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    Madison Square Garden 3/9/81
    Madison Square Garden 3/10/81
    Madison Square Garden 9/20/82
    Madison Square Garden 9/21/82
    Madison Square Garden 10/11/83
    Madison Square Garden 10/12/83
    Newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes
    Mastered by Jeffrey Norman
    Liners by award-winning music journalist David Fricke
    Artwork by Dave Van Patten
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition Of 12,500

    “Welcome to the unique, enduring phenomenon of the Grateful Dead in New York City, a mutual devotion, forged in concert, that ran for nearly as long as the band itself—from June 1, 1967, a free show in Tompkins Square Park on the Lower East Side (ahead of the band’s official, local bow at the Cafe Au Go Go), to the Dead’s last Garden run, six nights in October 1994…the Dead’s affinity for New York City…was instant and arguably their most profound with any city aside from San Francisco.” - David Fricke

    They got on the bus to the Port Authority, rode in on the Long Island Railroad and the New Jersey Transit line. They traveled North, South, and West on the 1, 2, and 3 subway lines, their numbers growing as they descended upon Penn Station. Some rolled up in those iconic New York yellows. Some walked excitedly through the bright lights of Broadway and Times Square, meeting up with old friends on the way and picking up a few new ones too as they ascended The Garden's stairs. Maybe you were among them - lightly buzzed on the way in, fully aglow on the way home. New York City was in its prime and damn if the Grateful Dead wasn't going to rise up to meet it! If you were there, we call on you to join us as we recapture that MSG magic and if you weren't, we invite you along on the epic journey that is IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN: MADISON SQUARE GARDEN '81 '82 '83.

    Numbered and limited-edition to 12,500, this 17CD set celebrates the band’s rich history at “the world’s most famous arena,” introducing six previously unreleased shows recorded at MSG between 1981 and 1983. It offers a front-row seat to the Dead in the early 1980s, an overlooked and underestimated era of rebirth for the band. At the time of the recordings, the group featured Brent Mydland. Mydland’s vocal power and colorful keyboard palette energized the band, invigorating older material like “The Wheel,” “Truckin’” and “Eyes of The World.” He also gave the band more musical flexibility, which encouraged them to dust off rarely aired treasures like “Dupree’s Diamond Blues” and “Crazy Fingers.”

    IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN touches on the three-year period after 1980’s GO TO HEAVEN was released, a time when the Dead were constantly on the road, playing more than 200 dates. While they were in no rush to return to the studio during this time, they continued to write new music. In 1982 and ’83, the band performed most of the songs that would appear on 1987’s IN THE DARK. The new collection includes performances of four songs from that album – “Touch Of Grey,” “Hell In A Bucket,” “Throwing Stones,” and “West L.A. Fadeaway” – plus the B-side, “My Brother Esau.”

    Due September 23rd, IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN comes in a custom box featuring new artwork by Dave Van Patten celebrating the band’s eclectic fanbase, with a cavalcade of illustrated Dead Heads. The collection also includes detailed liner notes by award-winning music journalist David Fricke, who explores the band’s connection to the Big Apple. It features newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes, mastered by Jeffrey Norman.

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    JimInMD
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    If E72 didn't win, I have no faith whatsoever in their little grammy efforts. Screw the friggin gram-ys the 1972 Steamer Truck deserves the Ounce-y award.

    These people need some help.... sometimes I lose faith in humanity.

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    I see the box set has got a Grammy nomination for something like best limited edition boxset.

    Molly Tuttle got two nominations Best Bluegrass album for ‘Crooked Tree’ and Best Newcomer. I wonder how they decide who is a newcomer? She’s around 29 and recorded her first cd with her dad when she was about 13. IMO ‘Crooked Tree’ is a fantastic album.

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    Have not watched this on the ytube yet.
    Any good? Anyone who attended?
    Some NYEve shows can be overhyped a bit.
    But after Radio City, Warfield, that 1 acoustic, 2 & 3 electric looks good.
    Cheers

  • #44
    JimInMD
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    Dude...

    Hope that night job starts to pay.

  • #45
    Oroborous
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    Day job

    Mine seems to be currently tilting at windmills aka fighting greedy ins companies!
    I’d rather be at work, yeesshhkkk

  • #46
    1stshow70878
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    My Day Job...

    ... right now is 30 Days of Dead.
    At least 63 choices for today's Bucket>Sugaree.
    And I think I looked at half of them on the archive!
    Yesterday I picked the right one first thing then changed it. Doh!
    I've always kinda liked Day Job. It does have that fun pace.
    Cheers

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    Yes, yes, yes

    More Normanized Dead is always good!
    And when Plangentized too, even better.

    Keep your day job,
    Until the Powerball pays……

    Unfortunately I wasn’t able to get a ticket that day, the lottery machine at the beer store I stopped at had run out of paper for printing the tickets because they had been printing so many.

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    At first I loved it: fun lyrics, and that bouncy beat, like you say Jim, has that Doe Knees vibe.
    Used to play it in my first band.
    Then after awhile it got a little old, perhaps over played, then it went away and was sorta forgotten.
    But with its resurgence via this box, I’ve grown found of it again!

    Good bless the child who has his own stash, 9 to 5 and a place to crash lol.
    I think part of what makes it so fun is that it’s so UN Jerry like.
    Yep, back when we were trying to be musicians it was always in the back of your head, like a cautionary tale.
    Have enjoyed the box the little I’ve been able to spend with it, especially been digging the early/alternative versions and these ole era specific chestnuts! I wouldn’t say these shows are best of year, for any of the 3 years, but it’s a nice sample and fun idea and what the hey more normanized Dead is always good!

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    Although I loathed the song at the time, I have grown to forgive Mr. Garcia and Mr. Hunter for Day Job. I have a whole new understanding of the song, it's meaning and the lyrics.. plus it's a bouncy fun groove song, not to dissimilar to tunes like Don't ease Me In. In hindsight I think it's more about shouldering the burden of the responsibilities we have accumulated while we figure out a way to proceed in some sort of graceful fashion. I no longer think it has anything to do with settling for that office job you never wanted.

    Sort of like a hybrid of the song The Weight and Sugar Magnolia or something.

    Still enjoying this box. I have a newfound respect for the 82 and 83 shows but 81 is still my happy place here. I think I'm moving on from it for a while.

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    West LA alternate lyrics

    Interestingly there are various versions, probably fostered by not being able to get em all in lol.

    In Hunters lyric book Box of Rain the extra verse is:

    Here’s what Ginger says,
    she walks right, she ain’t nobodies fool
    Hers what Ginger says,
    She always tries to play by the golden rule,
    She says if you treat other people right,
    other folks probably treat you right too

    In the 50th addition of David Dodds The Complete Annotated GD Lyrics in the notes for the song, the verse is:

    Here’s what Ginger says, she talks like she ain’t nobodies fool
    Here’s what Ginger says, she try’s to live by the golden rule
    She says you treat people all right
    other people will probably treat you cool

    And I think I’ve heard JG try others too, which as I say, none seem like they’d be easy to sing!
    Per usual, in the end the final version without that verse was probably best?
    Always really liked West L.A.

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WHAT'S INSIDE:
Madison Square Garden 3/9/81
Madison Square Garden 3/10/81
Madison Square Garden 9/20/82
Madison Square Garden 9/21/82
Madison Square Garden 10/11/83
Madison Square Garden 10/12/83
Newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes
Mastered by Jeffrey Norman
Liners by award-winning music journalist David Fricke
Artwork by Dave Van Patten
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition Of 12,500

“Welcome to the unique, enduring phenomenon of the Grateful Dead in New York City, a mutual devotion, forged in concert, that ran for nearly as long as the band itself—from June 1, 1967, a free show in Tompkins Square Park on the Lower East Side (ahead of the band’s official, local bow at the Cafe Au Go Go), to the Dead’s last Garden run, six nights in October 1994…the Dead’s affinity for New York City…was instant and arguably their most profound with any city aside from San Francisco.” - David Fricke

They got on the bus to the Port Authority, rode in on the Long Island Railroad and the New Jersey Transit line. They traveled North, South, and West on the 1, 2, and 3 subway lines, their numbers growing as they descended upon Penn Station. Some rolled up in those iconic New York yellows. Some walked excitedly through the bright lights of Broadway and Times Square, meeting up with old friends on the way and picking up a few new ones too as they ascended The Garden's stairs. Maybe you were among them - lightly buzzed on the way in, fully aglow on the way home. New York City was in its prime and damn if the Grateful Dead wasn't going to rise up to meet it! If you were there, we call on you to join us as we recapture that MSG magic and if you weren't, we invite you along on the epic journey that is IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN: MADISON SQUARE GARDEN '81 '82 '83.

Numbered and limited-edition to 12,500, this 17CD set celebrates the band’s rich history at “the world’s most famous arena,” introducing six previously unreleased shows recorded at MSG between 1981 and 1983. It offers a front-row seat to the Dead in the early 1980s, an overlooked and underestimated era of rebirth for the band. At the time of the recordings, the group featured Brent Mydland. Mydland’s vocal power and colorful keyboard palette energized the band, invigorating older material like “The Wheel,” “Truckin’” and “Eyes of The World.” He also gave the band more musical flexibility, which encouraged them to dust off rarely aired treasures like “Dupree’s Diamond Blues” and “Crazy Fingers.”

IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN touches on the three-year period after 1980’s GO TO HEAVEN was released, a time when the Dead were constantly on the road, playing more than 200 dates. While they were in no rush to return to the studio during this time, they continued to write new music. In 1982 and ’83, the band performed most of the songs that would appear on 1987’s IN THE DARK. The new collection includes performances of four songs from that album – “Touch Of Grey,” “Hell In A Bucket,” “Throwing Stones,” and “West L.A. Fadeaway” – plus the B-side, “My Brother Esau.”

Due September 23rd, IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN comes in a custom box featuring new artwork by Dave Van Patten celebrating the band’s eclectic fanbase, with a cavalcade of illustrated Dead Heads. The collection also includes detailed liner notes by award-winning music journalist David Fricke, who explores the band’s connection to the Big Apple. It features newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes, mastered by Jeffrey Norman.

Hey August I've been spinning 9/20/82. The very beginning of Shakedown sounds like they're all tuning up and getting the mix, but then it settles in very nicely and the Shakedown has all players well balanced. Hot Shakedown>Mingle one-two. I just listened to the Scarlet>Fire last night and it is excellent also. I'm liking this box more and more.

Anyone still on the fence on this I would jump on this. If you like early 80's Dead, this will not disappoint. I love it. Such great variety and the sound quality to my ears is 5 dancing bears! Just fantastic. Revisited 3/9/81 and this show smokes. The first set Deep Elem Blues, Birdsong! So good. Second set China Rider and the Estimatesd UJB is what this band is all about. So glad they put this one out.
Only complaint, they didn't include the 79 MSG shows.

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Submitted by Dennis on Wed, 09/06/2023 - 08:12

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Just ordered the vinyl copy of 3/9/81 from Experience Vinyl (125 bucks).

I'm guessing the Dead never released this on vinyl,,,, I don't have a copy in stock.!?

I lost a chunk of emails,,,, this order (in cd's) would have been in that chunk. I would have thought if it was available on vinyl I would have bought when I ordered the cd's.

But I can find NOTHING to show this has ever been released on vinyl.

Am I nuts or did I just spend more of my wife's hard earned money!

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Submitted by jonathan918@GD on Wed, 09/20/2023 - 07:05

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Spinning 9/20/82 today and it's really hitting the spot! So much magic in this MSG box. It's been in reagular rotation since the day I recieved it. I really like how they switch things up with the multi night, muti year run from a particular venue.

Also, if you've been hesitant about getting this because of reading post about sound quality, era, or performance quality, don't listen!!! If you like early 80's Dead, wait no more!

I get not liking an era but it seems a lot of posters (not all) come out in immediate protest of anything post 78.

Anyway, if you like this era, I promise this box won't disappoint! and no, I don't know DL or work for Rhino.

Rock on, gang!

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Submitted by FiveBranch on Sat, 09/23/2023 - 16:03

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In the past few weeks I've given the '82 and '83 shows a relisten and with each I had the same thought, "Oh geez, I forgot how much fun this one is! I've got to get on dead net and spread the word......"

But I'm a bit biased with towards post 70s GD. The ritualistic approach they kept with from '79 onward simply works and one I'll never tire of. Although, does fall into the whole, 'for those that understand no explanation is needed; for those that don't, none is possible'. Seems the majority of the people that really dig 80s and 90s Grateful Dead are those that saw them in that period. Makes sense.

Of the four shows, I'd say 10/12/83 stood out the most for me this time around. Because of the Help>Slip>Franklins. Has to be one of the better post '77 versions out there. Certainly one of the longest Slipknots from the 80s and 90s. Which is the part that counts most ; -)

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