some of us to get a physical copy of that one than ebay.

Set one is phenomenal

Dont look at the set list

Be warned though...
37 minute lovelight (ugh...some other time perhaps)

First 5 tracks or so...verrry nice GD

My GD69 bender will continue with 11 8 69 and the compilation FW Feb 69 and 12 31 69

GOD BLESS THE GRATEFUL DEAD

Lady in front of me gives DOB

"2/14/68"

My mind goes straight to GD Carousel Ballroom

CBS coverage just went to commercial with Estimated.
"California, knock knockin' on the golden door".
Did not expect that from CBS.
Cheers

On Friday I had a drive and listened to most of DaP 42 (2/23/74) and then this afternoon, while slow sipping a North Coast Imperial Stout, enjoyed the second set of DaP 13 (2/24/74), during which I picked up on Jerry echoing the And We Bid You Goodnight encore from the night before during the GDTRFB coda. Nice to bring it around full circle!

As to this release, the October 2 is so, so good. Even if the Casey Jones sounds more like JGB than GD ;-D While the show doesn't top DeKalb, remains my close second for the tour.

Should have given here my number...

....who cares. I got mine. And that's what matters.
CBS putting out GD soundbites fivebranch? Very nice.
Seems they are taking lessons from Fox Sports.
Lady in front of PF is two months older than me. Gen X.
Got a new phone today. It was vinyl or a desperately needed upgrade. I'm fancy now.
Speaking of slow sipping, I scored something called Kentucky Tangerine Dream Ale today. Aged in bourbon barrels. Dangerously tasty.
Love the Tangerine Dream reference. It was the better Legend soundtrack for sure.

THEN I will know something is up.

GD72

yes

Oh

Happy anny to 2 18 71

The "Beautiful Jam and Debuts" show

What a fantastiic song. " Nothings for certain , it can always go wrong".

....a lot of people say he is a better man than a president.
A lot of people are stupid.
I mean, look around lol.

It's been said before, but it may be a good time for deadnet to do some sort of survey to find out what people would like to see released. There are a comparatively small number of people who contribute on here, and most seem in favour of Dave's Picks as it is, with each release getting a standing ovation. So it might be more telling to hear from the people who didn't buy it....and see why and what they might be enticed into buying.
None of the last three releases , from the early 80's, 1977 and 1978 have exactly flown off the shelves. If 1972 does - would that mean they should just focus on that one year? It might be my favourite year...but even so, not really a positive sign for things to come.

Thanks for giving me a reason to pull out my copy of Herbie Hancock’s Blow Up soundtrack.
Mrs. Ones keeps telling me that I have too many cds, and I keep trying to tell her that too many cds is not possible. The discussions on here constantly remind me to either dig through my collection, or that it’s time to buy something.
I’m not sure how I feel about the “not sold out” issue. If they’ve sold out up to this point, it’s obviously a good production model. When they sell out right away, that tells me maybe they should have made more. There seems to be a fine line between making just enough and making too many.. I don’t think deadnet/Rhino are going broke anytime soon.
And while our numbers may start to dwindle in the near(ish) future, I believe the future of live Dead releases should be healthy for some time to come. So:
Herbie Hancock, to be followed by some Cannonball Adderley, and after that, who knows??
Music is the Best!!

It's alright to be a better man than a president, I've always thought Jimmy was one of the "good men" to serve, did he do great, maybe, but he was always a good man. I wish him and his good luck to this day.

Vguy back in my day of "office softball" if the batter knocked over a fielders beer,,, they were out!

Also you mention Toto and Africa. I paraphase my father in law. A gentleman is someone who knows how to play "Africa" and doesn't :-)

Next three hours...

Bub buh-buh buh-buh buh-buh

I KISST THE RAAAINS DOWN IN AAAFFRRRRICAAAA!!!!

sigh

One of the most hilarious skits from BITD, Ask President Carter.
Jimmy on a talk show with a phone in caller who is too high on acid.
References his being a nuclear scientist and the Allman Bros.
Jimmy gives the caller excellent advice (from experience?).
Classic SNL. Best wishes to Mr. Carter and his family.
Cheers

1stShow, I caught that Estimated fade to commercial as well, and was just slightly surprised, they look for California song hooks as the west coast swing draws to a close. Tiger Woods silly prank forgottten, that approach he hit into the first green to make eagle was spectacular. Riviera is special place, fortunate to play the course many years ago with basketball star Lynn Shackelford who was a member. Lynn's son Geoff, golf historian was the avenue but could not play that day due to injury. Fred Couples was out on the course just ahead of us, unforgettable visit. And yes indeed, after multiple runs, 10/1 really does seem to have a bit too much mid bass emphasis on my system. 10/2 not so much. Grinning and bearing with it. Both these shows seem like near effortless cruising in top gear, the band's in fine shape.

Jerry’s incredible talent as an artist was captured in book form before, but that publication - Jerry Garcia: The Collected Artwork - went out of print. Good news, it is being re-issued (re-published?), and I’ll definitely grab a copy this time. Such an amazing and inquisitive mind, and quite an accomplished artist. There are a number of truly excellent and exceptional artists in Music, Joni Mitchell, Bowie, Ron Wood, Dylan, etc, among them. The book looks to be reissued in April, as well as a pending Dylan art book for a decent price, as his “regularly” issued art books, through a London publisher, are out of this world expensive.

Mr Ones - Cannonball is always a great choice - may I recommend the (fake) live album “Mercy, Mercy, Mercy”, which prominently featured the great Joe Zawinul, the machine behind Weather Report? A classic album.

Years ago we had softball and bowling teams at a previous job I had, girls and guys, and it was an absolute blast. It was really the best way to socialize as friends. The only thing that ruins these things is the person who forgets these are for fun, and they line up at bowling boasting they are “Lane Gretzky” at bowling, and never bowl less than 300. Yea, sure. Baseball, same thing.

As for Jimmy Carter, I have no opinion on him as a politician because I am not an American, but he certainly is a decent and charitable human being, and I think that alone is a life’s accomplishment. I once worked on a Habitat project, and I get why he and his wife embraced that initiative.

That is one sweet 60s soundtrack. really nice Sunday morning listen. vaguely familiar with the film from many years ago because based on a Julio Cortazar story but did not realize Herbie Hancock did the score, with some Page/Beck Yardbirds thrown in to boot. Wish I could hear some of those themes jammed out 4, 5, 10 minutes. Bring Down The Birds reminded me of Modereko. There's a nice BDTB cover by Funkallisto. And nextthing I know I got served up Chameleon. Need to revisit the Jimmy Carter sketches from SNL.

Just played Weather Report's self-titled first album yesterday.
A direct extension of his Miles Davis In a Silent Way/Bitches Brew era with other Miles collaborators Wayne Shorter and Miroslav Vitous too. The very avant-garde early W.R. before their more percussion based later works. Next up their (2nd?) I Sing The Body Electric.

DMCVT you lucky dog. Riviera! Home of the stars. Good read with Riviera in it - The Mysterious Montague, a true tale of Hollywood, golf, and armed robbery by famed sports writer Leigh Montville. My favorite golf book. And Tiger is proof you can change your swing. Totally different and still awesome. Then again, he's had to do this every time he wrecks his body and the work he puts in is staggering.

BC - Missed Herbie's set at Telluride Jazz fest (2006?) but heard Chameleon and Vein Melter in his sound check while getting in a round of disc golf at lunchtime at work that day. The course winds around the stage and up Firecracker Hill and back to Bear Creek Falls. Priceless!

Edit: After seeing That Mike's post above I'd better add Herbie Hancock's V.S.O.P. (on Columbia) to today's listening list. The 1976 Newport Jazz Festival's "Retrospective of The Music of Herbie Hancock" which the liner notes indicate it's purpose was not so much to pay tribute to one musician, but to enable a group of great musicians to play together. Three different groupings of world class jazz artists including Freddie Hubbard, Tony Williams, Ron Carter, Wayne Shorter, Bennie Maupin, Eddie Henderson, Wah Wah Watson, Buster Williams, Ray Parker Jr. and more. Thanks guys, I forgot I had this 2-LP.

Cheers all

1st Show - Weather Report was a great fusion jazz band, one of the best. Impressive and world class musicians - I mean, Zawinul and Shorter alone were incredible, but also Jaco, etc - and a great library. For those who want to check them out, I highly recommend the 4 CD release “Forecast: Tomorrow”. By the way, Zawinul had some good solo releases, and I highly recommend his first one.

Everyone talking here about Herbie Hancock, I have his Columbia box set - 34 discs - that I have to pull out and spin some music. Gold.

A shout out to Col- Oro - ado! Long time no hear, Amigo. How are things in the hills of Colorado?

Funny guy

The Cars - Stir It Up
Umphries McGee - it's you
Phish - Alpine Valley 8.12.22
The Interrupters - In The Wild
Bob Weir - Ace
Stumbled across a 1979 playlist on Spotify. 1978 - 1982 was my formative years re music. Lots of good stuff in those five years.
10 year old me found a Beatles record in our hallway closet. 1978. I remember because we moved into a new house in 1977. Discovered metal in 1983.
And here I am.

I am looking forward to them

:)))

Animals 2018 remix on BluRay, listened to the 5.1 surround mix, then the 2018 stereo mix, then the 5.1 again, then changed systems and listened to the 5.1 again, and while reading other people's reactions, I found out about the 2016 5.1 mix of Meddle that was slipped secretly into first runs of the big $550 Early Years Box Set. When they broke it down to individual year boxes, the 1971 box had had the bonus Meddle removed, but some kind soul has pisted it onto the youtubes and a simple search of Pink Floyd Meddle 5.1 will find it, and can play the playlist and have the whole album. It's great, even if a lesser compressed sound quality. But that's beside the main point: this Animals remix is absolutely terrific! Firstly, it's like James Guthrie turned the snare drum on 40 years later, as the drums went from dull to bright and driving. He even added some gated reverb on the drums for specific parts in Sheep and Dogs, and, as much as I hate gated reverb on snare drum, this is incredibly well done. (And probably more like what Peter Gabriel had in mind with the tasteful use of gated reverb, not dominating an entire decade needlessly with that horrid sound on soooooo many songs and albums through the 80s.) The bass sounds incredible, particularly the Pigs part by Gilmour. Guthrie has it sit in the mix in the surround and stereo mixes as a prominent, but not overpowering thing, with full sliding notes that Phil would love hearing, and, like the 5.1 mix of Have a Cigar, some phaser is now evident on the bass, which is more muscular and funkier. The guitar work on Dogs and Pigs is sublime, and sounds far better than it ever has, and I can't understand how David Gilmour would let a petty dispute over liner notes delay the release by four years, delaying by four years people hearing some of his most magnificent guitar work in its full glory. (One also wonders why that 5.1 mix of Meddle was pulled and not released. It was intentionally done after the mix was made.) I made this impulse purchase last night, and it was delivered at 12:30, just 20 bucks. The SACD seems to range for 40-60. Either way, glad I finally gave in and snagged this one, it is astoundingly good.

Edited to add: glad to hear people breaking out Blow Up. I used to play Bring Down the Birds as a warm up exercise before gigs along with Bob Marley's War and In the Hall of the Mountain King. So groovy, one can see why Dee-Lite and millions of people dug it when they got Bootsy to play it. The movie comes on TCM occasionally. Oh, and I once saw Herbie Hancock opening for Dave Matthews Band. I heard Chameleon start, and I asked one of the 25 people in the crowd who was playing, they said, "Somebody called Bernie Hancock or something." "You mean Herbie Hancock?!" Even at 18, I was sad for the lack of crowd for Herbie. By the end of his set, he had pulled people in from the parking lot in Charlotte and maybe a few thousand were grooving to the legend that began as a pianist for Miles Davis, then became the pioneer of funk and synthesizers. 25 years ago, I was happy I got to see a legend opening for Dave Matthews. Most of that crowd had no clue what they missed.

....with two letters in-between.
Just stating the obvious.

I associate Herbie Hancock mostly with the so called second great quintet of Miles Davis. The incredible rhythm section he was a part of with Ron Carter and Tony Williams." ESP" and "Miles Smiles" are the stand out ones for me. I also like the solo albums he made with Ron Carter and Tony Williams - "Maiden Voyage" and " Empyrean Isles". A few years since I have played those two, mind.
"Blow Up" is great film - I never associated it with Herbie Hancock, though. More a picture Of London just as psychedelia was emerging. Maybe I should dust that one off n' all.