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    What a setlist!... Made me jealous of those who saw this era live. Great sound… like ‘77 was yesterday. @derekb192 on 10/1/77, YouTube

    Wow! Just as when you think eyes is gonna go to drums out of the bliss comes dancing! One of my all time fave moments! Not just classic 77 but classic ever dead! - @emrysdavies1215 on 10/1/77, YouTube

    ...this show was off the hook from the very get go. The Casey Jones is the best I've heard... beginning a jam that goes through each member going off on an instrumental solo. The end has them jamming so hard you can no longer hear them singing through it. Now you know you're in trouble (The Good Kind) when a show starts like that... Weirtheir on 10/2/77, Dead.net

    Holy hell, the 10/2/77 Betty Board sounds incredible... I just wanted to pay homage to this unreleased gem, which features the lovely, tight playing you'd expect of a 77 show with some of the highest audio quality I've ever heard ... What a treat. u/monsteroftheweek13 on 10/2/77, Reddit

    I told my mother I was going into Portland with friends. I never told her where I went... @jamesmoore3694 on 10/1/77, YouTube

    We know where you've been and we're taking you back with the twice as nice DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 45: PARAMOUNT THEATRE, PORTLAND, OR - 10/1/77 & 10/2/77. Back-to-back complete previously unreleased shows on 4CDs? You betcha! Why? Because we couldn't pick one over the other of these two nights that have been described as "fire," "mind-frying," and "crispy" (bit of a theme here) too many times to count. Witness it for yourself when you dig into the inventive medleys and pristine sound, not to mention the first "Dupree's Diamond Blues" since '69 and the first live "Casey Jones" since '74.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson (with a boost from Bob Menke, more about that in David's video) and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

    *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • bluecrow
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    Land of the Navajo

    In the late 90s Pete Rowan was the featured musician on a multi-day float trip with the local river company on the mighty San Juan River. Folks brought their instruments and there was jamming around the campfire every night. After the trip he graciously played a free show in the tiny Nadabar for us folks in town. At one point he started talking about Muley Point, which has one of the most iconic and spectacular views in the southwest, looking south from atop the edge of Cedar Mesa across the Goosenecks of the San Juan to the Navajo Nation including Douglas Mesa, Monument Valley, and beyond. And he finishes with something to the effect that "I wrote this song while I was camped up on Muley Point years ago." And then he played Land of the Navajo.

    Midnight Moonlight holds a special place for me in those Old and in the Way songs. Listening to some of that Boarding House music right now. Nice unexpected music detour for a gray afternoon.

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    Anyone have any books by Ray Robertson? Which ones should I read, please?

    Opera is fine by me, but it has to be live. My wife humors me by coming along, but I'm the one who listens to classical music all day (with breaks for GD, Dylan, and Jazz).

    Sluggish sales? Let's be honest--we have TONS of GD already, so it does become difficult to get too wound up over new releases, unless the release is from a lightly-mined era, or is from recently-recovered tapes of a true classic show. Some of these recent boxed sets might have been better off with just a couple of the gem shows being Dave's Picks instead?

    And yes, if I watch sports (which is mostly soccer), I mute the announcers. It's always fun when the music I'm playing suddenly synchronizes with the on-field action!

    Be kind, rewind.

    p.s. DMCVT, I LOVE that! :) Just took the entire family to Carmen last spring. I've seen it two or three times now . . .

  • dmcvt
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    Confession time... as an all music lover, have enjoyed opera and as a kiddo, sung in the street urchin chorus for Bizet's Carmen performed at the Carter Barron Amphitheater in DC. Loved the Who's Tommy when it came out fifty years ago, of course. OK now I feel much better, back to my regular programming.

  • billy the kiddd
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    "Busted Down On Bourbon Street". 1/30/70

    53 years ago today, the Grateful Dead were busted down in New Orleans, down on Bourbon Street. They wouldn't play in New Orleans until 1980, when they played a couple of acoustic/electric shows, that would make a nice release.

  • DeadVikes
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    Change in IRS Reporting Requirements

    Yes, interesting to hear all the theories.
    However, there wasn't a change in eBay reporting. The change was at the Federal level and was included in The American Rescue Plan.
    All payment platforms, which include eBay, PayPal, Venmo, etc. are required to report to the IRS and the account holder all payments over $600 for the year. The old threshold was $20,000. This is a huge change. It means if you sell your daughter's bike on Craigslist and you get paid through PayPal and it is over $600, it will be reported to the IRS. It would also include your buddies paying you for dinners or drinks through Venmo if it exceeds that $600 for the enter year. This has caused a huge disruption with these platforms, including Ebay. It was such a big issue, the IRS decided not to enforce it for 2022, but warned everyone would have to comply in 2023.

    Okay, I am sure this is really boring, but sure it impacts all types of sales, including Ebay.

    We will have to wait and when #45 eventually sells out. I see the LTTR and the MSG box sets are both still for sale.

    Hope you all receive your #45 soon.

  • jjc
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    just ripped in set 1 10-1…

    just ripped in set 1 10-1 promised land and TLEO are from Audience tapes they say the deads masters for those 2 songs were unsalvageable.

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    Not Sold Out Yet

    Interesting to read the different views on the failure to sell out, I do hope it is down to fatigue, either of the 70's generally, or 77 specifically. That said, I do fear PT Barnum maybe nearer the mark and always wondered if the increase to 25k was, perhaps, a step too far.

    What is clear is that whole model is based on each volume selling out. Not necessarily immediately, but reasonably promptly. As soon as volumes stop selling out we descend into the vicious spiral of cherry picking increasing while subscriptions fall. Cherry picking is fine in theory, why shouldn't people only buy the volumes they want? Because it means fewer units sold and consequently the model becoming unsustainable without reducing the numbers.

    I'm not familiar with the new ebay restrictions mentioned, but I've always found it a little ironic that the resellers have always taken quite a bit of stick here, when the reality is that reselling has been absolutely critical to the success of Dave's Picks, building demand and driving numbers up and making it what it is to day. It's worth remembering that each Dave's Picks now sells about four times what the Road Trips releases used to sell and about half of those were full shows.

    On a more optimistic not, didn't volume 41 take a while to sell out?

  • 1stshow70878
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    Assessing sales and what it means is always tricky.
    Hobo Song and Land of the Navaho always get me.
    So The Who pulled it off with Tommy, why not? I could see some story pulled from the ballads and expanded into an opera. So many, Jack Straw comes to mind in a dust bowl hobo storyline. Or Terrapin with the Lady & The Fan story.
    The GD Movie's first few minutes of animation work for me as almost a visual opera but I'm a cartoon child and all the classical music I know is from the Loony Tunes cartoons. And all my knowledge of ancient history comes from Fractured Fairy Tales with the voice of Edward Everett Horton.
    Cheers
    That New Orleans Jazz & Heritage Festival line-up is humongus (or is that humungus?)!

  • daverock
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    On the other hand

    It may be better that they take a while to sell out, so non subscribers ( mentioning no names) can pick up a copy. It would be more worrying if they sold out on day one, before everybody that wants a copy can get one. That would light up the board, if that happened ! But all the Dave's Picks have sold out reasonably quickly, which is the main thing. So maybe they have got it right after all.
    It wouldn't do any harm to move out of the 70's, though. My preference would be to go back to the 1960's, but there are surely others would be just as keen for the series to move on into the 80's and 90's. I personally might not buy them, but I am sure there are many that would.

    The Dead might not have played opera, but they look as if they going out to hear one on the cover of "Go To Heaven."

  • JimInMD
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    Opera &GD, etc.

    If only the GD would have done an opera! (kidding). I have seen a few and get them although they are not usually my thing. I had a colleague who's side hustle was support and production of Operas, he took us to see one of Mozart's Magic Flute once, a project he helped see through. It was fun enough.

    My favorite opera moment has to be Tim Robbins playing \Mozart, the Marriage of Figaro over the PA in the Shawshank Redemption. A pretty powerful moment in that film and a testament that Music can heal. For me, a great song to pull me through tough times is The Hobo Song. An up-tempo bluegrass song, the words, however, speak of deep despair.

    I guess I am in the minority, I don't blame EBay taxes for Dave's 45 still being available. For some reason, the Fall '77 shows seem to be less desirable than Spring and Summer. I think the perceived drop in demand has more to do with an impending recession and resulting less disposable income for many, but the real reason is the 25,000 subscription number. Remember.. the first year the subscription was capped at 12,000 copies. Even us diehards openly discuss not needing every single release. As much as I love 1977 GD, I have listened to it a ton.

    It is going to be hard for Rhino and the GD to keep the hype going at 25k copies. Treading carefully as they must, the greatest hype period was probably in 2015 with Fare The Well, etc.

    One last comment, the first release each year always takes longer to sell out. Not sure exactly why.. perhaps it's because each year attracts a churn of new Deadheads that got on the bus late and buy a few ala carte CDs while the people that drop off the wheel and quit subscribing affect subscription numbers, which they can control somewhat and the impact is largely hidden to us.

    I don't think it's primarily an EBay phenomenon, but I could be wrong.

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What a setlist!... Made me jealous of those who saw this era live. Great sound… like ‘77 was yesterday. @derekb192 on 10/1/77, YouTube

Wow! Just as when you think eyes is gonna go to drums out of the bliss comes dancing! One of my all time fave moments! Not just classic 77 but classic ever dead! - @emrysdavies1215 on 10/1/77, YouTube

...this show was off the hook from the very get go. The Casey Jones is the best I've heard... beginning a jam that goes through each member going off on an instrumental solo. The end has them jamming so hard you can no longer hear them singing through it. Now you know you're in trouble (The Good Kind) when a show starts like that... Weirtheir on 10/2/77, Dead.net

Holy hell, the 10/2/77 Betty Board sounds incredible... I just wanted to pay homage to this unreleased gem, which features the lovely, tight playing you'd expect of a 77 show with some of the highest audio quality I've ever heard ... What a treat. u/monsteroftheweek13 on 10/2/77, Reddit

I told my mother I was going into Portland with friends. I never told her where I went... @jamesmoore3694 on 10/1/77, YouTube

We know where you've been and we're taking you back with the twice as nice DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 45: PARAMOUNT THEATRE, PORTLAND, OR - 10/1/77 & 10/2/77. Back-to-back complete previously unreleased shows on 4CDs? You betcha! Why? Because we couldn't pick one over the other of these two nights that have been described as "fire," "mind-frying," and "crispy" (bit of a theme here) too many times to count. Witness it for yourself when you dig into the inventive medleys and pristine sound, not to mention the first "Dupree's Diamond Blues" since '69 and the first live "Casey Jones" since '74.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson (with a boost from Bob Menke, more about that in David's video) and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Chill with lambasting the sound quality of Dave's 45. If you only listen to the first two tracks (Promised Land & They Love Each Other), as Dave himself explains on the Seaside Chat, you're listening to Bob Menke's audience recording. There's no soundboard of those two tracks and Bob kindly provided his tape. Some have said that the Smith/Miller/Clugston aud (140589) on the Archive is a little better than the Menke. In any case, once you get past those two, you're hearing "recently" recovered Betty Boards from the stash of soundboards returned by ABCD Enterprises. The changeover to soundboard actually happens before the end of They Love Each Other. Check out Dave's Seaside Chat for more.

The two shows on Dave's 45's 4 CDs are great sounding once they reach cruising altitude.

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I get where you're coming from. My main complaint on sound on many DiPs and DaPs is the drums are too loud. I used to blame Mickey for being involved in the remastering, lol. But to have two shows for the price of one totally outweighs the defects, and frankly that's what the tone controls are for on our stereos. And I also applaud Dave for being brave enough to get us the two shows with an aud. patch at the beginning. Patches are something they don't do very often and only when it's worth it. Especially, these two shows are so worth it. Don't give up on it.
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I remember getting this on cassette in the late 80s and loved both shows even if there was "some" missing. I have listened to this release several times and I love it. My question is: how is this still available? I've noticed the last few Dave's releases have been selling at a slower pace than just a few years ago. Just wondering, maybe the uptick to 25,000 units was a bit much? Anyway, have a safe happy holiday.

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