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    What a setlist!... Made me jealous of those who saw this era live. Great sound… like ‘77 was yesterday. @derekb192 on 10/1/77, YouTube

    Wow! Just as when you think eyes is gonna go to drums out of the bliss comes dancing! One of my all time fave moments! Not just classic 77 but classic ever dead! - @emrysdavies1215 on 10/1/77, YouTube

    ...this show was off the hook from the very get go. The Casey Jones is the best I've heard... beginning a jam that goes through each member going off on an instrumental solo. The end has them jamming so hard you can no longer hear them singing through it. Now you know you're in trouble (The Good Kind) when a show starts like that... Weirtheir on 10/2/77, Dead.net

    Holy hell, the 10/2/77 Betty Board sounds incredible... I just wanted to pay homage to this unreleased gem, which features the lovely, tight playing you'd expect of a 77 show with some of the highest audio quality I've ever heard ... What a treat. u/monsteroftheweek13 on 10/2/77, Reddit

    I told my mother I was going into Portland with friends. I never told her where I went... @jamesmoore3694 on 10/1/77, YouTube

    We know where you've been and we're taking you back with the twice as nice DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 45: PARAMOUNT THEATRE, PORTLAND, OR - 10/1/77 & 10/2/77. Back-to-back complete previously unreleased shows on 4CDs? You betcha! Why? Because we couldn't pick one over the other of these two nights that have been described as "fire," "mind-frying," and "crispy" (bit of a theme here) too many times to count. Witness it for yourself when you dig into the inventive medleys and pristine sound, not to mention the first "Dupree's Diamond Blues" since '69 and the first live "Casey Jones" since '74.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson (with a boost from Bob Menke, more about that in David's video) and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

    *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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    Yes the Deluxe Edition of Santana III with the 2nd disc concert is da chit, as is Caravanserai...and if you don't have it grab Lotus (Live In Japan)...excellent as well...I saw Santana late '74 once and Neil & Gregg also opened as Journey....a few years ago I took the Mrs to see the reunion of the Santana III band do a complete three hour show at The House Of Blues, Las Vegas...Michael Shrieve, Gregg Rolie & Neil Schon were included and it was a great show...poor editing on the CD release messes up that show...the DVD is pretty unedited...this was when Santana IV came out a few years ago...

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    Ever hear of the band Dogs In A Pile?....

    ....now you have!

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    I'm glad you mentioned that Legacy Edition of the third album. I didn't know about that - the one I have came out in 1998, and feature just 3 bonus tracks from the Fillmore West 7/4/71. The whole of this seems to be included in the Legacy Edition. Very inexpensive too - it should be arriving tomorrow.
    I notice there's a similarly styled edition of first album out there as well - with The Woodstock show included on the 2nd disc. There's probably one of Abraxas like this, too.

    I haven't heard Caravanserai ever on cd - so that's well overdue for me. No bonus tracks on that from what I can see - and none needed.

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    Hey David Lemieux

    If you could please release the Complete Winter land Oct. 1974 run on CD and video, it would make all of us people around here who pay the rent very happy . Thanks David.

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    Daverock I agree, Caravanserai is a great album, which I played over and over also. It was the last album with Greg Rolie, and Neal Schon before they left and founded Journey. It features great playing by Schon. It also has a somewhat rock opera feeling, as songs and instrumentals flow into each other. This album had quite a few instrumentals. Here's a little description from Wiki:

    Caravanserai is the fourth studio album by American rock band Santana, released on October 11, 1972. The album marked a period of transition for Santana as it was the band's last to feature several key early members, while shifting in a more instrumental, progressive jazz fusion direction.

    BTW what a coincidence, I just ordered a Legacy copy of Santana 3 yesterday!

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    Yes, Abraxas is also a good album. Another one is Caravanserai, which my brother had back when we were teenagers and didn't have many albums - so played what we did have to death. Neither of us had anything else like Caravanserai.
    They were quite popular in mid 70's England, Santana. Possibly due that incendiary clip of them playing at Wood stock, which was still doing the rounds at this time.
    I also remember when he hooked up with John McLaughlin and appeared to have converted to follow the guru Maharishi, I think he was called. There were followers of that in my world too, although it didn't appeal to me at the time. The album they cut, "Love Devotion and Surrender" is not for the fainthearted.

    Actually, I can also remember Santana was supposed to be coming over to England with The Dead..in 1978...I think to do a show at Wembley. If I remember rightly, it got cancelled as The Dead were in the process of organising the trip to Egypt.

    Fast forward to the early 90's, and I went out with someone who had a copy of "Supernatural". I was surprised he was still going. It sounded okay...but it didn't grab me like the earlier ones. I definitely preferred it to Nirvana, which was another band she liked at the time.

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    Jack - An awesome choice for a jersey, very classic, and a very creative choice to personalize it. Europe ‘72 - brilliant.
    Take heart, the Wings are a team on the way up, a lot of progress this year. They’ll be in the mix soon. It could be worse - 1967 is a loooong time ago!

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    I still try to rememeber my first ten Lp, just remember the very first , Stones "Satanic Majesties Request". Then more or less the others not in order;..
    But Traffic "Welcome to the canteen" was in the list. I still have " Shoot out the fantasy factory" in vinyl.
    I agree with Santana 3, but "Abraxas" is the best.

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    ....so, my cousin is an Avs fan and never shuts up. He has a PhD in talking smack. I love him, but he is an expert in pushing buttons.
    He's also a Broncos fan. It was fun watching him make excuses regarding Wilson last season. Suck it Steve and own it.

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    As a Capitals fan, who was born outside of Boston (dad was a Bruins fan), I personally would love to see the Maple Leafs win a cup.
    Why?? I have an affinity for the “original 6”.
    They haven’t won a Cup since ‘67 (I believe), and their fans effin’ deserve it!!
    So let’s go Leafs!!

    I’m starting to get pangs of desire for Dave’s 46. I guess we have another 6-7 weeks. The waiting IS the hardest part.

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What a setlist!... Made me jealous of those who saw this era live. Great sound… like ‘77 was yesterday. @derekb192 on 10/1/77, YouTube

Wow! Just as when you think eyes is gonna go to drums out of the bliss comes dancing! One of my all time fave moments! Not just classic 77 but classic ever dead! - @emrysdavies1215 on 10/1/77, YouTube

...this show was off the hook from the very get go. The Casey Jones is the best I've heard... beginning a jam that goes through each member going off on an instrumental solo. The end has them jamming so hard you can no longer hear them singing through it. Now you know you're in trouble (The Good Kind) when a show starts like that... Weirtheir on 10/2/77, Dead.net

Holy hell, the 10/2/77 Betty Board sounds incredible... I just wanted to pay homage to this unreleased gem, which features the lovely, tight playing you'd expect of a 77 show with some of the highest audio quality I've ever heard ... What a treat. u/monsteroftheweek13 on 10/2/77, Reddit

I told my mother I was going into Portland with friends. I never told her where I went... @jamesmoore3694 on 10/1/77, YouTube

We know where you've been and we're taking you back with the twice as nice DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 45: PARAMOUNT THEATRE, PORTLAND, OR - 10/1/77 & 10/2/77. Back-to-back complete previously unreleased shows on 4CDs? You betcha! Why? Because we couldn't pick one over the other of these two nights that have been described as "fire," "mind-frying," and "crispy" (bit of a theme here) too many times to count. Witness it for yourself when you dig into the inventive medleys and pristine sound, not to mention the first "Dupree's Diamond Blues" since '69 and the first live "Casey Jones" since '74.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson (with a boost from Bob Menke, more about that in David's video) and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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I dont remember being amazed

But soul sacrifice in movie Woodstock?

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....Las. Vegas. 1991. Bird Song. Slot machine drumz. You toob has it.

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I was at 8/26/88.. my only WA show.

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I only saw him once, in 1991, at a two thirds full Wembley. I wasn't that impressed, really, but it might have been me - I was miles away from the stage. I would rather have seen the original band - that show and song list SimonRob mentioned from 1970 looks more the ticket.

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1970 release would be cool. 10/31/70 , apparently the master reels have been found, 9/20/70 that would be a knockout with that acoustic set and there could be all kind of good things in those banana boxes.

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Hello all. One more month until the Bonus Disc release. Have they released a track list yet?

I saw Santana once in the 90s. They were opening for someone, maybe Jethro Tull. Years getting long, memory getting short. I was in the first 10 rows and they blew the doors off the place. I only a couple of songs, but when you're that close it's hard not to be engaged, so I think Daverock, you may have been too remote to catch the vibe. I am sure they must have been much better in their youth in 1970.

RV3, the lack of sellout is due to higher production numbers and a new eBay tax law that has made it impossible for resellers to be profitable. It has little to do with which years they're focused on. I wrote a more detailed report about on this thread, maybe a week or two after this Dave's Picks went up for sale. That being said, 1977 is somewhat exhausted, but 1972 is always going to be a big one. The point is that it doesn't matter what year the release is from. 25K units will no longer sell out overnight.

10/31/70? Yes, I would like this show. Any show from 1970 would be welcome.

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I’m really enjoying Jerry’s incredible skill on the pedal steel guitar on the various “Wheel” outtakes on the Rhino reissue of his first album (Garcia). It’s not Jerry playing Louvin Brothers country heartache steel playing, but much along the lines of the passages he played on Kantner’s “Blows Against The Empire” album. Absolutely stellar. I once read a description of the song “Have You Seen The Stars Tonight” where the writer said something to the effect that Kantner & Crosby’s guitar was the engine propulsion, Grace Slicks piano marked the journey, and Jerry’s steel sounded like celestial bodies as the spaceship passed them.
Sometimes they bottled lightning at some of those recording sessions, many at Wally Heifer’s studio.

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Got the Dark Side of the Moon 50th box last night. What a box,,, really a work of art. Should win some award for box.

I saw an unveiling video on youtube if interested. (and you can find it, found it last night can not find today!)

Oh, and it was 35 bucks cheaper than when ordered!

Dreading - yes, I am sure you're right about the distance from the stage having an effect. The same thing happened when I saw Page and Plant about 1998 at Wembley. We needed binoculars to see the stage. On both occasions, it felt as though I was watching a live gig - both performers and audience - from outside. To the extent that I don't really feel as though I actually saw Santana live - even though I was in the venue when he played once.

Even so, by this time, the name "Santana" referred to an individual, not a band - and it was the original band that I liked.

Was fortunate to see Santana a few times including Woodstock 94. CNEwith Macy Gray in 2001 I think. Still good but focus was more on the popularity of the new album etc.
Yes 80s/90s it was different than 1969, imagine that, but I’d say in those days NOBODY was better then than Santana, the ABB, and the Dead. All playing as well or better than they ever did! Every show I saw by each of them was amazing!
Favorite might have been at the tiny original amphitheater at Darien Lake. Up close, small crowds, gently sloping grass lawn, sunset over the lake behind the bandstand . Top shelf where mama hides the cookies!

Go Leafs!
K nigits looking tough…

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Ribs & Chicken, Beer. Pliny The Elder,,, Music. , Rolling Stones, 1964 to 1971, next up Best of Muddy Waters, beautiful day here in the Bay Area, we get a break from the rain for 2 days.

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Saw Floyd on the Division Bell Tour from the 700 level at Vet Stadium (the infamous yellow seats).

We were so high up and in the wind that we thought Astronomy Domine was some kind of intro music over the PA. Couldn't quite see the band on stage because we were to the side a bit. Eventually they turned up the volume, but never again I said (and I haven't).

Interesting Dreading. Makes sense about the sellout factors. I unloaded a bunch of stuff on eBay before, and it was bad then. But I see now you have to report profits on tax return. I don't think too many people are sucking up subscriptions any more.

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Saw him play twice and both in the early 90s. One was summer of '92 at an amphitheater of about 7000 and Phish as opener (Santana and Trey trading licks remaining quite the memorable treat). To my ears, Santana never expanded from the style he developed in the late 60s/early 70s, which places him more into role of ring leader rather than front man. Which is fine as he does it very, very well. Just listen to some of his Montreux Jazz material. I think he's always been okay with doing his thing, as limited as it is, and then stepping aside to let the next guy shine. Respect for that.

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My first Santana show was right after their first album came out, and was getting a lot of airplay. It was my only time going to the Fillmore West, during their Sept 10-14 1970 run. I was 16, and my Dad took me and my friend Doug, along with our dates, from Redwood City to the show, waiting outside for it to end. We sat on the floor and smoked some pot. I was moved by the loud music and the light show, and it was an a-ha moment for me, I was hooked.

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....and check out Into The Garden's 3.9.81's China Cat. Fuckin Brent and Jerry just going off!! Good stuff.
Spun Santana III last night. Thanks for the tip!
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Tip of the hat to BTK for mentioning The Best of Muddy Waters in his play list. I haven't got that particular album, but I have also been listening to music by the great man on the various compilations I do have from 1948 onwards. Incredible music. I wish I could find that album "Hoochie Coochie Man 1952-1958 Chess Masters" double on Hip-O-Select for a reasonable price. I've got the two compilations from Hip-O on either side of this one, and they both sound superb.

Horrible coincidence - I put Muddy Waters on the cd player first thing this morning, switched on the T.V. and was confronted by pictures of his birth place, Rolling Fork. Unfortunately there seems to have been a hurricane there in the last 24 hours, causing much devastation. Mississippi was described as the poorest State in the U.S.

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There is an early 1980s Muddy Waters release titled "Hard Again" which I highly recommend. Great stuff it is!

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Blah blah blah so thought today bout picking band now this is just how feeling right now:

Drums: John Bonham (Led Zep)
Bass: Cliff Burton (Metallica)
Guitar: hehe please Jerry Garcia
Vox: David Bowie

Then thought Chris Cornell for vox, Ann Wilson, Bono... ? Then maybe thinking like Bonham but how bout more versatile player Phil Collins or Dave Grohl? Bass: Sting /Tom Araya? Tons second/third guitar: David Gilmour / Mike Mcready, The Edge?

Anyhow was listening to 8/13/1975 maybe need some more sneaky Blues For Allah luv the crickets and a 1986 choice pick for a daves???. Tool Pushit: Be safe love your neighbor and dig the music never stops...

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Later I saw Santana at the Mountain Winery in Saratoga, we had 10th row on the floor for that show, and I taped it. Also saw him on that tour with Phish, at Cal Expo, my first Phish show. Don't remember Santana sitting in with Phish. I do remember remarking that Trey had a fair amount of Santana licks of his own. Saw the original band reunion show at Shoreline, and Santana's original band with the Dead in Tacoma, WA in 1988. Santana pretty much blew the Dead away at that show. I know, I know, apples and oranges.

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Mention of Santana not collaborating with Phish reminded me of this great track he cut with John Lee Hooker, round about 1990. The studio version is beautiful, and they also play a great version of it on The Tonight Show hosted by Jay Leno - there on youtube.

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....I don't believe either band sat in with the other. But that was huge for the boys from Vermont. They started gaining huge traction that year. Phirst heard them in west coast GD lots that year also. Kept hearing about them by word of mouth. By 1993 they were playing much larger venues. Source? I kinda like them. Got my 50th and 51st Phish shows coming up in Hollywood next month. Phirst outdoor Phish shows in over a decade. Probably Festival 8 in 2009. Phirst time traveling out of state to see them since then as well. Hoping it warms up by then. Hasn't hit 70 degrees here in Vegas yet, and the 10 day forecast is saying it won't either. Unheard of.
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Santana did sit in for Funky Bitch and YEM and maybe another. It's when they played Vermont, 7-25 I think? Since it was their home, he also let them play a longer opening set. I also remember reading somewhere how trey(maybe the band?) stayed with and Santana and was impressed that he still took out his own trash, haha. Santana also had the the comment about how he saw phish as the hose watering the flowers of the crowd

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....yup. Santana coined that phrase regarding showering the fans with the good stuff. Now I need to seek out that show.
Need to filter out machine gun Trey. He was relentless at times then.
Carlos was probably tripping when he saw/heard that. All good. I also have some good quips when I'm under the effects of the psychedelica.
Things tend to expand. Then contract. Then it eventually meets somewhere in the middle.
Under a little shroom influence now.
So it all makes perfect sense.

DReading's comments are on point. The releases are still relatively strong, the latest 69 release is especially high caliber GD. Years, sound quality and specialness of shows do matter but so do the other market factors that tug and pull at their subscription model. I could care less if these things sell out, so long as the quality is good I will still subscribe, others will come and go as they choose.

It's probably been 7 or 8 years since I compared 1977 dead to my supermodel X girlfriend.. after a while perfection is just not so perfect after all. I bet next year '77 will not be the in the pole position. With the GD, perfection was more a side effect than the goal. The goal was looking for something not yet discovered.. something new. Often they never got there but when they did, they knew it and knew what to do with it.

Google Rick Rubin and Grateful Dead, there's a gem of an interview there and he says this much better than I ever could. Is 1977 top tier GD, yes, absolutely.. but if every show was 1977... I would have been done with this band a long, long time ago. They are that good and that interesting but why would they be content with just one sound or one series of ideas? The journey is the reward, not the destination.

There has never been a 1968 Dave's Pick. Just saying. When this happens (and it will) I won't be terribly concerned if it takes a long time to sell out nor surprised if does the first hour. It doesn't matter (anyway). I'd like to see new shows get released well into my retirement 🙏. One day.. however.. they will change things up. All good things in all good time. (did someone say 1968?)

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....yeah Boi!
Been in the freezer for a minute.
Back then, they used to thank the peeps running the merch stand while playing live. Cool. Acapella and secret language cues. Also cool and mad respect looking back.
And Jim is correct. There has never been a Dave's from my birth year.
Wtf Lemeaux. Your surname is all vowels then an X. Pronounced eww.
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I guess you had to be there.
The Dead did first though.
Laid the framework.
And here we are.
Went with 5.3.93. Phish in Jersey. Hurricane Sandy relief. Cool again.
A live concert experience is one I'll never get tired of.

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Maybe the concern about Daves Picks not selling out is that it obviously indicates less demand for them. if that is the case - will the series continue ? Maybe it's had it's day, and it's time for a new approach. There must be a point where so few people buy them that it's no longer viable to carry on releasing them.

This morning I listened to some more Muddy Waters on my weekly car journey to the shop, from around 1960, when Pat Hare was in the band. With that out of the way, I got home and carried on with The Dead's show at Newcastle 4/11/72. Where I had left off, with "Next Time You See Me". It was uncanny how similar it sounded to the Muddy Waters band I had just been listening too.

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I think its going to be something from the 1990s,, that's not what I'm hoping for, but that's what I think it will be.

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Walking down a dark, gravel country road, very late at night. Owls and spirits. Completely alone. Scared? No. Could be though. Nothing like that feeling of imagination running wild. We never walk alone, we are always accompanied by the spirits of the dead, the haunted... but walking around the pedestrian shopping mall at noon on Saturday in the bright sunshine is sure as shit a lot different than 2 am in the country. You don't feel a presence then, unlike the dead of night when the air is thin.

Born on the Bayou... Evil Ways, Black Magic Woman (it was all the Santana talk that brought me into this space). Healing Chant, Yellow Moon by the Neville Brothers. Dr. John, Gregg Allman... Willie Bobo "Fried Neck Bones and Some Home Fries." Wow.

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Nice imagery Ledded.

As for the box.. I'm not getting a 90's vibe. We have St Louis, then MSG.. so early 70's then early 80's. Neither were multi track. Something of higher sound quality or perhaps some 73 to celebrate a half century.

I have to think there are a few boxes containing 1" thick reels of magnetic particle coated acetate sitting in the vault waiting to be heard. I'm a little bit surprised there was not more push back on the last box being pulled completely from cassette masters. I enjoyed that box primarily because the years are not very well represented, and shows were strong from the era.. but compare it to say July '78 and it was a big step down in sound quality.

I think there will be some pressure to step things up, and if there isn't there should be. Or maybe.. (hope I'm wong), they have to scale back on the boxes or they will lose their specialness among what's being released. The last box set was something like $189 I think, during a time of economic instability.. well.. I don't think they want a dud. They really have to step it up a bit.

All this is moot, however, they surely are well beyond the selection process. Let's hope they selected wisely.

I do think at some point they have to give us a 68 show or a composite of partials/shorter shows. Geeze Dave.. look beyond the banana boxes, perhaps you will find an orange crate (hint, they're bigger).

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We know Wake of the Flood will be released with (hopefully) some live ‘73 stuff. We know about Dave’s 46 (can’t wait!!) live ‘72.
The optimist in me says surely’71 for the box?!?!
Not a chance. My guess is ‘85, ‘87 or ‘91.
Or….maybe another 1 venue cornucopia.
Whatever it is, I want it/gotta have it.

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Beyond Description-Bonus Disc (sweet!!)
Zappa-Mudd Club ‘80
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Jackson Browne-Hold Out
Dick’s 11-Disc 3 (Dark Star- 31 minutes!!)

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....that would sell out in six hours.
I know EVERYONE here would buy it.
The women aren't always smarter 😉

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I'm not sure years are always the best way of thinking of eras with The Dead. For me, what I think of as primal Dead started when Mickey Hart joined around September 1967. They seemed to be on a continuous, thematic run of creativity from then until they started introducing Working Mans Dead songs, around May 1969. Not that the creativity dried up - it just started shifting, gradually, into another dimension. Looked at like this, that whole era, from late 1967 until mid 1969 - one of the most creative periods in their ( or anyone else's) career, has been completely overlooked in the Dave's Picks series. Even the 1969 shows released in the series so far have been outside this period.
So, to cut to the chase - high time we had a release from late1967- mid1969!

I don't think I would buy a 1990's box - maybe if it was Europe 1990, as I was there for three of them. That would be the selling point, I guess, for 80's-90's shows -people would be tempted to buy them just because they were there at the time.

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Ledded - I liked your post titled Dark Road. To me, the country blues of the 1920's and 30's also has a supernatural quality. The fact that the recordings are often quite crackly adds to this feeling of mystique - you really do feel as though you are listening to music from another dimension. Some of the mythology adds to the vibe - Robert Johnson selling his soul to the devil, Peetie Wheatstraw A.K.A The Devils- Son -In -Law. But the power is in the grooves. Scores and scores of great and otherworldly recordings.

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One of my most favored "moon" songs... just listen how JJ creates such a deep groove that swings in a few seconds. That sweet laid back guitar. I would buy an Ark box in a heartbeat. If they have been listening at all, we are way overdue for a primal/primal transition box, a late 60s Bay Area box, et al. How about publishing an inventory of whats in the vault? And where, oh where, is the final vinyl for FW69??

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Maybe they don't produce a list because we would drive them nuts about what to do next. We do anyway,,, but a list would make us whine even more! :-)

.... yeah, where is that last FW69 vinyl?!?!?! :-)

sidebar - VMP is putting out a box set of Miles Davis. 350 bucks, 7 electric albums. One of the albums (on the corner) is a record store day buy. Box looks nice, may have to pass or wait. Those unemployment blues! :-)

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The more I think back on all that the GD have done, one of the real enticements and awakenings for me at the beginning of this musical journey – once I realized that the recordings were ‘out there’ to find and consume – was the very real and tangible difference in their sound as I ventured across the years of their output. Indeed, the sound of this band, and rightfully so, morphs tremendously over the three decades they all made music together. We all know the general reasons for this, from the burgeoning and relatable hold that rock and roll had on the initiating generation, to numerous personnel changes which literally forced the sound to change (i.e. Pigpen’s passing, Mickey in/Mickey Out/Mickey In, the subsequent ‘Spinal Tap-esque’ revolving keyboard slot, etc.), to of course the addition and/or retraction of various mind-altering substances, as well as the inevitable wear and tear of the ravages of time on band members themselves.

For a band to have existed for 30 years, it would be really difficult for them not to morph and change with the times given all of the circumstances. But I guess what has really hit me recently, especially after starting to listen more intently to other, newer bands on the upswing, is how much of the Grateful Dead music I reference in my mind as attributable to a particular time, or era. We all know that 66-69 GD is its own special beast. And that 70 was it’s own nuanced moment too. As was 71, then into 72 and the fabled tour, coming back and going into 73 and 74; the sound stays the same but also subtly shifts more toward the jazzy and open-ended. Then the hiatus and return, and once again they had reinvented their sound and approach to a lot of the music. Onward through the 70’s things shifted yet again, culminating with the end of the decade, another roster change, and the music now being played much faster (and arguably less exploratory) which permeated much of the 80’s until Jerry’s brush with death. They got another reboot, and things sort of calmed down as they headed off into their last half decade or so but they morphed yet again with the advent and inclusion of MIDI, love it or leave it.

I guess what I am saying is that when I think about Grateful Dead music, I immediately think of a year or collection of years (i.e. The Era) in the context of whatever it is that I am referencing. I always have in my mind when listening or thinking about The Good Stuff, the inseparability of the band and the year the music in question or in thought is referring to. Because when you talk about the music, it is always tied to a year or to a performance and thus bringing with it the nuance of that time period, the good, the mundane, the transcendent. Thinking about the GD at different points of time throughout their career provides me with variances in appreciation that I honestly cannot say is received from many other bands, or even Things, for that matter. The fact that the Grateful Dead, on the whole, really need to be considered in their totality when thinking about them or honing in on any one thing, is fairly unique. In retrospect, I’ve been listening to the GD since I was about 13 years old. I’m now in my 50th year. That’s literally a lifetime! I know it pales in comparison to many others’ exposure, but what it has taught me is a really neat expose on longevity and creativity and how these guys continued to keep things new and fresh as a result of who they were and the changes that were forced upon them.

Be Well People.
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Dennis: Yes, let's drive them nuts with requests! We don't know what we don't know, so tell us already. If 45 and MSG have not sold out yet, they will, eventually. WMG is not going to lose money, how they guide their program must take us into account. I did not buy the trunk, could get by with 6 or 9 of those shows, they were available for a long while by the each direct from dead.net, picked a few off. Never designated as numbered or limited, now harder to find at 3x price, thankful for the help of friends. WMG could reissue selected Europe 72 shows and they would sell well. Found a simple easy resource to quickly show whats been released officially, through #45, search on deaddisc or GDFD Dead by Date. Chronological and incremental, easy to scan periods/eras, telling us stuff we already know but might have forgotten. SIXTUS: well said, nothing I could add to that, other than my thing, followed them since age fifteen, 55 years now at 70. Did not get over to Rutland for recent DSO, did previously thank Rob Eaton in person for all his crucial work for the archives... JRAD at Jay Peak in August.

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First things first...

Sixtus...great post. Years vs. eras (vs tours...)...spot on! Top companies re-invent themselves over time to remain relevant. During different years/eras, listening to different interpretations of the same song has attracted me to the band since.

I digress.

Dave's 46 September 9, 1972. Well, I cannot say I was there but I was for the following night. I started to see the Grateful Dead late one night (or, actually, early one morning) after I went to a party in early 1971 and a friend of mine offered me something small and orange ...said I would like it ( I did!)...and a bunch of hours later i'm home and put on Live Dead...Dark Star. That was the real introduction for me .

First time I actually saw the Dead was June 17, 1972 at the Hollywood Bowl...Pig's last performance. (I think some of you who post were there too!). While it was a fine show, it really had not fully hit me. Here comes the Hollywood Palladium shows in September. A couple of friends of mine and I went to the 9/10/72 show. Wow!!!

IF my memory serves me...opening act was a bluegrass band called High Country. They came on at 7:00 pm and they were great. The Dead come on somewheres around 8:15-8:30 or so with a wonderful first set. A long, fabulous Bird Song is about all i can recall. We were towards the back of the floor at the Palladium...festival "seating". During the break, we moved up front and ended up around 10 feet from the stage in front of where Garcia would be. Second set started. As the music played the band, Garcia just seemed to be smiling, looking into the audience. We would smile, Garcia would grin, nod his head and, I'd swear, look at each of us directly on the eye. Probably too may recreationals but i know he was looking at us. (actually, all of us) We noticed behind the speaker bank on our left was a crew member rolling joints. One of my friends said, upon closer inspection, "doesn't that look like David Crosby?" Hmmm...couldn't be.

Well, as we all know now, during that "era", one nights The Other One was the next nights Dark Star. And it was. The band went into Dark Star and a bit into it, some other musician was on stage...between Bill and Keith with Phil bobbing around. It was David Crosby! The band did not mention his presence to the crowd, he left the stage before the end of Dark Star...geez. Garcia smiled all the way through it!

Show ended at 1:00 am. Staggering out, we all looked at each other and wondered if what we just experienced really happened. The bus really came by and I really got on...

I will be looking for the September 9, 1972 Hollywood Palladium show...and my order will be in.

Thanks, Dave. And, thank you, to the other regular posters who generate such wonderful content. I do not post often, but I do check the site daily.

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Sixtus - good stuff, I also like noticing the the ups and downs ( more the ups) as the Dead wended their way through the years. I was listening to the Newcastle show from 4/11/72 last night, with that incredible Truckin'-Drums-Other One jam. It's amazing how they redeveloped The Other One around this time. And it was not as though it ever sounded as though it needed redeveloping in it's earlier incarnations. The first side of "Anthem Of The Sun" is a psychedelic masterpiece. If you watch a documentary of the Haight Ashbury in the mid 60s', you could turn off the commentary and listen to anyone of The Other Ones from 1968 in it's place. On through it's maturation during 1969 to the rock powerhouse of 1970, and then this one I heard yesterday in 1972, which defies categorisation. So far away from how it sounded in 1968. It's even got a Feeling Groovy jam in it !

It would be great if/when the final FW69 show comes out on vinyl. I also wondered yesterday if 4/11/72 would ever come out on vinyl - a nice complement to the two Wembley shows that preceded it. After that - Bickershaw. And then look to Germany.

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I'm with you 100% on this one, lets get that vault list out, it will make for great conversations on here. For the people who don't want to know what's on the list, you don't have to look at it.

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Moon Times R Good Times, and Vault List heck yeah.

Just a quick update:

I just scored this, after several years of hunting:

9-disc Fleetwood Mac / Grateful Dead 1970 Opening The Warehouse Live CD Series

It finally was released. Cant wait. I was posting to alert, but as of now sold out again.

And for The ABB: This looks great!

Please spread the word and join us on Munck Music Radio everyday this month at 12 & 6 pm (cst) as we welcome spring with some of our hottest Allman Brothers Band shows.
Today's show: 3-23-2009
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Even after the epic Clapton shows and a Beacon run full of special guests and surprises, this show stands out from the crowd! This may be the most guest-packed show of all, with everyone from harmonica master Thom Doucette and saxophonist supreme Ron Holloway to Susan Tedeschi and the Kingpins of King Curtis fame joined the fun, and that was just the first set! As always, some of the best highlights belonged to a recharged Gregg Allman, who sang his heart out on "Desdemona," which also featured some tasty sax licks from Holloway.

Thom "Ace" Doucette played harmonica on the classic Live At Fillmore East album, so it's only fitting that he joined the band for "Done Somebody Wrong" and "You Don't Love Me." This Ace still has a few tricks up his sleeve! It was also a great tribute to Duane to feature the members of the Kingpins (Jerry Jemmott - bass, Bernard Purdie - drums and Jimmy Smith - keys), on the King Curtis classic "Soul Serenade," which took the whole Beacon to church. "Memphis Soul Stew" added Mike Mattison to the mix and took it even higher. Have mercy!

As if determined to outdo the remarkable first set, the second set opened with a "Little Martha>Blue Sky>Little Martha" sandwich jam that showcased some of the prettiest guitar playing of the entire run. John Bell of Widespread Panic added soulful vocals to the Blind Faith classic "Can't Find My Way Home" and a downright nasty "Walk On Gilded Splinters," and WSP guitarist Jimmy Herring was on fire all through the second set. Check out this extended jamathon of a "Les Brers In A Minor," which shows Derek and Jimmy playing together with the special telepathy only they have. Did we mention the extended "Statesboro Blues" encore, Ludlow Garage style?

What are you waiting for? Get this one today!

1. Don't Want You No More (2:49)
2. It's Not My Cross To Bear (5:25)
3. Done Somebody Wrong (6:53) @
4. Can't Lose What You Never Had (6:11)
5. Announcements (0:22)
6. Desdemona (15:10) &
7. New Instrumental (10:46)

1. Announcements (2:25)
2. Soul Serenade (9:42) *#^
3. Memphis Soul Stew (5:33) *#
4. Them Changes (9:20) *#
5. You Don’t Love Me (6:27) @
6. Little Martha (8:08)
7. I Walk On Gilded Splinters (6:54) $%
8. And It Stoned Me (5:22) $%
9. Can't Find My Way Home (6:31) $%

1. Leave My Blues At Home (2:33)
2. JaMaBuBu (8:49)
3. Leave My Blues At Home - reprise (4:51)
4. Les Brers In A Minor (16:31) %
5. Crowd Noise (4:23)
6. Statesboro Blues (12:45)

@ = w/ Thom Doucette, harmonica
& = w/ Ron Holloway, saxophone
*= w/ Jimmy Smith, organ; Bernard Purdie, drums; Jerry Jemmott, bass
# = w/ Susan Tedeschi, vocals
^ = w/ Mike Mattison, vocals
$ = w/ John Bell, vocals
% = w/ Jimmy Herring, guitar
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I Post because last month when all the postings on Weather Report (love), and drummers, I dont think anyone mentioned Bernard Purdie. An incredible drummer, inventor of the Purdie Shuffle, and the master of ghost notes. The easiest way to recognize him is think in your head "Babylon Sisters" by Stealy Dan. He played his shuffle on that track. Always have way more than I can post, hope I can do better. Has the new Dave's rumors come forth yet?

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Edit: the 1970 Warehouse show is brand new. It is listed every so often on ebay, but you have to hunt a little bit. Guessing they are batch processing small runs of it new.

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